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Anonymous 06/24/2018 (Sun) 20:08:57 [Preview] No. 12806

P2P web browsing via websites served and shared on individual nodes:
users can create their own websites and host them from their own computers/servers
users can upload and share other's websites on their own computers/servers
self serviced websites are manually named *but will generate a random entropy hash within the url, example:
node://7bv45ix0/8ch.net or node://c334o96y/endchan.xyz
*the random entropy hash prevents individuals from creating and overriding other established websites
endless domain creation: .com, .org, .info, .onion, .rebel, .on, .geek ... et al (infinite)
browser can access HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, Zeronet, Beaker, eMule/eDonkee and various obscure networks.
browser is enabled for users to share files with others, creating decentralized P2P file sharing
the browser would have its own built-in decentralized search engine similar to YaCy that can pull up any content found
high standard end-to-end encryption would be active by default for all P2P connections
browser has a lightweight bit-torrent client built-in
onion routing is not mandated but the option would be allowed within the browser
I2P routing would also be an option for users
Dust and IPFS could be utilized in the browser for further anonymity and resilient decentralization.
Browser would come with its own built-in email client:
user's emails encrypted and hosted on their computers/servers in a secured directory

The purpose of this would be to create an all-in-one decentralized media sharing monster, rendering the current centralized internet pointless. No more worries about net neutrality or the EU's proposed web filtering or censoring sites like Kick Ass Torrents. It could become impossible for governments, corporations, politicians or media to censor or control narratives or our future.

Anonymous 06/25/2018 (Mon) 04:18:32 [Preview] No.12807 del
The issue is not if it can be done, rather, if people want to get it done.

Anonymous 06/25/2018 (Mon) 17:02:42 [Preview] No.12808 del
Maybe for specific solution.
A torrent search engine being decentralized would be a great thing, and far harder to kill.
But to generalize it everywhere, I seriously don't think that's a good idea, because will you accept to pay electricity and general infrastructure to host the website of someone else? Moreover, since it's less effective than a data center, you'll have need more power to support the websites.

I think that for specific purposes, yeah. But I seriously don't buy in this decentralize dream. Maybe someone will make it work at some level, I don't know.

Anonymous 06/26/2018 (Tue) 15:39:17 [Preview] No.12809 del
Good point, I think there are some programmers out there aiming to do similar things but the problem is they are under-funded and rather scarce among the tech community (most of the tech community is now elitist drones within Silicon Valley that work for the big corps).

>I seriously don't think that's a good idea, because will you accept to pay electricity and general infrastructure to host the website of someone else?

It depends on how big those website are and how much content they provide. Something like endchan could likely be hosted by one individual with some server space I'd imagine (this one site likely takes up 20TB at max?) That said we could at least create our own image boards or blogs. This would help decentralize a lot of info and content. And the more users that join in and participate, the more potential this has as a whole for hosting all kinds of content.

Something like Soulseek alone has over a million users with billions of albums, movies, books, software etc. available to download. This only relies on users hosting content on from their own computers. Imagine if we got 10 million+ users on a completely decentralized browser which users can host P2P websites. It would revolutionize a whole kind of new internet that would become very hard to censor or control.

Anonymous 06/27/2018 (Wed) 16:18:55 [Preview] No.12810 del
More like 20 GB.


Anonymous 07/12/2018 (Thu) 22:23:33 [Preview] No.12835 del
You want an internet suite stuffed into one browser?
That's sorta something what Seamonkey and ChromeOS do and dozens of failed projects before them did.
Which is not really good. Having interoperability and data exchange between different gui applications is cool, but having your browser to do all the work is asking for a trouble with too much attack surface. I am also pretty sure, you can have all this shit like accessing zeronet, irc, tor and i2p, download torrents and email with set of web browser addons.
You should also understand that hosting stuff from home computer puts drawbacks on availability compared to a remote VPS in a professional datacenter, or a dedicated server in your basement with nig-rigged car battery UPS which not everyone is eager to invest in.
>the random entropy hash prevents
You just came up with some useless bullshit. Look at how onion, eepsite, gnunet and cjdns domains are resolved and generated. It should not only be a "random hash", but also act as a public encryption key or public key hash without reliability on someone's DNS servers.
The main problem of "le decentralized internet" is how easy it would be for external powerful actor to remove pieces of it, and remove them not only for one group of users, but for everyone. Let's say you live in small corrupt country and post on facebook. Your country's government wants to remove your posts from facebook, but until those break facebook's tos or facebook has big-money business in your country, they don't care. And what would your country do then, ddos facebook or block it? The latter is feasible, but blocks can be avoided, the data still exists on Facebook's servers and is available for those who put much effort in it.
Now say again, you live in Ancapistan Enterprizes Real Estate. A society of decentralized Internetz and such. You host your blog from home, a small single board server and a 1 gbit unlimited connection, pretty nice isn't it? One day you post something bad about McFacebook corporation on your blog. Automated web crawlers of YaCy search engine detect wrongthink and it triggers McFacebook CEO personally. What happens next? They simply DDOS your weak 1gigabit-wide channel to the point when your ISP, or datacenter where your VPS is hosted disconnects your server for consuming too much traffic and blackholes all requests coming for your address, your server is already inaccessible at this moment. It's done, McFacebook corporation completed it's mission and eliminated you quickly. What would you do next? You either go to your ISP or some decentralized CDN provider and ask them to implement a DDOS protection, i.e. you have to find someone who will host your shit for free on pure enthusiasm (ipfs and webtorrent) or for thousands of shekels (Cloudflare) or in exchange for datamining (Facebook). Now you get the same modern Internet and web, where you have to host your important information on a big datacenter with wide bandwidth, distribute content over wide network of CDNs and gateway proxies.

Anonymous 07/18/2018 (Wed) 15:43:21 [Preview] No.12841 del
Yeah, some girls wrote it years ago
Then google hired them and gave them soul crushing jobs so they would forget about ever having written the wooden stake that could kill the google vampire

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