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Anonymous Board owner 05/09/2018 (Wed) 22:40:59 [Preview] No. 12705 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Welcome to /tech/, a technology board. This board is for general discussion of technology.

Rule 1: Only threads about technology or /tech/ itself are allowed.
Rule 2: NSFW content are only allowed if they are spoilered.
Rule 3: No referral links, asking for cryptocurrencies, advertising or similar.
Rule 4: No spam or posts without meaningful content.

All rules and policies are open for discussion in this thread.

IRC: #/tech/, #InfinityNow and #endchan on irc.rizon.net - https://qchat.rizon.net/
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Archived sticky threads:

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betamax Board owner 06/06/2018 (Wed) 20:25:08 [Preview] No.12769 del
For those that lack the context, here's some old threads:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170603035754/http://endchan.xyz/tech/res/597.html
>>10740
>>11785

Notice the gradual change of who's contributing and also notice how that Tor thing was criticized since day one. These days, that anon is only spamming his own list that he had somehow convinced the Endwall guy, AKA Board Owner of /os/ to host, and people here really don't feel compelled to contribute to that list anymore. More could be said as to who that anon is but that's unnecessary for the time being. As much as it was a /tech/ thing, now it's mostly just a website for a certain someone to promote his list as if it is /tech/ approved which it is not.


Anonymous 06/06/2018 (Wed) 22:17:09 [Preview] No.12771 del
>>12769
>promote his list
Do you really think this matters that much to me? Take a guess, I don't.
You guys can do whatever you want. Endchan stopped being funny manny time ago, that's why I and anyone contributes anymore. I tried to do something. Didn't work. Time wasted.
Now go play moderator as you wish.


betamax Board owner 06/06/2018 (Wed) 23:02:34 [Preview] No.12772 del
>>12771
Yet you keep on crawling back here time after time to waste your time in your persistently broken english. Nobody's really falling for your funny business. Go bitch and moan elsewhere but you know all too well that I can't stop you from destroying this place, you'll bypass it one way or another.


Anonymous Board owner 07/03/2018 (Tue) 18:01:19 [Preview] No.12821 del
It is done.



EndChan/InfinityNow Terminal Client Morphosis 06/03/2018 (Sun) 21:18:45 [Preview] No. 12749 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
How hard would it be to create a terminal client for endchan/InfinityNow? I know that the OverChan android app can view this site; does that work by scraping or is there an API?

It would be much more comfy to browse here from the terminal than through the browser. You could have proper keyboard navigation between posts, and you wouldn't need a mouse at all. The biggest issue that comes to mind would be solving the captcha for making posts.
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Anonymous 07/08/2018 (Sun) 09:39:38 [Preview] No.12825 del
https://github.com/bcskda/2ch-cli
Ncurses-based console client for sosach, you might try to fork it and change API.


Anonymous 08/03/2018 (Fri) 17:28:24 [Preview] No.12856 del
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>>12749
Thanks for the idea, OP


Anonymous 08/06/2018 (Mon) 20:03:18 [Preview] No.12857 del
>>12856
:O

Is this for real?


Anonymous 08/07/2018 (Tue) 17:01:02 [Preview] No.12858 del
>>12857
Yup. It's real.
So far I'm focused on making a read-only browser, but I hope that with w3mimgdisplay I'll be able to add posting mode and captchas inside the terminal.
But before any public release I plan to revise the UI, add proper text formatting & post image viewing and make the backend more flexible.


Anonymous 08/08/2018 (Wed) 19:29:00 [Preview] No.12859 del
>>12858
I'm hard as diamonds rt



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Google turns evil Anonymous 08/02/2018 (Thu) 04:05:01 [Preview] No. 12853 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Turncoats now will agree to censor their results. But remember how much of a ruckus they put up against China 10 years ago?


Anonymous 08/02/2018 (Thu) 21:35:20 [Preview] No.12854 del
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Anonymous 08/03/2018 (Fri) 03:08:38 [Preview] No.12855 del
>>12853
>Google turns evil
>turns
>08/02/2018
K.

Shit effort at making a thread, btw.



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Palemoon blacklists NoScript Anonymous 05/12/2018 (Sat) 03:01:36 [Preview] No. 12708 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
As the subject says. It's been entered into their custom "bitch at the user with a popup until they disable it" database. To be fair to the developer, he has solid reasons for his stance. I'll try to summarize as there is a lot of misinformation and emotion out there fogging the issue.

1) The Palemoon project does not have enough developer juice to debug other software and addons.
2) Various users: "[website] does not work with Palemoon. Fix your shit, Moonman!"
3) Moonman: "Known issue. Stop being morons and disable NoScript. Thank you, and have a nice day."
4) Various users: "We did. Same problem. Fix your shit."
5) Moonman: "Oh. That's an actual issue with Palemoon then. I'm on it!"
6) Much hacking and cracking and time and talent are expended to no effect. Surprise! NoScript does not follow the standard of letting go of the browser when disabled. It lingers on. It has to be completely uninstalled with an added cache clearing operation on top of that.
7) Moonman: "It's NoScript. Get rid of it. Have a nice day."
8) Various users: "No. FIX YOUR SHIT!"
9) Moonman: "Crush. Kill. DESTROY!"

If you roll with my simplification you can see his point.

I have two observations. First, quite a few sites have a technical support checklist that runs like this: "What browser are you using? Palemoon? Oh good! We have two fixes you may choose from. One, use another browser. Two, go away and do not come back."

My irony sense is tingling.

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Anonymous 07/05/2018 (Thu) 08:08:54 [Preview] No.12823 del
>>12708
2) 32 bit systems: Dunno. This is going to be a problem for me.

Not a problem for me. I use either text mode browsers. Dillo. or older versions which probably have a lot of security issues but I'm not worried about that seeing as the times I browse on those systems are old already. I don't feel like going through the mess and compiling my own version of firefox or whatever. But there is RetroZilla which is quite nice.


Anonymous 07/05/2018 (Thu) 16:23:46 [Preview] No.12824 del
OP again. I noticed the thread flying by on the overboard. May as well drop my final observations.

>>12823
I use Lynx with some regularity for ssh sessions, etc. In the year of our Lord 2018, a fully useful command line webbrowser still surprises the hell out of the Mircosoft wonks I come across. Nevertheless, a 32 bit system is no barrier to a desktop GUI, M$ or otherwise.

The end result was Waterfox for my 64 bit systems, and Icecat for my wee 32 bit on-the-road portable. The privacy tweaking learning curve was minimal and everything is running smoothly and to my satisfaction. Palemoon is a distant memory at this point. While this was an excellent thread all in all, I don't have anything else to add to the discussion and won't waste any more time on Palemoon related activities.

Thanks everyone!


Anonymous 07/24/2018 (Tue) 03:53:46 [Preview] No.12847 del
Palemoon is cucked a long time ago, I only use it as a secondary browser.

btw ungoogled-chromium superior


Anonymous 07/31/2018 (Tue) 14:46:46 [Preview] No.12851 del
>>12847

Been doing UGC for a test drive for some time now. The only irritations I've found so far:

1) No way to conveniently prevent automatic page refreshing.
2) Installing extensions is a bit of a hassle.
3) No non-M$ 32bit version

Only that last is really irksome. Why no 32bit version?


Anonymous 08/01/2018 (Wed) 13:33:07 [Preview] No.12852 del
>>12851
Hmmm.

It also enforces tear off tabs with no way to disable. Something else I hate.



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The div that looks different in every browser. Anonymous 07/11/2018 (Wed) 23:02:51 [Preview] No. 12826 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
<html><head><style>

html {
display: table;
height: 100%;
width: 100%;
}

body {
display: table-cell;
vertical-align: middle;
}

div {
margin: auto;
width: 100px;
height: 100px;
outline: inset 100px green;

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Anonymous 07/12/2018 (Thu) 10:22:13 [Preview] No.12832 del
>>12831
Same on palemoon.


Anonymous 07/12/2018 (Thu) 13:20:19 [Preview] No.12833 del
>>12832
version brothers holla


Anonymous 07/15/2018 (Sun) 19:50:09 [Preview] No.12838 del
> create web standards
> no one follows them
welp


Anonymous 07/20/2018 (Fri) 15:48:14 [Preview] No.12844 del
This is fucking cool. I'm going to set something like this up to generate my company logo on my site.


Anonymous 07/29/2018 (Sun) 14:00:08 [Preview] No.12850 del
>>12844
wait could copyright the CSS as like the input and then own the rights to the various shit it spits out?





Anonymous 07/12/2018 (Thu) 02:24:05 [Preview] No.12828 del
>>9100
idk how you fools struggle so hard, there is an industry defined path
>learn basic overall computer shit (A+)
>learn networking (network+)
>learn security (security+)

from there you can find your niche and specialize where'd you like. you don't even have to get the certs just have the knowledge (unless you want to get a job of course).


Anonymous 07/12/2018 (Thu) 22:01:32 [Preview] No.12834 del
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>>12741
I don't give a FUCK if they are getting into these political correctness stuff since I'm there to learn IT and security. And their tutorials are pretty good.


Anonymous 07/29/2018 (Sun) 12:18:14 [Preview] No.12849 del
any of you retards actually do stuff???
Have a home lab, go war driving, etc?
Or do you just copy paste links you'll never read


Anonymous 08/18/2018 (Sat) 15:40:59 [Preview] No.12860 del
>http http http
at least write https if a TLS version exists you lazy nigger



Russia's 'VPNFilter' malware Anonymous 05/23/2018 (Wed) 15:38:53 [Preview] No. 12742 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
So, they claim Russia attacked about 500,000 routers in Ukraine, with a software that gave root to them. Don't know if it's really from Russia or just democrats trying to push the "election-was-manipulated" agenda, but, that's the future: not as many bombs, but teams that crack the systems to get intel:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyber-routers-ukraine/cyber-firms-warn-on-suspected-russian-plan-to-attack-ukraine-idUSKCN1IO1U9?il=0


Anonymous 05/24/2018 (Thu) 17:23:56 [Preview] No.12743 del
James Clapper isn't a democrat you moron


Anonymous 05/25/2018 (Fri) 05:00:37 [Preview] No.12744 del
>>12743
There is no James Clapper mentioned in the article.


Anonymous 07/25/2018 (Wed) 10:07:12 [Preview] No.12848 del
You’ve got to give the article some air of credibility, especially considering that the Russian government is the main culprit of the Ukrainian civil war. Such an attack would be in their interests not to mention that the Russian government has performed similar attacks on vital eastern Ukrainian infrastructure



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Anonymous 06/28/2017 (Wed) 14:13:05 [Preview] No. 8768 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
/g/ is building an OS
http://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/61110805

It's a riced out, gentoo based desktop distro
https://cloveros.ga/

Has a nice low ram footprint

irc.rizon.net #cloveros
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Anonymous 05/16/2018 (Wed) 19:33:43 [Preview] No.12730 del
>>12729
what?

also you can easily do anything in gentoo thanks to ebuilds


Anonymous 05/16/2018 (Wed) 19:35:40 [Preview] No.12731 del
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Anonymous 05/18/2018 (Fri) 01:29:31 [Preview] No.12734 del
>>12731
Nice background.


Anonymous 07/18/2018 (Wed) 11:50:41 [Preview] No.12839 del
Pretty cool distro, however.
There are a few things that the maintainers neglect to tell in their repository.
Things like the overlays used in the binaries.
From what I've been able to piece together is that most bins and most of their package.use is built around the Libressl overlay and (maybe?) a few others.

There is also a huge problem right now with the way they setup nvidia drivers.
The driver that is downloaded and supplied is (again from my understanding) built for linux version 4.14.* whilest CloverOS currently runs 4.16.* which is a uge problem because installing these drivers will destroy your install.
additionally, the nvidia drivers supplied are 396.24-r1 which is the unstable versions that lack legacy support for some older(not that old) graphics cards.
The system doesn't store a local version of their Gentoo sources, so if you want to go full Gentoo you'll have to download the sources.
This made getting dkms nvidia drivers a bit annoying.

It would be great if the script was updated to serve a dkms version of nvidia drivers, various versions would help with legacy support.
That being said, i get the feeling the scripts weren't designed much with supporting a wide range of systems.
If you use some memeware thinkpad/toughbook this distro is perfect right out of the gate.
If you want to get some other kind of setup to work it'll require a bit of legwork, but that's not a bad thing.
It's amazing how simplified this makes a your regular Gentoo install.
Because it's Gentoo I've been able to get most of the above to work perfectly.


Anonymous 07/20/2018 (Fri) 15:54:14 [Preview] No.12845 del
>>12731
Not to be too forward, but I want to lick your desktop. Do you find this is a common reaction?



Anonymous 07/14/2018 (Sat) 17:20:20 [Preview] No. 12836 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Does anybody here use stack exchange? Just curious, there are a lot of tech-oriented sites as part of stack exchange and I was wondering if /tech/ recommends any of them.


Anonymous 07/15/2018 (Sun) 19:44:10 [Preview] No.12837 del
>>12836
>Does anybody here use stack exchange? Just curious, there are a lot of tech-oriented sites as part of stack exchange and I was wondering if /tech/ recommends any of them.

Only via search engine results. I attempted to contribute early on but lost interest, though there's a huge push to make their entire suite of sites a "safe space" for idiots to ask stupid questions without fear of being called stupid. I understand that being called an idiot isn't fun, though the goal of not being called an idiot is what pushed me to get good in the first place.


Anonymous 07/20/2018 (Fri) 15:08:43 [Preview] No.12842 del
>>12836
Yes I do.
Stack Exchange is the only site I know of in the category which allows anonymous contributions. Others (even Wikipedia) block Tor and/or require registration.


Anonymous 07/20/2018 (Fri) 15:34:02 [Preview] No.12843 del
>>12837

This is correct. If you find useful information take it, but don't get yourself involved. Their management publicly announced not long ago that they are to be considered typical sjw trash now, just another outlet for loony propaganda.



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Anonymous 06/24/2018 (Sun) 20:08:57 [Preview] No. 12806 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
CAN THIS BE DONE?

P2P web browsing via websites served and shared on individual nodes:
users can create their own websites and host them from their own computers/servers
users can upload and share other's websites on their own computers/servers
self serviced websites are manually named *but will generate a random entropy hash within the url, example:
node://7bv45ix0/8ch.net or node://c334o96y/endchan.xyz
*the random entropy hash prevents individuals from creating and overriding other established websites
endless domain creation: .com, .org, .info, .onion, .rebel, .on, .geek ... et al (infinite)
browser can access HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, Zeronet, Beaker, eMule/eDonkee and various obscure networks.
browser is enabled for users to share files with others, creating decentralized P2P file sharing
the browser would have its own built-in decentralized search engine similar to YaCy that can pull up any content found
high standard end-to-end encryption would be active by default for all P2P connections
browser has a lightweight bit-torrent client built-in
onion routing is not mandated but the option would be allowed within the browser
I2P routing would also be an option for users
Dust and IPFS could be utilized in the browser for further anonymity and resilient decentralization.

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Anonymous 06/25/2018 (Mon) 17:02:42 [Preview] No.12808 del
Maybe for specific solution.
A torrent search engine being decentralized would be a great thing, and far harder to kill.
But to generalize it everywhere, I seriously don't think that's a good idea, because will you accept to pay electricity and general infrastructure to host the website of someone else? Moreover, since it's less effective than a data center, you'll have need more power to support the websites.

I think that for specific purposes, yeah. But I seriously don't buy in this decentralize dream. Maybe someone will make it work at some level, I don't know.


Anonymous 06/26/2018 (Tue) 15:39:17 [Preview] No.12809 del
>>12807
Good point, I think there are some programmers out there aiming to do similar things but the problem is they are under-funded and rather scarce among the tech community (most of the tech community is now elitist drones within Silicon Valley that work for the big corps).

>>12808
>I seriously don't think that's a good idea, because will you accept to pay electricity and general infrastructure to host the website of someone else?

It depends on how big those website are and how much content they provide. Something like endchan could likely be hosted by one individual with some server space I'd imagine (this one site likely takes up 20TB at max?) That said we could at least create our own image boards or blogs. This would help decentralize a lot of info and content. And the more users that join in and participate, the more potential this has as a whole for hosting all kinds of content.

Something like Soulseek alone has over a million users with billions of albums, movies, books, software etc. available to download. This only relies on users hosting content on from their own computers. Imagine if we got 10 million+ users on a completely decentralized browser which users can host P2P websites. It would revolutionize a whole kind of new internet that would become very hard to censor or control.


Anonymous 06/27/2018 (Wed) 16:18:55 [Preview] No.12810 del
>>12809
More like 20 GB.

>>12806
RetroShare.


Anonymous 07/12/2018 (Thu) 22:23:33 [Preview] No.12835 del
You want an internet suite stuffed into one browser?
That's sorta something what Seamonkey and ChromeOS do and dozens of failed projects before them did.
Which is not really good. Having interoperability and data exchange between different gui applications is cool, but having your browser to do all the work is asking for a trouble with too much attack surface. I am also pretty sure, you can have all this shit like accessing zeronet, irc, tor and i2p, download torrents and email with set of web browser addons.
You should also understand that hosting stuff from home computer puts drawbacks on availability compared to a remote VPS in a professional datacenter, or a dedicated server in your basement with nig-rigged car battery UPS which not everyone is eager to invest in.
>the random entropy hash prevents
You just came up with some useless bullshit. Look at how onion, eepsite, gnunet and cjdns domains are resolved and generated. It should not only be a "random hash", but also act as a public encryption key or public key hash without reliability on someone's DNS servers.
The main problem of "le decentralized internet" is how easy it would be for external powerful actor to remove pieces of it, and remove them not only for one group of users, but for everyone. Let's say you live in small corrupt country and post on facebook. Your country's government wants to remove your posts from facebook, but until those break facebook's tos or facebook has big-money business in your country, they don't care. And what would your country do then, ddos facebook or block it? The latter is feasible, but blocks can be avoided, the data still exists on Facebook's servers and is available for those who put much effort in it.
Now say again, you live in Ancapistan Enterprizes Real Estate. A society of decentralized Internetz and such. You host your blog from home, a small single board server and a 1 gbit unlimited connection, pretty nice isn't it? One day you post something bad about McFacebook corporation on your blog. Automated web crawlers of YaCy search engine detect wrongthink and it triggers McFacebook CEO personally. What happens next? They simply DDOS your weak 1gigabit-wide channel to the point when your ISP, or datacenter where your VPS is hosted disconnects your server for consuming too much traffic and blackholes all requests coming for your address, your server is already inaccessible at this moment. It's done, McFacebook corporation completed it's mission and eliminated you quickly. What would you do next? You either go to your ISP or some decentralized CDN provider and ask them to implement a DDOS protection, i.e. you have to find someone who will host your shit for free on pure enthusiasm (ipfs and webtorrent) or for thousands of shekels (Cloudflare) or in exchange for datamining (Facebook). Now you get the same modern Internet and web, where you have to host your important information on a big datacenter with wide bandwidth, distribute content over wide network of CDNs and gateway proxies.


Anonymous 07/18/2018 (Wed) 15:43:21 [Preview] No.12841 del
>>12806
Yeah, some girls wrote it years ago
Then google hired them and gave them soul crushing jobs so they would forget about ever having written the wooden stake that could kill the google vampire
https://github.com/PeerServer/peer-server