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Please debunk this holocaust debunker Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 15:06:56 Id: 841ae6 [Preview] No. 26921
https://imgur.com/gallery/725A7

This guy avoided some topics but can someone have any rebuttal against the claims made here? Pic unrelated.


Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 15:33:59 [Preview] No. 26922 del
It doesn't matter. Look. There is this notion that if you keep bringing this up it will change peoples beliefs. I have not thought the holocaust happened singe like 4 years. And I do not know why you think there are people to claim it happened. There are they are called kikes. Maybe someone wants to debunk this. However that would imply that it happened. If it did happen then that is essentially what they are preparing for now. So either way there will be an agenda blocking the truth of how many jews died. Therefore it does not matter compared to todays political climate.


Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 15:38:55 Id: aa618c [Preview] No. 26923 del
>>26922
>So either way there will be an agenda blocking the truth of how many jews died.

This is pretty much the reason why I don't fully believe in the Holocaust.They're always cockblocking the investigation of the burial sites. They're always using the Communist Party's skewed numbers.

My current stance is much like Sam Hyde's, if it happened, the number is probably much lower, from 3 gorillion to 300,000. After the shit I've seen modern furnaces are capable of 6 gorillion sounds retarded.


Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 16:09:26 Id: 841ae6 [Preview] No. 26924 del
>>26922
>>26923
If any of you guys don't want to objectively debunk the claims and the various images that is in that imgur gallery concerning the claims that guy makes which to me is actually fairly convincing argumentation although with occasionally with some citations missing to some claims he deems to be facts, you don't have to, but please don't try to dismiss this, it's actually a viral gallery on imgur and probably many others had seen it and believe in everything in it without seeing any actual argumentation outside of the crooked narrated presented in the gallery. If someone could show which images are Jewish/Communist propaganda and which images are not, that would be helpful for me at least. I know the 6 million number is being pushed over and over again prior to WWII so I still don't believe in the Holohoax but I don't think some arguments can be used anymore unless if there actually is an even deeper hidden truth that isn't being exposed and is occulted and never to be refuted by the guy behind that imgur gallery. I really want to believe that at least 300,000 people (and a fraction of that number being Jews) were gassed then cremated not because of Typhus related problems at a rate of four people per hour via German ingenuity, that would be actually great news for me that the Germans could with their wisdom can actually pull that off. I really wish it was real you know, I really wish that many Jews died in all those labor camps. I don't even know if even a million were cremated with such efficiency. I don't think that this question should be inconclusive and I really don't like the political implications that the Jews use against us in pushing that the Holohoax was real, but I'm a true seeker of objective truth, so please, if there's anyone that give a fuck, please help.


Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 16:18:29 [Preview] No. 26925 del
Here is my problem with the shoa. You look at france they have a monument the size of a chair. It is a pyramid. And it says something along the lines of "In memory of The 50000 Freemasons that died in the holocaust" Fine. You look At isreal. They have multi-pal memorials including another pyramid at the supreme court. You look at the world trade center. Merchant central. Yet again a questionable tragedy is used to erect a globalist monument. So my problem is not how many jews and people where killed. But rather how this is used by both sides to erect a system that holocaust is perpetual.

To build a monument is almost an act of taunting the public. These arches to baal where supposed to be 3d printed and put up in every city. That is the kind of shit I am talking about. If people want to know what is going on they have to see what is being done. Isreal is the result. A monument to this controlled event. I think the truth is that the kikes thinned the heard for a luxury monument. And for a memorial basket to live in.


Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 16:44:23 Id: 841ae6 [Preview] No. 26926 del
>>26925
I've heard billions of arguments like that from you and others that gradually derail a thread into speculations upon speculations like gnostics do. Go back to >>>/horror/ or your own containment thread. Please stay on topic. Also, not all monuments and memorials are controlled events, but that's a different topic to the point of the OP. Stop arguing around the argument and actually refute the sources that's made in the Imgur gallery or just don't post at all. By the way, the only real Holocaust is actual fire sacrifices to a deity by the strictest, technical definition. Go make your own damn thread about death cults, don't do it here and please respect the actual point of this thread, not whatever you come up with or whatever you falsely redefine as what you think is the topic of this thread.


Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 17:06:42 [Preview] No. 26928 del
>>26926
Its actually simpler than that. I think its funny you saged your own thread. You see jews are satanic. THey used freemasonry to promulgate the idea of a satanic purge. There was a lot of commotion with the war. These people used chaos to establish satanic Talmudic order. If you see someone ringing a bell for salvation army. They fuck kids. If you see a kike rubbing their hands; they fuck kids. If you see someone twirling around in Egyptian headdresses: they fuck kids. So obviously anything this race and group of duped satanists will want to play like the victim. There is no going back to horror this is the horror. The horror oy the horror. This is the reality biff. I can expand on this if you like over there. But this is simple. The holocaust is not relevant because it is part of the Judaeo-masonic fake news and history.And no one believes the devil people died. And if they did they deserved it for being masonic kikes. it does not matter. They kid fuckers will posture to try and fuck your children. These petty skirmishes are not really important. The people claiming the holocoust happened are satanists. Knowingly or not.


Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 17:11:17 Id: f6fe12 [Preview] No. 26929 del
>>26928
This is why nobody likes you masonniggers, you derail threads with the occult.


Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 17:16:56 Id: 841ae6 [Preview] No. 26930 del
>>26928
I'm just sick of your shit as well as the general end/pol/ mindset here making huge generalizations and can't objectively argue about many things. There's so much BS in your logic here that I'm actually regretting making this thread.

The arguments that I've seen and used here also had been "debunked" in that Imgur gallery, many of the information in it is actually undeniable like the reality that Nazi Germany had Mohammedans within their army and other stuff. Here's a section of the bottom of that gallery:

How to become a holocaust denier in 10 easy steps

Step 1) Arrive at a preconceived notion (the holocaust, as it is defined in terms of death toll, intent, and methods including homicidal gas chambers, never happened) based on personal beliefs (the world is run by Jews) and then proceed to cherry-pick anything that supports your conclusion while ignoring everything that doesn't.

Step 2) Proceed to dismiss all testimonial evidence historians rely on with a casual hand-wave (or apply the 'poisoning the well' fallacy to point some contradictions as proof of lying), or only go so far as saying if it's a victim, he is a paid shill, and if it's a perpetrator, he was tortured, or accuse either party of insanity.

Step 3) Proceed to dismiss all documentary evidence as forgery, without bothering to specify who forged it and when and how, or concoct an innocuous explanation ignoring other documents and testimonies that give context and what we call a convergence of evidence.

Step 4) Proceed to dismiss all photographic evidence in the same manner as 3) or blame it (if the corpses are from Western Europe) on typhus or (if the corpses are from Eastern Europe) the Soviets.

Step 5) Proceed to keep emphasizing and exaggerating allied war crimes as much as possible to shift the debate onto a more level playing field, accompanied by Hitler's 'peace offers'. And while you're at it, attribute false quotes to famous people along with it and do not provide source while doing so.

Step 6) Proceed to show every piece of evidence you have where someone was exposed as a fraudster who wanted to make a quick buck off the holocaust, even if 10 out of 10 people exposed this way were novelists and irrelevant to historians, or point out errors in journalism (newspapers) to attack historians.

Step 7) Rely on the flawed and selective arguments of the few scientists on your side to dismiss the empirical knowledge of all other scientists worldwide. Also, use pen names to feign revisionist numbers.

Step 8) Keep changing the subject to bring forth one allegation after another allegation against Jews when you seem to be losing ground on one particular technical aspect of the holocaust you are debating an opponent on. Such as drawing attention to the modern Israeli state today, as well as the current Middle Eastern conflict, or other events like 9/11 or any Jew who has doubted the holocaust or criticized Zionism.

Step 9) Relating to step 8), keep in mind why you're really here: not to debate the feasibility of the holocaust with someone in the know, but rather to recruit unsuspecting laymen lacking the knowledge to debate you, to your cause. E.g. throw the Rudolf report in the face of an average youtuber to silence him.

Step 10) Always keep whining to your opponent about holocaust denial laws in some countries and make sure to evoke George Orwell's 1984 whenever possible to paint yourself as a victim of thought crimes. And the moment he calls you names, point out his ad hominem as proof of you having won the debate.

Congratulations, you are now a holocaust denier!


Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 17:27:03 [Preview] No. 26932 del
>>26929
IT has little to do with the occult. This is basic politics. Setup a fake event and reap the benefits. What is isreal without the Holocaust? You are derailing and trying to make me feel as if I did something wrong in participating in why I do not believe this fake history. I reached into unrelated subjects to paint a more defined picture of what is going on.
>>26930
Once again. It does not matter what the most corrupt consortium of media moguls insist happened. It is fake history.

People get mad when I point out how they claimed thousands of Freemasons died. That is the heat signal here. Ok there is not a clear number of the amount of masons that died in the Holocaust. That is the weakest link in this kike clasp on the narrative.


Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 17:40:28 Id: aa618c [Preview] No. 26933 del
>>26932
It's not the fact that we hate the fact that you bring up Freemasons you retarded nigger. It's the fact that you always go on long diatribes about satanic rituals and esoteric symbology.

ALWAYS

Honestly the mod should start banning your ass again. Whenever discussion gets going you barge in and fucking wreck everything. You almost make me miss the retarded oathbreaker guy.


Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 17:43:25 Id: f0cdca [Preview] No. 26935 del
>>26930
hahahah look at this kike and laugh.


Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 18:00:42 Id: 841ae6 [Preview] No. 26936 del
>>26932
You are intellectually dishonest and a pathological liar. You victimize yourself and derail MY THREAD yet insist that >>26929 is the one "derailing"? I sure seen that coming, I said what was going to happen and you did it. You've argued around the argument, you didn't respect the actual point of this thread and you've came up with whatever you falsely redefined as what you think is the topic of this thread. I can't call you by any means a Christian, a believer of Jesus Christ, based on what you do here.

The guy who made that Imgur gallery is someone that lurked in /pol/ for awhile. If you look up that link on a search engine, there's archived /pol/ threads where people tried to refute the contents yet no significant refutation came up. Really, I'm actually doubting many things that I've used to believe, he actually corrects many errors in pictures shared among /pol/. Namecalling isn't helpful here, making unjustified claims is also pathetic. Why is it wrong for me to actually believe that it actually happened? That would be GREAT, I would BOAST that the Nazis did something right, I would have INCREDIBLE PRIDE in stating that, fuck all the political implications, I know that real /pol/ people truly WANT TO BELIEVE that it is real, but that won't take my hatred for the Jews away, and the verdict is still out at least to me.

By the way, the Transfer Agreement is what had gotten the Ashkenazi Jews to leave for Palestine, all expenses paid, one way trip, with the help of Hitler and the British Zionists, the Holocaust scare is just bonus fear tactics.

>>26935
I'd like to see an objective rebuttal to any of the claims made in the Imgur gallery I've linked to, so far, no genuine attempts were made in this thread, not even by me, only low effort regurgitation thinking that it's like any other "fake news" thing. If nobody truly gives a fuck, I'm wasting my time here. I'll be back later.


Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 18:09:57 Id: aa618c [Preview] No. 26937 del
>>26936
If I have spare time I'll do some digging with you later if you're still around.


Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 18:13:49 [Preview] No. 26938 del
>>26933
I thought the fact they have a monument to the Holocaust added a new insight into the deception. After that I got pissed that the kike-lover op was basically calling that speculation a shoa in itself.


Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 18:39:38 [Preview] No. 26939 del
>>26936
Yea this makes sense. Really wa not trying to disrupt anything but this explains why you want to know the truth. My point is that the truth is irrelevant when there is a monopoly on information about this event. I think there are blind spots here. It would be good to see the best of both arguments. And what you appear to be angry at is the fact that there has been no one addressing this. I was confused. My mistake op.


Anonymous 12/27/2016 (Tue) 22:22:18 Id: dbbbd7 [Preview] No. 26950 del
>>26921

Guaranteed that the author of that Imgur blog is a U.K. or U.S. Govt. intelligence operative in training.

He just rehashes debunked 70 year old Holocaust propaganda.


Anonymous 12/28/2016 (Wed) 04:59:43 Id: 841ae6 [Preview] No. 26962 del
>>26950
Even if that were true, you're giving credibility in their work to be somewhat competent even as a rehash.

I've listened to Fred Leuchter's testimony and it seems like the guy behind that album rejected everything about what he said and only read his report. I think he doesn't believe that MOSSAD prevented him from going to court else he would had been imprisoned for the rest of his life. That being said, the "government operative in training" actually does sprinkle some truth that some /pol/ people (like me) are actually oblivious to, like how the Red Cross had done damage control as to the numbers that most people on /pol/ cite as the actual numbers that the Red Cross had counted. There's many holocaust apologists while the few holohoax "apologists" are not in the forefront on these matters anymore. It's kinda sad, really.


Anonymous 12/28/2016 (Wed) 07:01:21 Id: 841ae6 [Preview] No. 26967 del
Also, I should say that the gallery talks about stuff irrelevant to the Holohoax which I know is obvious damage control. Don't waste your time debunking the things periphery to the Holohoax that guy supposedly debunks which he doesn't by ignoring what the Rothschilds had done to the Bank of England then try to make their public businesses appear to be obscure and insignificant in his narrative.



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