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Tech Thread Bernd 06/27/2017 (Tue) 17:57:50 [Preview] No. 8430
Is it possible to disable GPS in phones?
I mean actually disable it like disassemble the phone and disconnect it on the circuit board and not just in the options menu which will disable it for you and apps but not for those who want to know your location (like Google or such).

Bernd 06/27/2017 (Tue) 19:36:57 [Preview] No. 8441 del
Yeah, just clip the chip off. Which phone is it?

Bernd 06/27/2017 (Tue) 20:01:21 [Preview] No. 8445 del
Any. It's mainly hypothetical. One day it could be useful.

Bernd 06/28/2017 (Wed) 03:55:56 [Preview] No. 8451 del
>his phone has GPS

Bernd 06/28/2017 (Wed) 03:57:56 [Preview] No. 8452 del
otherwise >>8441 has the right idea, solution for this should be done on hardware level (turn it non-functional) because it's probably integrated into operating system pretty deep

Bernd 06/28/2017 (Wed) 05:29:19 [Preview] No. 8456 del
>otherwise >>8441 has the right idea, solution for this should be done on hardware level (turn it non-functional)
Actually that was my idea:
>disassemble the phone and disconnect it on the circuit board
So I don't think we are any further solving the problem.

Bernd 06/28/2017 (Wed) 11:10:47 [Preview] No. 8461 del
>he has a phone
normies pls go

Bernd 06/28/2017 (Wed) 20:15:42 [Preview] No. 8515 del
It is possible if GPS is separate on board, although it may broke without it. Better to replace with identical dummy module. You also can try to cheat and make some dummy software that would give fake coordinates, and evil google and Russian hackers would trust it.

But it is all meaningless shit, mate. You can be tracked by cellular network. It isn't very precise, but working. You also can be tracked by wifi, even if it is your wifi - some people and organizations do wifi maps in cities.

You have nowhere to run. It is the end.

Bernd 06/29/2017 (Thu) 05:13:35 [Preview] No. 8525 del
I knew it! If you need real useful info a Russian can give you one.
What can be GPS integrated into? CPU, Bluetooth, Wifi?
Yeah I know about triangulation that's how older non-smart phones were tracked in need. Here we had some law about the period of time the providers had to keep the data and how the data can be acquired by anyone and such. However what's the thingy they track? The receiver's movement in the network? I dunno much about this.
Since when they equip phones with GPS btw?
If it's connecting to wifis.

Bernd 06/29/2017 (Thu) 10:19:17 [Preview] No. 8528 del
>What can be GPS integrated into? CPU, Bluetooth, Wifi?

It can be integrated in one big chip that you couldn't remove easily. Although chip often placed near, but I guess all thing will broke if you just remove one part.

>However what's the thingy they track? The receiver's movement in the network? I dunno much about this.

They can easily find network cell where your phone is located and record your movement between cells, no triangulation is needed, you phone registers by itself. It is pretty easy even to store, so they do it for years, police can ask them if they want. It has bad precision (few km, depends of network density), but it is something.

Overall, everything depends of what you want to achieve, what you want to hide etc.

Bernd 06/29/2017 (Thu) 10:51:08 [Preview] No. 8530 del
Even if you did, they'd still know where you are through triangulation
>he's 1 mile away from this tower, 200 feet from this tower and half a mile away from this one
>therefore he should be right here
This is how they were able to track people's location before GPS

Bernd 06/29/2017 (Thu) 12:21:29 [Preview] No. 8531 del
Imagine a world where anybody can just take a look at you and know exactly where you are. Millennials have it worst.

Bernd 06/30/2017 (Fri) 09:14:40 [Preview] No. 8559 del
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I literally don't worry about it because I have no real social accounts or popular smartphone. Maybe in 30-40 years everyone would have ID chip under skin, but I'll be dead already.

Fuck this world.

Bernd 06/30/2017 (Fri) 21:59:01 [Preview] No. 8585 del
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Welcome to the dystopia world. In this world, the cheaper and "dumber" your tech is, the more freedom you actually have so you don't have to worry about what problems other people have.
If your phone does not have a GPS module, then you don't have to worry about it, however you will have to worry if you want to locate yourself when you are in a unknown are that you don't recognize.
If the hardware way is not the way to get rid of then how would you get rid of it? This is a bit similar question when it comes to Intel ME and Libreboot. I mean get a new kernel with no support for the GPS module or something like that. In a android phone, would this mean that you have to get root access and then remove some of the files that are needed to operate the GPS?
>You also can try to cheat and make some dummy software that would give fake coordinates
I believe this would be somewhat good solution because in android developer tools, you can enable fake locations. There should also be some software for that because of the Pokemon GO nonsense where people would start to cheat by giving false coordinates to the app so they would get advantage over other players.
>But it is all meaningless shit, mate. You can be tracked by cellular network. It isn't very precise, but working. You also can be tracked by wifi, even if it is your wifi - some people and organizations do wifi maps in cities.
This is certainly true, thanks to the latest wikileaks info on windows machine and how they can give your location up when you use wlan access point. This then begs the question, how can you access the internet without compromising your location? Using a Linux machine that then router the internet further on down the machines while blocking ports that might be used malicious and stuff like that.
>You have nowhere to run. It is the end.
If only I could think of a counter argument for that. Go offline and use computers offline while only accessing internet public wlan? Or cracking neighbours access point to be anonymous?
Stallman was right.

I really have to learn to use RS232 and Parallel port. You guys better start stockpile on thinkpads and then libreboot them or buy old enough machine with no features such as Intel ME/AMT or anything else actually.
This really is the end when you can't tell what EU is up to. I wonder when free speech becomes a joke.

Bernd 07/01/2017 (Sat) 09:43:33 [Preview] No. 8603 del
>I wonder when free speech becomes a joke.

it isn't now? you can speak only about things that noone cares about, and mass bydlo opinion is 100% controllable.

if you say "fuck refuges" you will literally go to gulag.

Bernd 07/01/2017 (Sat) 09:47:43 [Preview] No. 8604 del
>I mean get a new kernel with no support for the GPS module or something like that.
No, the problem exists that the radio comes with firmware than can use the arm chip to run arbitrary code and access the GPS outside of the OS, meaning it doesn't even touch the kernel. The only option here is to short circuit/bypass the chip with a bit of wiring or possibly flash the chip to make it broken.

I hate to get too technical on this, but unless this is for a specific use then it's likely a moot point. Your IMEI will be tracked to the receiving tower and the data you send and its' recipients logged.

>You also can be tracked by wifi, even if it is your wifi - some people and organizations do wifi maps in cities
Actually this is a misconception. It's true, most wifi AP's are mapped but how would they know which AP you are using? From one end your activity would be traced back to the IP, which they would have an adress for and know you are accessing from somewhere they can track by signals. The other way is that you share the SSID with google/apple which they find on the map data however this can be disabled in android and usually isn't on custom roms.

I suppose you could get really technical about this, but if you really want to do this get a stack of prepaid burner phones and only talk to others with burners and don't use names or addresses. The information is too sporadic to efficiently mine. The other option gets too technical, which would be a secured smart phone phone with software to change the IMEI, using a VPN with shared IPs over a mobile data network to communicate via VOIP or other encrypted p2p messaging. That said they might just target you directly for using encryption, in which case the backdoor in your radios' firmware means you are fucked. The entire mobile telenet communication system is fucked.

You could do what Stallman does. Get a pager. Someone contacts you. You find a wifi area and contact them securely. What you really want is a free software wifi capable tablet the size of a small smart phone which would be much more convenient that lugging around your laptop.

Bernd 07/01/2017 (Sat) 10:08:14 [Preview] No. 8605 del
Free speech is pretty new concept actually, it properly exists only in USA and really worked only last ~50 years. In other parts of world speech was never free.

So, enjoy this at least.

>if you say "fuck refuges" you will literally go to gulag.

Always was like this, especially in West, where people are overly collectivist and communitarian inside. Going against community is the best way to be an outsider.

Bernd 07/01/2017 (Sat) 10:15:15 [Preview] No. 8607 del
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There are plenty ways to became anonymous even in our times, but they all require some hard work and limit your ability to interact with common people. Like this:

>get a stack of prepaid burner phones and only talk to others with burners and don't use names or addresses

So, everything depends on what you want to hide, who are you and why you doing all this. All this require serious changes to your life (if you are commoner). I don't talk here about special needs like transferring big evil secrets through internet.

It is good to have some king of privacy in normal life though.

Bernd 07/01/2017 (Sat) 15:43:37 [Preview] No. 8609 del
>Is it possible to disable GPS in phones?
Pretty easily actually. GPS signals come from sattellites, so they are very weak. All you have to do is jam the frequency with a low power transmitter and your phone is blind.
Don't forget GLONASS for more modern phones.

Bernd 07/01/2017 (Sat) 19:32:12 [Preview] No. 8634 del
actually yeah people do that a lot
and considering the standards it wouldn't jam anything else either
but I'm not sure how much power would a jammer take, probably not much but still I'd like to know figures

Bernd 08/04/2017 (Fri) 14:15:52 [Preview] No. 9405 del
Hypothetically if you'd have to stream video over lan how would you do it, Bernd?

Bernd 08/04/2017 (Fri) 16:03:00 [Preview] No. 9406 del
if windows I used to use servio to stream video files on my computer to my ps3/tv set up. There's osmc? I think it's called on linux. I never got it to work though. Servio was pretty easy though I'm not sure what it can and can't all stream to.

Bernd 08/04/2017 (Fri) 16:12:19 [Preview] No. 9407 del
I'd use VLC, it's what its original purpose was (Video LAN Client)

Bernd 08/04/2017 (Fri) 16:36:48 [Preview] No. 9414 del
Yeah, it seems it has Debian packages.

>Video LAN Client
What's the server?

Bernd 08/04/2017 (Fri) 17:01:49 [Preview] No. 9416 del
There used to be a separate VLS (Video LAN Server) but they've been joined into a single project.

Bernd 08/04/2017 (Fri) 19:34:32 [Preview] No. 9417 del
It depends what you want to stream, and who would watch it and how much time you are ready to invest in setup. VLC is probably easiest solution.

I, for example, would just share file with http server (just one-liner in terminal) and watch it through mpv through http, although you can't do it with webcam.

Bernd 08/08/2017 (Tue) 19:24:08 [Preview] No. 9479 del
>I, for example, would just share file with http server (just one-liner in terminal) and watch it through mpv through http,
That's a sympathetic solution. What would be the easiest server to use?

Bernd 08/08/2017 (Tue) 19:32:14 [Preview] No. 9480 del
I just doing something like "cd /path/to/dir && python -m http.server 9090" (where 9090 is port). It is for python 3, for 2 it would be -m SimpleHTTPServer, and other is same. Don't know about non-linuxes, I have none.

There is some list: https://gist.github.com/willurd/5720255

If you want something more serious and static, nginx is pretty simple. Maybe some hipster thing like caddy, but I never used it by myself.

Bernd 08/08/2017 (Tue) 19:59:54 [Preview] No. 9482 del
Hm. That one liner sounds something that can be used via SSH and don't need tinkering with the server-to-be.

Bernd 08/08/2017 (Tue) 20:00:34 [Preview] No. 9483 del
Also I'm guessing custom port number can be given, no?

Bernd 08/08/2017 (Tue) 20:15:55 [Preview] No. 9484 del
Yes. This is really simple solution for transferring files inside network or even over internet.

These servers may have not perfect performance, but it isn't a problem for this use case.


Bernd 09/13/2017 (Wed) 21:02:13 [Preview] No. 10379 del
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I never ever Windows 10 but now a friend of mine asked me to check a laptop of his coworker as "it keeps restarting". Prescription from the guy said I should install a new Win 10 on it. I said I'll check it out. I thought it's faulty RAM or something.
Here's the laptop, and it just gave a notice about a changed hardware setting with a recommendation of restarting on every startup. No actual restart, click OK and it's usable. So it's driver and I figured it's the graphics as it's AMD. I updated the driver meanwhile the Windows had his Windows update.
After a restart I restarted it again, and the problem went away. I let the machine sit for a while turned on (I did my evening routine meanwhile) then I tried shutdown or restart I don't remember (I planned to check it again). But this piece of crap just loads something: blue background, circle goes around and around with a text: "Preparing Windows - Do not turn the machine off".
This goes for at least 20 minutes now. What the fuck?

Bernd 09/14/2017 (Thu) 05:15:30 [Preview] No. 10387 del
So I let it sit for another 20 mins then of course I turned it off. Or suspended or whatever as when I turned it on it cuntinued with this shit. So I powered off for the night.
About half hour ago I flipped it on again. Continued loading. Then loaded. It wörks now as intended. Even the booting became shorter.
The mysterious ways of Windows I guess. But I realized why is it called 10. It took 10 mins for it to make me rage.

Bernd 09/14/2017 (Thu) 09:58:18 [Preview] No. 10391 del
windows, more like faildows

Bernd 09/14/2017 (Thu) 15:28:37 [Preview] No. 10392 del
You're right.

Also the Windows update itself took like ages. Just dl-ing the stuff was 1,5 hour. Then installing another half hour. Than this "getting ready" stuff...
I don't get it. Linux has it's quirks due it's development by hobbyists working in their free time. But Microsoft engineers and programmers are paid handsomely to exclusively do their job. Then they sell their shit for a smaller treasure.

Bernd 09/14/2017 (Thu) 17:06:31 [Preview] No. 10398 del
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windows, more like bin, douse, and set on fire

Bernd 09/15/2017 (Fri) 14:06:34 [Preview] No. 10418 del
You are literally witnessing the failure of capitalism first-hand

Bernd 09/15/2017 (Fri) 16:00:38 [Preview] No. 10426 del
you mean, the failure of monopolies

Bernd 09/16/2017 (Sat) 09:51:34 [Preview] No. 10459 del
>What is Apple

Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 06:01:29 [Preview] No. 10874 del
Why is it so fucking hard to find a passable proxy?

Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 08:37:03 [Preview] No. 10875 del
You want free proxy? These things were dead for years.

Make them by yourself now, hosting is cheap.

Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 15:45:08 [Preview] No. 10876 del
I find working free proxies with the same effort since forever which is a damn long period.
I don't want to set up an own as I rarely need or want one so the expense no matter how trivial these days isn't justified.
On Monday I saw that pigdog posting on 8/kc and I tried to direct him here as he's not bad poster and we need everyone we can get. Also 8/kc doesn't need any posters as it's more dead, ümm, sorry, more special then ours here. And I'm sure he would be interested in a board with such great quality as ours. This is why I needed proxy as the new BO there bans everyone who mentions this place. I wrote on Monday evening but it was deleted yesterday. And in the end I managed to leave a post in the morn but now it's gone the BO probably anticipated another post and acted accordingly. Damn neets.

Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 16:52:14 [Preview] No. 10878 del
Some time ago 8/kc was again free for claim
>wrote email to admin
>advertised this place there
>next day I'm banned and board is taken

Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 17:04:40 [Preview] No. 10882 del
What a pleasant bunch.
Where can one see which boards are claimable?

Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 18:11:07 [Preview] No. 10884 del
>/int/ is still claimable
I wrote an email a month ago already, I wonder what's wrong with it?

Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 18:12:08 [Preview] No. 10885 del

So. They might know him and when you tried to claim the board they notified him and did the necessary steps to keep the board. I don't understand the ban tho.

Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 18:14:13 [Preview] No. 10888 del
How much traffic does it get?

Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 18:23:35 [Preview] No. 10890 del
Slightly more than this place, I'd say.

Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 22:10:56 [Preview] No. 10903 del
IIRC there's a rule specifically banning the use of Jimchan boards to advertise boards on other sites.

Bernd 10/05/2017 (Thu) 15:31:54 [Preview] No. 10910 del
I remember now that I asked for the board just after last KC downtime, so tbh the old-new owner could just log in into his account.
Also I know about board advertising rule, it's only in effect if you have a board solely to redirect traffic into a different place, and I just made one thread as a user and got banned by local owner.

Bernd 11/11/2017 (Sat) 17:36:33 [Preview] No. 11839 del
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I won't open a new thread as won't be that many pictures of this.

Look at this treasure, Bernd. A screwdriver of the greatest brand. It doesn't wörk. It's mechanical parts are fine the batteries or the charger died. I have a power drill and screw bits but the trigger is too sensitive on that and I got this Tesco shit for free and I'll repair it.
Well if I succeed. I have a cunning plan.
1. Disassemble it. Screw out the screws, break the plastic where it needs breaking, cut the cords.
2. Join the two-two cords.
3. Apply soldering and duct-tape freely.
4. ???
I'm gonna do this in the near future and I'll post updates.
Do you have any tips?

Bernd 11/13/2017 (Mon) 16:30:00 [Preview] No. 11866 del
good luck
repearing/building stuff is good for a man's soul

Bernd 11/13/2017 (Mon) 17:16:34 [Preview] No. 11870 del
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I think and hope so too.

I took apart the adapter and this little panel was inside. I calculate the positive wire is the one I marked with red +. This stuff supposedly important with AC devices.

Bernd 11/15/2017 (Wed) 03:18:32 [Preview] No. 11905 del
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>Tech Thread

When you search for comma in Finnish, a graphic for a comma fucker comes up as the default descriptive image.

Bernd 11/15/2017 (Wed) 06:21:50 [Preview] No. 11906 del
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If your language has an expression for it than there's a chance it'll turn up.
You can also turn on parental control or whatnot and don't get the result.

Bernd 11/15/2017 (Wed) 07:58:09 [Preview] No. 11909 del

Bernd 11/15/2017 (Wed) 08:04:08 [Preview] No. 11910 del
i think you either mean "live" or "DC"

Bernd 11/15/2017 (Wed) 16:15:11 [Preview] No. 11914 del
Yeah, DC, thanks. But while we are at it, do you have other tips then grammatical ones?
Liek. I've to options. Unscrew the screws on the drill to take apart the plastic casing or I can cut the end of the grip with a saw. I'm pro taking apart the normal way now as I'm not sure if I cut I'll have enough space to work there and could turn out in the end I still have to take the thing apart. But it's not sure taking it apart will be as straightforward as I think it now. Difficulties I'm not planned for could rise.

Bernd 11/15/2017 (Wed) 19:38:37 [Preview] No. 11921 del

Bud what you got there is a cheap as fuck TESCO crapdrill. As you can see it says "12 volts" and so what this means is that it's taking 110 from your wall and converting it and storing it as 12volts in the battery (which in an asshole fashion, they seal inside the base of it). All you gotta do is like you said, cut the bottom cap off the drill, and you'll find a 12 volt battery in there. They all have two wires, + and - so then just take that battery out, and use a car battery which runs at 12 volts instead. Every 12 volt drill can run straight off a car battery. To make the connections permanent, simply solder them or get some crimp connectors. Bolt a smaller motor cycle battery to it that you can then tape together, and you have freed that baby from the wall cord forever. Well, at least until you need to charge it. But don't charge your new creation at the wall using the old cord, get a decent 12volt battery charger. Congrats on being one of the learning types, you will go far.

Bernd 11/15/2017 (Wed) 20:16:01 [Preview] No. 11924 del
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Not that it matters but 230V runs in the wires in the wall here. The adapter gives 15V to the battery which converts it down to 12. The battery itself is detachable that's how can be connected to the adapter which has (had) the same shape as the grip of the drill.
I'm gonna connect the adapter directly to the drill's motor which will take every V of that 15 like a champ. It's not a problem for me to run an extension cord where I have to drill.
I have to admit I rarely tinker with these kind of things but I also have to say I'm not hesitating doing it just don't have the time. So that's why it takes it few days or some more. At least I've something not that usual to post.
That car/bike battery solution is fairly creative.

Bernd 11/15/2017 (Wed) 20:29:22 [Preview] No. 11926 del

I does matter and thanks for pointing out, yes, I knew you were on 220 over there but didn't want to presume. You got the right idea. Really tho, what will you drill? Hey why not crack the thing open and take out the very DC motor in there, and then chuk a sprocket and drive a chain with it? You could literally make a motorized skateboard with what you got, iv you have some chain and a welder.

Bernd 11/15/2017 (Wed) 20:42:49 [Preview] No. 11928 del
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How about a bench grinder? I have some old stones and I want to build sometimes a foot powered one.
I might have a chain tho or can get one for nothing or next to it. But my welding skill is about the same (next to nothing) as I can't hold the trode steady because my hands are a bit shaky (just enough to make welding an irritating experience for me). I blame my younger self I hit the nerves out of my knuckles.

Bernd 11/15/2017 (Wed) 23:30:37 [Preview] No. 11930 del
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Why do you need chain?

Bernd 11/15/2017 (Wed) 23:36:43 [Preview] No. 11931 del
The potentials for both great construction of things, and also destruction of self, boggle the mind. Well done lads.

Bernd 11/15/2017 (Wed) 23:47:15 [Preview] No. 11932 del
Amen brother! I finally found me a person just like me!

Bernd 11/16/2017 (Thu) 00:32:39 [Preview] No. 11933 del
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Bernd 11/16/2017 (Thu) 06:09:46 [Preview] No. 11934 del
I don't. I was a comment on his original idea: >>11926
Since then I got the great idea of combining picrel with wheels. That two shits on the sides could be used as steering devices with the help of some lines.

Bernd 11/16/2017 (Thu) 18:34:41 [Preview] No. 11939 del
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The inside of this sophisticated piece of machinery. Unlike the adapter's cord the wires are color coded, the red one is the +.
I didn't cut but removed the wires with a soldering iron from their original joining points to preserve as much wire as I can.

Bernd 11/16/2017 (Thu) 18:50:47 [Preview] No. 11940 del
trannies fuck off, just go for coreboot, it removes the ME and all other harmful proprietary shit most of the time and works on modern hardware, check out Raptor Engineering

Bernd 11/16/2017 (Thu) 19:05:51 [Preview] No. 11941 del
And how does one replace the uefi with *boot?

Bernd 11/16/2017 (Thu) 19:27:02 [Preview] No. 11946 del
lmao, can't you do a simple Google search and read the Coreboot wiki?

tianocore is an open source replacement for UEFI, just use it as your payload during the build stage if you want it, most of the boards are fine with using SeaBIOS though, but you won't have GPT support and a few other neat features

Bernd 11/16/2017 (Thu) 19:41:03 [Preview] No. 11947 del
>can't you do a simple Google search and read the Coreboot wiki?
I could but chans are for posting stuff. If everyone just googled no conversations would exist. You seem well informed I bet you're installed many bios uefi replacers. What's your experience? How well they perform?

Bernd 11/16/2017 (Thu) 19:51:49 [Preview] No. 11948 del
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Librefoot trannies said "sorry" already: https://libreboot.org/news/unity.html

It's just about "struggling with gender dysphoria and substance abuse", stop hating, evil white man.

Bernd 11/16/2017 (Thu) 19:53:43 [Preview] No. 11949 del
You're hip-deep now man. Just look at that gleaming and useful DC motor which those Tesco a holes assume we are too dumb to use or modify. Why do they have such contempt for those of us who take apart and then make better, all the things we own? Hmm, I am seeing many uses for this motor. I would hook it to a car battery and chuck the thing onto a bike wheel, and then use it to turn a automotive alternator which generates 12 volts+ which then powers the motor, PRESTO! unlimited energy machine so long as you only use small loads. Throw some bricks in the wheel for a heavier turning wheel and you got energy storage in the wheel which will push a little more juice. Not sure if all your cars there produce 12 volts DC, of course if they produce 15 volts that's fine, DC normally is such that a device will only draw as much current as it needs, so my alternator on my truck runs at 14 volts tho the components only need 12.

Bernd 11/16/2017 (Thu) 20:34:50 [Preview] No. 11950 del
Faster performance, greater security. Comes at a cost, though. You've probably seen your BIOS/UEFI menu, no? Lots of options, including fan speeds. Maybe CPU overclocking, RAM voltage. Coreboot has none of that. You're left with a blank menu with an option to choose the media you want to boot from. This is mostly how the speed is gained. Granted, the average user doesn't need those, but if you wanna overclock your machine, bad luck, you can only do software level shit.

I found this disappointing personally because the best boards supported by coreboot sans the Raptor Engineering $6k stuff are Ivy Bridge. You can achieve amazing performance, granted you perform CPU delidding and overclock a K series. Goes out of the window on coreboot. You still can build a great server, a desktop for work, but no high spec gaming (although funnily, if your board didn't support a modern GPU, it will in coreboot).

If you wanna ask why is that, well, adding overclocking is unsafe. The people who write the software are not the manufacturers, and thus they do not possess the in depth knowledge of every single chip and capacitor on the board required to safely overclock.

What might put you off is that a lot of boards have write protected flash chips, requiring an external flasher. It took me a while to figure out, but I bought a cheap CHA341 programmer with a SPI chip adapter (search for SOP8 to DIP8 200 milimeter), fucked around with the positions and finally got to flash the fucker. Once you do it, all subsequent times will be easy. Also once you external flash, you can update coreboot or flash something else from the software level using flashrom.

Go for it. It's an adventure.

Bernd 11/17/2017 (Fri) 06:30:47 [Preview] No. 11956 del
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How a ringworld wörks?
One side is constantly scorched by the Sun, the other is in permanent dark. The ozone filters much UV all right but an Earthlike planet has temperature fluctuation and nights give time for cooling down. Constant sunlight would cause overheating. And in all the ringworld pics the constructs seem to face the Sun equatorial style.
Or the inner side has solar panel coating and people would live in artificial heating and lighting conditions? With artificial skydome?
I really should read the novel. Right now I'm stuck in the mire of the Black Company series.

Bernd 11/17/2017 (Fri) 06:55:24 [Preview] No. 11959 del

I would think first you'd need to wrangle some asteroid to use for mining material for the first panel or whatever that people live on. The reverse side, being as cold as fuck would be very useful not in the least for cyclic power between the warm and cold sides, I expect the cold side could be made very useful, a freezer under every home so to speak. Have not read the book tho. From where we are as a world, it's like ants discussing how to build skyscrapers. Anyway even if we built it, some asshole muslim would try to blow it up.

Bernd 11/17/2017 (Fri) 15:04:46 [Preview] No.11961 del
Best option: just place it further away than you would have a regular planet. For example ring at around Mars distance. Actually I could calculate how much further away you'd need to place a disc, it all comes down to radiative balance.

Bernd 11/17/2017 (Fri) 16:41:28 [Preview] No.11965 del
Oh yeah. The cold side could be used as heat sink. Also solar panels could generate electricity 24/7 and solar furnaces and cookers everywhere.
Still, constant daylight can fuck with the peep's mind so nights still would be nice tho. Maybe certain sections of the structure could rotate to have day-night cycle.

>From where we are as a world, it's like ants discussing how to build skyscrapers.
Ants are very good at building giant structures (compared to their size).

>I could calculate
After that calculation would you consider making a sketch on the weather? How would a weather look like on a world like in pictures? Or how it should be regulated if it would be possible?

Bernd 11/17/2017 (Fri) 16:46:40 [Preview] No.11966 del
>how would weather look like
Hm, since there's zero differential rotation and temperature from equator to poles, there's no Coriolis effect, so there can be no cyclones, no jet stream, in other words, very boring. It would all look like convective storms right next to equator.

Bernd 11/17/2017 (Fri) 16:49:59 [Preview] No.11968 del
As for day/night cycle, the usual idea is to build big-ass shades, as in pic 3 in >>11956

Bernd 11/17/2017 (Fri) 16:56:00 [Preview] No.11971 del
> Maybe certain sections of the structure could rotate to have day-night cycle.
Unless we are talking about some artificial gravity, the ring would have to spin so people on the sunny side could walk normally. If you rotate a section to make a night the force created by rotation instead of keeping them on the ground would catapult them into the void.

Bernd 11/17/2017 (Fri) 16:56:40 [Preview] No.11972 del
>the force created by rotation
I meant force created by spinning.

Bernd 11/17/2017 (Fri) 16:58:47 [Preview] No.11973 del
No you don't need artificial gravity. If the torus is massive enough...
Oh wait there's absolutely no way you can get enough rock to make a torus around a star like that.

Bernd 11/17/2017 (Fri) 16:59:55 [Preview] No.11974 del
Still for large enough centrifugal effect you'd need some crazy spin on that ring. Another thing to calculate...

Bernd 11/17/2017 (Fri) 17:08:20 [Preview] No.11975 del
>If the torus is massive enough...
>enough rock
And we have hollow Earth, don't we?

Bernd 11/17/2017 (Fri) 17:31:45 [Preview] No.11976 del
Found that picture.
How crazy is 1200km/s?

Bernd 11/17/2017 (Fri) 19:37:02 [Preview] No.11979 del
OK. So let's start with calculating the radius of a ringworld for an Earth-like climate.

Energy flux from Sun is the same at all distances (there's not much medium that would block it in between), so energy flux density is correlated to the square of distance from Sun – the surface of a sphere at a given distance. This energy received is then lost back into space by thermal radiation, which by Stefan's law is correlated to fourth power of temperature. Since the Earth is generally in thermal equilibrium, we can say that thermal radiation of Earth needs to be the same as illumination of Earth from Sun.

Now, the Earth is (at our level of precision) a sphere; it has surface area of 4πr², and entire surface radiates heat back into space (let's ignore temperature differences on the surface, and just calculate for average temperature). But it receives energy from Sun only by the area of its cross-section; which is a circle of area πr². On contrary, a ringworld would receive energy flux from Sun by its entire internal area, and also radiate it back with the same area (energy flux into the ground onto the other side is negligible, energy flux coming out of the ground is also negligible in Earth's case). This different ratio of effective surface areas for both energy fluxes is what I'll use for calculating the required size of the ringworld.

Option 1) no shades. In this case, the ringworld needs to be positioned at the distance where energy flux from Sun is 1/4 that at Earth's distance, for it to have equilibrium at the same temperature. From the square law of energy flux decrease it follows that the ring needs to be at the distance of 2AU, or radius of about 300M km.

Option 2) with shades. The ringworld now receives only half the Solar irradiation, so we need to place it at distance where energy flux would be 1/2 without the shades. Take a square root out of this for distance of 1.4AU, or about 210M km.

Bernd 11/17/2017 (Fri) 19:56:19 [Preview] No.11980 del
Let us continue calculating how to make such a ring work so that things don't just fall off it. From here on I'll rely on the shaded option, going unshaded the structure is only more ridiculously oversized.

If we want to generate Earth-like gravity of about 9.81 m/s², there are as I said before two options. Option one is to construct a massive ring and rely on gravitational pull. That's not really feasible, just by handwaving and considering orders of magnitude one can see that the ring would have to be about Earth's thickness to have a similar gravitational pull; and to have a ring of about Earth's thickness all the way around the Sun, from Earth's diameter of about 12k km you'd need 17500 Earths. That's about 10²⁹kg, which is 50 Jupiter's masses, or 5% Sun's mass. So, option discarded.

Let's try with spin. In a spinning system centrifugal effect can be expressed as a_c = rω². Plugging in values a_c = 9.81 m/s² an r = 210M km one gets angular velocity of ω = 6.8 μs⁻¹, completing one full revolution (2π) in 10.7 days. Similarly from angular velocity and radius one can calculate radial velocity, v = rω, or 1440 km/s.

Bernd 11/17/2017 (Fri) 20:57:41 [Preview] No.11981 del
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So. How do we calculate structural tension in the ring? We need to understand what generates this tension.

So, we have a centrifugal effect in the ring. There needs to be some structural integrity in the ring that holds it together, so that it doesn't fall apart. To do that we need to employ differential calculus, but to make it clearer what's going on I'll use finite sections of ring and just linearise everything (which gives the same result).

So, if you take a section of the ring of angle Δφ, and balance out the forces, we have three forces: the structural tension on both sides, and the centrifugal effect that we need to balance out. The section has mass of ΔM = Δφ * μ, where by μ I have introduced angular mass density, which has units of mass per angle (in radians, or in degrees, doesn't matter, it just needs to be in same units as Δφ). By F = M * a and plugging everything in, we can get the equation for centripetal force F_c = Δφ * μ * g₀ (standard gravitational acceleration).

On the other hand, the tension generates, from vector-summing tension force F_t on both sides, a counteracting force towards the centre. That force can be calculated by using chord function, crd(θ) = 2 sin (θ/2). I'm providing a quick sketch of how this summing is done; but the end result is F_c = crd(Δφ) * F_t.

Now we need to linearise the expressions which will get us to the differential equations. As Δφ goes to zero, we can expand it to get that crd(dφ) is simply dφ (just like sine) — provided that we use radians as units of angle. So, crd(dφ) * F_t = dφ * F_t, which is in turn equal to dφ * μ * g₀ from previous equation. We can just divide by dφ on both sides (we sent dφ to zero, but it's just almost zero, so we can still divide by it). This gives us final equation for tension force: F_t = μ * g₀. Here we will need to plug in the value for angular mass density μ, or rather since mass of whole ring is M = 2π * μ (we're using radians), we can also write this in terms of mass of the ring F_t = M * g₀.

We'd like to compare this with tensile strength. We can write mass as product of ordinary density times volume, and volume as cross-section times circumference, where circumference is of course 2πR; M = ρ * S * 2πR. Tensile strength is given as tension force times cross-section; σ = F_t/S. Dividing both sides by S thus gives the equation: σ = ρ * 2πR * g₀. To compare with real materials let's just calculate the ratio between tensile strength and density σ/ρ from given dimensions; we get value of 1.3*10¹³ m²/s², which in usual units of tensile strength and density is 1.3*10¹⁰ MPa per g/cm³. For most metals, fibres, etc.. this is in range 100-1000; for graphene it's in range of 10⁵, and for carbon nanotubes it's theoretically up to 10⁷. So, the strongest structural material known to man is still 1000 times weaker than what one would require to hold up such a structure — and it's a nanomaterial, not something one would construct a huge-ass space structure out of it. To give another perspective of the scale of tension, if one assumed density of the ring close to that of rock or metal, several g/cm³, the tension force would be comparable to the pressure at the centre of Sun.

Bernd 11/17/2017 (Fri) 21:00:23 [Preview] No.11982 del
Addendum: actually, we'd need to have slightly more spin, as we'd also need to take gravitational pull of the Sun into account. But to counteract that gravitational pull one needs much smaller velocities; Mars which orbits at similar distance has mean orbital velocity of 24 km/s, so we'd need to add a 2% correction.

Bernd 11/18/2017 (Sat) 07:21:10 [Preview] No.11985 del
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I see you took this seriously and it was on teh /kc/.
I'll read it with proper attention.

Bernd 11/18/2017 (Sat) 11:30:03 [Preview] No.11986 del
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I made a hole on the buttom of the grip so it can accomodate that thingy on the wires which prevents breaking. I found a thinner part on the plastic where I simply cut it with a knife.
I did horrible job with the soldering. It was awful. So I decided it's high time to clean the iron. Then it went much better. I tried to correct the crap I made, it's better but still ugly. At least the tape covers it's esthetic too.
Then assembled the shit.

sage Bernd 11/18/2017 (Sat) 11:31:43 [Preview] No.11987 del
Well I did good with that one. Kek.

Bernd 11/18/2017 (Sat) 11:32:22 [Preview] No.11988 del
Too many fields.

Bernd 11/18/2017 (Sat) 11:37:50 [Preview] No.11989 del
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Then of course I tested it out. It wörks!
But it's shit. Weak as fuck. It seems that 400mAh of the adapter is nowhere to enough. With a different adapter it could work tho. For now I'll put this project smugface on ice for a while, I'll check if I have something somewhere or if I can get one. For free ofc I don't want to sink moneiz in this.

Here's a shitty webm on how shitty it is.

Bernd 11/18/2017 (Sat) 12:01:36 [Preview] No.11990 del
Now a structure like this even if it's not as thick as the Earth would have a considerable mass with it's own gravitational pull. And a ring's center of gravity is in the middle where the Sun is. This pull should be compensated too, no?

Bernd 11/18/2017 (Sat) 13:31:25 [Preview] No.11991 del
nod really, a 2% less gravity won't be changing much in our life
in fact I though we could decrease the gravity on the ring even more thus making it cheaper and easier to build, but I don't know what are acceptable values for comfortable human living standards

Bernd 11/18/2017 (Sat) 13:41:25 [Preview] No.11992 del
what are the ogg related noises?

Bernd 11/18/2017 (Sat) 14:40:17 [Preview] No.11993 del
It might be just the camera. If I move it (no matter how small the movement is) then the optics constantly makes rattling noises. It's so quiet it's only audible if I put it near my ears but of course the mic picks it up.
Or it's the interference from the bugs secret services covered the house with.
The drill doesn't make any noise when it's plugged in until I pull the trigger. Then it starts buzzing. (And it only works if I pull the trigger all the way.)

Bernd 11/18/2017 (Sat) 14:53:38 [Preview] No.11994 del
We don't know if that pull (it's not the Sun's but the structure itself) only effects with 2%.
Also if we start building it I've an underpowered drill for the cause.

Bernd 11/18/2017 (Sat) 14:58:21 [Preview] No.11995 del
pull of the structure will be much smaller then the sun's, because there's no way we can make it have more mass then the star

Bernd 11/18/2017 (Sat) 15:06:36 [Preview] No.11996 del
Well, I can make a your mum joke out of this.

Bernd 11/18/2017 (Sat) 18:02:35 [Preview] No.12003 del
go ahead

Bernd 11/18/2017 (Sat) 18:16:12 [Preview] No.12004 del
you can't really use any argument concerning centre of mass here, that only works for gravitational field at large distances
for gravitational field nearby the best bet would be solving Laplace equation

Bernd 11/18/2017 (Sat) 19:58:06 [Preview] No.12005 del
>no way we can make it have more mass then the star
Until your mom gets on board.

Your mom is so fat she's the center of gravity in our ringworld.

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Bernd 12/25/2017 (Mon) 15:55:38 [Preview] No.12725 del
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I was in a very Christmasy mood so I made a candle from a used tealight tin, twine and some rancid lard. For ten minutes it worked as any normal tealight, then it's flame ebbed but kept burning on that level for more than an hour. It went out few minutes ago.
With a better wick it should keep going. I don wanna buy professional wick so am gonna fuck with the twine, maybe I'll twine two strands (the two end of the same strand), or make ot more fluffy by tearing the fibers so it might absorb the melted lard better.

Bernd 01/25/2018 (Thu) 18:09:28 [Preview] No.13301 del
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I bought a new set of sounds and decided to make a short comparison/review about it because why not.
My old system was like 1st pic, a Creative Labs SBS380 it served me for at least 15 years and I'm very satisfied with it. I don't think they sell it anymore.
The new one is a Genius SW-HF2.1 1205. I had two criterion: 1. cheap, 2. available quickly. It was both.
I'd prefer the old one. It had more smooth sounding, the Genius' highs are just too crisp and the bass is too buzzing. Music - for example - sounded the same everyhwere in my room but now it's good only at my desk. However it gives a very weird feels, the speakers sound like they weren't at the place I put them but a bit more forward to my direction. I can't describe it better. It's a good feels tho.
I don't like that the volume controls is on the .1 part of the set. I have a particular place where I stand the bass on the ground and now I just can't fuck with the volume easily whenever I want. I put the thing on a shelf close to where it should be, but in a distance I can reach without much fuss but the sounding turned to shit so I placed back where it belongs and I'll try and get used to the thought I have to set the volume via software from now on.

Bernd 01/25/2018 (Thu) 20:08:22 [Preview] No.13308 del
>not using a cheap shitty Chinese phone
chink botnet is better than burger botnet tbh

Bernd 01/25/2018 (Thu) 20:58:12 [Preview] No.13309 del
Just because a phone costs $500 that doesn't mean it isn't shitty Chinese.

Bernd 01/25/2018 (Thu) 22:05:41 [Preview] No.13311 del
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>I put the thing on a shelf close to where it should be, but in a distance I can reach without much fuss but the sounding turned to shit so I placed back where it belongs and I'll try and get used to the thought I have to set the volume via software from now on.

That feel when control volume through software for 10+ years. I can't even easily remember where hardware volume control is located.

t. owner of old chinese Microlab Solo MK3

Bernd 01/26/2018 (Fri) 20:25:30 [Preview] No.13335 del
yeah I guess even apple and other normie smartphones are still made in a sweatshop in China, but the difference is they run a burger-approved OS

Bernd 01/26/2018 (Fri) 21:04:45 [Preview] No.13336 del
I find myself reaching for the vol ctrl over and over again. It's annoying.
I bet it sounds good.

What's a burger-not-approved OS?

Bernd 01/27/2018 (Sat) 02:14:20 [Preview] No.13340 del
pretty much anything that isn't a smartphone OS, they can still be tracked but not to the same degree

Bernd 01/27/2018 (Sat) 08:21:20 [Preview] No.13343 del
The discourse on the OS in the case of tracking is futile we concluded in this thread previously. The hardware should be accessed and neutralized.

Bernd 01/29/2018 (Mon) 02:28:36 [Preview] No.13387 del
yeah you're right, I remember that recent list of OS's with backdoors and even fucking FreeBSD was there

Bernd 02/10/2018 (Sat) 14:24:58 [Preview] No.13604 del
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Why don't more countries produce their own CPU's (and other computer parts) considering all the info we get how the manufacturers build backdoors into them? And anyway this sounds like a sector with strategic importance nowadays, everything is run by computers.
I read Russia do it why other countries don't? Or do they? How many manufacturers even exist? Is that industry so special states rarely could afford to staff their own?

Bernd 02/11/2018 (Sun) 11:13:03 [Preview] No.13616 del
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It is pretty large question.

Not everyone could even produce own electronic components, and producing CPU is much harder. There is list in wiki about semiconductors plants, it isn't full but it shows who could and who not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabrication_plants (and some of them are fully foreign-controlled).

Producing own military electronics requires heavy investment in research and production, and only few countries care about it. USA, Russia, China and maybe France. Others rather don't care at all (like most of third world countries) or rely on someone (like Europeans with USA/NATO and foreign tech). Actually, only relatively rich places like EU can afford to do something, and most countries in EU don't have a real army, or, like Germany, doesn't know what "security" mean. They don't even have border security, why even talk about electronics?

And yes, it is hard. For example, even today Russia can't produce compact thermal imaging sight for tanks, T-90 has licensed French device made in Belarus. USSR sucked in electronics even with large sums of money spent on military. A Soviet joke: "News report: USSR industry celebrates another victory: our workers created the biggest microchip in the world! This unique product weights 30kg and has 8 carrying handles!".

Military may be ok with bad performance and size for the sake of security and quality. For example, most of military tech in Russia has CPUs with 50-300 MHZ and shielding. But if you want to make generic CPU for public, you can't use this, no one will buy these things. Russia has few CPU designer companies (military institutes, MCST and some new related companies), but only MCST could make something that is suitable for general public: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbrus_(computer) and it often contains foreign components. You also couldn't buy it on market because they don't even try to sell it: no one will buy CPU with performance of early 2000s Pentiums and price of ten new core i7. Only government can force someone to buy it because of security issues. Some of Russian CPUs actually made in Taiwan, like Baikal, and they aren't cheap too. Russian electronics manufacturers can compete on market only in niches like small components production, RFIDs or something, not in CPU or RAM.

Bernd 02/11/2018 (Sun) 18:59:13 [Preview] No.13623 del
Wut. According to that list AMD doesn't manufacture their own CPUs. Quite a surprise. Probably some related company under different name produce it for them.

It's also surprising how small processing power one need for large projects like this:

Bernd 02/11/2018 (Sun) 20:29:01 [Preview] No.13627 del
>Wut. According to that list AMD doesn't manufacture their own CPUs. Quite a surprise. Probably some related company under different name produce it for them.

Yes, they splitted their manufacturing part into Global Foundries company some time ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GlobalFoundries

>It's also surprising how small processing power one need for large projects like this:

Most of heavy calculations were made on Earth before, so it is not so surprising. And calculating some spacecraft trajectory is less complex task that even heavy 3d work that modern games do.

Bernd 02/12/2018 (Mon) 16:52:37 [Preview] No.13641 del
Oh yeah visuals of our day demand lots of resources. We could get by with weaker/slower hardware without them. Is it really that huge the difference between MS Word 3.0 and 2016?
I think the offices of the government sector could get by without brand new commercial hardware, those machines only need to be fit for certain tasks. On the other hand these have to be manufactured but factories and workers cost a lot and the users have to be taught to use their specific software, it's easier just let to use them what's already familiar. For example people would find inconvenient to get used to another mailing software.

Bernd 03/07/2018 (Wed) 17:37:30 [Preview] No.14036 del
Last week I noticed if I push Ctrl with Left/Right cursor buttons (in text editors) then the cursor jumps at the beginning/end of the words while skips other characters like commas or brackets.
My life quality is improved highly.

Bernd 03/07/2018 (Wed) 18:36:04 [Preview] No.14042 del
This sound like a bait post, but I'll bite anyway:

Stop being a faggot and learn emacs/vim (your choice) already!

Bernd 03/07/2018 (Wed) 18:47:02 [Preview] No.14044 del
Speaking of vim is qutebrowser actually usable yet? it had potential but I dropped it due to lack of addons.

Bernd 03/07/2018 (Wed) 18:52:41 [Preview] No.14045 del
I was just kinda blogposting.
I don't program on such level that I would need the mentioned IDEs, and for writing texts I'm fine with gedit. If I really need to format it nicely (rarely) only then I go for the Libre Office.

Bernd 03/07/2018 (Wed) 23:46:06 [Preview] No.14054 del
Blogposting are we?

>Speaking of vim is qutebrowser actually usable yet? it had potential but I dropped it due to lack of addons.
No idea. I have heard of it here and there (in my mind it seems to be associated to discussions of people leaving Firefox due to the signed extensions, the XUL interface removal, the general faggotry in Mozilla Foundation of late, and so forth) but personally I have not made any move yet. Well, apart from switching to the ESR branch, of course.

Actually, this reminds me, in just a matter of week(s) if not days ESR will be moved to the v59 branch and I'll be forced to finally confront the situation. Maybe I'll give qutebrowser a spin some day soon, it's packaged in my distro.

I'm a vim user myself, but I never got used to vimperator. However, I do need proper replacements for at least It's All Text and NoScript 5. In notes to myself I've got these links with references to investigate:

If things don't work out I'll continue using the current ESR inside a VM, until things improve.

>I don't program on such level that I would need the mentioned IDEs
They are not "IDEs" and you don't need to be a programmer for them to "improve your life quality".

>and for writing texts I'm fine with gedit. If I really need to format it nicely (rarely) only then I go for the Libre Office.
That's fine. But you should know that plenty of non-programmer types use and love emacs/vim. As has been said, with Eastern cadence, more than editors they are a way of life.

Bernd 03/08/2018 (Thu) 16:47:57 [Preview] No.14056 del
I've looked around but unfortunatley Firefox seems to be the only open source browser with active development. Never heard of the first addon you mentioned but uMatrix is a good replacement for NoScript.

Maybe Seamonkey would be worth checking out? it's still based on ESR 52 I think, development is pretty slow though. Also Icecat if politics is your main issue.

Bernd 03/08/2018 (Thu) 17:26:14 [Preview] No.14059 del
uMatrix is pretty good. Even better than noScript.

>Blogposting are we?
I dunno if we are blogposting I was just kinda doing it.

>plenty of non-programmer types use and love emacs/vim
Well there's an old Hungarian saying: "one is few two is lot".

Bernd 03/08/2018 (Thu) 17:49:22 [Preview] No.14060 del
seamonkey is my main browser on windows. the linux version is kind of crap and for some reason has serious issues with uploading files, and sometimes even posting on chans particularly endchan.
I like it, still has all the add-ons you could want. A lot of the add-ons that "don't work" you can just run through an online converter and install easy.
I wanted to like Qupzilla and Otter but I'm easily perturbed.

Bernd 03/08/2018 (Thu) 17:53:56 [Preview] No.14063 del
the posting issues really just make it crap for me, I don't really have any issues with it on my linux install other than that.

Bernd 03/08/2018 (Thu) 19:32:31 [Preview] No.14072 del
I used Qupzilla and Otter browser for a while but they both crash way too often (not to mention lack of addon support).
If you're autistic enough there's always Pale meme and Basilisk too.

Bernd 03/08/2018 (Thu) 20:12:35 [Preview] No.14073 del
Dunno what the deal is with all the Palemoon negativity. I found one banking website it does not play well with. For everything else it works.

I've been using Mozilla/Firefox since I dropped I.E. around version 4. Firefox, having embraced the Microsoft way of change for the sake of change and blindsiding the user with nasty surprises, is no longer viable. It feels weird, but in this Firefox is hardly exceptional. It's the life-cycle of most successful software.

Bernd 03/08/2018 (Thu) 20:15:43 [Preview] No.14075 del
I should give palemoon another go tbh. it had a startup issue for me like four years ago, and the occasional crash exacerbated it.
seamonkey does get those nasty "aayyyy fam ur browser old as shit you can't use our site"

Bernd 03/08/2018 (Thu) 20:30:33 [Preview] No.14076 del
>Dunno what the deal is with all the Palemoon negativity.
I use Palemoon, because it needs far less RAM than FF. On rare occasions sites don't work properly I think because it lags behind in the implementation of some JavaScript features. But then I pull out FF temporarily. On Endchan PM fucks up image/video previews sometimes and text placing, then again I have to pull out FF. So it can be uncomfortable and annoying.
It has plenty add-ons tho, and they try to keep up with them.

Bernd 03/08/2018 (Thu) 20:50:00 [Preview] No.14080 del

To be fair, I should mention that I use the Tor Browser blob for chan/pr0n/serious entertainment browsing. All the rest is Palemoon.

Palemoon won't last forever either. If it has a run as long a Mozilla did I think I'm all set. I reckon by the time Palemoon craps out I'll be drooling on nursing home attendants and trying to figure out the Unified Universalis Virtual A.I. interface with Legacy Leggy Tiffany Towers Virtualization theme that they'll be pushing on us old folks.

Bernd 03/09/2018 (Fri) 06:59:16 [Preview] No.14084 del
There is no real choice in browsers now. Actually, only engine matters, because it is main part that eats resources and displays content, and there is only three modern engines available: gecko (ff), chromium and webkit (others).

There is no real big difference between chromium-based browsers, for example, they'll use almost same amount of ram/cpu, they'll have same speed etc. Gecko is mozilla-only, they broke embedding long ago and no one uses is now except FF and forks (who use old versions). Webkit is relatively close to chromium, and the easiest to embed into app, so most of schoolkid-made browsers are based on it. Now, when Mozilla ditched XUL, choice between modern browsers is purely about aesthetics and look-and-feel.

Palemoon team couldn't support development of their gecko fork already. They already lags in support many js features that will be common in next years, and they wouldn't really do it because supporting engine in modern web is very complex task that requires big teams and corporation support. For example, they already lack async/await support in js. So, it is a matter of time until Palemoon will become another half-working browser that can't be used for any site.

Bernd 03/09/2018 (Fri) 19:42:38 [Preview] No.14099 del
This is exactly why I'm still sticking with Mozilla despite the bullshit. Servo seems to be the only current attempt to build a completely new rendering engine from scratch.

Bernd 03/09/2018 (Fri) 22:17:19 [Preview] No.14106 del
This thread is very convenient. I study IT and I am just looking for an idea for my diploma paper and all that talk about browsers made me think if I could try to make my own.
How hard would that be? I never really checked how browsers really work inside, but now I find that topic interesting. I imagine making my own engine from scratch would be too much but what if I based it on something existing? I also don't want to overinvest time into this, as I also have other ideas that might be more practical to go with. Worth nothing is that all my work will eventually become owned by the university and not me so I also don't want to leave them something too brilliant.
Tell me what you think.

Bernd 03/09/2018 (Fri) 22:28:17 [Preview] No.14107 del
If a dozen different developer groups and corporations can't make a web browser worth a damn out of webkit and gecko, surely no single person can either.

Bernd 03/10/2018 (Sat) 00:36:31 [Preview] No.14108 del
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>uMatrix is a good replacement for NoScript.
I like it. But I'm unsure if it's a complete replacement; not even NS 10 is currently up to par with NS 5. For example, NS 5 can do these:
- block js in local files -> apparently can't be done with WebExt
- ABE firewall language -> is uMatrix UI enough to express the kind of rules ABE allows?
- surrogate scripts -> I think uBlock0 has something like it, but not sure
- block webgl, canvas, audio/video, plugins, xlst
- noscript tag handling (defused when js disabled or forcibly shown when js enabled)
- block meta redirections in noscript tags
- force https transport for selected urls/cookies
- heuristic xss prevention
- heuristic clickjacking prevention

>Maybe Seamonkey would be worth checking out? it's still based on ESR 52 I think, development is pretty slow though.
I don't know. After Mozilla moves ESR to 59, will Seamonkey remain at 52 *with security updates*? I don't care about the latest WHATWG "features", but it needs to be maintained.

>palemoon, qupzilla, otter, random browser project fork of the week (aka: look ma I managed to build chromium/firefox)
Which is why I have hardly paid any attention to all those meme projects born of out the dissatisfaction of many probably-well-intentioned-but-ultimately-unfit-for-the-task-of-maintaining-such-a-ridiculously-large-and-complex-codebase programmers with the technical direction Mozilla is taking.

>Also Icecat if politics is your main issue.
Ethical software is essential. Security is sine qua non. These requirements go together.

Bernd 03/10/2018 (Sat) 00:43:30 [Preview] No.14109 del
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>just run through an online converter and install easy.
The idiotic things people do... >windows, oh, I see.

This RUSSIAN HACKER understands. Still, "choice" (meme word, particularly as used in software) doesn't matter much, freedom matters a lot: Gecko, Servo, WebKit, Blink are all free software. They are gigantic piles of bug-ridden bloatware, but still free software. I'll be optimistic this time and say "It could be worse".

Sounds boring, enormous amounts of utterly uninteresting work. Unless you can find some very particular sub-topic in which to invest your time, I say look for something more worthwhile/fulfilling.

The "web platform" (of which today's remotely-programmable browsers are the closest realization) was a mistake. A very profitable mistake.

Bernd 03/10/2018 (Sat) 06:26:14 [Preview] No.14110 del
I think you should look into it.
The others say it's a huge work but you only know what load you can take upon yourself. First check out the particularities to see if you could do any worthwhile and how much work it would actually need. Then decide if you want to do something else.
You also wouldn't have to create a maintainable browser, and absolutely not a new one from scratch. Maybe you could add and implement a useful idea which could be enough on it's own for your thesis. Something like he >>14109 said here:
>find ... sub-topic in which to invest your time
in his otherwise obnoxious post.
You could gain insight of the inner workings of a web browser, the structure, the problems etc.
There might be a number of possibilities here we cannot say as we don't (or don't want) to know about. You can be the judge but first you have to probe into the topic then decide for yourself.

Bernd 03/10/2018 (Sat) 08:04:20 [Preview] No.14111 del
I'm sticking with Mozilla too, but they going worse recently. They removed XUL and not only broke old addons, but broke all extension system. Now there is even no API for proper work with keyboard with WebExtensions. For example, you can't bind anything to Ctrl+n without recompilation, because some bindings are hardcoded to prevent extensions to do something evil. I, as emacs user, suffer now, because in past I used keysnail addon and now I just can't use my bindings. WebExtention-based addons have much more restricted environment.

Adblock developers in past were happy that FF provided proper api to work with network, and on chrome-based they used dirty hacks to prevent browser to download ads on page load. Now they need to use dirty hacks everywhere, because WebExtension (chrome-based mechanism) is only way to do something.

Yes, XUL was bad, it made FF slow because of some threading and process issues, but Mozilla had some solutions like Addon SDK that allowed multiprocessing and good extensions on same time (it was more complex than WebExtensions and slightly less powerful than old XUL). But they dumped it because they want to became Chrome clone for no reason.

Their policies are also becoming Chrome-like. They already pushing ads through mechanism created for browser testing: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/17/12/15/228235/mozilla-slipped-a-mr-robot-promo-plugin-into-firefox-and-users-are-pissed

At least Google is honest and you don't expect too much privacy from it, but these guys going worse and worse every year, and still say something about respecting privacy, openness etc. That's sad.

Bernd 03/10/2018 (Sat) 08:35:33 [Preview] No.14112 del
Writing web browser from scratch is hard task, and writing usable and fast web browser is much harder.

Modern web is a mess, they don't even have a standard for HTML/CSS now, it is "living standard" (really a oxymoron), they can add anything anytime without reasons. Years of bad decisions and requirement for backward compatibility also adding complexity. HTML is also pretty loose markup format, you need to expect that everything is wrong but browser must display it, otherwise half of internet wouldn't work.

Writing own Javascript engine is even harder, JS is weak dynamically typed language, so it will be fucking slow without optimizations (JIT, for example). And optimizations require serious skills.

>but what if I based it on something existing? I also don't want to overinvest time into this, as I also have other ideas that might be more practical to go with

Easiest way is going with Webkit I guess. It is easy to embed, you just need to write own browser interface, bookmark manager etc. Projects like webkitgtk and qtwebkit can help.

You also may stick with Blink. There is Chromium Embedded Framework (CEF), it looks usable. There is also a QtWebengine, it is very easy to start with it.

Gecko now is very hard to embed. I don't know about Servo, maybe it is easier (but it isn't ready yet).

>The "web platform" (of which today's remotely-programmable browsers are the closest realization) was a mistake. A very profitable mistake.

History just goes in circles (or, if you are optimist, it is a spiral). Browsers now are something like separate OS for working with remote apps, like in 80s with their mainframes and terminal clients. HTTP just replaced X server protocol.

Bernd 03/10/2018 (Sat) 15:40:51 [Preview] No.14115 del
Agreed (except for the bit about google being honest).

>History just goes in circles (or, if you are optimist, it is a spiral). Browsers now are something like separate OS for working with remote apps, like in 80s with their mainframes and terminal clients. HTTP just replaced X server protocol.
This is very well put.

It's a spiral or rather a helix for me, not because I'm optimist (I'm not) but because the circle outline is like an illusion resulting from collapsing the axis of time.

>it's neat
It's "convenient", sure. And, as is often the case with convenient things, is also stupid from (in this case) a security pov.

However, I see now that this particular service publishes its source code. So getting convenience and security assurance looks rather easy here: run the converter locally. Seems the gist of it is just a bunch of string substitutions:

Bernd 03/10/2018 (Sat) 18:34:03 [Preview] No.14119 del
Waterfox is moving to Quantum soon (not as cucked as Mozilla), there's Lynx if you want a minimalist browser, and there's the Netrunner meme. Either those, or compile your own browser.

Bernd 03/13/2018 (Tue) 05:36:44 [Preview] No.14136 del
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>Waterfox is moving to Quantum soon (not as cucked as Mozilla),

Waterfox is made by literally one guy who mostly changes build flags and makes small patches for disabling built-in things. Biggest thing he can do is to port some fixes from new versions if it is easy enough. Community is pretty small. It is more like custom build of FF, not really a fork, and if Mozilla decides to seriously remove some feature, WF devs could do nothing. Even relatively "large" projects like Thunderbird and Seamonkey don't have enough developers to cope with Mozilla changes.

>if you want a minimalist browser

A good thing that there are plenty of minimalist or not-so-modern browsers that surely are usable. Main problem that if you need a working modern hipster-made web with all features (I, sadly, need this), you'll have no choice but to stick with mainstream like FF/Chrome/Chrome-clones, and last interesting one (FF) becoming same shit like others.

Bernd 03/13/2018 (Tue) 06:12:36 [Preview] No.14137 del
What do browsers need to do anyway? Why are they such bloated? Why certain (quite a lot) sites loads like snails?

Bernd 03/13/2018 (Tue) 13:36:01 [Preview] No.14139 del
Probably because web designers these days seem to treat the internet as an application platform.

Bernd 03/25/2018 (Sun) 08:35:30 [Preview] No.15179 del
Fuck web designers. Bunch of faggots.

Bernd 04/10/2018 (Tue) 16:47:31 [Preview] No.15814 del
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Bernd 04/10/2018 (Tue) 19:45:38 [Preview] No.15826 del
Zuckerberg is having a chat with the Congress.
>Does Facebook has an alternative? Don't you have a monopoly?

Bernd 04/10/2018 (Tue) 19:52:16 [Preview] No.15828 del
*khm, Senate

Bernd 04/11/2018 (Wed) 16:40:06 [Preview] No.15851 del
2nd day. These are congressmen now not senators so I guess it's a committee of the HoR.
They are tearing a new asshole onto him. In comparison the one yesterday really was a chat.

Bernd 04/11/2018 (Wed) 17:15:49 [Preview] No.15852 del
I think he'll walk out of this without harm but more censorship laws will follow. One of them even made a connection with this recent FOSTAlicska

Bernd 04/11/2018 (Wed) 17:59:12 [Preview] No.15853 del
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1. "look there's a cute chick!"
2. "oh no, she has a weird face"
3. "better show something else"
4. "umm, she's all right"

Bernd 04/11/2018 (Wed) 19:09:23 [Preview] No.15854 del
why is sugarmount being questioned?

Bernd 04/11/2018 (Wed) 19:16:26 [Preview] No.15857 del
I guess because someone wants to censor the internet and they found a good pretext for this as Facebook knows everything about everyone and there's a way for others to do the sames thanks for them.
The question is why now. Net security eggsberds and Stallman knows this since forever.

Bernd 04/11/2018 (Wed) 19:57:41 [Preview] No.15860 del
So basically what's going on this hearing:
>Mr Zuckerberg, do you admit your company totally harms everyone's privacy in nine ways to Sunday? Yes or no?
<Senator/Congressman for my understanding I don't know from the top of my head I will follow up with you with my team we just might in general are totally harmless we're doing AI technology and hatespeech is bad and we ban terrorists and people can decide what they share and we'll correct everything I promise.

Bernd 04/11/2018 (Wed) 20:33:02 [Preview] No.15865 del
The thing that amazes me is how normies only just realised facebook has been doing this shit all along. The information has been out there for years.

Bernd 04/11/2018 (Wed) 20:34:17 [Preview] No.15866 del
Also just noticed you pretty much made the same post as me earlier lel

Bernd 04/11/2018 (Wed) 20:54:26 [Preview] No.15867 del
All right.
If you listened closely, at one point they were discussing about the militant buddhist terrorist regime of Myanmar terrorising innocent muslim minority.
They're bringing it out because US will invade Myanmar.

Bernd 04/12/2018 (Thu) 05:49:59 [Preview] No.15870 del
The direct cause of the hearing is that in 2015 one dude made a personality quiz app for Fb. About 100 000 people played it giving their own data away and a 100 million more people's. Or some such correct figures sure can be found elsewhere. Then this guy sold the data to Cambridge Analitica which used it to influence the 2016 presidential campaign. Previously they sent an email to Fb that they deleted the data and supposedly they put this into a contract of some form (at list Zucky said so during this hearing) but they in fact didn't. So all in all Fb did breach - or let it happen - the privacy and it's baed.

Interesting tidbit: one congressman said yesterday (2nd day) that for Trump the Fb gave 5,6-5,9 million embed (? not sure the word it sounded inbed based on the pronunciation of that guy; "sales support" was expression Zuckerberg used) while Hillary got 60-70 thousand.
While Zuckerberg was being overheard Trump geared up with loud war propaganda.
I think not.

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Bernd 11/10/2018 (Sat) 10:16:23 [Preview] No.20517 del
Try >>>/test/ next time.

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