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/go/ - Golden Oaks General Anon 01/07/2019 (Mon) 06:02:52 [Preview] No. 3148
Welcome to Golden Oaks! Sit back and get /confy/ and dive into the vast amounts of data across the web that has been generated by the MLP fandom.

What is Golden Oaks?
Golden Oaks isn't quite sure exactly how to define itself yet. It is devoted to a rather nebulous topic of the fandom itself with an archival mindset. It will vary from as diverse subjects as academic research done on the fandom to even the discussion of old dead pony memes and trends past and present. With perhaps some self reflection as well.

What is Golden Oaks not?
Golden Oaks is not for the simple dissuasion of the latest scandal within the fandom or gossip about X. These subjects maybe relevant at times in the discussion of certain happenings and periods within the fandom, but the thread itself shouldn't dive into drama without reason.

What is this place?
This is the endchan's pony board. While we are microscopic we have regular posting and a somewhat distinct culture as can be with 3 anons and the occasional drifter . /go/ welcomes outside contributions. Feel free to look around.
Current general >>2168


Anon 01/07/2019 (Mon) 06:38:01 [Preview] No.3150 del
Well. This is the thread that I alluded to. I'm not entirely sure how to describe my intent with this place but I sort of envision it as a secondary repository of various information on the fandom with some discussion on the side. Not sure it'll ever be a comprehensive archive of everything pony that every existed but I imagined it as a place that would have certain files shared in case they were deleted elsewhere. Within reason, think PDFs of scholarly research and studies and maybe a backup copy of somewhat notable works that may become lost later. Along with basic records, like old fandom websites and what the were like with maybe some archive links if possible.


I was first inspired with some discussions earlier on here over what we thought th fandom was like in early days and the idea fully formed recently as I've been skimming through a mix of different fandom sites and various research papers. This will be something I just do on the side of course. So right now it'll just be stuff I find in casual browsing. Frankly the thread feels like it could have a bit of a wonky vibe and I could see it going several directions. If this is successful in becoming something I could see it being linked elsewhere, and if I find the time I may even try to track down people who where involved in dead fandom projects and what not, but that's longer term. So that's why I have the little introduction to /endpone/ at the end there and such.


Anon 01/07/2019 (Mon) 07:09:40 [Preview] No.3151 del
Alright. Here is my first observation. These two pics related.

This furry research site brony related questioning if I remember correctly dates back mostly ore 2014. They note a stigma of bronies being seen invading their fandom with their research suggesting that most bronies within the furry fandom were longtime members.
http://www.furryresearch.org/bronies/

However this brony research report dated to 2016 suggests the complete opposite.
https://sites.google.com/site/bronyresearchproject/past-results/september-2016-study

There several fairly easy guesses as to why this is. First off. A lot of furries I'd imagine hopping off with the rest of the more tumblr types cira 2013 or 2014 and do to the exposure some memebers of the fandom to anthro and such it creating new furries later on. A study labled a "brony" study is obliviously going to draw more people who are in this fandom's orbit, etc. What's slightly interesting to me is that the fandom related study notes some of them having been involved in the study of furries of before and you'd think they'd be aware of that other research if not having some people who where on it.You would think they'd note it. I mean their can't be that many furry studies right? right? I know. Not the biggest detail in the world. Maybe not even a detail at all but it is just a tiny little thing I noticed when going through these.


Anon 01/07/2019 (Mon) 07:14:27 [Preview] No.3152 del
Here is the study. Not sure it'd be a good idea to blindly upload every mlp related paper like this I find but I may store them offline and have them on standby when thy disappear from the net.


Anon 01/07/2019 (Mon) 07:20:49 [Preview] No.3153 del
>>3152
I will still make notes and post observations, maybe organize a list at some point. I have found several papers, a lot of which seem to be related to looking through the fandom via critical theory (so Tumblr, yay...). Will stll even give those a look trough at least.


Anon 01/08/2019 (Tue) 17:53:11 [Preview] No.3168 del
Well, well, well....
Bridgefag is taking the lead at creating threads and I´ve got to say, not all the days you can get dense and detailed opening posts like that unless they are copy pasted.
Even though this was kind of expected considering the amount of times we have talked about the fandom every now and then. Basically, none of these threads are created out of nowhere. In fact, the main NMAiE intensified the brony discussions in it. It makes sense.

This thread cannot be created on /mlp/ though.

>>3148
>It is devoted to a rather nebulous topic of the fandom itself with an archival mindset.
it seems that by checking the old archives and by navigating to underground content, you can arrive at interesting conclusion and ending up looking at the fandom in its own mirror.

>These subjects maybe relevant at times in the discussion of certain happenings and periods within the fandom
this could predict some patterns when gen 5 happens or certain requested fan content

>While we are microscopic we have regular posting and a somewhat distinct culture as can be with 3 anons and the occasional drifter
for a number of users that one can count in the back of my hand, that´s a compliment.

>>3153
>I have found several papers, a lot of which seem to be related to looking through the fandom via critical theory (so Tumblr, yay...). Will stll even give those a look trough at least.
something tells me that you are going to reveal attitudes coming from Tumblr around 2015 and the events around Molestia.


Anon 01/08/2019 (Tue) 18:01:08 [Preview] No.3169 del
>>3150
>I'm not entirely sure how to describe my intent with this place but I sort of envision it as a secondary repository of various information on the fandom with some discussion on the side.
>Not sure it'll ever be a comprehensive archive of everything pony that every existed but I imagined it as a place that would have certain files shared in case they were deleted elsewhere.
well, it will get defined as time passes. I didn´t know what the personal project was until I turned it into a thread for discussing greens created in my mind. One will see its evolution and far from racing through, it´s more about finding what you want to compile in it.

>Within reason, think PDFs of scholarly research and studies and maybe a backup copy of somewhat notable works that may become lost later. Along with basic records, like old fandom websites and what the were like with maybe some archive links if possible.
so, does that mean that you have archives from the old chans or information from deleted MLP sites (besides the Wikis)?

>I was first inspired with some discussions earlier on here over what we thought th fandom was like in early days and the idea fully formed recently as I've been skimming through a mix of different fandom sites and various research papers.
yep, definitely this discussions from this board that leads into this. Let´s see how it pays off on its own.

> If this is successful in becoming something I could see it being linked elsewhere, and if I find the time I may even try to track down people
do you mean tracking down old fans that left the ride long ago like that programmer with his unfinished game?


Anon 01/08/2019 (Tue) 18:25:09 [Preview] No.3170 del
>>3151
>A lot of furries I'd imagine hopping off with the rest of the more tumblr types cira 2013 or 2014 and do to the exposure some memebers of the fandom to anthro and such it creating new furries later on.
that probably explains why there is a slight increase in NSFW content on Derpi. If that happened, the influx would come right at the middle of the ride, meaning that a good proportion of them have stayed while others jumped off the bandwagon around 2014-15. Truly ironic because Tumblr,save for porn blogs, had left MLP as a secondary franchise.

Although, maybe they are rotating all the time but with the introduction of certain characters, I can say that there could be (a bit) less friction in terms of taste.

>What's slightly interesting to me is that the fandom related study notes some of them having been involved in the study of furries of before and you'd think they'd be aware of that other research if not having some people who where on it.
it´s almost like those researchers could have come from KnowYourMeme or an internet phenomena site.

>You would think they'd note it. I mean their can't be that many furry studies right? right?
erm, maybe they did around the 2000s when they caused huge controversies around the net for normal users eyes.


>I may store them offline and have them on standby when thy disappear from the net.
/endpone/, where your brony archives end up remaining in the underground.


Anon 01/09/2019 (Wed) 06:07:56 [Preview] No.3181 del
>>3168
>This thread cannot be created on /mlp/ though.
No it couldn't. Certain sites you could not talk about at all and file type and size limit. Not to mention the simple dynamic and culture could get touchy and easily derail the threads with certain topics. This existence of this thread maybe something that could only exist here, as many others would censor certain aspects or at least get very touchy if it went to certain places.

>this could predict some patterns when gen 5 happens or certain requested fan content
That is exactly one what I am thinking. I want to record not just events, but prospective and discourse (when possible).

>something tells me that you are going to reveal attitudes coming from Tumblr around 2015 and the events around Molestia.
With what I briefly skimmed through was positive so far, as in they considered the fandom to be a force against traditional masculine norms. Later papers I bet will be more critical, at least with the way I see progressive media portraying us as a questionable cultural force that they group with their enemies to varying degrees (something else I'll gather and post here at somepoint).


Anon 01/09/2019 (Wed) 06:27:16 [Preview] No.3182 del
>>3169
>well, it will get defined as time passes. I didn´t know what the personal project was until I turned it into a thread for discussing greens created in my mind. One will see its evolution and far from racing through, it´s more about finding what you want to compile in it.
I was thinking of your personal project when making this, as this, while a different subject, could count as my personal project. At least in the sort term establishing phase.

>so, does that mean that you have archives from the old chans or information from deleted MLP sites (besides the Wikis)?
Yes. I have some. Though the records are scattered and incomplete because only with the last couple of years I've really been saving stuff. I did get some key events (formation of /mlpol/, death of a chan that I'll post later), but missed others. In fact. Getchan, a site that split off of ponychan and later absorbed Lunachan has just recently died and merged into bunkerchan, a 8chan leftypol bunker. So I missed one as the old site is offline. I do have a few screenshots I believe from a couple of years ago when I was trying to track down a certain jedi...
http://bunkerchan.xyz/GET/

>do you mean tracking down old fans that left the ride long ago like that programmer with his unfinished game?
Tracking down those that have unfinished projects and those who may have files or more info at the very least.


Anon 01/09/2019 (Wed) 06:53:01 [Preview] No.3183 del
>>3170
>that probably explains why there is a slight increase in NSFW content on Derpi. If that happened, the influx would come right at the middle of the ride, meaning that a good proportion of them have stayed while others jumped off the bandwagon around 2014-15.
One of the things that actually started me looking around was trying to access the presence of furries within the fandom and whether I was wrong to consider us completely seperate from them. 20 percent seems to be he magic number, and has been reflected in everything from various "scientific" polling and a relatively recent EQA poll that number held. For this there sure is a surprising lack of anthro and furry content in the derpibooru tags compared to what I'd expect from the remarkably consistent 20% mark. Part of me thinks this could be because bronies who are into the furry side of things may hangout on furry sites, another part maybe that some who consider being part of the fandom means they are a furry because some consider it a subset. Still, Derpibooru is a pillar and with a number that high I'd expect to be at least somewhat higher. This will warrent further investigation though it may require to at least peaking at some unpleasant places

>it´s almost like those researchers could have come from KnowYourMeme or an internet phenomena site.
I don't give too much credence to the individual studies. I find it hard to think that they'd get a full picture of the fandom do to more anti social chan side being less likely to participate and this being a internet fandom meaning the bronycon social side being overrepresented, though I do not fully discount the data as it could still reveal trends. Heck, maybe I'll be proven wrong as I go through it all.

>/endpone/, where your brony archives end up remaining in the underground.
That's were this could become. The underground fandom archive. Underground Library has a nice ring to it actually.


Anon 01/12/2019 (Sat) 01:53:58 [Preview] No.3193 del
>>3183
>20 percent seems to be he magic number,
No shouldn't it be all of us. We are all furries and you're just a secondary subset.

>For this there sure is a surprising lack of anthro and furry content in the derpibooru tags
Haven't most bronies moved to furry sites now?


Anon 01/13/2019 (Sun) 03:42:46 [Preview] No.3199 del
>>3193
>No shouldn't it be all of us. We are all furries and you're just a secondary subset.
Calling us a subset feels wrong as there are many who are exclusively into pony and don't have any interest with the furry fandom and on the chan side often outright hostility From what I see most of the fandom is that state. We also didn't have any of the same gatekeepers with most of internet organizing arising from 4chan users. On the conside that may hold a little more true as I know of some who where heavily connected to the furry fandom who were involved in that, (at least with bronycon), but even then I'm not sure how reflective it would be of the whole. The attitudes online in ponysites themselves have usually been no, with sometimes varying hints distaste. But I'll have to really look around to gage the feel and see if it was only the places I lurk as a opposed to the fandom attitude as a whole.

>Haven't most bronies moved to furry sites now?
I don't know the presence of the fandom on the brony sites but I can say that we have a fair bit websites that are active. /mlp/, Fimfiction, Derpibooru, and Equestria daily being the heart of the fandom and I would think it be foolish to think that there was more bronies on furry sites than there.


Anon 01/13/2019 (Sun) 03:51:28 [Preview] No.3201 del
>>3199
>on brony sites
*meant on furry sites.


Anon 01/14/2019 (Mon) 16:55:32 [Preview] No.3213 del
>>3183
>20 percent seems to be he magic number
Ever heard of Pareto distribution?


Anon 01/14/2019 (Mon) 21:22:25 [Preview] No.3217 del
>>3182
>In fact. Getchan, a site that split off of ponychan and later absorbed Lunachan has just recently died and merged into bunkerchan, a 8chan leftypol bunker.
Oh. That's a bit sad. Never really visited them 'cept for one or two singular visits, but it's always a shame to see those underground altchans die. Even though community centralisation is probably beneficial, seeing it happen invokes opposite feeling for me.


Anon 01/14/2019 (Mon) 22:11:38 [Preview] No.3219 del
>>3181
>Certain sites you could not talk about at all and file type and size limit.
the BO doesn´t approve. How the hell cannot you say anything about the file size? There are files that take up over 4MB that cannot be posted on /Mlp/ and because of that, you have to compress them on purpose in order to post the pic you want.

>the simple dynamic and culture could get touchy and easily derail the threads with certain topics.
dammit. We have derailed thread onto politics territory. I guess that sign is because of how users cannot handle certain taboos or what they call these days: trigger warnings.

>This existence of this thread maybe something that could only exist here, as many others would censor certain aspects or at least get very touchy if it went to certain places.
yeah, especially starting the thread with the furry topic in which a huge proportion of /mlp/ would jump onto it and shitpost the first thing lines that this is autistic or whatever. Not to mention that mods delete any off topic thread in very few minutes and you can barely do anything outside the usual generals and shitposting threads.

>I want to record not just events, but prospective and discourse (when possible).
well, sometimes one has to go full meta and detect the actual roots that drive this fanbase to keep this pace for 9 years. Gen 5 will most likely result as a fun experiment to witness.

>they considered the fandom to be a force against traditional masculine norms.
hence the love and tolerance meme that was so popular in the early years. Only Tumblr users found that line as an unironic statement until they dropped the show off because it didn´t accomplish all those beliefs.

>I see progressive media portraying us as a questionable cultural force that they group with their enemies to varying degrees
yeah, the CNN headline for example with the line coming from Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep or the association with the alt-right after episodes like The Cutie Map or Brotherhoooves Social happened.

>>3182
>this, while a different subject, could count as my personal project. At least in the sort term establishing phase.
yeah. My project has evolved in the end into writing greens and experimenting the narrative styles. From meta to full fics. That personal project of mine finally translated into a fanfic and fortunately, it´s there and I certainly regret a bit those first posts that could induce cringe to some extent. I suppose you will find the path for this personal project of yours.

>Getchan, a site that split off of ponychan and later absorbed Lunachan has just recently died and merged into bunkerchan, a 8chan leftypol bunker. So I missed one as the old site is offline.
basically like >>3217 said, it´s kind of disheartening how one cannot find its place and has to merge with unrelated alt chans to keep that spirit but with a very different cover.

>those that have unfinished projects and those who may have files or more info at the very least.
yeah, those are the ones that bring some interesting stuff or are worth to investigate material related to the fanbase.


Anon 01/14/2019 (Mon) 22:26:30 [Preview] No.3220 del
>>3183
>20 percent seems to be he magic number, and has been reflected in everything from various "scientific" polling and a relatively recent EQA poll that number held.
20%? are you sure about using it as the standard?
>there sure is a surprising lack of anthro and furry content in the derpibooru tags compared to what I'd expect from the remarkably consistent 20% mark
if we take into account that there are around 1.9 million of images on Derpi, the tags that involve explicitly the furry content, seems to equal around a 9% of the total pony content. However, that´s relatively speaking but the numbers of the anthro tag alone beats several NSFW material from several franchises around there.

>this could be because bronies who are into the furry side of things may hangout on furry sites, another part maybe that some who consider being part of the fandom means they are a furry because some consider it a subset.
>>3193
>We are all furries and you're just a secondary subset.
>Haven't most bronies moved to furry sites now?
in case that you didn´t know, Furaffinity accepted the brony tag. It literally puts the brony content next to its original material. In fact, it serves after the Tumblr fiasco with the NSFW material as an alternative to post that content. There are like 242k pony images around there.

>>3193
also see, >>3199. Ponyfags may not have any interest in furry content by itself unless it comes from the franchise. Not to mention that some outsiders or superficial fans don´t want to enter into the "dark side" at all.

>Underground Library has a nice ring to it actually.
well, Twilight is already in the OP image...so it fits.


Anon 01/14/2019 (Mon) 22:36:52 [Preview] No.3221 del
>>3199
>The attitudes online in ponysites themselves have usually been no, with sometimes varying hints distaste
wasn´t there a poll in which the "No" option won as for being considered as furries in EQD?
That part of the fanbase tend to reject more the furry content than the 4chan users (despite the latter showing a lot of distaste most of the times)

>/mlp/, Fimfiction, Derpibooru, and Equestria daily being the heart of the fandom and I would think it be foolish to think that there was more bronies on furry sites than there.

eeeyup, basically those. Even if you want to put furaffinity as a furry site, it stays as a secondary site for linking the images to Derpi along with Deviantart and Tumblr.

>I don't know the presence of the fandom on the furry sites
me neither, save the /trash/ board in which pony content got its place as well on it in the end.

>>3217
>Even though community centralisation is probably beneficial, seeing it happen invokes opposite feeling for me.
Sometimes that centralization is for the best and have a chance to attract popular boards from that chan. However, it loses its identity after merging to a place in which you don´t fit at all and end up staying as a forgotten attempt to revive the old traditions or vibes that you were used to seeing.


Anon 01/14/2019 (Mon) 23:56:44 [Preview] No.3227 del
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>>3219
>There are files that take up over 4MB that cannot be posted on /Mlp/ and because of that, you have to compress them on purpose in order to post the pic you want.
Pushing my arithmetic encoding jpeg gospel agenda to the extreme and almost obnoxious, little fun fact, there actually were some files as big as 800MB (that's right, megabytes) that you could post on 4chan.
How?
You see, when uploading a JPEG on 4chan, it strips its exif data (for security purposes), but not only that. It also undoes progressive scan and arithmetic encoding. (Scroll through your saved-from-4chan jpegs and you'll see that they all are baseline JPEGs with Huffman coding). By carefully crafted jpeg image, one could upload 800 byte file that got expanded into 800MB beast by 4chan.
But it seems like they fixed that hole.
https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/2411811


Jake Paul 01/15/2019 (Tue) 00:30:44 [Preview] No.3229 del
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>>3213
>Ever heard of Pareto distribution?
I've always heard that applied to wealth, but I guess that can apply to faggotry as well! It makes sense doesn't it? Why you guys both have some rather eponymous cringe and lolcows while also being usually hated a little less than furries and sometimes tolerated in places where furries are not.

>>3217
at least it didn't die in a massive civil war

>>3148
>Sit back and get /confy/
Maybe I will if this thread becomes a massive collection of brony lore


Anon 01/15/2019 (Tue) 22:27:08 [Preview] No.3230 del
>>3229
>I've always heard that applied to wealth, but I guess that can apply to faggotry as well! It makes sense doesn't it?
I don't know, that was just a sciolistic remark


Anon 01/19/2019 (Sat) 07:30:43 [Preview] No.3270 del
>>3220
>20%? are you sure about using it as the standard?
Well, considering the fact that most of the data I would be skeptical considering an internet subculture is something hard and nebulous to measure . I do find it interesting that two unrelated (well I think they are unrelated, as the state of th herd site hasn't not posted past 2014 and the bronystudy site is only more recent stuff) organizations coming up with the same number and th EqD poll coming up with 20% who consider bronies to be furries as well. Though easily some of that 28% of the 'I Have No Idea" option could be furries who participate in the fandom but are not sure if that should be considered distinct interest or not it still is a basic pattern that held from 4 years (2014 to 2018). Probably best to not let such research be the final answer of course but I find it interesting at the very least.

>a 9% of the total pony content. However, that´s relatively speaking but the numbers of the anthro tag alone beats several NSFW material from several franchises around there.
True, but from some of the talk and attitude I was starting to see from some circles that made me ask that question in th first place I would've expected it to be higher.

> Furaffinity accepted the brony tag. It literally puts the brony content next to its original material. In fact, it serves after the Tumblr fiasco with the NSFW material as an alternative to post that content. There are like 242k pony images around there.
I figured if they had a tag system they would have a "brony" or "mlp" tag. Didn't know exact stats because I've only been there twice that I can recall of the top of my head. I was planing to search there and other furry sites at a later stage.

>>3219
>dammit. We have derailed thread onto politics territory. I guess that sign is because of how users cannot handle certain taboos or what they call these days: trigger warnings.
Yeah. Though I didn't just mean SWJs but I could see if hosted on a larger place there be certain events that would be discusable do to both sensitivity and risk of turning into a hate thread Princess Molestia drama, certain admid of a site who was controversial, etc . Looking back at >>3148 I think I may have worded the no drama rule a little to strongly, but I was just trying t think ahead by the simple fact that if I autistically archive the histories of dozens of parts of the fandom there is a fair chance it could get linked elsewhere.

>well, sometimes one has to go full meta and detect the actual roots that drive this fanbase to keep this pace for 9 years. Gen 5 will most likely result as a fun experiment to witness.
Exactly. Maybe some interesting things will be uncovered? Comparing the early and possible sort years of gen5 to gen4 could yield some interesting themes.


Anon 01/19/2019 (Sat) 07:45:08 [Preview] No.3271 del
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>>3217
Yeah. Didn't visit much there either most of when I did was when it was a wasteland.

>Even though community centralisation is probably beneficial, seeing it happen invokes opposite feeling for me.
I'm actually not sure. I think there could be some risk of joining chans especially there'd be some anons who hated certain ascepts of the culture ( like the headache /ef/ caused ponychan, especially since it just became their lax rules board with just more lax rules). Though I don't know the culture of bunkerchan I do wonder if some hardcore anons may object to certain visitors and such if getchan goes anywhere at all


Anon 01/19/2019 (Sat) 07:50:43 [Preview] No.3272 del
>>3227
Well I wish I had know about that before.


Anon 01/19/2019 (Sat) 10:21:35 [Preview] No.3274 del
do bronies go back this far?


Anon 01/19/2019 (Sat) 17:24:51 [Preview] No.3275 del
>>3274
alright, the poster you have used over here is from 1986.
Asking that if bronies have interest in previous generations of MLP, my answer is no.

Fans have checked if they liked any of the previous installments of the franchises and the results are mostly negative to somewhat mixed, maybe Bridgefag (aka the creator of this thread) can show a poll from EQD to back this statement. For the fanbase in general, it serves as an historical archive that one visits out of curiosity or make a review or two about those gens.

Gen 1 is certainly the most interesting to talk about relatively speaking because it introduced character (or at least names) like Spike, Applejack, the Smooze (which appears in that poster by the way), Tirek and the seaponies.

I am mentioning these because they were revived and reused in generation 4, so they have become memorable or elemental parts of the franchise (in terms of canon) and for the fanbase. I´ve heard and seen a few clips that are somewhat dark like ponies transforming into dragons so one could imply that gen 4 is inspired from the 1st for the most part.

I cannot talk much about gen 2 because the timeline about its cartoon and toy line is somewhat confusing. So I will say that it has that tag because of a new of wave of toys.

As for gen 3 however, while it´s true that it introduced names like Rainbow Dash and Rarity, they have nothing in common save the name. That gen is what you can perfectly describe as girly as hell. This is the gen most outsiders would imagine when they think about MLP. The 2000s also brought a few cheap games just to promote the toyline but for the most part, no one cared.

As for gen 3.5, it had a pretty limited budget and it´s like the Velvet Underground with its last record, it´s seen as a taboo gen that made the franchise turn into ashes until the phoenix came in 2010.

2010 is definitely the year zero of this franchise and the internet phenomena that made this franchise so popular and why we are all here. The artstyle is what definitely sold the image and then, surprising all the strangers that it is decently cohesive and give a punch in the table to the industry.

Gen 1 only has 12644 images on Derpi, gen 2 is way less popular:only 719 pictures. Gen 3 rounds the 6000 mark and gen 3.5 has 1199 right now.

https://derpibooru.org/search?q=g1
https://derpibooru.org/search?q=g2
https://derpibooru.org/search?q=g3
https://derpibooru.org/search?q=gen+3.5+

While it´s not fair to use Derpibooru as the golden standard for everything, it does give you a clear a idea where the community goes.


Anon 01/19/2019 (Sat) 17:45:32 [Preview] No.3276 del
>>3274
so basically, if you asked a brony if he has interest on previous gens, a very small percentage of it will answer that they have interest on those gens. Maybe gen 1 has gained some relevancy and influence because of the additions that would get revived in gen 4....but that implies that gen 4 is what brings its interest in the first place.

Sure, there may be a few threads or little spaces dedicated about them in forums (MLP forums or Derpibooru) but that´s it. In fact, there are fans that try to reimagine the previous generations with the gen 4 artstyle. So it basically means that gen 4 is in fact, the standard for (in for not all) 95% of it at least. There could be all time fans dedicated to the toys, so the animation and quality of the cartoon itself, doesn´t hold much value for that kind of fan.

Previous gens serve like the 1st David Bowie album that no one listens to, for archival purposes, ideas that weren´t exploited properly or simply serve for documentaries and see the evolution of the franchise more than enjoyment coming by itself (especially in the 2000s where it get ridiculous).

I personally knew about the existence of it but never considered it too seriously. I only have checked the previous generations for funny reviews in Youtube,check its origins and how the characters were translated from there to gen 4.

I would say that there are more pictures about the IDW comics than entire generations and that EQG has way more popularity and content than the three previous decades combined.

My answer is no. I personally don´t go that far unless it´s translated to gen 4 or gen 5. As far as I am concerned, the franchise actually starts in 2010 and I would bet that gen 5 will have more content that any of gens in a matter of months (maybe weeks if it has tons of hype and fandom went for it completely). Hasbro can absolutely fuck it up but the biggest income and rivers of money have come from this decade......for very, very good reasons.

Almost nobody mentions MLP (in the fandom at least) referring to those gens save this one.


Anon 01/20/2019 (Sun) 06:59:51 [Preview] No.3283 del
>>3274
I'm going to be mainly backing my fellow anon's answer though I have some to add. Yes, basically the majority of the fandom's interest lies with the current gen. Most fans dislike th previous gens to varying degrees. Gen 1 is the most respected of the older gens from what I'v personally see do to the lore it brings to the table and the fact it got the ball rolling. Though many still laugh at it "eighties-toy-ness" I have seen a few actually like it and be impressed slightly (gen 1 tirek threating to make heads roll being one such interests). Still, usually gen1 is not directly used in fanworks itself sans some crossover fanfiction usually involving time travel. (Though as it has been said, often many will take elements and make a gen4 version of it)
Gen 3 is next, but is usually more laughed at and memed ironically. Gen 2 is disliked when it is brought up, but it is the most obscure of them. Gen 3.5 is the most hated and is 100% ironic and or nightmare fuel in portrayal.

If you're talking about if the Adult fandom predates the current gen it should be noted there was an adult online fandom that existed before th current gen. It was a mix of people who had grown up with the franchise and a few pure toy collectors with less personal connections. Interestingly I did see one commenter on a website years ago claim that the term "brony" predated the current fandom and that him and a few others were the "true" bronies; I have found a some males who were part of pregen 4 online communities or enthusiast groups but never the term "brony" so far. There is some people who did hope over to the current fandom who were from there, and who do sometimes fully participate while still showing more love to the previous gens, but I haven't commonly encountered it. So technically no, but from the perspective of someone from this older more traditional fandom it could be more complicated.

>>3275
> Fans have checked if they liked any of the previous installments of the franchises and the results are mostly negative to somewhat mixed, maybe Bridgefag (aka the creator of this thread) can show a poll from EQD to back this statement.
I'll have to look but I do have pic related from the perhaps most cringy 2012 state of the herd report.


Anon 01/26/2019 (Sat) 23:20:02 [Preview] No.3305 del
>>3270
>I do find it interesting that two unrelated (well I think they are unrelated, as the state of th herd site hasn't not posted past 2014 and the bronystudy site is only more recent stuff) organizations coming up with the same number and th EqD poll coming up with 20% who consider bronies to be furries as well
that explains why you set that number as the "official" number for this topic. Although I mostly think that this can be considered as a coincidence. So the reason behind to claim it as a truth to establish a revision is not all that solid even though the studies are what they historically show about it.

>some of that 28% of the 'I Have No Idea" option could be furries who participate in the fandom but are not sure if that should be considered distinct interest or not it still is a basic pattern that held from 4 years (2014 to 2018).
or basically bronies that enjoy anthro material but cannot be sure if they like other things. Not to mention that the internet terms keep varying over time and with its use as well. It´s like putting tags to music, one cannot guess which gender of music that song is or what is the strict line that defines the concept (in theory). That EQD gives a middle of the road option that might be coming from furries to the core or people that basically don´t have this mindset of division and just enjoy what their minds do.

As you said, we´ll never have the final answer to it by just looking at this.

>I was starting to see from some circles that made me ask that question in th first place I would've expected it to be higher.
I won´t deny that there is a public for it. However, just because they get a good amount of upvotes, it doesn´t mean all the fans enjoy that kind of specific material. For example, there are people who dislike the 3d anthro models because they are basically humans with pony faces yet they qualify as anthro. Others do not like grotesque content and that implies anthro most of the time. A good portion of the fanbase may not care at all about the NSFW content and just put the safe mode all the time. It gives you an illusion that by having successful pics compared to SFW implies that all the material is like that (cause and effect) when NSFW doesn´t hold a consistent line, much less when anthro doesn´t have its rules written.

>I was planing to search there and other furry sites at a later stage.
well, it would be nice to figure it out what lead them to add the brony term into the description of the core site.


Anon 01/26/2019 (Sat) 23:28:55 [Preview] No.3306 del
>>3270
>I think I may have worded the no drama rule a little to strongly, but I was just trying t think ahead by the simple fact that if I autistically archive the histories of dozens of parts of the fandom there is a fair chance it could get linked elsewhere.
fair enough. That rule is basically just to prevent that any anon goes and posts in a thread: "Hey, this faggot is compiling stuff of the fandom. What an autist". Honestly, it wouldn´t surprise me that much but considering that the interest is in an all time low, I suppose something like this does a better job than doing nothing and bitch about others all the time. I haven´t seen the word autist all the much lately. Either it´s because I am not looking into it too hard or it´s because the fans have accepted that taking part in community that shouldn´t have existed feels wrong in the first place but in the end, one does not care.

I don´t know. I suppose like I did last year, one has to take a step forward that looks scary at first but then, it all relies on the author or messenger intentions.

>Some interesting things will be uncovered? Comparing the early and possible sort years of gen5 to gen4 could yield some interesting themes.
question of the year. I need a crystal ball for that. I can certainly say that gen 5 will be more equally observed with similar eyes that gen 4 did....mostly because the fanbase exists and the previous decades before this, it wasn´t there.


Anon 01/26/2019 (Sat) 23:44:07 [Preview] No.3307 del
>>3283
well, this post just sums up perfectly the rollercoaster of MLP in general.

>I'll have to look but I do have pic related from the perhaps most cringy 2012 state of the herd report.
I think this serves for its purpose considering that it was created at the time when the explosion was happening.The only change that would happen (I am implying without having any recent poll in my mind), is that there could be a bigger percentage of fans having more tolerance to previous gens (a slight increase about gen 1 for the most part).

As for the rest, an updated poll would basically reaffirm the same answer despite gen 4 facing a lot of change in it.

>>3227
>there actually were some files as big as 800MB (that's right, megabytes) that you could post on 4chan.
BIG LMAO. Incredible (uploading that insane size in a random thread doesn´t seem a very smart move considering that the internet speed around that time though)

>It also undoes progressive scan and arithmetic encoding. (Scroll through your saved-from-4chan jpegs and you'll see that they all are baseline JPEGs with Huffman coding). By carefully crafted jpeg image, one could upload 800 byte file that got expanded into 800MB beast by 4chan.
huh very interesting.

Funniest thing is that one user mentions that he would have fun by turning a 1MB image to a 1GB one.

>But it seems like they fixed that hole.
basically, putting a "no fun allowed" rule


Anon 01/30/2019 (Wed) 07:40:50 [Preview] No.3331 del
Alright, here is the first of several post to /go/ that I will be making over the coming weeks. They involve the initial notes on various subjects that will be checked on later, with open to contributions by others (if possible).

So, this website, I had run into it a few times over the years and never really given it much thought. I knew it was a mlp news website with a forum and booru that was more restrictive in rules but that's about it.
The news section didn't last very long (I think they closed in 2015) but the forum and booru lived on.
http://roundstable.com/forums/
https://web.archive.org/web/20130206185534/http://www.roundstable.com/ (archive link, because at some point they deleted their news section)
http://www.bronibooru.com/

The website is fairly interesting now that I've given it a look, if not a tiny bit strange. The website seems to be populated with tumblr types, more left of center than than the apolitical with left sympathies that I'd say be the average equestria daily user. There's social justice terminology thrown around (safe space, expanded genders beyond gay/bi/trans, you get the picture) and the political conversations I've seen so far much more left leaning with no right leaning opinions at all . I'm not really going to judge them on that, unless I see the type of bulling and competitive fake virtue singling that such communities can often breed . It's fine if they have there own little space, especially if otherwise they'd feel uncomfortable at some of the main sites (and or try to change their dynamic in an undesirable way). This isn't the strange part however.

The main thing that seems a little strange to me was the extremely restrictive rules of the booru. They have a no non canon shipping rule on their booru. I thought it seemed a little excessive even for sfw and the only reason I could think it be there would be there would be because of social conservatives trying to block gay ships. Considering the left leaning bend with an LGBT presence this left me scratching my head. I wondered if they had been an more apolitical or right wing bunch who has shifted over the years or something but there's a gender and sexual minorities pride thread from 2012.
http://roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=375
By the way, the booru has post dating back to 2011.
http://www.bronibooru.com/posts/246?tags=princess_luna

So, doesn't it seem a little insane that the they couldn't post any gay shippings to the booru at all till recently with the confirmations of a few characters? Seems it would be a dampener on the LBGT side of things, and they technically could only post lesbian ships at that. I did find this rule being violated frequently but it's still in the rules and the fact that they seem to be unsure about whether a pair of characters in a vector lifted from the show counted as a violation back in 2018 shows they must still enforce it partly or something...
http://www.bronibooru.com/static/terms_of_service?url=%2F
http://www.bronibooru.com/posts?tags=shipping


Anon 01/30/2019 (Wed) 08:01:07 [Preview] No.3332 del
>>3331
Other notes:

Their rules seem what I would expect of a moderately restrictive left community with the only thing I see being weird is the rule regarding the use of somepony/everypony being seen as disrespecting to humans or something. Wonder why they'd explicitly state that and what caused them to do so.
http://roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2

Also, it is fairly active in an era of discord and social media. Not the most happening place and some parts clearly are inactive but it is still getting daily posts and the booru has frequent uploads. Not a lot of smaller web fourms can claim that nowadays in this era.

Anyways I will be investigating further (and if anypony else has any info, that'd be nice!) Just out of a desire both to chronicle it's existence and out of sheer curiosity. Though it is not a high priority. Isn't the weirdest thing out there but those rules did leave me with my head scratching and it's interesting that it hasn't dissipated or died by this point. (Just look at the ponyville or friendship is magic forums) And I honestly do wounder about the dynamic there and it's history, especially why they'd keep the no noncannon shipping rule.


Anon 01/30/2019 (Wed) 22:26:15 [Preview] No.3337 del
>>3331
>there's social justice terminology thrown around (safe space, expanded genders beyond gay/bi/trans, you get the picture) and the political conversations I've seen so far much more left leaning with no right leaning opinions at all . I'm not really going to judge them on that,

I think you have delivered a pretty good answer by yourself:
>"it's fine if they have there own little space, especially if otherwise they'd feel uncomfortable at some of the main sites (and or try to change their dynamic in an undesirable way)."

which I agree. Ideologies may be varied and if they want to stay away from any outsider zone, that´s fine. They create that space for themselves and just for themselves so threads don´t get derailed or too out of hand.

As a mod back there in Nextchan, I totally get why they implement certain rules for themselves in order to carry it properly. Understandable. Furthermore, we are talking about a forum, not an imageboard so that implies more order and rules by nature.

Now:
>The main thing that seems a little strange to me was the extremely restrictive rules of the booru.
here it comes the good part. Let´s check them.

>They have a no non canon shipping rule on their booru.
Sorry...did I read this line correctly? WHAT? Seriously? I mean, ships may be autistic or may have induced to mindlessly stupid ship wars in the past but nowadays, people do it for fun or they want to play with a subtle implication and bring romance onto the table just because (insert any random reason over her)

most of them are implied because of a little gesture or charming moment and fans milk that moment because they feel like doing so. R.I.P the lesbian and hhh threads of /mlp/. Banning that image of Silver Stream hugging Gallus when it appeared on What Lies Beneath...and what about about ships between OCs?

honestly, no comments. It restricts freedom and most importantly, fun. Those ships are not going to happen, so what´s the problem? Fooling the newest fans because of those pictures? Put a little comment as soon as that user ask about it or feels confused. Sue, shipping content doesn´t come with huge amount of good content. However, MLP is one of those franchise that delivers something worth to praise even if you don´t support the ship by itself.

>I thought it seemed a little excessive even for sfw and the only reason I could think it be there would be there would be because of social conservatives trying to block gay ships
and even conservatives, who are shown in the propaganda as the most intolerant group in this topic, while a few look down, mock or simply make jokes about gays and stuff.....they let them do whatever things they want on their own.

If that was the revenge, it would be pretty stupid to justify it with that route . The logical answer would have been showing more pride or reinforcement, not by blocking your own zone and containing your form to express yourself.

I suppose that would break their own safe spaces....


Anon 01/30/2019 (Wed) 23:06:34 [Preview] No.3338 del
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>>3331
>http://roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=375
now, after seeing this thread, I can see why you suspect this forum was created with that purpose in mind......and it´s still stupid that I cannot understand.

about that thread, it´s obvious that it came from the era of 2008-14 where the progressive views were gaining traction and popularity.

>doesn't it seem a little insane that the they couldn't post any gay shippings to the booru at all till recently with the confirmations of a few characters?
do I find it a logical reason behind it? Absolutely not. Well,I DO have a little aspect that could justify. Where are the servers located? I suspect that this could be running on Russia and let me say that this country hasn´t been really LGBT friendly to be honest. In fact, some hate crimes were reported during this decade despite its legalization since 1993. I would start by checking the country where this works because while users may have been posting fro USA or western countries, the owners may not be that tolerant with it.

Otherwise, I wouldn´t know how to answer that incoherence.

>they technically could only post lesbian ships at that. I did find this rule being violated frequently but it's still in the rules and the fact that they seem to be unsure about whether a pair of characters in a vector lifted from the show counted as a violation back in 2018 shows they must still enforce it partly or something...
facehoof*
they´d better not read the poisonous fic about Party Favor and Double Diamond...

Well, they have let lesbian couples. I suppose it´s better late than never and a big achievement ....to a problem that any other part of the fandom included and didn´t spend a single neuron about that topic in the first place save /mlp/ drama and such but we all know that those shitshows barely come as a surprise


Anon 01/30/2019 (Wed) 23:29:44 [Preview] No.3339 del
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>>3332
>the only thing I see being weird is the rule regarding the use of somepony/everypony being seen as disrespecting to humans or something
no fun allowed.jpg
I thought part of the brony community was about inventing a bronyspeak for random reasons. Those are expressions that are even used in the show (and while everycreature doesn´t work and it´s criticized a lot, /mlp/ has managed to meme about it in the 4CC).

>Wonder why they'd explicitly state that and what caused them to do so.
I don´t have the explanation of that decision in my power. In fact, I am still processing why someone would enforce that shipping prohibition in the first place considering how internet fandoms work.

>it is fairly active in an era of discord and social media.
well, almost 45k posts around there with 446 users in its peak of activity in this last November. Not bad numbers for an isolated place of this fandom.

>those rules did leave me with my head scratching and it's interesting that it hasn't dissipated or died by this point. (Just look at the ponyville or friendship is magic forums) And I honestly do wounder about the dynamic there and it's history, especially why they'd keep the no noncannon shipping rule.
same. Like I said, I am pretty confused about what bothers you as well. What´s its appeal? Their safe spaces I guess. The show discussion thread about season 8 has less posts than /endpone/ ironically enough. So one would have to check the most active side in order to jump into conclusions.

>>3333
aaand the quads were used for checking the rules of this site. Using links of pictures instead of posting a few....

even in countries like India and the Pacific islands have a pretty good bandwidth these days and it´s pretty easy to convert one png image to a jpeg like the BO said in the edit thread before posting it. In a thread that delivers 35 posts per page, as long as users don´t upload more than 5 images for each post of 10 MB, I highly doubt it saturates the connection.

Anyway....


Anon 02/01/2019 (Fri) 07:45:57 [Preview] No.3348 del
>>3306
>fair enough. That rule is basically just to prevent that any anon goes and posts in a thread: "Hey, this faggot is compiling stuff of the fandom. What an autist".
The rule also was to dissuaded the idea that this would be som kind of /cow/ or discussion of every little bit of juicy drama going on in th fandom. Though some of that, perhaps a lot of it, I wouldn't call irrelevant, my thoughts were of people just wanting to contribute to start stuff. X poster is a beta cuck! You get the picture.

>>3307
>I think this serves for its purpose considering that it was created at the time when the explosion was happening.The only change that would happen (I am implying without having any recent poll in my mind), is that there could be a bigger percentage of fans having more tolerance to previous gens (a slight increase about gen 1 for the most part).
>As for the rest, an updated poll would basically reaffirm the same answer despite gen 4 facing a lot of change in it.
That's basically want I'd expect.

>>3305
>that explains why you set that number as the "official" number for this topic. Although I mostly think that this can be considered as a coincidence. So the reason behind to claim it as a truth to establish a revision is not all that solid even though the studies are what they historically show about it.
Considering I've said that I distrust all statics attempts to try to measure a nebulous and fluid online fandom, agreed. But it's just interesting how it showed up as a pattern that holds in a way.

>well, it would be nice to figure it out what lead them to add the brony term into the description of the core site.
Though it will take me awhile to gather stuff before I decide to make a post about it, and I still have to investigate further. I think I've found some interesting stuff relating to some hostility on the furry to bronies.


Anon 02/01/2019 (Fri) 08:01:59 [Preview] No.3349 del
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>>3339
I don´t have the explanation of that decision in my power. In fact, I am still processing why someone would enforce that shipping prohibition in the first place considering how internet fandoms work.
It's just weird. I mean I wouldn't think too much of the site if it wasn't for that rule and some smaller confusion on how they conduct themselves.
http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=45
Post from 2017 proudly linking gay shipping from the booru.
http://www.bronibooru.com/posts/116690
Yet this discussion from 2018 suggests the anti non canon ship rule is still has some notion of being enforced and they have strict definitions. It doesn't make sense!

> well, almost 45k posts around there with 446 users in its peak of activity in this last November. Not bad numbers for an isolated place of this fandom.
Most webforums I see now that aren't part of some particular niches are usually have peek activities from years ago, so that is quite significant to me.


Anon 02/01/2019 (Fri) 08:06:42 [Preview] No.3350 del
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>>3339
>>3333
So... I messed up big time.

>even in countries like India and the Pacific islands have a pretty good bandwidth these days and it´s pretty easy to convert one png image to a jpeg like the BO said in the edit thread before posting it.
No, it wasn't do to bandwidth. I just forgot. I didn't even notice I had gotten it till you pointed it out... so it's just plan retardation there fam.


Anon 02/02/2019 (Sat) 07:01:21 [Preview] No.3357 del
I have spent the fair portion of the night searching for two Eqd alternatives that existed cira 2013 or 14. One was called, if I remember it right, Discord Daily. It was a group of people who formed there own hangout from Equestria Daily after EqD became more restrictive in comment threads being on topic (or something like that, almost 4 years since I've visited there at least.) And it was a focus of the site. The site did however sometimes report on news and feature fanfiction on its own. I used to visit there fairly often but just got out of habit, though I only usually lurked and only commented once or twice. I think the site was hosted on blogspot but I have no memories of the address, or whether if they had there own full domain. I just know that that searching for discord post the rise of the app anywhere is hasn't been easy.

The other is a website that was Canterlot themed and was trying to a better EqD on a more restrictive end of the spectrum. Only checked it a few times long ago (2013?) only brightside for this one is that I at least remember it being linked on fimfiction a couple of times so a link should be still be there, I just have to dig. I would be surprised if either is active (and maybe not even online) but just mentioning it on the off chance one of y'all ever knew of either of them.

On a happier note. I was surprised to see the once dead and completely offline equestria gaming has apperently been brought back. (Even if there is not too much going on). This is a site a visited a lot 2012 2014 era also and it brings a little nostalgia to me to see it alive. Since I haven't visited it in years.
http://www.equestriagaming.net/


Anon 02/02/2019 (Sat) 07:31:55 [Preview] No.3358 del
Found a really old fragment of EqD.
https://canterlotdaily.blogspot.com/
At least that what it looks like.


Anon 02/02/2019 (Sat) 21:54:11 [Preview] No.3362 del
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>>3357
Welp. Having little luck so far. Discord Daily is too vague. I've checked blogspot, web archive albeit not fully knowing if there is some advanced search secrets I do not know because retarded searching for it in filters and year range dosn't yield much either.

Even without discord, I get all kind of results either relating to equestria daily, mlp in general, or this satirical news blog.
https://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/12/discord-and-chrysalis-around-world.html
http://www.dailydiscord.com/

Site by site searching didn't do it either, though I remember site using the old intense debate comment system. Though I didn't find much doing a site search for it. They split off from EqD. Intense debate has unified comment accounts so it stances to reason that somewhere the comments to the site are recorded there even if the sites down. If I could find the enforcement actions on EqD that caused the split that would be helpful. I also acknowledge that I may have misremember the name...

https://www.intensedebate.com/people/funnyrawr
These profiles take a long time to search through. Note: this is the account of the old horse news reporter.

I have found other things searching through, a lot of which maybe relevant to /go/ so I wouldn't call it a total waste of time.


Anon 02/03/2019 (Sun) 00:39:21 [Preview] No.3365 del
your latest posts seem to compile very interesting links and. two that have stuck with me the most are the fact that Equestria Gaming has updated itself twice recently and checking the old (even rare because whenever you click on something,the normal website does the process instead) design of Equestria Daily.

I will discuss them properly but as for now,I am mentioning those two highlights.


Anon 02/03/2019 (Sun) 02:48:02 [Preview] No.3367 del
>>3365
>your latest posts seem to compile very interesting links
Funny enough I found several mlp related websites that I never heard of and one that I did but have little history on why that it exists and a couple of cornors that are surprisingly active that I have yet to link because I want to investigate around and my main focus at the time was looking for Discord Daily and it still is, now it bugs me


Anon 02/03/2019 (Sun) 22:55:31 [Preview] No.3369 del
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TALK TO ME
I TALK BACK
LETS TALK OWLS
OAKLEY SHADES

WE FINNA HAVE FUN
OH BEHAVE
WATCH DA OWL WITH /SP/


Anon 02/03/2019 (Sun) 23:17:52 [Preview] No.3371 del
>>3369
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6zJcdCEpfDw [Embed]

I wish I were invited to the Sugarcube Corner instead.


Anon 02/04/2019 (Mon) 21:45:52 [Preview] No.3374 del
>>3348
>was to dissuaded the idea that this would be som kind of /cow/ or discussion of every little bit of juicy drama going on in th fandom
>my thoughts were of people just wanting to contribute to start stuff. X poster is a beta cuck! You get the picture.
yeah, not getting into yellow press and getting into personal stuff. Just the events, ideas or concepts more than the messenger who usually gets shot most of the time.

>But it's just interesting how it showed up as a pattern that holds in a way.
a curiosity to take notes and put it as an observation.

>I think I've found some interesting stuff relating to some hostility on the furry to bronies.
you have mentioned it before I think. Bronies may act a bit more positive towards them but in reverse, it doesn´t keep that positive view.

>>3349
>It's just weird. I mean I wouldn't think too much of the site if it wasn't for that rule and some smaller confusion on how they conduct themselves.
>http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=45
>Post from 2017 proudly linking gay shipping from the booru.
I certainly see that thread as a contemporary process. Desiring memes, content or whatever it´s related to any kind of ship just to break the rules. Either it´s for fun, for putting the middle finger to its absurd system, for attraction...

I think that behavior, for the OP at least, comes because of a restrictive situation and ironically, it hasn´t been deleted.

However
>http://www.bronibooru.com/posts/116690
>Yet this discussion from 2018 suggests the anti non canon ship rule is still has some notion of being enforced and they have strict definitions. It doesn't make sense!
as if I can find and point out what kind of messed up logic they have. They have implemented fences to the field and they don´t keep a consistent word about their principals. It looks arbitrary and so confusing in that aspect that one could write a few paragraphs pointing out all the mistakes. If this was a more popular place (in an alternate timeline), you would have tons of drama and controversies about this topic.

>Most webforums I see now that aren't part of some particular niches are usually have peek activities from years ago, so that is quite significant to me.
probably because the fanbase still gets users but they join in alternative places? or is it because older fans migrate to these places and get bored of this? do the political views make that forum appealing?

>it wasn't do to bandwidth. I just forgot. I didn't even notice I had gotten it till you pointed it out... so it's just plan retardation there fam.
alright. That statement felt weird because... what country doesn´t have internet these days?

Anyway...


Anon 02/04/2019 (Mon) 22:10:15 [Preview] No.3375 del
>>3357
>I have spent the fair portion of the night searching for two Eqd alternatives that existed cira 2013 or 14.
jesus anon. It´s almost like you follow the contrarian trend that Seth does. And you can tell the hours´ difference between these two posts. One word: Goddamn.

Although:
>>3367
>my main focus at the time was looking for Discord Daily and it still is, now it bugs me
oh, that one. Well I suppose that you won´t get what you are looking for yet you find a few gems along the way.

>I found several mlp related websites that I never heard of and one that I did but have little history on why that it exists and a couple of cornors that are surprisingly active
rough diamonds that were hidden in order to rescue themwhat does it feel like I am describing this move as if this was the MLP movie?

>The site did however sometimes report on news and feature fanfiction on its own.
well, that strategy could have created a different trend/branch for the fanbase if those levels of popularity were kept for more years.


>I think the site was hosted on blogspot but I have no memories of the address, or whether if they had there own full domain. I just know that that searching for discord post the rise of the app anywhere is hasn't been easy.
gaming has ruined that word for that social media. Well, not only has ruined the word and I definitely empathize with that annoyance because all you will get are discussions about the app and not the independent site.

>The other is a website that was Canterlot themed and was trying to a better EqD on a more restrictive end of the spectrum.
>would be surprised if either is active (and maybe not even online) but just mentioning it on the off chance one of y'all ever knew of either of them.
I don´t know about it. I suppose these things happen because there are so many sites and copies to the successful blog that the intentions barely matter. It´s almost as if this board or /8pone/ or whatever, tries to copy /mlp/ and believes that it´s going to be successful because of just fixing the blueprint.


Anon 02/04/2019 (Mon) 22:34:29 [Preview] No.3376 del
>>3357
>I was surprised to see the once dead and completely offline equestria gaming has apperently been brought back. (Even if there is not too much going on).Since I haven't visited it in years.
http://www.equestriagaming.net/
Well, that´s nice to see and if it hasn´t died yet, it´s definitely going to survive the end of this gen remaining active. Those two little updates (even if they are Let´s Play videos) bring a bit of hope.

Between the end of 2017 and the early months of 2018, it has stayed almost completely dead (with only 11 articles written in 2018). Cross the fingers if they get a bigger number for 2019.

>Found a really old fragment of EqD.
>https://canterlotdaily.blogspot.com/
>At least that what it looks like.
I have thought about using this leftover banner with modified letters for a moment. The rest does appear in the original Equestria Daily but this one does not. So I suppose that´s the only "original feature" to come out that fragment.


Anon 02/04/2019 (Mon) 22:56:44 [Preview] No.3377 del
>>3362
I AM DERAILING THE THREAD WITH MY BOOKS REEEEEEEE

That face reminds of something....gee I wonder what pony could have influenced Twilight. I don´t blame her, that´s the face I would put as well if I found about the rule 34 of my identity.

>I get all kind of results either relating to equestria daily, mlp in general, or this satirical news blog.
Let´s see
>https://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/12/discord-and-chrysalis-around-world.html
hey kids! Do you know the purpose of globalization? Of course you know the answer. It´s just to spread the word of the villains, now with your own languages!

Truly a reference to get influenced by.

>http://www.dailydiscord.com/
mixing politics with a satirical tone as you have said. Definitely not the most original idea, some of them are really projected and biased to exaggerate them. Not a big fan of these despite liking fun and politics but both things combined....don´t usually work all that much unless you are completely independent.

Moving onto the fanbase again...

>Intense debate has unified comment accounts so it stances to reason that somewhere the comments to the site are recorded there even if the sites down

I believe that EQD has recently posted an article about recovering those old comments because of those recordings in that system.

>These profiles take a long time to search through. Note: this is the account of the old horse news reporter.
Horse News? The web about /mlp/ related news?
>IWTCIRD
well, there it goes my question. It never fails, also he mentions the bible in the last posts lmao.

Now, 239 weeks ago and about those season 4 comments, it hints that the separation happened around he start of season 4?

>a lot of which maybe relevant to /go/ so I wouldn't call it a total waste of time.
well, gathering info doesn´t make it a total waste of time. I say that until now, I wouldn´t have checked these sites like ever because they only offer a small proportion of impact about the fanbase when people just browse the main pillars all the time even Reddit increases its numbers over time and its own niche to keep themselves active without getting tired


Anon 02/04/2019 (Mon) 23:44:04 [Preview] No.3378 del
>>3359
>https://www.wikihow.com/Act-Like-Discord-from-My-Little-Pony:-Friendship-Is-Magic
between this and The Stanley Parable, you cannot go wrong with copying him. The show gave him a 2nd chance for a reason: the jokes.

because he is the most basic of jokes

>https://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/248675
an expansion of Tails of Equestria. I wonder if they include the latest additions and lore of 2018.

>https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20131030172322AAqzaKz&p=discord%20daily%20mlp
I usually laugh at yahoo answers but for 2013, in the middle of the brony explosion, I find impressive that there were reasonable comments considering how annoying ponies were to outsiders. Who gave it a dislike? I am sure that person doesn´t like answers that require common sense.

Props to Sky. Thumbs up.

>https://www.mlpmerch.com/
this site is literally the EQD of toys for MLP. Isn´t this site linked on EQD directly?

The peak of its forum was in April 2017 by the way.

Having said that, it has a very cool looking design.


eee 02/07/2019 (Thu) 02:49:36 [Preview] No.3403 del
>>3374
>I certainly see that thread as a contemporary process. Desiring memes, content or whatever it´s related to any kind of ship just to break the rules. Either it´s for fun, for putting the middle finger to its absurd system, for attraction...
Weird thing is I do not see anything that prohibits shipping in the rules of there website. only in the booru.
http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2

>if this was a more popular place (in an alternate timeline), you would have tons of drama and controversies about this topic.
Oh, you bet it.

>alright. That statement felt weird because... what country doesn´t have internet these days?
There is a few very rural parts of the USA that only have dial up still. If I lived at my grandparents country place our fastest Internet there is by placing a small mobile network adapter on a pole to get internet that was faster than dial up and even then it wasn't that good. So it's not likely, but also not impossible for me.

>yeah, not getting into yellow press and getting into personal stuff. Just the events, ideas or concepts more than the messenger who usually gets shot most of the time.
pretty much this. It could perhaps us some reshaping still but that's what I'm trying to avoid.


Anon 02/07/2019 (Thu) 02:52:16 [Preview] No.3404 del
>>3148
>eee
>I'm triple e the namefag
Must've hit the keyboard or something.


Anon 02/07/2019 (Thu) 04:41:09 [Preview] No.3405 del
>>3378
>>3375
>very cool design
Indeed it does

>this site is literally the EQD of toys for MLP. Isn´t this site linked on EQD directly?
That's not the strangest part. This is the strangest part.
https://ponytoynews.weebly.com/
Another active toy related news website, hosted on weebly of all things. I have so many questions. Why weebly? If you didn't want to self host there are blogs that be better suited where ya still wouldn't have to pay up that have a better format and you wouldn't have to worry about image space. It appears to have opened up only in the last couple of years. Has a sister website run by the same guy that is a list of mlp toy prototype images that looks pretty interesting honestly.
https://mylittleprototypes.weebly.com/

https://canterlotavenue.com/
https://canterlotavenue.com/rules/
https://canterlotavenue.com/blog/403/public-apology-from-staff/
Next one that I found was this website that is for Role Playing. Apparently is connected to the MLPforums. Looks alright, in fact, I'd say that there is a lot of potential from a design perspective.Even if it isn't the most busiest place it is surprisingly active and seems to have daily postings (sans the forum). Though the rules are restrictive, Not in an SJW way but appears to be more in the spirit of say, keeping things clean and drama free from a family friendly sort of way which I suppose is a understandable aim, at least with minors, but often leads to drama in itself with all the rules and the moderation seems to have had some controversy. This combined with the fact that it has a social media interface reminding me too much of facebook, means I'd probably just only be monitoring it from afar with a critical eye.

https://www.brony.com/
https://www.brony.com/remember-mysterious-pony-clip-2013-san-diego-comic-con/
https://www.brony.com/little-pony-friendship-magic-character/
https://www.brony.com/category/podcasts/
Who are this people? IDK, I've occasionally ran into it over the years but never paid much attention till when I ran into again when looking for Discord Daily. It clearly has some kind of monetary aim with the site but I don't know who runs it. It's news section feels like EqD if it was buzzfeed. It's still making posts but seems to have gone inactive for the most part. Further investigation with it's recently inactive podcast and old articles is certainly warranted.

https://whatisabrony.com/
Reminiscent of the old attitude of the fandom being a subculture and identity to be proud of. Though it has a more chill feel than some. Was surprised to find the blog had updated twice last year considering it looks like something that should be totally abandoned by this point. Apparently run by LittleshyFM, a major fandom yter that I little knowledge of do to never paid attention too.

http://ponyriffs.weebly.com/
This site seems to be devoted to making fun of bad fanfiction with its own style of meta fanfiction comedy. There was a couple of questions I had with it that I'll discuss later. still been looking for discord daily!


Anon 02/07/2019 (Thu) 06:25:20 [Preview] No.3406 del
>>3405
This is not a call for commentary just posting the more interesting stuff that I found on the side to look through at everypony's leisure. You can post observations but you don't have ta go through each and comment in the day since, ya'know, school

>>3376

>I have thought about using this leftover banner with modified letters for a moment.
That maybe a good idea. It'd be a nice banner, though I wonder if credits be an issue?

>Well, that´s nice to see and if it hasn´t died yet, it´s definitely going to survive the end of this gen remaining active. Those two little updates (even if they are Let´s Play videos) bring a bit of hope.
Yeah. Maybe I'll become a commenter there just to show feedback.

>Now, 239 weeks ago and about those season 4 comments, it hints that the separation happened around he start of season 4?
I've done a little digging. This twitter account I'v seen linked around as a horse news reporter before, but horse news described sweetiebot as a reader. Though he still seems to be connected to them. I've seen others before describe this account as a horse news reporter who vanished in 2014, but that maybe a partial misconception. So this account could've been overhyped. there could be some interesting stuff possibly in the old comments and tweets. but it is a secondary objective to discord daily!
https://twitter.com/SweetieBotatDD
https://www.horse-news.org/2014/05/fandom-history-research-yields.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

>mixing politics with a satirical tone as you have said. Definitely not the most original idea, some of them are really projected and biased to exaggerate them. Not a big fan of these despite liking fun and politics but both things combined....don´t usually work all that much unless you are completely independent.
Yeah, the site is just you're run of the mill boring satiric political blog. Nation too polarized to be fun. It is becoming an annoying sight to see when searching for variations of discord daily. As it is the 3rd most often thing I see besides fandom content and discord app.

>That face reminds of something....gee I wonder what pony could have influenced Twilight. I don´t blame her, that´s the face I would put as well if I found about the rule 34 of my identity.
Poor TS.


Anon 02/07/2019 (Thu) 06:50:33 [Preview] No.3407 del
>>3375
>It´s almost like you follow the contrarian trend that Seth does.
Maybe it's just a sleepy mind, but do you meam Seth is a contrarian or that I'm purposefully doing the opposite of EqD?

> And you can tell the hours´ difference between these two posts.
Yeah, spending what free time I have on searching for a single random website from 2014 or so probably is not a thing to become super involved in.

>well, that strategy could have created a different trend/branch for the fanbase if those levels of popularity were kept for more years.
If it had attained a level of popularity it would've been interesting. I nearly considered joining as a regular commenter there, but I had my computer fail and just went outta habit. If I could even just remember a name of a regular there that'd make my search so much easier.

> I don´t know about it. I suppose these things happen because there are so many sites and copies to the successful blog that the intentions barely matter. It´s almost as if this board or /8pone/ or whatever, tries to copy /mlp/ and believes that it´s going to be successful because of just fixing the blueprint.
This site I wouldn't think, from what I remembered of it, have a chance of being anything other than a small circle jerk, I think it was wholly based on dissatisfaction with EQD and trying to be better, but I don't remember any gimmick or features that would've made it stand out.


Anon 02/07/2019 (Thu) 07:09:37 [Preview] No.3408 del
>>3405
Well, just found a connection from one of the other liinks I posted here.
>This site seems to be devoted to making fun of bad fanfiction with its own style of meta fanfiction comedy. There was a couple of questions I had with it that I'll discuss later.
https://web.archive.org/web/20141225230052/http://fimfandom.com/2013/08/02/mystery-science-theater-3000-meets-mlp-fanfiction
A website that is no longer active covered it. Wasn't look for it but glad to have found something else for /go/,
The person who founded it still seems to be active and I'd imagine there be something discussing the site's death.
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/191641/my-new-website-and-50-followers


Anon 02/07/2019 (Thu) 08:16:42 [Preview] No.3410 del
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

I found one of the sites! Not Discord Daily but the scondary one! Canterlot's finest! It's dead and offline but there is still archives of it.
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/255267/canterlots-finest-feature-and-the-character-ama
https://web.archive.org/web/20150514002003/http://www.canterlotsfinest.com/
It did seem to have it's own circle jerk for awhile if those 300 post in 2013 are anything to go by.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JAEDQwMtf4o [Embed]
what they should've played at super bowl


Anon 02/08/2019 (Fri) 23:09:08 [Preview] No.3417 del
>>3403
>Weird thing is I do not see anything that prohibits shipping in the rules of there website. only in the booru.
I don´t even...
well, I give up on finding some logic to their own terms.

>There is a few very rural parts of the USA that only have dial up still.
obviously depending on the zones, you will get different speeds depending on the accessibility to build those connections. It´s true that some places haven´t advanced at all and make you consider if you have travelled back in time.

>It could perhaps us some reshaping still but that's what I'm trying to avoid.
well, certainly not everything is going to be that relevant nor leave us indifferent all the time. I wonder if drama coming out of this will influence out of this. We´ll see.


>>3404
from lost to the river, you could have typed REEEEEEEEE and make it seem as if it wasn´t an incidental mistake.

>>3407
>do you meam Seth is a contrarian or that I'm purposefully doing the opposite of EqD?
I was mostly referring to the famous line: "Go to bed" and you seem to be a fan of doing completely the opposite. I was indirectly saying that.

>spending what free time I have on searching for a single random website from 2014 or so probably is not a thing to become super involved in.
especially if it gets frustrating. I don´t like using this line too much but: it could be worse. The BO has spent 8 hours for the codes and you have been searching a needle in a haystack. I wonder if I will lose a lot of time attempting to write something in the future. Protip: I will

>I nearly considered joining as a regular commenter there, but I had my computer fail and just went outta habit.
the computer does it again. A technical issue has defined a different timeline ironically.
>If I could even just remember a name of a regular there that'd make my search so much easier.
like the tags on Derpi
>This site I wouldn't think, from what I remembered of it, have a chance of being anything other than a small circle jerk
/endpone/´s definition as well.

>I think it was wholly based on dissatisfaction with EQD and trying to be better, but I don't remember any gimmick or features that would've made it stand out.
basically a protest in the form of a website. However, as we know with /8pone/, dissatisfaction simply doesn´t work in this fanbase and there is no other way to thrive but creating a different identity, branch, original content or ideas. It´s very difficult to demolish the base even though they could have had a chance in the early years.


Anon 02/08/2019 (Fri) 23:30:34 [Preview] No.3418 del
>>3406
>You can post observations but you don't have ta go through each and comment in the day
well, that depends on how I feel like replying to all of that. As for now, I am going with the stuff that seems easy to reply.

Shitposting cheaply requires no efforts, putting some kind of interest and post observations about the actual site...not so much. One of the biggest prizes these days is not only money but attention. So hey, I suppose talking about them a little bit further helps.

>It'd be a nice banner, though I wonder if credits be an issue?
i don´t know. I can´t find the original image despite having the name of that artist. Checking the profile, that image doesn´t appear without those letters. I wonder how someone edits that....and that´s where Photoshop programs come into play which sadly I have no experience at all.

>Maybe I'll become a commenter there just to show feedback.
do you know what would be funny? That one gets the influence of this site but no one notices that comes from this place. I am sure that a comment over there would bring a smile to them.

>Though he still seems to be connected to them. I've seen others before describe this account as a horse news reporter who vanished in 2014, but that maybe a partial misconception. So this account could've been overhyped. there could be some interesting stuff possibly in the old comments and tweets
so he´s basically showing activity related to the site but has stayed out of the map.

>the site is just you're run of the mill boring satiric political blog. Nation too polarized to be fun.
and get this, politics can be boring. Yeah I tend to be passionate to discuss it over here but those methods really bore me and in the long run, they either become propaganda or lose their identity in the middle of the satire. It adds nothing but memes and superficial content for certain subreddits, I guess?

Either way, I discuss it now but I find it really uninteresting. Moving on.

>It is becoming an annoying sight to see when searching for variations of discord daily. As it is the 3rd most often thing I see besides fandom content and discord app.
dammit. That sounds like an awful task to dig into and desperately trying to find it. Pages record or a marker of that site would have solved this instantly but who knew about this back then?


Anon 02/08/2019 (Fri) 23:59:40 [Preview] No.3419 del
>>3405
now, hold my beer, let´s check what you have brought with this post.

>This is the strangest part.
>Another active toy related news website, hosted on weebly of all things. I have so many questions.
eeeeerm. I wonder if Seth checks this place for the toys news and copy them over EQD because those articles share the same news as EQD. Either they shill the products from the same source or one looks at what the other does.

>Why weebly? If you didn't want to self host there are blogs that be better suited where ya still wouldn't have to pay up that have a better format and you wouldn't have to worry about image space.
that´s weird. I don´t know about the topic at all but it does seem more like a Tumblr blog style rather than an independent space. That and what you have said.

>Has a sister website run by the same guy that is a list of mlp toy prototype images that looks pretty interesting honestly.
checking the toys of the recent characters, there is absolutely nothing save the movie related ones. Not a single prototype of the students, changeling, dragons...nothing. Just The Mane 6 and the princesses and say thanks. I have said it several times on /mlp/ but I wonder if Hasbro is actually applying the toy commercial aspect or not these days. This archive vanishes my suspicions. Pretty well organized by the way.

Nice finds.

>this website that is for Role Playing. Apparently is connected to the MLPforums.
and that shows. The rules make it pretty friendly to everyone and leave out +13 content.

>Though the rules are restrictive, Not in an SJW way but appears to be more in the spirit of say, keeping things clean and drama free from a family friendly sort of way which I suppose is a understandable aim, at least with minors, but often leads to drama in itself with all the rules and the moderation seems to have had some controversy.
yeah they have a pretty chill philosophy and I have read the public apology. It is indeed a small community but those events, as you say, happened last year. Moderating is hard and I get that. Those problems come and go.
I certainly see some similarities on a few philosophical takes that this board and Canterlot Avenue share.

>This combined with the fact that it has a social media interface reminding me too much of facebook, means I'd probably just only be monitoring it from afar with a critical eye.
that´s the problem, the upvotes and interface design. I suppose this could be title as the CanterlotFacebook of MLP. The Avenue word makes sense, considering that it holds the value of being the main line of communication so I suppose that repeating the patterns of the most famous social media site means that they look after that purpose from the start(?).

Your critical eye is about right. In fact, that complaint would naturally come from any chan user who doesn´t like Reddit nor any upvoting system that holds an opinion above any other post of that thread. However, by judging its design (by the way, the menu looks like the Google Play Store or several random mobile apps despite browsing on it with the PC) and its morphology, it makes sense they set those rules. The most complicated thing would be finding a user base that doesn´t want to use Facebook but likes Facebook. Time will tell. At least, it´s there if Facebook goes down and disappoints like Tumblr did last December.


Anon 02/09/2019 (Sat) 00:40:19 [Preview] No.3420 del
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>>3405
>Who are this people?
I don´t know but surely they´ve got a pretty bad taste on the design contest. Call me a contrarian but besides voting the Smile Pinkie for having correlation to that adult animation, I don´t see how that design got the 3rd place. Fluttershy looks cute for an innocent T-Shirt for a little girl or a girl who likes "kawaii" material. And that´s a shame because if you check the gallery, there are more fitting stuff for adults than that. It could come from the lack of activity so they have some sort of justification (sort of)
>It's news section feels like EqD if it was buzzfeed.
ouch, that´s a low blow. And yeah, some headlines in their articles give you that clickbait sense we are all used to seeing in the mainstream media. Not many but they are not free of that practice. It doesn´t work when you are not all that active but I suppose they stand out when you have to look at something. The biggest example is this one: how an OC can save your life. I mean, the article delivers but the headline sort of induces cringe or emotional impact in the front line. This is more like a complaint directed to journalism in general despite criticizing a brony site. The strategy for clicks more than anything else.

My view is that the news part is....alright, it doesn´t stand out but it delivers despite my negative take on clickbait titles. The T-Shirt contest has potential if there were fans dedicated to vote proper designs for the contest. The sample is way too small to even have reliable observations about what people want. A quarter of Derpi´s userbase would serve for that purpose.

>http://ponyriffs.weebly.com/
>This site seems to be devoted to making fun of bad fanfiction with its own style of meta fanfiction comedy.
alright, it makes sense that this site pokes fun and mock all the cringy stuff but look at that, they died around 2014. Either they didn´t find the content all that interesting or they had to move on.
It sounds like /mlp/´s wet dream: judging by not trying at all so they cannot be criticized in the first place as we have discussed on /NMAiE/ this week. The only way to win is by no playing at all.

Also the poll left over there should make us think. I believe that the consumers(users of that site) liked the fic in the first place and they wanted related post to them for more attention. It´s like they mocked at Past Sins and Nyx fans liked the both the story and site´s view on it.

I am waiting for your comments to pick a few things but the forum is inactive as well and the site has died officially in 2017 (judging by the last comment).


Anon 02/09/2019 (Sat) 01:20:37 [Preview] No.3421 del
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I am not ending all your posts tonight but a thoughts has sparked in my mind after visiting the site I have mentioned.

>>3403
>It could perhaps us some reshaping still but that's what I'm trying to avoid.
Looking at this line again,it reshapes but not in terms of drama for me. This feels like we are running through the wastelands,visiting a cementery for the most part and looking for random survivors that an average fan wouldn't have cared nor would look at those places so easily.

This looks like something depressing and while we are keeping a harsh critical view(at times),I feel like life is nothing but dust. All these people have tried to redefine the fanabse and have failed to engage and attract a new wave of users. We are the invisibles. The word is there but the public doesn't appear at all.

It makes me think not only about the future of this franchise but about this site. What we are doing is that we follow the same steps for the same destiny. The only two factors that relief me are that this place wasn't supposed to earn an identity besides serving as a 8chan substitute and that all we have is us. We are nothing but dust,nobody is important because Earth won't stop rotating,so does the fandom.

It makes me feel like every attempt to feel important is gone and that if these fans have tried to find that luck,we are most likely going to repeat it. If we die,I suppose reaching a good post number before leaving would be a good ending in hindsight.

I don't know I am getting too philosophical for this thread but this has intensified a bit my feelings about the ones who are around me. Others won't care at all but the ones close to you are all that matter in the end. I suppose that's what one would call home after all...


Anon 02/09/2019 (Sat) 07:31:04 [Preview] No.3422 del
>>3421
>Looking at this line again,it reshapes but not in terms of drama for me. This feels like we are running through the wastelands,visiting a cementery for the most part and looking for random survivors that an average fan wouldn't have cared nor would look at those places so easily.
We are I suppose, sans Canterlot Avenue, The Roundstable, and that one merch site, the other stuff here is abbandned ghoost towns or simply archives of what was.

>All these people have tried to redefine the fanabse and have failed to engage and attract a new wave of users.
Well, I think Canterlot Avenue would perhaps have a chance if it wasn't for discord Not gonna fully rule it out yet , but yeah you are right. The best places here are tiny circle jerks that could gradually or quickly play out. The rest are either dead or near death. Canterlot's Finest and Las Pegasus Tribune (I tracked this one too back in the day, but this one I alrady had archive links too and remembered who was invovled), play out from simply there being little need for their existence with EqD in th prime of th fandom. I suppose there is little room besides the pillers, especially...

>It makes me think not only about the future of this franchise
now in a time of waning appeal. Those old bastions would most likely now absorb what is left and maybe in questionable trouble themselves post gen4. Though I am far from a doomsayer and some sites could adapt and I could see their being small circle jerks for pony art lasting quite awhile. Perhaps even gen5 and Equestria Girls will sustain the fandom for a time, but where does it leave us?

>but about this site.
I suppose one could say we have already over delivered on what are initial goal was, getting to 300 and maintaining a notable presence on the site. So what now? Do we just simply just keep it up till the fandom fades away? (though my bet is some part surviving in some form). We could just become a zombie site with one of us checking in ever so often, till we just get too distracted to come though for me I see so many drop off the face of the planet across the net that I'd probably announce if I felt that was a risk just to avoid a mystery

>What we are doing is that we follow the same steps for the same destiny
I'm not sure I'd be so dismissive yet. Though I highly doubt will have a huge impact on the fandom, We don't have too. This is just our little corner. Let's go with the flow and see where it goes before seeing it as a fruitless venture. I wouldn't ever take back the time I spent here already and I still have some plans heck, my plans for /go/ are to maintain it indefinitely, regardless if I have to move it or self host

...and for as many circle jerks that have died, I know a few that are quite old and still stable, heck, there is one that is over 20 years old and still alive. So I'm not going to rule out anything, the fandom, endchan, or /pone/.


Anon 02/09/2019 (Sat) 07:46:02 [Preview] No.3423 del
>>3421
>I don't know I am getting too philosophical for this thread
This is in line with the thread, as it is reflection on things and the fandom.

>but this has intensified a bit my feelings about the ones who are around me.
Wise and true. Even if I may even call you at this point friend/shitposting buddy/or whatever else you'd think of at this point, those are the ones who will truly have you back and to look out for.

though on the off chance I become rich if STHF I try to recuse you and BO if you wanted

>we are most likely going to repeat it. If we die,I suppose reaching a good post number before leaving would be a good ending in hindsight.
I aiming for at least to maintain /go/ for the far long term. and if endchan dies on nextchan, and if nextchan dies somewhere else, maybe even self host


Anon 02/09/2019 (Sat) 07:49:05 [Preview] No.3424 del
Welp, that's it for right now. I'll be doing full replies in a little while, night /endpone/!


Anon 02/09/2019 (Sat) 22:17:23 [Preview] No.3425 del
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>>3408
>A website that is no longer active covered it. Wasn't look for it but glad to have found something else for /go/
well, that explains the transition to the new website that lasted for the next year....and that was it.

>The person who founded it still seems to be active and I'd imagine there be something discussing the site's death.
yeah, his latest entries are about general phenomenons and completely unrelated to its trajectory. Maybe they didn´t feel like continuing anymore and didn´t bother to spend more time at picking fanfics and try to put jokes all the time. In short, I imply that the Riffing idea was just a phase and has remained as an average Fimfic user. I wonder if they had had a section for riffing fics on that site, they would have been continuing for a little bit longer.

>>3409
>Dead mlp game project websites!
http://sosdreams.com/
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/419261/secret-project-update-new-art-and-website-news-and-more

not entirely dead though. They had updated it with an entry on their profile last August. It´s indeed an extreme parody of MLP. However, the support is from barely anything to none.

Also, the world map isn´t safe of socialism.....and we thought we had exceeded ourselves in terms of politics.

>https://killermaregaming.webs.com/
>https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/368425/new-website-and-new-game-demo-plus-upcoming-demo
the game is completely dead in terms of interest. Despite being an active user (been connected today by the way),it seems that these two games came completely independent and straight out of that user. The interest for this one for sure is completely zero.

Basically, the first link did have an update last year while the 2nd link for those two games show how those production came from one single fan around 2014.

I have to mention the logo´s design, as if it came directly from the mid 2000s rather than 2014.


Anon 02/09/2019 (Sat) 22:44:17 [Preview] No.3426 del
>>3410
>I found one of the sites! Not Discord Daily but the scondary one! Canterlot's finest! It's dead and offline but there is still archives of it.
well, the alternative or the second plan arrived after all. Let´s check it.

>https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/255267/canterlots-finest-feature-and-the-character-ama
the user is active and it seems that this is the site that you had talked about rebelling against the style of EQD. Also, I think I have seen one of his entries before on Reddit about season 8.
>inb4 going to Reddit

Alright, the archives seem to range from 2013 until that entry of 2015.

>It did seem to have it's own circle jerk for awhile if those 300 post in 2013 are anything to go by.
until January 2014 they were pretty active (almost 400 entries in that year alone. Not EQD levels but for a spontaneous reaction, they must have built their own circle in that year). Basically, they disappeared almost completely right after season 4 ended.

If you check his first entries, you will see that he has written posts of that disenchantment about EQD.

>what they should've played at super bowl
[spoiler] out of all the American bands that are out there (and I respect a lot of them even though they are underground mostly), they had to pick Maroon 5.

GG well played organizers. You get a performance that was saved by the visuals. I see why you have picked that song (Sicko mode and the memes).

Also, I have read that fans have been disappointed about not doing that petition and they have had to edit that clip for what fans deserved. 1.2 million signatures behind that petition, weren´t they?

R.I.P Stephen.[/spoiler]


Anon 02/09/2019 (Sat) 23:38:39 [Preview] No.3427 del
>>3422
>sans Canterlot Avenue, The Roundstable, and that one merch site
which in contrast to the golden era, they have been active and peaked lately. So I suppose that this goes into phoenix cycles about the same thing:MLP.

>I think Canterlot Avenue would perhaps have a chance if it wasn't for discord
that app has made a huge impact and cluttered the communities of entertainment. I have to ask if imageboards are dying because of the imageboards themselves (save for video games and politics) or because of a strong competence in terms of communication.

>The best places here are tiny circle jerks that could gradually or quickly play out.
they could boom for a brief period but that relies more on the franchise than CA´s part despite having a pretty organized site.

>Canterlot's Finest and Las Pegasus Tribune play out from simply there being little need for their existence with EqD in th prime of th fandom.
I suppose that could be described as a punk movement that quickly fades after a year or two or as counterculture movement that relies completely on EQD´s attitude/activity. Despite having EQD as the main site for the biggest news site of this fanabse, those people have either given up or moved onto something else.

>I suppose there is little room besides the pillers, especially...
the pillars
how can you beat /mlp/, EQD, Derpi and Fimfiction? (not sure if DA counts as a pillar)
Sure, Bronibooru delivers a nice SFW gallery that serves as a backup but their confusing shipping rules could prevent them to thrive more than it would. So on that part, beating Derpi is ruled out.

As for /mlp/, /8pone/ has tried to create its own view and while 8chan has risen in popularity because of Gamergate or politics/conspiracies, the pony board has been going down in the list over time. That´s because they had a pessimistic view and their bitterness about not only the board but the show as well,has prevented them to get a different appeal.

Ironically enough, Ponychan has been silently somewhat active in their own circles without making noise and have kept themselves after all these years despite mocking at them for being dead.

No chance to beat /mlp/ so far.

FimFiction. Well, that speaks for itself. It´s an archive and only its original trunk could compete or coexist with it (Fanfiction). Not only it´s appealing for archiving the fics but also has a blog system like DA and some of the former users of those links show activity on that site.

I suppose that the only way to make a pillar is...well, by reaching the users to consume video game content and there are already sites for that. If they have not occupied a pillar is because of the lack of interest from the community.

If those main sites have survived is because of pure Darwinism. The first and the most competent one gets the prize to stand out while the others fade.Those sites are pretty competent at what they do and there is little room to find them noticeable flaws.


Anon 02/09/2019 (Sat) 23:48:28 [Preview] No.3428 del
>>3422
>Those old bastions would most likely now absorb what is left and maybe in questionable trouble themselves post gen4.
they have already absorbed those little branches mostly because there was no reason to continue. Just focusing on the little grain inside those pillars, keeping them active and get the job done. Do you find attractive reasons to leave them? I can hardly find arguments for that.

>I am far from a doomsayer and some sites could adapt and I could see their being small circle jerks for pony art lasting quite awhile. Perhaps even gen5 and Equestria Girls will sustain the fandom for a time, but where does it leave us?
that´s like playing dices whenever gen 5 occurs. It´s always nice to have some sort of backup if Derpi´s policies get out of hand and the sites get shut down all of a sudden (even though I have read somewhere that Derpi´s archive is pretty easy to mirror and carry it somewhere else if any emergency happens)

I suppose that´s where Canterlot Avenue and The Roundstable come to play. The merch site always has to report the news even if no one is watching them. They have to act as if nothing happened to their popularity, their purpose is delivering the information at the time and for archive purposes. If the first one fails, the latter will come sooner or later.


Anon 02/10/2019 (Sun) 00:19:50 [Preview] No.3429 del
>>3422
>I suppose one could say we have already over delivered on what are initial goal was, getting to 300 and maintaining a notable presence on the site.
I am going to be honest. I took that as a little game and said: hey why not? I wanted to post some of my favorite picture because I lacked the opportunity to do so and that happened: /endpone/ reached the first page. The objective was done. However:

>So what now?
don´t think that this question comes while we are replying but after 2018 New Year´s, I asked myself what we were doing over here. I continued it would feel a pretty dirty move if I had left it at there....and several things happened spontaneously.

>Do we just simply just keep it up till the fandom fades away? (though my bet is some part surviving in some form).
in theory, this is a branch of 8pone that was created temporarily. None of the original creators/owners of this board would expect this situation after coming back to 8chan. It means....that we have ironically created a different identity that shouldn´t be there. You are asking if this site will go past after the fandom fades out. By following the morphology of this site, this place is where all things come to an end. Doomposting about the state of this fandom would have fit a lot in theory. However, I suppose that the negativity is already taken from /mlp/ and we are assuming that destiny without that hateful tone of feeling disappointed. If /endpone/ wants an identity, I suppose it should see how this ride ends. Will we survive for that? Tough challenge honestly.

>We could just become a zombie site with one of us checking in ever so often, till we just get too distracted to come
accessing over here is too easy and requires seconds. Considering that we are more reliant now, it´s pretty difficult to make it go away. I guess having a zombie state would be a compliment for this site.

>though for me I see so many drop off the face of the planet across the net that I'd probably announce if I felt that was a risk just to avoid a mystery
that´s the biggest variable that could lead this to its original state. I have to mention that some fans keep coming back after all. I have seen former pupils leaving guitar classes and came back because they liked their time at it (irl and talking about what I have seen from experience) with a few years/months after they left.

That entirely depends on how you feel about it.

>I'm not sure I'd be so dismissive yet. Though I highly doubt will have a huge impact on the fandom, We don't have too. This is just our little corner.
I suppose that´s the only way to take it properly. If there is no one else, then only those who are around should feel comfortable in the circle where they feel they belong. Maybe it´s cold outside and those dead sites discourage a little bit but I am sure they had their fun while they lasted. Not only they die, but other are born out of nowhere. Not only endchan has become a little /8pone/ branch but poni.fun has recently started to run a different route.

The world won´t stop rotating and it seems that the fandom, as small it may seem in comparison to the golden era, never stops.

>Let's go with the flow and see where it goes before seeing it as a fruitless venture.
I think that you are right. That won´t stop me from being pessimistic (in a realistic way, I don´t like misery) but looking for the closest targets, it will keep us a little bit entertained.

>I wouldn't ever take back the time I spent here already and I still have some plans
what would have happened if we stayed on /mlp/ as background lurkers and never came into play? How different would the ride be?
I suppose we would have stayed as always did in the past and watch these seasons without doing much. I have some plans as well and I believe, those plans are what make the trees grow in the end.

Would I change my time on this site? Looking back at it, I would have been bored on /mlp/ because of its little activity. I suppose that´s what also encouraged me too. Nothing new to see over there, so let´s create it instead.


Anon 02/10/2019 (Sun) 00:27:26 [Preview] No.3430 del
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Not a formal reply but an emergency notice. If this conversation is to be believed (and operate is indeed claimable), it is a little concerning. I've seen enough chans randomly die to be weary of a sign like this. Do to things looking a little more stable for me, I will try to reclaim the nextchan bunker and be the mod there and set up and account here . Right now the next couple of days have some unexpected plans (family making an unexpected visit), but I will try in the next time in the next 2 to 4 days.
>>>/operate/10233
https://nextchan.org/pone/
here is link bo

I've seen enough chans go dark without warning, just taken offline to want to have a backup plan.


Anon 02/10/2019 (Sun) 00:44:02 [Preview] No.3431 del
>>3422
>and for as many circle jerks that have died, I know a few that are quite old and still stable, heck, there is one that is over 20 years old and still alive. So I'm not going to rule out anything, the fandom, endchan, or /pone/.
surprisingly enough, the internet has brought a 4th life that didn´t appear before in human history. Sure books served as archives but in the terms of social interaction, the revolution has been implemented in such a way that one cannot claim a thing to be dead. If those 90s sites still work, the fanbase can perfectly find a spot on the internet for whatever project it creates.

>>3423
That image is one of the first ones I have desired to post over here. I haven´t hit the fav button on Derpi until today for some stupid reason...I suppose I needed that warm reminder.
>as it is reflection on things and the fandom.
it came just before sleeping. I had a sudden thought that what I have watching here made me feel uneasy (not in the scary way but in a philosophical way) that I had to share those observations with a cold head. Sure, criticism may come in an effortless way at the time but after turning off the computer, one thinks what has seen to a personal level.

I see the things with a better mood today after watching the FimFiction profiles and proving that they are not dead but have left those projects out. However, one takes it as if something out there died.

>those are the ones who will truly have you back and to look out for.
actually, that´s like everything. One year of dedicated shitposts isn´t that easy to achieve. I don´t know what to call it.

>though on the off chance I become rich if STHF I try to recuse you and BO if you wanted
I fortunately, don´t have the biggest reason to leave unless we are talking in terms of sites, which seems to be concerning right now.

>aiming for at least to maintain /go/ for the far long term. and if endchan dies on nextchan, and if nextchan dies somewhere else, maybe even self host
well...as for the current situation that you have just replied >>3430,my only answer is: this is fine.jpg


Anon 02/10/2019 (Sun) 00:59:54 [Preview] No.3432 del
>>3430
>If this conversation is to be believed (and operate is indeed claimable), it is a little concerning.
endchan.org works for me. I have just tested it. What it hasn´t been been removed is the usual 500 Error that appears randomly.

>I've seen enough chans randomly die to be weary of a sign like this.
well, in that case, these places exist:
https://nextchan.org/pone/
https://poni.fun/poni/
Basically the two 8chan branches if the /end/ disappears.

I am one of those that stays until the death occurs completely. There have been countries without any government formed for several months or 100 days and there they are. Until the site doesn´t black out, I don´t if I should believe the scaremongering. It´s true that the Twitter account has stayed inactive since last December but the new owner should consider that there are a few boards that are worth to keep. 15 boards to be precise.

>Do to things looking a little more stable for me, I will try to reclaim the nextchan bunker and be the mod there and set up and account here.
Perfect, you would save a few problems for me. I am not keen on putting the hands of moderation because I am too extreme when it comes to certain rules and that cannot work for a long time.

>Right now the next couple of days have some unexpected plans (family making an unexpected visit), but I will try in the next time in the next 2 to 4 days.
take care Bridgefag and don´t worry if the worst case scenario happens, we have seen ourselves in other boards without having the intention, so it´s easy for me to find out, especially with those two alternatives announced before anything dramatic happens.

Also if the BO sees this before dying because of the /operate/ drama, thanks for editing the banner, the remaining element of Canterlot Daily.


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Now, I wouldn't freak out about /operate/ being claimable, it's not like this bears any significance over any of regular boards becoming likewise.
I'm kinda doubtful things would go this smoothly for over a month under cruise control (the server payment being monthly afaik notwithstanding). While the endchan's official twitter haven't received any updates this one did https://twitter.com/OdiliTime


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>>3430
>here is link bo
yep already seen that one my man


Anon 02/10/2019 (Sun) 05:46:39 [Preview] No.3440 del
>>3437
Good, though I am always a little cautious of unannounced changes and insanity from experience.

wow it looks like there is a lot of stuff going on, new pone related chan, etc. I get back to things soon, just gotta get a couple of family matters ad nextchan sorted out


Anon 02/27/2019 (Wed) 08:27:46 [Preview] No.3553 del
Golden Oaks minor progress report:

Research for Discord Daily is ongoing.

I followed a trail of drama that was rather boring yet somewhat interesting at the same time, but it went down a tumblr rabbit hole and has little to do with /go/ at this moment (social justice vs radical feminism, small YTer who surprisingly wasn't trans, bla bla ba)

I have this rather insane idea to try to comb through various different major figures social media to try to gauge their opinions and than go through hundreds of different websites and see if there is a divide between the media visible figures and the average fan, and to test my assumptions on how influential different parts of the fandom are and what is the the average anyway?

Likely no major postings of /go/ until after the second prototype fic. which should be ready in a week


Anon 02/28/2019 (Thu) 23:51:32 [Preview] No.3564 del
>>3553
>Research for Discord Daily is ongoing.
well, it seems that Spike cannot check that task from the long list yet.

>it went down a tumblr rabbit hole and has little to do with /go/ at this moment (social justice vs radical feminism, small YTer who surprisingly wasn't trans,
those rabbit holes are only worth to witness by themselves. Talking and gossiping about them is boring and contradictions happen at mach speed.

Dismissing it.

>I have this rather insane idea to try to comb through various different major figures social media to try to gauge their opinions
>than go through hundreds of different websites and see if there is a divide between the media visible figures
>the average fan, and to test my assumptions on how influential different parts of the fandom are and what is the the average anyway?
internet journalism and investigation at its finest.

If we weren´t crazy/autistic, we wouldn´t be here anyway...

>no major postings of /go/ until after the second prototype fic. which should be ready in a week
nice


Anon 03/09/2019 (Sat) 00:58:04 [Preview] No.3623 del
Alright. I'm in full monitor mode to the reactions to this trailer. Just wow... my mind was left reeling and I've seen it being posted in areas with fan presences big and small (which of course it would).

Current project for /go/ will be monitoring the fandom reaction to this.
Here is all places I'm keeping track of so far.
https://www.equestriadaily.com/2019/03/season-9-premiere-to-air-april-6th-on.html comments discussion of course
https://mlpforums.com/topic/183073-new-trailer-for-season-9/
http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1812
https://boards.plus4chan.org/co/t418814.html
https://8ch.net/pone/res/322857.html
https://www.ponychan.net/pony/res/36826866.html
https://derpibooru.org/pony/season-9-discussion-thread-warning-spoilers
Of course with places like /mlp/ it is being reacted to on several threads and there is still a few corners where I have seen smaller groups of the fandom that are active that I need to check. Not to mention the still active social media areas.


Anon 03/09/2019 (Sat) 23:07:09 [Preview] No.3638 del
>>3623
>Here is all places I'm keeping track of so far.
nice even though the roundstable doesn´t seem to have any reaction about it.

>Of course with places like /mlp/ it is being reacted to on several threads
that´s expected

>Not to mention the still active social media areas.
Reddit has had more replies than a few of these sites combined, not joking.


Anon 03/17/2019 (Sun) 04:41:46 [Preview] No.3715 del
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>>3638
>nice even though the roundstable doesn´t seem to have any reaction about it.
Now they have like 5 replies!

>Reddit has had more replies than a few of these sites combined, not joking.
Yep I saw. Though some of this maybe do to people avoiding spoilers the mlpforums had 800 users online at the time compared to reddits 200 I wonder how that compares to the pillars? I've always been a bit discounting for there.

Other notes:
There is a few small /pone/ and /semi-pone-related/ places I need to check on 8chan and considering what happened I probably should do it soon just in case
I found this place from an accidental misspelling of a search.
https://elbronymendivil.blogspot.com/
A very inactive yet young Equestria Daily alternative. Most recent post in september of last year and the oldest being in 2017. Random and intermittent posting that appears to go on hiatus for months from what I can tell.


Anon 03/17/2019 (Sun) 23:07:33 [Preview] No.3716 del
>>3715
>Now they have like 5 replies!
Add 6 more, they have doubled the activity in it.

>some of this maybe do to people avoiding spoilers the mlpforums had 800 users online at the time compared to reddits 200
well, MLP Forums is by excellence the social media for the EQD side of the fandom. You can start to worry a little bit if that shite doesn´t show any activity at all.

>I wonder how that compares to the pillars? I've always been a bit discounting for there.
they are reaching the 80k user mark, some of them are dead or multiple accounts but yeah, they are managing to get a consistent level of activity over time. They won´t beat the main pillars but it´s not something you can look down at so easily.

>A very inactive yet young Equestria Daily alternative. Most recent post in september of last year and the oldest being in 2017. Random and intermittent posting that appears to go on hiatus for months from what I can tell.
let´s see if there is more activity for this season. I should mention that the site combines Spanish articles with English ones and if you check its Twitter´s profile, you will check out that this site has been made by a Mexican. Basically, it´s an independent blog that I think compiles Latin videos that would come from equestrianet.org and American sources.

The most active era was around early 2018 and only had an active period in September.

>>3715
>that pic
correct me if I am wrong but I have seen posts in which they claimed that they have banned NZ users from using 4/8chan. I cannot confirm that but they seem to hint to that direction


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Whelp, was looking around at the fandom in the final hours of the hiatus. Found a lot of stuff relating to here that I'll have to bring up later. Even another corner of the fandom that I've never heard of! Also, looking through a recent mlp related post that went semi-viral there had a lot of comments that really seemed to go with what we've always said with the fandom over there.


Anon 04/12/2019 (Fri) 05:14:20 [Preview] No.3941 del
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Been going through the Ponychan circlejerk trying to figure out a chronological timeline of important events for /go/ archival. Man this banner of their's is way too descriptive for their own good. Frankly I wanna cover only essential details for archival purposes and try to keep petty non site effecting drama out of it... the lines maybe quite blurry on that, but I'll post more detail later.

I haven't given up on my search for Discord Daily.


Anon 04/12/2019 (Fri) 20:31:04 [Preview] No.3943 del
>>3890
well,folks. These are the posts that one should stop and appreciate them for a little bit inside your heads. Out of all the reactions that you could get, these are the most valuable because nobody in this fandom actually expected to see the end a few years ago and now, we are living in an era in which MLP is causing nostalgia before it ends.

It seems that it has earned some kind of respect over the years...and for very solid reasons.

Just stop and think about all those people whose lives were dedicated to the MLP fandom and now, they are looking back at it with eyes as if that was a precious past. From an explosion for memes and porn....to this...

What have we all done here?

>looking through a recent mlp related post that went semi-viral there had a lot of comments that really seemed to go with what we've always said with the fandom over there.
we have talked about so many things. I mean, we have posted like the holy bible and pretty long posts in these nearly 4k messages. It should be interesting to watch, at least as a personal reminder.

>>3941
>this banner of their's is way too descriptive for their own good
really?top kek. You cannot literally go full drama mode all the time. It´s impossible to do that, even /mlp/ has gotten sick of doomposting at certain periods. That must come from the site itself and its users. Otherwise, I cannot imagine how the show provides drama for those posts unless they nitpick every single thing that appears on the episodes.

>I wanna cover only essential details for archival purposes and try to keep petty non site effecting drama out of it.
yeah, basically the most common patterns in order to know how it works. The rest should be common stuff they deal with daily.

>I haven't given up on my search for Discord Daily.
the eternal duel still lasts.....


Golden Oaks Progress Report Anon 05/07/2019 (Tue) 03:26:59 [Preview] No.4051 del
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This is another progress report. Despite the relative inactivity of the thread that has actually been a fair bit going on that is /go/ related.

Ongoing:

There is two older fan games that I am getting ready to make entries for. One of which looks like the developer might be a tiny bit of a confusing rabbit hole to go down. I will see if I can get the games running in wine but regardless I should be eventually posting a basic entry on them (and it also will be a test to how an entry should work itself).

Currently been doing moderate research into Ponychan and its many dead spin offs. Even trying to establish a basic outline of events could be a very complicated task. It will test what is drama worth mentioning and what isn't for reasons that I'll explain later.

Discord Daily is still ongoing. I have one last trick before I call it quits.

Future:

Hoping to start studying discourse on the current episodes airing and seeing how it changes in a year. Though I've been a bit busy of late with certain other things.

I plan to take a look at the various "Brony Analysis" channels on Youtube and their opinions. See how it compares with the fandom as a whole and how big are they in the grand scheme of this fandom.

Plans to attempt to develop metrics to study different segments of the fandom and how to categorize them. (May never get too this fully, but if even I develop something just for parts of the fandom, it could still be useful).


Anon 05/07/2019 (Tue) 23:08:25 [Preview] No.4060 del
>>4051
>One of which looks like the developer might be a tiny bit of a confusing rabbit hole to go down.
inb4 drama is brought onto the table

>Currently been doing moderate research into Ponychan and its many dead spin offs
MLPChan shut down a few years ago, didn´t it? how many spinoffs exist around there about an imageboard that relies on its off topic board these days?

>trying to establish a basic outline of events could be a very complicated task.
well, there it spoils all their (in)activity

>I have one last trick before I call it quits.
no magic allowed for this time though.

>Hoping to start studying discourse on the current episodes airing and seeing how it changes in a year.
that requires effort and a lot of passion. Will it be only about season 9 or are you planning to do about season 8?

>I plan to take a look at the various "Brony Analysis" channels on Youtube and their opinions. See how it compares with the fandom as a whole and how big are they in the grand scheme of this fandom.
I will say for now that youtubers mostly live in their own bubble. The minor ones not so much but the reviewer community from the early days had their own place, as if they were different. I don´t know how they are doing nowadays, they most likely have fallen down to earth considering that it´s harder to thrive with FiM....or maybe not.Eh, who knows...

>Plans to attempt to develop metrics to study different segments of the fandom and how to categorize them.
>it could still be useful
between and the study, they catch my eyes the most out of all the plans you have mentioned.

Good luck with them.


Anon 05/10/2019 (Fri) 20:04:21 [Preview] No.4081 del
>>4060
>inb4 drama is brought onto the table
I don't know if he was involved with any drama, just a bit strange. You'll see what I mean.

>no magic allowed for this time though.
I will use the power of my old laptop's hopefully still functional hard drive to retrive my old search history

>that requires effort and a lot of passion. Will it be only about season 9 or are you planning to do about season 8?
Hopefully both.

>. I don´t know how they are doing nowadays, they most likely have fallen down to earth considering that it´s harder to thrive with FiM....or maybe not.Eh, who knows...
I do wonder of their influence, if much at all. I mean, occasionally I'v seen there drama spill over but other than I few who are involved with Equestria Daily I barely run into'em and hardly watch any of there content on a regular basis. To be honest, they maybe split into a few different groups. Another interesting study would be to see th attitude of those who used to be involved in this fandom but have sense had actual careers take off in the area. Froom my understanding there is more than a few bigger channels that were originally focused on fandom content.

>between and the study, they catch my eyes the most out of all the plans you have mentioned.
It'd be the one I'm interesting in as well. I'd take a lot of time but I'm hoping if I can get other things IRL I'd be able to make time to do some of it. There is so many different ways you could split it. Should it just be by websites? But what about generational? How big is the fandom that primarily hangs out on social media and should they be there own group? Would there be a difference between oldfags who were more or less involved from 2011 and 2012 vs reactivated fans who have come just for season 9? So many questions.


Anon 05/11/2019 (Sat) 07:40:58 [Preview] No.4085 del
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Alright. Here is what's been going on with Ponychan. I'm been trying to establish a basic timeline of important events. What this means is will be fully defined over time but I figured that at it's most basic would be things like ownership changes and the dates of the various splits and remergers and with a possibility of looking at trends and and an attempt to measure the sites relationships and attitudes within the fandom. That's what I'd be looking to archive but it has become apparent to me that even the basic task of a chronology of the site is filled with drama. I won't be able to avoid it if I want to make a basic list of who left and why of the owners... I'm not just talking about orange either, but take a look at the whirlwind year of 2017 alone.

https://archive.is/sOinO
jan 15
fen co admin of the site, leaves do to issues with Macil, Astra is promoted in his place.

https://archive.is/Ldz9v
march 12
Macil steps down as admin

https://archive.is/fVJOH
march 15
Fen is back as co-admin

https://archive.is/yda0Y
july 16
both Fen and Astra step down as co-admins, turning it over to Mikie and The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy

Look at these threads, this wasn't the most stable time. Through it's just concern and sometimes hate being thrown around. Hard to ascertain things beyond that, and I'd want to be fair to even the one who looks the most suspect to me. Drama isn't off limits of course but dealing with even basic events and site culture is rife with it. I remember catching wind of administrative changes occasionally from gossip elsewhere, but the site seems to only have stabilized recently under the leadership of Mikie. Even then the site has faced a lot of drama, and an evaluation of the administration would be impossible to avoid it. It has constantly has struggled with what it considers to be over the limits on edgy. A discord server which is populated far left users who took issue with right wing presence and was constantly starting drama and strangely involved the former admin of MLPchan of all things Even outside of them the site still struggles with users who are raising more legitimate complaints on acceptability for Ponychan standards This is the core of it, though you'd think that the fact there was an entire SFW chan (ponychan.us) made do to this things would be more settled though from what I remember there was users that the far left hated that were tolerated there. Other than that the admin has personal problems and a breakdown once that did cause some controversy. It technically is relevant to /go/ but it veers so much into the personal realm I don't wanna cover it. I have much sympathy for Mikie from what I've seen of him but I still have a few things that cause me to raise questions My core problem with all of it is that even with context a lot of this goes into a personal realm and he said she said situations. I will still try to make a timeline and evaluations on what the users thought of each admin (a great deal of users saw Macil was power hungry, a great deal of users thought Astra was not very attentive, etc) but I'll have to be careful and think hard of what should be there and what shouldn't. I mean, purely not touching the site's lore would only be censorship in an odd sort of way.

I'm not even getting into the petty drama involving some idiots and lolcow tier people.


Anon 05/11/2019 (Sat) 08:04:15 [Preview] No.4086 del
>>4085
And there are somethings that I don't know what to think of. I don't have context for this. But from the outside it seems very confusing.

https://www.ponychan.net/site/res/15482.html
What kind of rules are this? I don't understand. Maybe there is something I'm missing. Posting Dolores lewd is apperently banned even on the ef board that supposed to be a free for all. Some where saying it was because it offended Mikie but Mikie says others wanted that rule. I'm guessing it's Dolores because mature is allowed under tags. Who wanted this? Why would it be enforced? Is it just Dolores or I am just missing something that makes this more sane.

https://www.ponychan.net/site/res/15227.html
>These were rules the users told me to add because asking for things as a friend is a no go
What? Does this mean those rules are legitimate? The only context I can gather here from these two threads is that Mikie doesn't like to see Dolores in certain situations and others told him to make it in the site rules itself because he couldn't expect the users to do it out of kindness. IDK the full context though so it could be more sane than what my mind can think of right now. This is /go/ relevant because it deals the status of the site itself. If the site has insane arbitrary rules that would be worth noting. I don't want to jump the gun though in being accusatory and calling the admin insane yet till more info though.


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>>4086
Even here, though. This is tricky to discus. If I'm willing to post this here, than why not the stuff from the derpibooru mods earlier? Need to be consistent. I'm so divided on the "drama" rule that I put in place. I think arbitrary moderation should be fair game to mention but I wouldn't want it to turn to a hate fest. Than again, if its only the us and a possible couple of lurkers we'd probably be fine and I'm just being paranoid. Though we have had random users wander before and if this even half way takes off I could see some things being somewhat continuous with somethings if it were to get linked in certain places. If I make my goal of categorizing much of the fandom and sites big and small, I wanna be fair to everypony. Even the far lefties and /pol/acks in the fandom and controversial mods.


Anon 05/12/2019 (Sun) 16:54:47 [Preview] No.4096 del
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>>4081
>I will use the power of my old laptop's hopefully still functional hard drive to retrive my old search history
My little 90s laptop: Technology is Magic ladies and gentlemen.

>Hopefully both.
good luck on that.

>I do wonder of their influence, if much at all
their influences are a lottery, maybe some of them still live in the same bubble as if nothing has changed.

>I barely run into'em and hardly watch any of there content on a regular basis.
I watched a few around 2015-16. They brought good points that I wouldn´t imagine and I learned a few lessons from them but I doubt I would dedicate as much time to them as I did back in the day.

>they maybe split into a few different groups.
that sounds pretty realistic before revisiting them.

>Another interesting study would be to see th attitude of those who used to be involved in this fandom but have sense had actual careers take off in the area.
most analysts/musicians that relied on Youtube have left behind MLP in order to grow in a more serious way. If you get to see those youtubers, you will notice that they don´t talk about MLP nor show their old content that much. What I am describing is exactly the same practice as those Deviantart users who delete their account and the pony content is lost unless it is uploaded on Derpi. Or like this edit, someone managed to save the material before deleting it and a copy of it is saved but not from the author himself.

>Should it just be by websites? But what about generational? How big is the fandom that primarily hangs out on social media and should they be there own group? Would there be a difference between oldfags who were more or less involved from 2011 and 2012 vs reactivated fans who have come just for season 9? So many questions.
indeed. So many that it could be thesis material to report in an organized way.


Anon 05/12/2019 (Sun) 20:33:55 [Preview] No.4097 del
>>4085
>i´m been trying to establish a basic timeline of important events. What this means is will be fully defined over time but I figured that at it's most basic would be things like ownership changes and the dates of the various splits and remergers and with a possibility of looking at trends and and an attempt to measure the sites relationships and attitudes within the fandom.

fair enough. Let´s see if there is anything formal and passionate of that site...

>but it has become apparent to me that even the basic task of a chronology of the site is filled with drama
oh....that....
oh boy, here we go again. As if /mlp/ drama was enough for this fandom...

>I won't be able to avoid it if I want to make a basic list of who left and why of the owners
>take a look at the whirlwind year of 2017 alone.
it sounds like they have had inner problems that would come from their own site from those posts alone. /mlp/ was joking and posting memes of "Ponychan is dead lolz" but it seems that they have had enough activity for driving those mods to such decisions.

>Through it's just concern and sometimes hate being thrown around. Hard to ascertain things beyond that, and I'd want to be fair to even the one who looks the most suspect to me.
looking at the timeline and the OPs of those threads, it´s a whole mess for such a little time. Even the former co admin sounds tired as hell when he steps down for the 2nd time. Getting into the reasons behind this is...

>an evaluation of the administration would be impossible to avoid it. It has constantly has struggled with what it considers to be over the limits on edgy
basically this.

>the site seems to only have stabilized recently under the leadership of Mikie. Even then the site has faced a lot of drama
fingers crossed that he resists even though those mental problems affected to the dynamic for the site itself.

>Even outside of them the site still struggles with users who are raising more legitimate complaints on acceptability
so by having politics put aside, the site is still having problems with its own terms.

>you'd think that the fact there was an entire SFW chan (ponychan.us) made do to this things would be more settled
so does that mean that having a spot for NSFW can lead to less drama because of its consumption? I don´t know, everything sounds filled with too many political motifs behind its drama. I am quoting this sentence from you because that could serve for a meta topic towards the policy of that.

>all of it is that even with context a lot of this goes into a personal realm and he said she said situations.
what´s worse is that I am reading these lines and more or less it would happen the same to me if I moderated Nextchan and reunited a few users over there.

>purely not touching the site's lore would only be censorship in an odd sort of way.
it depends either if you want to use the explicit report of it or if you want to make it more private for those who are involved.

>I'm not even getting into the petty drama involving some idiots and lolcow tier people.
We already have 8chan for that (one of the most active boards over there by the way).


Anon 05/12/2019 (Sun) 21:22:41 [Preview] No.4098 del
>>4086
>from the outside it seems very confusing.
let´s check them

<Staff will only remove content that is illegal, improperly tagged or just plain spam, with everything else being free game.
what the hell?

>What kind of rules are this? I don't understand. Maybe there is something I'm missing.
I mean, there were abuse pics used on /mlp/ and her boop images that were spammed especially in 2017/18 (this year has calmed down a lot). Do some users spam those pictures over there? I mean, they are annoying for sure but...
>Posting Dolores lewd is apperently banned even on the ef board that supposed to be a free for all.
>Some where saying it was because it offended Mikie but Mikie says others wanted that rule.
>Who wanted this? Why would it be enforced?
what difference does she make above the rest? No seriously, I am surfing on her top rated NSFW stuff and it makes literally ZERO difference from what you would expect about any other character. Is it because of a ship? Is it because of grotesque stuff (her abuse pics is the only reason I can think of)? A popular fetish that triggers them that involves her?
The usual complaints that I have seen on Derpi threads would be about certain fetishes that one doesn´t get or simply doesn´t like because of X reasons. However, a fetish doesn´t mean is just one character and for NSFW, little to nothing matters except changing "the protagonists" for those situations (unless you draw a character from another franchise that you don´t care and you simply want NSFW of MLP instead of...I don´t know Zootopia for example, which would be understandable)
>the only context I can gather here from these two threads is that Mikie doesn't like to see Dolores in certain situations and others told him to make it in the site rules itself because he couldn't expect the users to do it out of kindness.
it seems a fairly reasonable theory, using the rules to your taste (which any person in the power would use that path easily).
>This is /go/ relevant because it deals the status of the site itself.
after this post, consider me banned

>>4088
>This is tricky to discus.
life is risky as hell. Sometimes we have to jump into the void and get ready to improvise for the worst.
>If I'm willing to post this here, than why not the stuff from the derpibooru mods earlier?
feel free to do it. Not only you would keep the consistency but you would denounce topics that aren´t allowed over there.
>I think arbitrary moderation should be fair game to mention but I wouldn't want it to turn to a hate fest.
depends entirely on the way that you present it. If you post the "MODS ARE FAGS!" a la 4chan route, then you will obtain the same results as /mlp/:nullifying the actual reasons for that negative reaction/criticism.

>if its only the us and a possible couple of lurkers we'd probably be fine and I'm just being paranoid
well, the worst case is that everything you say can and will be thrown against you. If anything, you will have to rely on your discussion skills whenever you get into the drama and draw clearly your intentions at that moment. I was paranoid about the elites as well, now I don´t care that much about them. Just have enough confidence for your arguments.

>we have had random users wander before and if this even half way takes off I could see some things being somewhat continuous with somethings if it were to get linked in certain places
if that happens, we should write more greens before they arrive. So drama isn´t the only reason to stay here for them. If they see us, it´d better have something entertaining in the meantime.I risked myself exposing my personal thoughts here but that helped to advance and take the next steps.
Besides: "Freedom must be accepted first, then planned and finally enjoyed" said by Pablo Picasso. So it´s up to the use of your own freedom what you want to make. Whatever happens next, we´ll be fine.
Also if everything goes wrong by noticing this site, it means that we will have made it relevant enough to say that it was alive for a period by two (or three) fags like us.


My Little Bullet Hell Anon 05/27/2019 (Mon) 07:02:44 [Preview] No.4163 del
...or My Little Pony vs Starcraft 2 or Ponytouhou or Equestria Corrupted. the developer, huod umop apisdn, jumped around with names a lot.

This is a game that was from the early days of the fandom. It's development predated season 2. The game received a moderate amount of attention at the time, with a couple articles on Equestria Gaming and a few youtube videos playing it in its various versions. 1.6 was the last update and received a very positive reception at Equestria Gaming, scoring a 9/10. The developer's last post was on February 11 2013, remarking on Hasbro's CoD on the Mane6 development team's game Fighting is Magic. Both his blog and his Youtube channel appear to be abandoned with links that I've found to any active online presence. 1.6 was deleted from Mediafire's servers at a unknown date, most likely of a routine automated purge of old files that didn't show activity and not part of any paid subscription plans. All 5 other versions are as of the writing of this post available for download. I have downloaded all remaining available versions and will post them if requested.

Status: Abandoned

https://archive.fo/2vtno Equestria Gaming's first post on it.
https://archive.fo/AbmNW Equestria Gaming's review.
https://archive.fo/wS8u8
1.6 release, with noted plans to release a version that was able to switch between windowed and fullscreeen which apparently never materialized.
https://archive.fo/AvvNx
The creator's last post.
https://archive.fo/Fqrkv
To get a sense of how old this was, here is the creator reacting to the primer of season 2 of mlp on the same day it aired.
https://archive.fo/Gl2sO
The blog, an incomplete archive link.
https://bullethellponies.blogspot.com/
The blog, the real link.
https://www.youtube.com/user/omgalreadyinuse/
The creator's yt channel.


Anon 05/27/2019 (Mon) 08:00:33 [Preview] No.4164 del
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>>4163
Welp, do to some IRL stuff this is my only entry for today. It is basic entry. There is still probably a couple of other facts that I could note but this is just me getting a feel for what entries will be like. Note, I haven't even tried to get the game running yet and it is not a priority at the moment. Adding entries wanton like this could be a bit messy but I think I see how I'll organize it more uniformly by the next thread with a more insane idea possibly in the cards for later This is one of the games I talked about in >>4051 and was the easiest to make a partial entry for since I already finished most of it and only had to get a few archive links. It's kind of haunting because I have ran into the project several times over the years and never regarded it much.

I am also considering a status system.
Active Ongoing, normal activity.
Semi-active Updates slowly/randomly but not rarely.
Inactive Updates rarely and randomly.
Abandoned Has not updated in a space exceeding a year (maybe 2 years would be better) with other online activity having little to no mention of the project, and or has disappeared online completely. Also possibly confirmation from the creator his/herself.

Other possible tags that I'm less sure on.
Hiatus For periodical fanworks, this could be used in a few slightly different ways, but I see it where a creator has put it on hold for a various amounts of time, and as long as the give updates and do not announce otherwise it staying in that state.
Canceled for works that are explicitly stop there works and making abandoned only for works that are, well, abandoned without explanation.
Completed
Works that are fully completed and finished in the creator's eyes.

>>4098
I've been giving it some thought and I think that for now I will be a bit more liberal in my remarks and notes for now. After all I'm still trying to get my baring and if I'm constantly worrying about "does this fit /go/?" it would amount to self-constraining myself and prevent ideas from happening. Besides, what I discus and what I present fully in the formal entries can be different and separate.

So basically what you say here.
>life is risky as hell. Sometimes we have to jump into the void and get ready to improvise for the worst.

>it seems a fairly reasonable theory, using the rules to your taste (which any person in the power would use that path easily).
>what difference does she make above the rest? No seriously, I am surfing on her top rated NSFW stuff and it makes literally ZERO difference from what you would expect about any other character. Is it because of a ship? Is it because of grotesque stuff
The context from what I can gather is that he has a strong attachment to Dolores and didn't like seeing her in certain situations so he'd delete pictures he didn't like of her at his own whim and everybody else wanted him to make it a formal rule rather than an unwritten thing he just did arbitrarily. It just seems, tbh, stupid, but also a little weird. I mean I think to myself: what if I was there and liked to avatarfag/post previously allowed pictures of Dolores? Would he have barred me from the practice? Think of how arbitrary it is, I can do that with any other character but Dolores . I would probably leave but note my displeasure strongly... but than again, not my circle jerk and I'm only thinking of hypotheticals, so why should I care?


Anon 05/29/2019 (Wed) 02:19:53 [Preview] No.4171 del
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>>4165
>Nice way of tagging the gaming projects.
Thanks. I'm not sure 100% how much the tags will differ from category to category or the will I have it fully uniform will maybe one or two specialty ones for certain things. For example, a one off ponyshort that has a sudden sequel years later may not fit wouldn't be called abandoned , because it never had the guarantee that another would be made. completed wouldn't apply either for the same reason, a one off ponyshort would be that and if it got randomly updated it will be the same questionable state where none of the tags applied well. There probably needs to be a separate tags for certain categories and this taging system that I have spelled out here would need works mainly for projects and periodical work and series (fansites, games, and abridged series) but there are other things I need to consider for certain works.


My Little Portal Anon 06/01/2019 (Sat) 06:41:08 [Preview] No.4189 del
My Little Portal is a animated web series created by Christian David Cerda. It is a fusion world of the Valve's Portal and My Little Pony Friendship is Magic, using the setting of former with the characters of the latter. The series premiered on July 6 2012 after being tensed in trailers and previews for most of the winter and spring of that year. It received a significant amount of attention at the time, with Equestria Daily covering its releases and it sometimes being mentioned as an example when some internet media discussion of the rising fandom at the time. Though it was still secondary to larger series, like Friendship is Witchcraft and Pony.mov. The series is noted for its somewhat strange, perhaps overly slow animation style, arising from its use of the software Anime Studio (now know as Moho) over the predominate Adobe Flash of the time or the mix of Flash and Toon Boom of today. Episode 9 is the most recent episode that has been released at the time of writing this post May 14 2017. With a preview of Episode 10 uploaded Jun 8 2017, with only a follow up tenser trailer for various works of the creator and a channel update video mentioning continuing plans of production of the series being uploaded the year after in 2018, with a total of 7 episodes planned. The creator mentioned on a Twitter post on 17 Feb 2019 that he plans to wrap up the series with 3 more episodes so the series will end the same year as Friendship is Magic itself.

Inactive

PINKIEPOOL
Pinkiepool, usually spelled with all caps, is a secondary series made originally with the intent to be supplementary content that was easy to produce in between releases of My Little Portal. Only one episode has been released so far on July 14 2017. It was mentioned in the creator's last update video in 2018 that he still intended to finish season 1 of the series and if it did well planed to make a season 2, though its current status is unknown with the recent changes to of his plans for My Little Portal.

https://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/07/animation-my-little-portal-episode-1.html
EqD's article on the first episode.
https://kotaku.com/unlikely-fan-fiction-crossover-presents-my-little-port-5938272
An example of some of the attention the series received at the time in the non ponysphere (note, this is a prototype entry. I remember it being mentioned elsewhere as well but this was the only article that came up. If my memories prove to be wrong then It will be reflected in the revised proper version of this entry.)
https://twitter.com/CDCanimation/status/1097404427936313344
The creators recent Twitter update.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SO-7FCYuSWc [Embed]
His most recent channel update.
https://www.youtube.com/user/ChristiansCartoons
His YT channel.
https://www.deviantart.com/christiancerda
The creator's devianart page.


Anon 06/01/2019 (Sat) 06:56:09 [Preview] No.4190 del
>>4189
I stress this is only a prototype entry and haven't searched to my liking on this. It's just me testing of format. The sections in Bold is an idea for subentries within larger entries. Specifically of minor works that are related to the main work and at least deserve a footnote. This could be more useful though if I adopt a format of covering works by there creators (at least if a creator has contributed a lot to the fandom in various different forms). For example, most of FimFlamFilosophy's entry would be devoted to MAS and RDP, but there would be footnotes on his secondary pony series and his earlier obscure fanfics, just mentioning their existence.


Anon 06/01/2019 (Sat) 06:57:51 [Preview] No.4191 del
>>4189
I forgot to put, Status: Inactive Oh well, its far from the final product anyway.


Anon 06/09/2019 (Sun) 05:10:24 [Preview] No.4227 del
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Was doing /go/ research when I saw this suggested at the bottom of youtube videos.

Season 28...



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