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Secure Smartphone? Anonymous 09/21/2017 (Thu) 17:56:35 [Preview] No. 11240
What does /tech/ think about this:

https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/

It's not perfect, but it sure looks like it's taking steps in the right direction.


Anonymous 09/21/2017 (Thu) 19:14:29 [Preview] No. 11242 del
What the fuck? PureOS?

>debian based
>full gui
>free software

Not heard of any of this stuff before. The phone and computer solutions look good. Fingers crossed it's not another Talos.


Anonymous 09/21/2017 (Thu) 19:31:54 [Preview] No. 11243 del
Smartphone concept is fundamentally against privacy. If you want to use (or have to), go ahead. But don't expect much privacy from it.
Besides that, Purism has already many critics about their marketing stuff:
https://blogs.coreboot.org/blog/2015/02/23/the-truth-about-purism-why-librem-is-not-the-same-as-libre/comment-page-1/?ak_action=reject_mobile

I even think you could do a portable computer yourself using some little ARM board. No one should use phone anymore, it's 2017 people, we have E2E VOIP people.


Anonymous 09/22/2017 (Fri) 01:35:26 [Preview] No. 11246 del
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I can't find many details about the phone, but that may be because their site seems to require javascript.

I did notice this:

>The Librem 5 phone will be the world's first ever IP-native mobile handset, using end-to-end encrypted decentralized communication.

Does that mean it's VOIP only? No 3G or 4G LTE?

Vid rel is their promotional video.


Anonymous 09/22/2017 (Fri) 05:14:30 [Preview] No. 11251 del
Seems live vaporware since something good gets put up.
In the meantime keep and eye on postmarketos


Anonymous 09/22/2017 (Fri) 15:29:24 [Preview] No. 11257 del
I don't believe any "smart phone" is or can be secure, but neither are regular flip phones either. Any phone can be hacked / intercepted.

However, considering we all do need to use phones today to communicate with people we know, I have chosen to buy a "jitterbug" which has no online service, it is a basic late 90s-style flip phone meant for elderly people or people with bad eyesight. Thus the big bulky numbers and mundane simplistic interface. Cover up the camera with electric tape and it's just like an original old-school cell phone.

The great thing about Jitterbugs is they really are cheap, you can get great service for just $20 per month. Saving you A LOT of money.


Anonymous 09/22/2017 (Fri) 15:36:28 [Preview] No. 11259 del
>>11257
>we all do need to use phones today
I don't.


Anonymous 09/22/2017 (Fri) 16:20:35 [Preview] No. 11261 del
>>11259
You must be lucky then, many people do need phones (family, friends, work, emergency if need be, etc). Not that I'm saying we need them all the time but occasionally we do.

That's how I keep in touch, since I refuse to use personalized social media. And in that case, a simple "Jitterbug" or "burner" phone works well, and those are really cheap. No internet needed, no apps. Just a bare basic cell phone interface.

And if you don't use a phone, how do you communicate with people you know other than relying on social media? Is there some secret tech out there I don't know about? Ham radios perhaps?


Anonymous 09/22/2017 (Fri) 16:47:05 [Preview] No. 11262 del
>>11259 (me)
>>11261
I use email. It's not secure, but it's the only way people can contact me right now, without talking personally.
I don't use social media too (unless you consider imageboards social media). And my point in doing so is not just the privacy issues, but also because they control you with reinforcement mechanisms to keep you hooked to receive their stimulus (attention in case of normal people and advertising in case of corporations).
I want to be out of this, so I don't participate. If people want to contact me, send me an email. If they think it's too complicated to use email or think that I'm not as special for them to waste time with me, them they are not trully friendz and don't deserve my attention. It's a good filter.


Anonymous 09/22/2017 (Fri) 18:41:20 [Preview] No. 11264 del
Don't you guys really understand that with dumb flip-phone you have absolutely no privacy when doing calls and texting with other people. You should treat cellular network as another way of connecting to the Internet without wires. Yes, all hot-spots are controlled by one entity and can triangulate you, it's bad. Yes, the firmware is proprietary. But you can utilize the possibilities and connect to SIP bridge through VPN. Your carrier knows where you are and that you are using a VPN. Fine, lot's of people are using VPNs today, especially corporate employees. You don't make calls, most people use message apps today it's fine too, nothing suspicious. Your SIP provider sees you connecting through VPN, nothing interesting here.
You still can communicate privately with other people on IRC, via mail and messaging apps, lot's of free software choices here, you can call others with SIP and not be fingerprinted/profiled by your carrier. When you don't want to be connected and therefore tracked, you turn off the modem and done.


Anonymous 09/24/2017 (Sun) 18:18:27 [Preview] No. 11286 del
>>11240
Jolla's os was based on gnu/linux too, but i won't call that a living thing. Sony tries to play with it, but i doubt they take it seriously, but who knows. It's community driven and there is no free development kit for the maintainers.
Librem 5 should focus on os from the start and hoard oems to open the documentation for porting or they will fall shorter than canonical did. They can use plasma or unity too as a jump start.


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Anonymous 09/25/2017 (Mon) 21:22:21 [Preview] No. 11293 del
>Secure Smartphone?
Location Tracking using Mobile Device:
https://crypto.stanford.edu/powerspy/

No.


Anonymous 09/25/2017 (Mon) 21:43:10 [Preview] No. 11294 del
>>11293
It can come in handy sometimes.


Anonymous 09/26/2017 (Tue) 17:33:41 [Preview] No. 11329 del
>>11293
>shitty botnet OS allows proprietary apps read it's power consumption state without notifying user
>while NSA can snoop your puter's AES keys from powerline with smart meters
>has anything to do with GNU/Linux


Anonymous 09/26/2017 (Tue) 17:38:42 [Preview] No. 11330 del
>>11329
What the fuck are you talking about?



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