>>21674
>>21674
picture retarded out a little.

How can you tell we ain't just choosing randomly?

All right a frank reply. Not long ago I went through this test, I see some changes were made but right now just can't be bothered to read the whole thing and give honest answers. Somewhat better then the politicaltest, there was another one, kinda difficult as it also dealt with regulating the budget (how much money should be spent on healthcare, research etc. in your ideal country or something like that) I can't remember the name now.
I'm not sure if it was a wise choice for a thread - I've seen much worse tho - , given our small numbers it will be clear soon how each of us think, what we keep important. Or not, there's always the possibility that one write such posts that doesn't reflect his personality or real opinion. Such is life on imageboards.

>>21676
>>21676
>How can you tell we ain't just choosing randomly?
I can't.

>>21677
well this imageboard we have is small but cozy I know people eventually get the know each other due to it's easy to distinguish one from each other, but if they want to express themselves they are free to.

Also I'm just bored, and the board is not too fast paced, so it's not like fucking the board up with shit threads.

>>21674
I went through a bunch of these tests before. Here's what I got.

>>21679
seems like a person that joined to beer hall putsch.

My answers on most questions were moderate, most strong responses were on a few topics in the first and third categories.

>>21688
Well for me, most of my progressive boy points come from fedora tippings and most of my conservative points I get is from saying traps are gay. I was just being rational really.

>%15 ecology
wtf, save amazons.

>>21689
>wtf, save amazons.
What's happening in the Amazon basin (and South America's central savannah, but nobody talks about it) is merely human settlement, exactly as in every single other biome in the world. People moving in, developing virgin lands, building civilization. I don't mind if its conquest continues, as long as it's done in a responsible manner (which is sadly not the case) and some chunks are preserved.
But wanting to freeze all human development and leave it in its primeval state is unrealistic, preposterous and an offense to the people who do live there. The only people who think like that are a few foreigners and upper class Southeast Brazilians, not its actual inhabitants -some of whom are my relatives.

Haha, found the earlier one.
I don't get it how I scored so high in "Essentialism" and I think it's clear having lots of over third white, middle ground areas I don't really have very strict views on stuff. Well in this particular test in this particular run. Maybe will do it again.

>>21691
>>21691
well rather than being a tree hugger hippie, I think like that because world is already overpopulated and there is no Cengiz Han or Timurlenk to fix that problem anymore ;_;

I also think this kind of developing is inefficient.

>>21698
why revolution though?

>>21699
>why revolution though?
Changing something progressively means working with the same people who get used to do things in the shit way. I believe for real change one needs drastic measures.
I know it's corny to do such thing but here's a song the composers probably made it ironically but whatever. I already posted it in the music thread tho.

However.
I also believe in Realpolitik and the reality says revolution isn't always possible and one always have to deal with the circumstances given and it's not always possible to change these.

>>21703
>with the same people who get used to do things in the shit way.
And most people are incapable of doing things differently, they always relapse.
Think about fat people, or other addicts. Us too.

>>21703
Ah, I see. By the way are you the hungarian that posts on poorchan?

>>21705
No.
Sometimes I post on Ernst, occasionally post on Kohl, and very rarely on 8/kc. I would post a little on Mewch but there's no real discussion on /int/, and now there's no Mewch.

>>21707
>>21707
Ah I see. I used to want create a imageboard that targets certain regions but I give up on that mainly due to most of our chan dwellers are newfaggot shitposters and handful of quality posters stopped lurking on chans because of it. That's why I stopped browsing our chans because serious physcological were far too common.

I wanted caucasia chan or Turkic chan which would include russia as well due to minorities I wanted caucasia chan because a chan similar to yugoslavian yuchan seemed ebin

>>21708
>caucasia chan or Turkic chan
How popular would be such board?

I found an old political compass result what I saved as "me.jpg" so I guess I did it. Before that I clearly remember my result was more toward the Authoritarian for a few squares and bit toward to the center.
I usually score "low" because I tend to chose options with "rather agree/disagree" over "absolutely agree/disagree" as for most questions I can always say: "ok I can answer this, but there can be quite a few exceptions" hence I cannot pick the absolutely agree/disagree choices.

>>22057
I think it would be popular due to serious amount of shitposters, we're not in 2013-2014 anymore, in here literal social media kiddies make up the %80 of imageboard dwellers.

>I usually score "low" because I tend to chose options with "rather agree/disagree" over "absolutely agree/disagree" as for most questions I
kinda same

for example:
>Military action that defies international law is sometimes justified.
so if I strongly agree to that, do I become just a pragmatist guy or do I become someone desiring to have non stop dictatorships?

>First-generation immigrants can never be fully integrated within their new country.
for example if I strongly agree to that I think I become more authoritarian, but in my mind I'm just stating a fact. Stating a fact does not necessarily tells others to eat shit and die or whatever.

>Abstract art that doesn’t represent anything shouldn’t be considered art at all.
I have no idea how this represents anything political at all, I guess they fell for only gnadsis dislike "abstract art" meme.

>Astrology accurately explains many things.
This belongs to smart-retarded compass.

Again, most libertarian points come from fedora tippings.

>>22095
I don't think about which answer give me what points, I just click how I feel the best. My problem is that several questions are just cannot be dealt with such simplistic way.
The political compass is also faulty in a way that it can't really deal with nationalistic ideas and just counts them toward the Authoritarian extreme. In previous discussion about this I suggested the idea of making a 3d diagram and organize the axis along the three big political ideologies: liberalism (freedom), nationalism (community) and socialism (equality).

>>21674
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/
This one looks good, and gives results based on several established ideologies.

>>22168
>anarcho-naturism
Sounds like a a good way to get various STDs from a bunch of saggy tittied, too hairy women.

>>22168
>Juche
I always knew that Best Korea had the best ideology

>>22160
>Money should represent hours of work rather than the value of the work
<8 hours of a nuclear physicist's work are worth exactly the same as 8 hours of a McDonald's temporary hire's work
Are there people who seriously believe this?

>>22172
People believe all kinds of things.
But maybe that McDonalds burger flipper makes it possible for the nuke physicist to do his job with providing food. So maybe his work even more important than the latter's.

>>22175
>Anarcha-Feminism
>Queer Anarchism
What in God's name are those ideologies.

>>22175
What are you talking about, I get many gits and shiggles.

>>22176
>>22176
mental diseases.

>>22178
Sounds plausible.

>tfw you achieve Nirvana
I'll try your test out sometime when I can be bothered to answer 117 questions I guess.

>>22183
All those 100%s. How did you manage?

>>22184
I have no idea, lel. The fact that I am now a nationalist anarchist gay feminist marxist makes me doubt the accuracy of these tests just a little.

>>22183
if anything you just proved Atatürk is not a kcmod, kek.

>>22186
>doubt the accuracy of these tests just a little.

Humans are irrational beings who love double standards and conflicting opinions. These tests just couldn't represent it.

It also hard to find an existing ideology for many combination of thought, like hardcore nationalistic anarcho-capitalism or something like this.

>>22188
True, I guess we can't expect a simple algorithm to accurately represent human thought. But maybe you could say the same about political ideologies themselves, too. For me at least it's hard to identify my thoughts with a single ideology because I can see the advantages and disadvantages of each one. But maybe that just makes me a RADICAL CENTRIST like I got in the first test >>22181
>like hardcore nationalistic anarcho-capitalism or something like this.
I actually remember reading someone trying to justify something similar to this but with libertarianism. I believe the argument was that a truly free society should be allowed the freedom to decide who is and isn't allowed to enter their society. I guess something like that could work since AnCap is pretty much a more autistic form of libertarianism anyway.
>>22190
Kek, I guess it's like combining every version of anarcho-autism into a single, extremely autistic ideology.

>>22188
>>22192
>hardcore nationalistic anarcho-capitalism
Older generations of libertarians (who later took on the "paleolibertarian" name) were very socially conservative, and Hoppe in particular has something close to this. He envisions Amish-style communities, not necessarily in the Luddite sense, just in their membership protocol:
1) Nobody is forced to join the community
2) A member can renounce his membership whenever he wants
3) An individual can only enter with the members' consent
4) A member will be booted out if he deviate's from the community's standards of behavior
It's quite similar to a state, but great emphasis is placed on the "voluntary" character of membership (see also: Liechtenstein's laws on secession).
Thus, a community of nationalists can keep out foreign ethnicities. AFAIK his infamous quote on "physical removal" is actually about the community keeping out elements it doesn't want rather than hunting down and killing people he dislikes, as is often implied. He also believes that a state with strict immigration controls is a lesser evil to a state without them.
This is compatible with ancap ethics because they're not an all-encompassing moral system, just an opposition to a set of behaviors which are deemed coercion. Hence, ancaps can combine their ideology with pretty much anything else as long as they don't enforce their particular beliefs with those actions that are considered coercitive. Even a communistic society would be compatible, as long as its membership were voluntary. There are a million practical complications to this, but the theory behind it can be understood.

RATE

RATE again

>>22200
Interesting contrast with the strong punitive justice. From the other fields (progressism and reformism mostly) I would think you'd prefer rehabilitative.

>>22202
I just don't believe in rehabilitation, it rather creates economic stress on State.

>>22203
I see.
>it rather creates economic stress on State.
Well that would depend on how rehabilitation is realized. For example I would think by accustomating the criminals to work - and finding a field they have talent in - could potentially alleviate the cost, since they were doing something productive.

>>22206
Let's say, they would be placed among horrible conditions. Then they would have to work. With their performance they could earn better accommodations, "luxury" items, better food etc. They could learn a trade beside the grunt work and get better job etc. So the value of the their production would decide how they live and would cover the cost. Something like this.

>>22200
>>22202
High essentialism also stands out.

>>22203
>>22206
I think criminals should electronic handcuffed and forced to work, it can be even cleaning forests as government dont employ people since even minimum wage is too much for them according to government.

plus, working keeps your mind busy. ora et labora motto was kinda right about keeping the soul fresh.

>>22207
It's hard to organize work for criminals, my choice is to fine minor crimes, but utilize bodies of major offenders (donarship & medical experiments).

>>22209
That's his strongest view, an exceptional one.

>>22210
>working keeps your mind busy.
Yes. Those in the system also needs to keep busy, full schedule all day.

>>22211
I would argue Soviet Union organized very easily work for "criminals".
That's an interesting use of human resource.

The problem with getting prisoners to work is that, if the state begins to manage them to turn a profit (not even a bad thought, as they become less of a burden on society and can repay the damage they've done), it then has incentives to keep them in jail for as long as possible and reduce them to slave-like conditions.

>>22228
Well then that's a punitive system. And corruption. Good example - I think I shared that article but I cannot find it - a pal of a Hungarian minister got prisoners to work on his fields for free earning some tidy profit in the end.
But you really have a hard time not to think of the state as a third party. With time I hope.

>>22200
Can you do this one?:
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/

>>22230
RATE

>>22229
Even a completely selfless state could do that. It's just a matter of what society wants to do with the criminals it has placed under arrest, and wheter it accepts placing a burden on public property and public finances to help people who have already damaged them. Sometimes society doesn't care at all and just wants punishment.

>>22195
I guess this is one of the problems with anarchism, it will always evolve into something resolving a state anyway because that's just human nature. Though in that sense it would be a voluntary social contract, so most anarchists would approve.

I think an anarchist system would probably evolve eventually into something like medieval Europe where there are lots of small, local states rather than a unified all-encompassing one that most countries have now, escpecially if it was an AnCap system with the focus on land ownership since a king is essentially just a large-scale landowner anyway.
>>22232
Wew lad I haven't even heard of any of those on the left.

>>22232
More fun at every turn.

>>22233
>Sometimes society doesn't care at all and just wants punishment.
But when it wants rehabilitative justice system it doesn't want punitive. Even among our conditions here we could create one which is similar what I described.

>>21674
If you are really CIA then you already know my political leanings.

>>22242
>>22234
Lol, bros, check out muh State.

>>22247
That is very similar to the test I don't remember the name of. It was too fiddly to done and I believe most things there should be constantly adjusted as circumstances change.

>>22212
>I would argue Soviet Union organized very easily work for "criminals".
And afterwards these criminals were freed, and now they're still doing the same, returned back to their nature. So, I suppose, rehabilitation practice failed.

>>22249
That wasn't rehabilitation, I have never argued it was.

>>22232
>>22243
>>22247
If you guys really are from these nations what kind of hats would be considered typical, characteristic hats in your countries? Can be traditional, or a very distinctive hat of a famous local person. Examples would be welcomed.

>>22247
kc tier, which test?

W I R
K O M M E N
W I E D E R

>>22257
That's the worst place to start the game, but here.

>>22252
Here's what Latvian wear.

>>22267
Actually, have jail time for obscenity there.

>>22267
how to take screenshot of all page?

>>22269
Just zoom out.

My ideal englightening monarchist state.

r8 and subscribe

>>22265
This just too fiddly for me right now.

https://www.idrlabs.com/villain/test.php
Not a political test but a test nonetheless. I got King Rooster.

also here's another test
http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=PhilosophyGuys
It's short. Not political but I think still relavant to the board. Will show how much you agree with certain philosophers and they are: Aquinas, Augustine, Aristotle, Plato, Kant, Hume, Nietzsche, Protagoras and Sextus Empiricus (those last two I don't think I ever heard of them).

Errr...

>>23820
>Aquinas 100%
>Nietzsche 0%
Papież would be proud.

>>23815
>Scientific Research
By reading your posts I find 1th, 2nd, 4th, 5th points probably true, I can't judge the others, that would need interactions in person.

>>23824
Kinda feels liek astrology. It gives descriptions accurate enough to say it fits but if we look closer it is too vague. Just reading both of yours I find things that fits to my personality and I find my result somewhat true and somewhat false.

Additional characteristics:

Pragmatism: politics objectively boil down to looking at where the problems are and trying to solve them according to the means available.

>>23826
We look like a bunch of /pol/tards here srsly.

>>23827
Pretty sure my devotion to progressism disqualifies me as a stereotypical /pol/tard. I appear to be faintly to the left, but in the sense of "make things better slowly over time," not up against the wall motherfucker, nor viva la revolution.

Fatherland? I ain't so interested in parading down the street in jackboots celebrating the glory of the state and the virtuous culture of its people. I am more locally focused than globally interested though. That's what earns me the "fatherland" moniker, I believe.

The only real issue I take with my result being a feeling that regulationism is over represented. I mistrust devotion to purely public or private solutions. One needs a bit of both to keep things honest. I am biased in favor of regulation over laissez-faire, just not so much as shown.

That "pragmatic" comment's a fair cop. If anything, I'm proud of that label.

>>23824
Good personality.
But it is based not on the real Speer but on the Speer icon he masterfully crafted over the years. He was actually not as aloof as he painted himself and quite image savvy, molding popular opinion to his will. His armaments miracle, though not false, was a joint economic-propaganda project and had critical issues. And later on, like Manstein and other generals, he grealy exaggerated his distance from Hitler and his status as just an un-ideological genius tirelessly working on the task he was given.

>>23827
Not really, it's a varied selection.

>>23823
Posts on an imageboard give a lot of hints, but are an incomplete expression of a personality. They're made from a narrow range of contexts (free time), over a narrow range of topics (kc tier themes) and to a narrow range of receivers (Bernds). Elsewhere Bernds can write or speak in completely different ways.
But reading a lot of posts and making guesses is still a better method of personality interpretation than any test like this. Like you've said, it's astrology. Point #6 hardly applies to me, I'm often naive.

What exactly does constructivism versus existentialism mean?

>>23835
That's essentialism. Some questions inquire if you think stuff inherently are what they are, for example negers are lazy because they are negers. Well not this heavy handedly.

>>23834
>Not really, it's a varied selection.
True, but it's also a pretty autistic selection.

>>23888
are you me?

Who else /Hitler/ here?

>>23914
Doing the test now.

oh

>>23921
"Murderous villains" can't be extroverts they mostly hide their nature, even for those who seem to be social that is just an act which they use to manipulate people so they can reach their own goals. No?

>>23923
No, extroversion mostly refers to people who happen to be more social or have an easier time reaching out to people. Most people have secrets or information or underhanded motivations they'd rather keep to themselves. Extroverts just have an easier time filling in conversational gaps while introverts would just rather not, or they just can't. For example, there's Ted Bundy who managed to have a healthy social life and professional career even while being a killer. Compare that to someone like Ed Gein who was remembered as reclusive and strange. A social killer is as extroverted as a social person since both can hold secrets and may engage in social behavior for underhanded purposes (i.e. the social person may cheat on a spouse or maybe they have a disease they can't bring up in polite conversation)
Also someone here got Mao and the test classified him as an extrovert.

Haha, wtf?!
I remember doing this test previously but where I saved the result is a mystery. No doubt it was different.

Apparently Che Guevara is one of the possible results -quite fitting. And I wonder what Bin Laden's personality result is.

>>23826
Also took the philosophy test for shits and giggles.

Kant (100%)
Aquinas (88%)
Aristotle (75%)
Augustine (75%)
Plato (75%)
Hume (13%)
Nietzsche (0%)
Protagoras (0%)
Sextus Empiricus (0%)

Be making me out to sound like a bit of a cunt, no?

I just voted for the Finnish Pirate Party in our parliamentary elections

>>24667
Oh yeah, I forgot you guys had to have a snap election. Would you write a summary of it in the politics thread?