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Bernd 12/27/2018 (Thu) 20:05:08 [Preview] No. 21674
I'm from CIA and I'm here to see your political leanings.

http://www.politiscales.net/en_US/

take the test, r8 and subscribe.


Bernd 12/27/2018 (Thu) 20:11:03 [Preview] No.21675 del
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>>21674
>>21674
picture retarded out a little.


Bernd 12/27/2018 (Thu) 20:20:32 [Preview] No.21676 del
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How can you tell we ain't just choosing randomly?


Bernd 12/27/2018 (Thu) 20:31:29 [Preview] No.21677 del
All right a frank reply. Not long ago I went through this test, I see some changes were made but right now just can't be bothered to read the whole thing and give honest answers. Somewhat better then the politicaltest, there was another one, kinda difficult as it also dealt with regulating the budget (how much money should be spent on healthcare, research etc. in your ideal country or something like that) I can't remember the name now.
I'm not sure if it was a wise choice for a thread - I've seen much worse tho - , given our small numbers it will be clear soon how each of us think, what we keep important. Or not, there's always the possibility that one write such posts that doesn't reflect his personality or real opinion. Such is life on imageboards.


Bernd 12/27/2018 (Thu) 20:41:50 [Preview] No.21678 del
>>21676
>>21676
>How can you tell we ain't just choosing randomly?
I can't.

>>21677
well this imageboard we have is small but cozy I know people eventually get the know each other due to it's easy to distinguish one from each other, but if they want to express themselves they are free to.

Also I'm just bored, and the board is not too fast paced, so it's not like fucking the board up with shit threads.


Bernd 12/27/2018 (Thu) 21:04:16 [Preview] No.21679 del
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>>21674
I went through a bunch of these tests before. Here's what I got.


Bernd 12/27/2018 (Thu) 21:12:23 [Preview] No.21680 del
>>21679
seems like a person that joined to beer hall putsch.


Bernd 12/28/2018 (Fri) 00:13:45 [Preview] No.21688 del
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My answers on most questions were moderate, most strong responses were on a few topics in the first and third categories.


Bernd 12/28/2018 (Fri) 00:19:41 [Preview] No.21689 del
>>21688
Well for me, most of my progressive boy points come from fedora tippings and most of my conservative points I get is from saying traps are gay. I was just being rational really.

>%15 ecology
wtf, save amazons.


Bernd 12/28/2018 (Fri) 01:34:20 [Preview] No.21691 del
>>21689
>wtf, save amazons.
What's happening in the Amazon basin (and South America's central savannah, but nobody talks about it) is merely human settlement, exactly as in every single other biome in the world. People moving in, developing virgin lands, building civilization. I don't mind if its conquest continues, as long as it's done in a responsible manner (which is sadly not the case) and some chunks are preserved.
But wanting to freeze all human development and leave it in its primeval state is unrealistic, preposterous and an offense to the people who do live there. The only people who think like that are a few foreigners and upper class Southeast Brazilians, not its actual inhabitants -some of whom are my relatives.


Bernd 12/28/2018 (Fri) 08:00:04 [Preview] No.21698 del
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Haha, found the earlier one.
I don't get it how I scored so high in "Essentialism" and I think it's clear having lots of over third white, middle ground areas I don't really have very strict views on stuff. Well in this particular test in this particular run. Maybe will do it again.


Bernd 12/28/2018 (Fri) 11:47:07 [Preview] No.21699 del
>>21691
>>21691
well rather than being a tree hugger hippie, I think like that because world is already overpopulated and there is no Cengiz Han or Timurlenk to fix that problem anymore ;_;

I also think this kind of developing is inefficient.

>>21698
why revolution though?


Bernd 12/28/2018 (Fri) 15:26:45 [Preview] No.21703 del
>>21699
>why revolution though?
Changing something progressively means working with the same people who get used to do things in the shit way. I believe for real change one needs drastic measures.
I know it's corny to do such thing but here's a song the composers probably made it ironically but whatever. I already posted it in the music thread tho.

However.
I also believe in Realpolitik and the reality says revolution isn't always possible and one always have to deal with the circumstances given and it's not always possible to change these.


fix Bernd 12/28/2018 (Fri) 15:46:54 [Preview] No.21704 del
>>21703
>with the same people who get used to do things in the shit way.
And most people are incapable of doing things differently, they always relapse.
Think about fat people, or other addicts. Us too.


Bernd 12/28/2018 (Fri) 15:52:46 [Preview] No.21705 del
>>21703
Ah, I see. By the way are you the hungarian that posts on poorchan?


Bernd 12/28/2018 (Fri) 16:33:10 [Preview] No.21707 del
>>21705
No.
Sometimes I post on Ernst, occasionally post on Kohl, and very rarely on 8/kc. I would post a little on Mewch but there's no real discussion on /int/, and now there's no Mewch.


Bernd 12/28/2018 (Fri) 16:43:04 [Preview] No.21708 del
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>>21707
>>21707
Ah I see. I used to want create a imageboard that targets certain regions but I give up on that mainly due to most of our chan dwellers are newfaggot shitposters and handful of quality posters stopped lurking on chans because of it. That's why I stopped browsing our chans because serious physcological were far too common.

I wanted caucasia chan or Turkic chan which would include russia as well due to minorities I wanted caucasia chan because a chan similar to yugoslavian yuchan seemed ebin


Bernd 01/04/2019 (Fri) 19:33:10 [Preview] No.22057 del
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>>21708
>caucasia chan or Turkic chan
How popular would be such board?

I found an old political compass result what I saved as "me.jpg" so I guess I did it. Before that I clearly remember my result was more toward the Authoritarian for a few squares and bit toward to the center.
I usually score "low" because I tend to chose options with "rather agree/disagree" over "absolutely agree/disagree" as for most questions I can always say: "ok I can answer this, but there can be quite a few exceptions" hence I cannot pick the absolutely agree/disagree choices.


Bernd 01/06/2019 (Sun) 12:28:08 [Preview] No.22095 del
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>>22057
I think it would be popular due to serious amount of shitposters, we're not in 2013-2014 anymore, in here literal social media kiddies make up the %80 of imageboard dwellers.

>I usually score "low" because I tend to chose options with "rather agree/disagree" over "absolutely agree/disagree" as for most questions I
kinda same

for example:
>Military action that defies international law is sometimes justified.
so if I strongly agree to that, do I become just a pragmatist guy or do I become someone desiring to have non stop dictatorships?

>First-generation immigrants can never be fully integrated within their new country.
for example if I strongly agree to that I think I become more authoritarian, but in my mind I'm just stating a fact. Stating a fact does not necessarily tells others to eat shit and die or whatever.

>Abstract art that doesn’t represent anything shouldn’t be considered art at all.
I have no idea how this represents anything political at all, I guess they fell for only gnadsis dislike "abstract art" meme.

>Astrology accurately explains many things.
This belongs to smart-retarded compass.

Again, most libertarian points come from fedora tippings.


Bernd 01/06/2019 (Sun) 13:48:23 [Preview] No.22099 del
>>22095
I don't think about which answer give me what points, I just click how I feel the best. My problem is that several questions are just cannot be dealt with such simplistic way.
The political compass is also faulty in a way that it can't really deal with nationalistic ideas and just counts them toward the Authoritarian extreme. In previous discussion about this I suggested the idea of making a 3d diagram and organize the axis along the three big political ideologies: liberalism (freedom), nationalism (community) and socialism (equality).


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 08:00:29 [Preview] No.22160 del
>>21674
http://www.politicalsextant.com/quiz/
This one looks good, and gives results based on several established ideologies.


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 16:53:00 [Preview] No.22167 del
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>>22160
I approve of that test, comrade.
>national-anarchism
>88
Ebin.


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 17:00:28 [Preview] No.22168 del
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Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 17:08:51 [Preview] No.22170 del
>>22168
>anarcho-naturism
Sounds like a a good way to get various STDs from a bunch of saggy tittied, too hairy women.


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 17:29:12 [Preview] No.22171 del
>>22168
>Juche
I always knew that Best Korea had the best ideology


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 17:46:08 [Preview] No.22172 del
>>22160
>Money should represent hours of work rather than the value of the work
<8 hours of a nuclear physicist's work are worth exactly the same as 8 hours of a McDonald's temporary hire's work
Are there people who seriously believe this?


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 17:55:09 [Preview] No.22174 del
>>22172
People believe all kinds of things.
But maybe that McDonalds burger flipper makes it possible for the nuke physicist to do his job with providing food. So maybe his work even more important than the latter's.


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 17:55:25 [Preview] No.22175 del
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I'm not a fan of these tests.


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 17:58:22 [Preview] No.22176 del
>>22175
>Anarcha-Feminism
>Queer Anarchism
What in God's name are those ideologies.


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 18:04:38 [Preview] No.22177 del
>>22175
What are you talking about, I get many gits and shiggles.


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 18:16:21 [Preview] No.22178 del
>>22176
>>22176
mental diseases.


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 18:21:37 [Preview] No.22180 del
>>22178
Sounds plausible.


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 18:31:52 [Preview] No.22181 del
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>tfw you achieve Nirvana
I'll try your test out sometime when I can be bothered to answer 117 questions I guess.


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 19:49:25 [Preview] No.22183 del
>>22181
So I guess I'm an edgy anarchist now.
>Kemalism -33%
Sorry T*rkbro.


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 20:07:27 [Preview] No.22184 del
>>22183
All those 100%s. How did you manage?


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 21:37:11 [Preview] No.22186 del
>>22184
I have no idea, lel. The fact that I am now a nationalist anarchist gay feminist marxist makes me doubt the accuracy of these tests just a little.


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 22:57:46 [Preview] No.22187 del
>>22183
if anything you just proved Atatürk is not a kcmod, kek.


Bernd 01/08/2019 (Tue) 23:00:19 [Preview] No.22188 del
>>22186
>doubt the accuracy of these tests just a little.

Humans are irrational beings who love double standards and conflicting opinions. These tests just couldn't represent it.

It also hard to find an existing ideology for many combination of thought, like hardcore nationalistic anarcho-capitalism or something like this.


Bernd 01/09/2019 (Wed) 01:46:37 [Preview] No.22190 del
>>22186
A nationalist gay feminist capitalist marxist monarchistic anarchist, to be exact.


Bernd 01/09/2019 (Wed) 14:21:03 [Preview] No.22192 del
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>>22188
True, I guess we can't expect a simple algorithm to accurately represent human thought. But maybe you could say the same about political ideologies themselves, too. For me at least it's hard to identify my thoughts with a single ideology because I can see the advantages and disadvantages of each one. But maybe that just makes me a RADICAL CENTRIST like I got in the first test >>22181
>like hardcore nationalistic anarcho-capitalism or something like this.
I actually remember reading someone trying to justify something similar to this but with libertarianism. I believe the argument was that a truly free society should be allowed the freedom to decide who is and isn't allowed to enter their society. I guess something like that could work since AnCap is pretty much a more autistic form of libertarianism anyway.
>>22190
Kek, I guess it's like combining every version of anarcho-autism into a single, extremely autistic ideology.


Bernd 01/09/2019 (Wed) 15:30:46 [Preview] No.22195 del
>>22188
>>22192
>hardcore nationalistic anarcho-capitalism
Older generations of libertarians (who later took on the "paleolibertarian" name) were very socially conservative, and Hoppe in particular has something close to this. He envisions Amish-style communities, not necessarily in the Luddite sense, just in their membership protocol:
1) Nobody is forced to join the community
2) A member can renounce his membership whenever he wants
3) An individual can only enter with the members' consent
4) A member will be booted out if he deviate's from the community's standards of behavior
It's quite similar to a state, but great emphasis is placed on the "voluntary" character of membership (see also: Liechtenstein's laws on secession).
Thus, a community of nationalists can keep out foreign ethnicities. AFAIK his infamous quote on "physical removal" is actually about the community keeping out elements it doesn't want rather than hunting down and killing people he dislikes, as is often implied. He also believes that a state with strict immigration controls is a lesser evil to a state without them.
This is compatible with ancap ethics because they're not an all-encompassing moral system, just an opposition to a set of behaviors which are deemed coercion. Hence, ancaps can combine their ideology with pretty much anything else as long as they don't enforce their particular beliefs with those actions that are considered coercitive. Even a communistic society would be compatible, as long as its membership were voluntary. There are a million practical complications to this, but the theory behind it can be understood.


Bernd 01/09/2019 (Wed) 17:37:33 [Preview] No.22199 del
RATE


Bernd 01/09/2019 (Wed) 17:38:32 [Preview] No.22200 del
RATE again


Bernd 01/09/2019 (Wed) 17:41:28 [Preview] No.22202 del
>>22200
Interesting contrast with the strong punitive justice. From the other fields (progressism and reformism mostly) I would think you'd prefer rehabilitative.


Bernd 01/09/2019 (Wed) 17:45:34 [Preview] No.22203 del
>>22202
I just don't believe in rehabilitation, it rather creates economic stress on State.


Bernd 01/09/2019 (Wed) 17:52:32 [Preview] No.22206 del
>>22203
I see.
>it rather creates economic stress on State.
Well that would depend on how rehabilitation is realized. For example I would think by accustomating the criminals to work - and finding a field they have talent in - could potentially alleviate the cost, since they were doing something productive.


cont. Bernd 01/09/2019 (Wed) 17:57:13 [Preview] No.22207 del
>>22206
Let's say, they would be placed among horrible conditions. Then they would have to work. With their performance they could earn better accommodations, "luxury" items, better food etc. They could learn a trade beside the grunt work and get better job etc. So the value of the their production would decide how they live and would cover the cost. Something like this.


Bernd 01/09/2019 (Wed) 18:11:44 [Preview] No.22209 del
>>22200
>>22202
High essentialism also stands out.


Bernd 01/09/2019 (Wed) 18:15:23 [Preview] No.22210 del
>>22203
>>22206
I think criminals should electronic handcuffed and forced to work, it can be even cleaning forests as government dont employ people since even minimum wage is too much for them according to government.

plus, working keeps your mind busy. ora et labora motto was kinda right about keeping the soul fresh.


Bernd 01/09/2019 (Wed) 19:15:37 [Preview] No.22211 del
>>22207
It's hard to organize work for criminals, my choice is to fine minor crimes, but utilize bodies of major offenders (donarship & medical experiments).


Bernd 01/09/2019 (Wed) 20:09:29 [Preview] No.22212 del
>>22209
That's his strongest view, an exceptional one.

>>22210
>working keeps your mind busy.
Yes. Those in the system also needs to keep busy, full schedule all day.

>>22211
I would argue Soviet Union organized very easily work for "criminals".
That's an interesting use of human resource.


Bernd 01/09/2019 (Wed) 23:05:16 [Preview] No.22228 del
The problem with getting prisoners to work is that, if the state begins to manage them to turn a profit (not even a bad thought, as they become less of a burden on society and can repay the damage they've done), it then has incentives to keep them in jail for as long as possible and reduce them to slave-like conditions.


Bernd 01/10/2019 (Thu) 06:13:45 [Preview] No.22229 del
>>22228
Well then that's a punitive system. And corruption. Good example - I think I shared that article but I cannot find it - a pal of a Hungarian minister got prisoners to work on his fields for free earning some tidy profit in the end.
But you really have a hard time not to think of the state as a third party. With time I hope.


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Bernd 01/10/2019 (Thu) 09:56:31 [Preview] No.22233 del
>>22229
Even a completely selfless state could do that. It's just a matter of what society wants to do with the criminals it has placed under arrest, and wheter it accepts placing a burden on public property and public finances to help people who have already damaged them. Sometimes society doesn't care at all and just wants punishment.


Bernd 01/10/2019 (Thu) 16:16:55 [Preview] No.22234 del
>>22195
I guess this is one of the problems with anarchism, it will always evolve into something resolving a state anyway because that's just human nature. Though in that sense it would be a voluntary social contract, so most anarchists would approve.

I think an anarchist system would probably evolve eventually into something like medieval Europe where there are lots of small, local states rather than a unified all-encompassing one that most countries have now, escpecially if it was an AnCap system with the focus on land ownership since a king is essentially just a large-scale landowner anyway.
>>22232
Wew lad I haven't even heard of any of those on the left.


Bernd 01/10/2019 (Thu) 16:44:02 [Preview] No.22242 del
>>22232
More fun at every turn.

>>22233
>Sometimes society doesn't care at all and just wants punishment.
But when it wants rehabilitative justice system it doesn't want punitive. Even among our conditions here we could create one which is similar what I described.


Bernd 01/10/2019 (Thu) 16:44:25 [Preview] No.22243 del
>>21674
If you are really CIA then you already know my political leanings.


Bernd 01/10/2019 (Thu) 18:11:26 [Preview] No.22247 del
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>>22242
>>22234
Lol, bros, check out muh State.


Bernd 01/10/2019 (Thu) 18:29:53 [Preview] No.22248 del
>>22247
That is very similar to the test I don't remember the name of. It was too fiddly to done and I believe most things there should be constantly adjusted as circumstances change.


Bernd 01/10/2019 (Thu) 18:31:41 [Preview] No.22249 del
>>22212
>I would argue Soviet Union organized very easily work for "criminals".
And afterwards these criminals were freed, and now they're still doing the same, returned back to their nature. So, I suppose, rehabilitation practice failed.


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Bernd 01/10/2019 (Thu) 18:52:54 [Preview] No.22251 del
>>22249
That wasn't rehabilitation, I have never argued it was.


Bernd 01/10/2019 (Thu) 20:33:31 [Preview] No.22252 del
>>22232
>>22243
>>22247
If you guys really are from these nations what kind of hats would be considered typical, characteristic hats in your countries? Can be traditional, or a very distinctive hat of a famous local person. Examples would be welcomed.


Bernd 01/10/2019 (Thu) 23:56:04 [Preview] No.22254 del
>>22247
kc tier, which test?


Bernd 01/11/2019 (Fri) 05:57:51 [Preview] No.22257 del
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W I R
K O M M E N
W I E D E R


Bernd 01/11/2019 (Fri) 06:18:54 [Preview] No.22261 del
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>>22257
That's the worst place to start the game, but here.


Bernd 01/11/2019 (Fri) 06:38:40 [Preview] No.22264 del
>>22252
Here's what Latvian wear.


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Bernd 01/11/2019 (Fri) 08:16:38 [Preview] No.22268 del
>>22267
Actually, have jail time for obscenity there.


Bernd 01/11/2019 (Fri) 11:18:50 [Preview] No.22269 del
>>22267
how to take screenshot of all page?


Bernd 01/11/2019 (Fri) 11:24:00 [Preview] No.22270 del
>>22269
Just zoom out.


Bernd 01/11/2019 (Fri) 11:45:10 [Preview] No.22271 del
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My ideal englightening monarchist state.

r8 and subscribe


Bernd 01/11/2019 (Fri) 12:24:36 [Preview] No.22274 del
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>>22271
>secularist, blasphemy allowed
>escorts are okay with a license
>central bank
>gun control
>abortion
>unrestricted selling of alcohol
>that much allocation to military


Bernd 01/11/2019 (Fri) 18:12:36 [Preview] No.22280 del
>>22265
This just too fiddly for me right now.



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