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Degeneracy Anonymous 06/24/2017 (Sat) 01:17:52 [Preview] No. 8591
Now even lobste.rs(openbsd-like version of hackernews) fall into the idiocracy of battlestations, the last place I would like to watch this shit:
https://lobste.rs/s/uyw4pq/lobsters_battlestations_screenshots

Where are we going dudes? Fucks sake.


Anonymous 06/24/2017 (Sat) 06:44:38 [Preview] No. 8593 del
>open first pic
>le retro mac and laptop on a clean table
Shitty taste but the battlestations are neutral. Unless you are in a cubicle you have a shitposting station. Empty cans and ciggarette butts. plumes of ash when lifting the keyboard. The theme of an alter a place of work. You can get carried away with it but you have to aknowledge your body seated in front of an electronic screen. Might as well look cool.


Anonymous 06/24/2017 (Sat) 09:02:35 [Preview] No. 8594 del
>larping about being leet and posting pictures of their work space
>many running windows/mac
yep, makes sense

I will freely admit I like looking at pictures of peoples' colour schemes. A work area with a nice colour scheme really improves mood and productivity in my opinion.


Anonymous 06/24/2017 (Sat) 10:38:03 [Preview] No. 8596 del
>lobste.rs
((( openbsd version of hacker news )))
>shit rss feeds
>full of macfaggots and wincucks
>jew news refugees

What the fuck are you talking about


Anonymous 06/25/2017 (Sun) 16:13:51 [Preview] No. 8611 del
>>8596
lobste.rs was originally spreaded by openbsd developers. For example, beck@ , tedu@ , mark@ , all of then use lobste.rs.
It's not the "openbsd-like version of hacker news" in the sense of good code, correctiness, but it has some collaboration from openbsd guys.

>>8593
>battlestation are neutral
it's ridiculous. No one gives a shit about your consumerism. I don't want to know about what window manager you use and how "riced" it is. I don't want to see your brown switch keyboard with fucking backlight.
Battlestation and desktop threads are the maximum signal of a tech-community degeneracy. When you reach this point you stop and go back, or you die... or, you transform yourself in a hipster. Imageboards are the last place without the retarded and reductionist mentality of hipsters, let's keep this way.


Anonymous 06/25/2017 (Sun) 16:18:22 [Preview] No. 8612 del
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>>8611
>Imageboards are the last place without the retarded and reductionist mentality of hipsters, let's keep this way.
By the way, I know we're talking about lobste.rs, that's not an imageboard. I was referring to these threads we normally see on imageboards.
Lobste.rs was the last news aggregator without many hipsters, now it's full of it.


Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 20:32:34 [Preview] No. 11191 del
There's nowhere to go.


Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 21:38:36 [Preview] No. 11193 del
>>11191
Don't say that...
8ch.net/tech/ is one/two months /g/. It was bad, but at least there were good topics. Now there are windows faggots everywhere, battlestations, ricing thread etc...


Don't say there is nowhere to go :^(


Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 21:56:50 [Preview] No. 11194 del
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>>11193
>Don't say there is nowhere to go :^(
There is one place left to go.


Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 22:00:03 [Preview] No. 11195 del
>>11193
There is nowhere to go.
End/tech/ is too slow.
Lainchan only has faggots.
8ch/tech/ [no words to describe such thing].

Maybe the intelligence of users is inversaly-proportional to it's collaboration on a discussion forum.
If it's true, then intelligence equals internalization. Then, the perception we have about the world being too dumb is just an illusion.
Or, we all suffer from Dunning-Kruger effect.


Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 05:04:39 [Preview] No. 11199 del
>>11195
In case any of you faggots find something don't forget to post it here so the others don't kill themselves.


Anonymous 09/27/2017 (Wed) 20:54:21 [Preview] No. 11385 del
>>11199
>>11195
It ends now.


Anonymous 09/27/2017 (Wed) 22:31:04 [Preview] No. 11390 del
>>8591
>>11195
4chan/g/ is absolutely disgusting
8chan/tech/ is absolutely disgusting
Lainchan is filled with some knowledgable people, but is pretty fucking bad
Meguca is nothing more than an outpost for /pol/ (Owner and main board are both nazis)
Nextchan is close to dead and is an outpost for /pol/
Endchan is very fucking slow, and /pol/ still leaks into other boards

I suppose it is possible for a safe haven website to exist somewhere that allows us to converse greatly, but good luck finding it and distributing its existence to those around you without it leaking out. Idiots always looking for a new medium better than their current one when they are oblivious to their own shitty behavior.


Anonymous 09/27/2017 (Wed) 23:13:12 [Preview] No. 11394 del
>>8591 (me)
>>11195 (me)
>>11390
>Idiots always looking for a new medium better than their current one when they are oblivious to their own shitty behavior.
Exactly. It seems some people from 8ch or some /pol/ just arrived here. They have a pretty obvious behavior.
I guess that, besides what I've wrote in >>11195, it's a problem with the imageboard culture. Maybe it's time to recreate all this thing, although imageboards have some great features, such as anonymity and you don't need accounts to post.


Anonymous 09/28/2017 (Thu) 21:59:01 [Preview] No. 11411 del
>>11394
What models are left to try? There is only so many times we can reinvent the BBS (basically everything is a knock-off of pure BBS).


Anonymous 09/29/2017 (Fri) 02:20:14 [Preview] No. 11412 del
Gonna go against the grain, but purity spiraling is the thing that's killing communities. Instead of actually discussing topics related to the hobbies people spend time bitching about other communities and finding ways to distinguish themselves from others. It attracts people who want to be surrounded by a "superior" fringe community instead of people who create content. Ultimately it turns a community into a bitter circlejerks of hipsters ironically complaining about hipsters ruining "their" secret club.


Anonymous 09/29/2017 (Fri) 02:54:07 [Preview] No. 11413 del
>>11412
>Gonna go against the grain, but purity spiraling is the thing that's killing communities.
I'm not sure that's the _only_ thing that's killing communities, BUT

>Instead of actually discussing topics related to the hobbies people spend time bitching about other communities and finding ways to distinguish themselves from others. It attracts people who want to be surrounded by a "superior" fringe community instead of people who create content. Ultimately it turns a community into a bitter circlejerks of hipsters ironically complaining about hipsters ruining "their" secret club.
is spot-on, and it's a dynamic you can routinely observe right here on end/tech/. I've ceased posting interesting stuff about security and machine learning, because the inevitable response is immediate sperging out about how it's "shit that doesn't belong here cancer REEEEEEEEEEEEEE" because it's not about OpenBSD, seL4, or a couple of posters' handful of other autistic obsessions.

I'm all for an educated difference of opinion, but one of the REEEEEEEEEfags even admitted that he couldn't even understand the paper I posted (and, thus, couldn't understand its implications), but continued to REEEEEE anyway.

That's worse than a desire to have a seekrit club. Elites gonna elite, and I don't have as much of a problem with that, really. But what you have here (and on some other dying boards) is the seekrit club mentality BUT they're all fucking poseurs. A couple of end/tech/'s notorious posters have built themselves a little mound of shit, named it Mount Everest, and think they're on top of the world because they're wallowing in it. It's funny and sad more than anything, but it also makes it not worthwhile to engage much with this community.


Anonymous 09/29/2017 (Fri) 05:05:57 [Preview] No. 11415 del
>>11412
>>11413
Community needs to police itself more. Faggots are too loud, while heteros are too pussy/tired/whatever to stand up and build a chain link fence against the horde.
>I'm all for an educated difference of opinion, but one of the REEEEEEEEEfags even admitted that he couldn't even understand the paper I posted (and, thus, couldn't understand its implications), but continued to REEEEEE anyway.
The AV thread? I remember, I told that poster he was a faggot who should go back to larpchain or something. They must be reminded they aren't welcome to post until they understand and as long as the ones who understand stay strong all will be well. Would help if moderation would slam out temp bans for those who continue to spew shit, but baby steps as they say. Endchan needs to stop being autistic and take a stand too.

The children know the emotions of their parents. If the parents are weak and let them shit on the carpet, they will continue to shit on the carpet. If they are strong and shove their noses into the shit then they will go shit in the shitter and no the carpet. I think it's time to stop running away everytime there is trouble. As they say "be the change you want to see." Endchan is salvageable, but only if all the knowledgefags put effort despite the shit and perservere.


Anonymous 09/29/2017 (Fri) 05:13:19 [Preview] No. 11416 del
>>11412
>>11413
Please, name one other imageboard that has a higher quality per post ratio. You can't, because all the other is full of desktop threads and smartphone bullshit.
And you know why the others are full of desktop threads? Because they allowed normie shit, these fucking apes that read about the imageboard culture and run to post shit.
>because it's not about OpenBSD, seL4, [...]
No, because your post (>>11029) was shit, and other people here agreed with me. If you want to have a discussion on "malware detection" (MD), you should go to a community that accepts better people that use OS that needs MD (aka, 4chan).
>seekrit club mentality
No. I don't talk for everyone in here, but our mentality should be good discussions. No consumerism and generally focused on security/privacy, since it's our worst problem today while on internet.
>have built themselves a little mound of shit
We have built nothing. This imageboard is not mine. I just come here and post some news, hoping that other people will generate a good discussion. That's all.
And we can't have these good discussions without selecting the content.

Pro tip: don't use ad hominem while discussing seriously.


Anonymous 09/29/2017 (Fri) 05:28:39 [Preview] No. 11417 del
>>11411
I have some comments here about this:
>>>/operate/7030
>>>/operate/7076

I think we should simplify the remove everything that is not needed. For example, remove the field for name, email, subject. Remove accounts. Remove ID's. Remove metadata (no only the date of the posts, but also clean images and other files).
Remove file names and resolution. Remove flags and spoiler. Remove all javascript. Make it all without use of cookies (the cookie-less captchas). No http_referer needed (lynxchan already do it). Remove normal view and allow only catalog.
Remove all the fancy markdown, only allow meme arrows and some normal shit (bold, italic). Remove name filters.
Moderation should be decentralized and should and should not have access to ID's or IP's.
For the discussion side, we could use some readability techniques: force all the text in 70-80 characters per line.
If we should really change the way imageboards work, I would also suggest that OP should follow some steps: determine a specific proposition and create specific bullet points to argument against or in favor of this proposition.
We should also get out of all this HTTP, HTML/CSS. A text-based lightweight markdown decoder could substitute the browser (yes, like BBS), together with some ideas we had here >>11350

A bit radical, but I think it's a better approach than what we have now...


Anonymous 09/29/2017 (Fri) 05:50:49 [Preview] No. 11418 del
>>11416
>No, because your post (>>11029) was shit, and other people here agreed with me. If you want to have a discussion on "malware detection" (MD), you should go to a community that accepts better people that use OS that needs MD (aka, 4chan).
It goes both ways, information is not solely useful to only one group. Much of what I know about attacking I learned because defenders are all too happy to share their tricks.
>>11417
So do it. Requesting change has never been how change is made. I'll even make the logo (quarter kidding).


Anonymous 09/29/2017 (Fri) 06:14:05 [Preview] No. 11419 del
>>11416
>Please, name one other imageboard that has a higher quality per post ratio
Translation: Other IBs are also shit, so it's okay if I shit in this one, too.

Whatever quality is to be found here is in spite of you, not because of you.

>No, because your post (>>11029) was shit, and other people here agreed with me
Argumentum ad populum. Now you know two more Latin words in addition to "ad homimem".

Next, try learning English.

>If you want to have a discussion on "malware detection" (MD), you should go to a community that accepts better people that use OS that needs MD (aka, 4chan).
You don't get to decide what constitutes acceptable topics for the board.

In addition, you're still a fucking moron if you can't see how the techniques introduced in that paper are applicable outside of antivirus software on Windows.

Once again, you're REEEEEEing about something you're not smart enough to understand, and shitting up the board with your complaints about it.

"Stop liking what I don't like" is bad enough. But you're beyond that. Your shtick is "I don't understand it, so I don't like it, WAAAAAAAAAAAA!"

>No consumerism
It's funny you should say that, because you're nothing but a consumer yourself. You can't code, you can't offer insight on anything, you just consume news about your niche interests and the opinions of your betters and regurgitate them here in broken English.

On the surface, it's a little different than obsessing about gaming rigs and smartphones, but it's functionally the same.


Anonymous 09/29/2017 (Fri) 08:44:28 [Preview] No. 11420 del
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>>11418
>Requesting change has never been how change is made
I'm not requesting. Please, point me where exactly where I've said that.
Suggesting is different from Requesting.

>>11419
>Now you know two more Latin words in addition to "ad homimem".
Oh, dear, you want to teach me logic fallacy now?
What I did was not ad populum.

This is an ad populum:

A is an individual argumenting about a point. B is a group. B agrees with the point, therefore A is right.


This is what I did:

A affirm your post should be allowed in this community. B and C say "no" to it. Assuming a democracy, A's post should not be allowed.


I wasn't giving a conclusion about the argument ("your post is shit") based on other people agreeing with me. I was arguing about what should be allowed or not in this community.
Of course, this assumes we have a democracy here, I should have stated that. It may not be the case.

>Translation: Other IBs are also shit, so it's okay if I shit in this one, too.
No. That's your conclusion about a question I did and you couldn't answer.

>Next, try learning English.
I've already replied to you >>11363

>You don't get to decide what constitutes acceptable topics for the board.
Good point. Who decides then? The community itself constructs the community (bootstrap) or there's someone else that rules here (mod's?). I honestly don't know. Because if the people rulling here say that your kind of posts should be allowed (fake malwares and malware detection for windows-nsa), then I'll step back and go to other place. Else, you're probably minority here.

>are applicable outside of antivirus software on Windows.
No, you don't understood my point on the other thread. A system should not have 0day exploits, therefore should not have "malware detection". If you mean "intrusion detection", that's another thing. I even think intrusion detection is not necessary in a trully secure system, but that's another discussion.

>you're nothing but a consumer yourself.
You're relativising the meaning. Consumming is different from Consumerism. If we assume what you're saying, then existence is in itself consumption.
It's funny you use relativism, because computing (logics, actually) is based on enterely rejection of relativism.


Anyway, I see a big probablity of this two comments being samefagging, trying to get a "bandwagon effect": >>11415 && >>11419

So the points we should be discussing, in my opinion is:
1- Who rules this board? (odili or a mod should say it, not us)
2- What kind of posts should be allowed?
3- What direction this board should go:
A: quality posts
B: desktop threads
C: other


Please, stop bullshiting. We are not children here to be in an ad infinitum, we'll just loose time if you keep this.
Also, I'll not play your game this time (trying to get me angry or use ad hominems against you, so you can accuse me of hypocrisy). If you guys want me out, the mod's or administrator should say so.


Anonymous 09/29/2017 (Fri) 15:08:33 [Preview] No. 11421 del
>>11420
>I'm not requesting. Please, point me where exactly where I've said that.
>Suggesting is different from Requesting.
Then what's the point? Throwing it out there that you're sad because daddy beats you isn't gonna fix the problem. You either put in a request to ol Jimbob at the bar to teach him a lesson or lift and fuck him up yourself.


Anonymous 09/29/2017 (Fri) 22:06:21 [Preview] No. 11422 del
>>11421
>Then what's the point?
Discussion. I want people to critic, so we can get all the differents perspectives about the same problem.


Anonymous 09/29/2017 (Fri) 22:49:24 [Preview] No. 11423 del
>>11422
You're going all HN on me here. Discussion is a waste of time if it bares nothing practical.


Anonymous 10/01/2017 (Sun) 04:57:10 [Preview] No. 11431 del



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