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Bernd 09/18/2018 (Tue) 11:39:51 [Preview] No. 19362
> "He got tazer!"
> Shot him


Bernd 09/18/2018 (Tue) 11:45:45 [Preview] No.19363 del
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dog bless


Bernd 09/18/2018 (Tue) 11:46:19 [Preview] No.19364 del
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> naked nigga with no guns comming at you
> prophylactical shot


Bernd 09/18/2018 (Tue) 12:05:59 [Preview] No.19365 del
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> be bulgar
> get teamkilled


Bernd 09/18/2018 (Tue) 12:13:02 [Preview] No.19366 del
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The day, when tousands dead innocent people get justified


Bernd 09/18/2018 (Tue) 12:33:39 [Preview] No.19368 del
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>>19366
>tfw you will never get shot by a qt American grill


Bernd 10/25/2018 (Thu) 15:43:34 [Preview] No.20266 del
Haha, how come I missed this thread?


Bernd 10/25/2018 (Thu) 15:54:00 [Preview] No.20268 del
>>20266
same lol
also at least it's not anglo or swedish police


Bernd 10/25/2018 (Thu) 16:52:37 [Preview] No.20274 del
>>19364
Did he got a shot into his chest?
Back in the day I had psychology class and the prof talked about how getting the aggression out of one's system via violence is bullshit as bunch of stabbing case show many wounds instead of one and clearly the rage of the perp wasn't quenched by the first stab. I believe the prof was full of shit for two reasons:
1. immersing into violence works, only the angry person have to tire himself out with it
2. stabbing ain't work like in movies where one stab leads to instant death, irl one needs many stabs (if doesn't know where to stab but this needs cool heda) to kill someone or the vic's agony gets long or even survive the stabbing.

>>19365
Fukin retards seriously.

>>19366
There was some stat about how many times armed civilians stop crime to happen.

I also had some vids relevant I think. Will try to dig out them.


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>>20274
>There was some stat about how many times armed civilians stop crime to happen.
I've saved some infographs on this subject from /k/.


Bernd 10/26/2018 (Fri) 01:42:20 [Preview] No.20282 del
>>19364
The cops need better and more potent handguns.


Bernd 10/26/2018 (Fri) 05:33:59 [Preview] No.20283 del
>>20279
Thanks.
Am I alone in thinking that "almost committed crime" category is little too elastic to be reliable? Something can only be a crime after the fact, and before it happens it isn't easy to judge a situation would really develop into a crime.


Bernd 10/26/2018 (Fri) 05:34:42 [Preview] No.20284 del
>>20283
Btw that webm isn't an illustration to my post, just an addition to the thread.


Bernd 10/26/2018 (Fri) 07:45:56 [Preview] No.20286 del
>>19362
At 15 sec they literally shot the shoe off his foot and it flew 8m behind him.

>>20282
"Allah akbar, allah akbar, allah aarghh, argh, argh, allah argh, argh" haha.


Bernd 10/26/2018 (Fri) 15:28:25 [Preview] No.20291 del
Cleveland cops shot this guy in the stomach, and he got up and began attacking them again.


Bernd 10/26/2018 (Fri) 16:33:13 [Preview] No.20293 del
>>20283
That scene looks and hears fucking ridiculous. At each moment I was expecting it to turn into a comedy gag: Now with your left index finger and touch your right earlobe while singing the national anthem and jumping on your right foot...


Bernd 10/26/2018 (Fri) 16:58:47 [Preview] No.20298 del
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>>20283
This sanctioned murderer should be behind bars now, and he walked free.


Bernd 10/26/2018 (Fri) 17:07:58 [Preview] No.20300 del
>>20291
You posted that just above. :^)


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>>20300
I'm losing it. Sorry


Bernd 10/27/2018 (Sat) 05:24:05 [Preview] No.20307 del
>>20305
You can use .xyz now, you'll get your ball back.

>>20293
>>20298
The instructions weren't even clear.
>crawl forward!
Generally people crawl on their four limbs.


Bernd 10/27/2018 (Sat) 05:42:20 [Preview] No.20308 del
>>20307
I was talking to a police acquaintance about it and he even seemed to think the guy was gonna hang. Basically since they had 2-3 guns trained on him anyway as long as he was down with his hands on his head there was no reason to make him do the whole crawling bit, according to the guy I spoke to about it anyway.
The cop in question will probably never work as a cop again though so that might be a good thing?


Bernd 10/27/2018 (Sat) 13:31:32 [Preview] No.20309 del
>>20308
I'm happy he got fired, and will never get a Police Officer position anywhere again, but 20 years behind bars would have been a fitting punishment at least.


Bernd 10/27/2018 (Sat) 13:35:47 [Preview] No.20310 del
>>20308
It's clear the dude was scared shitless. If I recall it correctly I read on Wikipedia that he was drunk as well. It does seemed he wanted to please the officer I would say even a little too eagerly and assumed things he should do the officer didn't even say. The cop didn't recognize this.
Ofc they got a call that someone shooting with a rifle from that apartment (turned out to be a BB gun) so it could be supposed the dude might have a pistol or something on him as well. But by the looks of that two I can tell from this shitty video alone they're just some fools and not killer psychos. Maybe deserved a good scare and black eye but not this.
Compared to the other videos with negers chimping out their behaviour is extremely timid and cooperative.
I dunno what's my point here maybe that the cop had no idea how to handle this thing beside violence.
He should have realize the dude can't follow his instructions as he had to stop him and restart everything over and over a few times. Maybe he just had to command the dude to stay put laying on his stomach his hand on his head with fingers weaved together and go there and handcuff him.
But since they wanted to get into the apartment and he didn't trusted his answer that noone in there maybe he didn't see it as an option to just walk right up to the door where he was laying. Still they don't look like someone who have armed to the teeth friends hiding and waiting to strike and ambush policemen.
Now I'm just rambling coz I can't make sense of that video.


Bernd 10/28/2018 (Sun) 07:12:53 [Preview] No.20325 del
>>20310
Yeah, the officer definitely had some sort of anger issues or authoritative complex. During the internal investigation they found his service rifle had YOU'RE FUCKED engraved into it.


Bernd 10/28/2018 (Sun) 13:02:38 [Preview] No.20327 del
>>20310
In order for such a situation to flow smoothly, a degree of trust between the policeman and the approached is required. 70 years ago that would have been possible in America, but now it is a low-trust society. That police unit was likely used to facing genuinely dangerous individuals and acted in an accordingly paranoid manner. Such is life in a low-trust society: well-meaning people are prevented from being helpful and innocents get harmed.
Even then, a sane and professional cop could perhaps have overcome pressure, interpreted the situation and realized he wasn't facing a threatening individual. But this man's unstable mind tipped the scales and made it a tragedy.


Bernd 10/28/2018 (Sun) 14:56:59 [Preview] No.20330 del
>>20325
>>20327
My thoughts are returning to this video time to times and things comes to my mind such:
1. How confused/scared was the dude it took a while to him to decide which one is his left leg.
2. At the end he really put his right hand behind his back, or at least he started to. Why did he do that? And previously he put both back. Hindsight we know he hadn't had a gun so why did he do it? I guess he had some vague notion - from movies for example - how an arrest goes down, so he might been put his arms back because he waited to be handcuffed, and in the end as well. He thought he can lay down the ground and they will put on the cuffs.
3. Many people really can't follow simple instructions or can be perplexed with simple things. I have two experience with this.
3a. In school I witnessed many times that a teacher asked something extremely simple or obvious from a student who couldn't answer and it felt like he can't believe the teacher asked that and suspected some trick in the question.
3b. Not long ago I saw aquaintance telling his kid to do something who didn't because he didn't want to and the dad left his kid to do what he wanted to and didn't forced his own will on the kid. Then I interjected for a moment and asked the kid - I confess, unkindly but angry - why he doesn't do what his father tells him. His only job is to do just that. Then the kid started to cry and asked forgiveness from his father, that he was sorry. Still in the end he didn't have to do what his dad asked (which was really a simple thing, like "pick up that can!"). Many times I see such scenes when kids shat on what their parents say who left the whole thing at it. No consequences. At one level ofc this way the kids learn to be disobedient and at another level they learn not to follow simple instructions.
4. When was this? Before or after the Las Vegas hotel shooter? If after could this generate some excitement/fear in the cops as they could assume they will confront another one?
5. stuff
Extrapolate your onions.


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Bernd 10/31/2018 (Wed) 18:41:15 [Preview] No.20396 del
>>20386
>dual wielding


Bernd 10/31/2018 (Wed) 19:23:12 [Preview] No.20397 del
>>20396
Badass.


Bernd 11/03/2018 (Sat) 07:33:52 [Preview] No.20435 del
What is school shootin?
Here's a list:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/02/us/school-shootings-2018-list-trnd/index.html
Just started reading and I found:
>A person was shot on the campus of Savannah State University and taken to a nearby hospital where he later died. Neither the victim nor the shooter were university students
>A 15-year-old boy was shot in the head and a 15-year-old girl shot in the wrist at Sal Castro Middle School in Los Angeles, officials said. Two other students were grazed by bullets. A 12-year-old girl was booked for negligent discharge of a firearm in that shooting, which was considered "unintentional," Los Angeles police said.
>A fight led to a shooting in the parking lot of Lincoln High School, fatally wounding a 32-year-old man.
It's liek when that police shooting statistics includes instances when the officer committed suicide. "Hardly the case what we're talking about!"


Bernd 11/03/2018 (Sat) 07:51:29 [Preview] No.20436 del
>>20435
Oh the criterion are just in the beginning. All right. The list's parameters are inadequate to define an acceptable category of school shooting.


Bernd 11/14/2018 (Wed) 19:03:05 [Preview] No.20586 del
>>20279
I wanted to look up some source on those informationals and I found this site:
http://www.gunfacts.info/
Basically all the things are just copypastes from there.
But I managed to check the source of one "Fact" (2 500 000 Defensive Gun Use per year), "the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Kleck and Gertz, Fall 1995". The note itself is inaccurate as the real source is just an article, a study published in that journal and they didn't note the title of that article. Findable ofc, with simple search the journal will be among the first finds, and from there one can spot the names of the authors and the document is freely downloadable. Pdf related. Engaging read, and the "Fact" seems legit.


Bernd 11/14/2018 (Wed) 19:10:00 [Preview] No.20587 del
>>20586
Fact: This webpage looks like it was setup up by the gun lobby


Bernd 11/14/2018 (Wed) 19:13:53 [Preview] No.20590 del
>>20587
It really does look like.
This is why I was curious about the sources. It is only one source I examined but chosen somewhat randomly and that one looks all right.


Bernd 11/14/2018 (Wed) 19:15:10 [Preview] No.20591 del
>>20590
Now am lying, because I was curious as the informational was taken from /k/ and those dudes are really love their raifus.


Bernd 11/16/2018 (Fri) 01:35:40 [Preview] No.20610 del
>>20587
Maybe it was just made by activists fighting for their gun rights.
According to their "About" page, it receives no funding from organizations such as the NRA.

>>20591
/k/ can be very serious and meticulous at times. When an engineering topic is under discussion, it's common to find at least one poster with knowledge in the specific field.


Bernd 11/17/2018 (Sat) 06:22:30 [Preview] No.20623 del
>>20610
My favourite line on that site can be found in the "Children and Guns" section under the "Myth: Guns in America spark youth violence":
>Thus we have a violence problem – not a “gun” problem.


Bernd 11/20/2018 (Tue) 14:33:07 [Preview] No.20669 del
>>20623
>Thus we have a violence problem – not a “gun” problem.
Honestly there could be some truth to that. We have the same "youth violence" problem in London right now but with knives instead of guns. That's more of a black people problem, though.


Bernd 11/20/2018 (Tue) 20:35:33 [Preview] No.20676 del
>>20669
Have similar problems with Gypsies. Back in the state socialism a group of typical violent crimes (or the method how they were committed) were belonged to a category of "Gypsy crimes" because almost exclusively were committed by gypsies. Now it's banned as it's not PC, also it's illegal to record by the cops the criminals ethnicity...
Frankly Hungary would be much, much safer without them.


Bernd 11/20/2018 (Tue) 21:13:53 [Preview] No.20678 del
>>20676
I didn't think you'd have the same problems thanks to le based totally not cucked Orbán. I guess us h'wite people are all the same in the end.


Bernd 11/21/2018 (Wed) 06:51:21 [Preview] No.20679 del
>>20678
Problems are the same, the name is different. I would say at least they are Christian - some of them at least - but it doesn't really reassure me.
In the communism work and having a job was mandatory, so back then Gypsies had to work too. All right it was an alibi work, everyone had to show up but noone made a sweat but at least they weren't at home or on the streets, this prevented crime and at least kept the settlements safer. And their numbers were low. But since then a new generation grew up who didn't work and could make money out of making kids, even further: making retard kids, because that payed more there are ways to ensure the newborn turns out "handicapped", alcohol, nicotine, paint thinner huffing, beating the mother's stomach etc, and they did it liberally. Getting all kinds of social help sometimes even free housing what they destroyed, sold what's sellable, burn for heating what's burnable Beside that they stole what wasn't nailed down so they could live quite comfortably what counts as comfort for them. Meanwhile they outbreed us. There are certain places, young Hungarians move to western Hungary or Europe, old people remain and the growing number gypsies. We knew this and see this, while the media doesn't talk about it.
With the Fidesz there are some changes, the money they can get free is miserable, harder to get the gibsmedats they are mostly forced to work again, or at least show up and 15 do a job what 2 could in the same time. At least they don't do crimes 8 hours per day. But not all of them have to, they still breed like rabbits and still no real talk about the problem. A bunch of euphemism were invented to substitute Gypsy. Great result.
Oh yeah, raised the number of cops and civilian security organizations for the localities were created at some places.
Funny how the media behaves and hard not to pin it onto some kind of central command. For decades they didn't show faces of criminals and shorten their names when published and they all said: to protect their privacy rights according to the law. No such law were in force ever. Now I think this changed somewhat I'm not sure I only read news to post something here.
I know when the kuruc.info showed up. This is a news site, became close to the Jobbik right at the beginning (one leading member is the owner, or rumored to be), it uses a language which makes it unreadable, repulsive, but back then - about 2005 - started to cover stories about Gypsy crime. Thanks to them many outrageous events could be known and couldn't be silenced. This news site is among the reasons I don't follow the media anymore. I can see what's going on around me in my little world I don't need frustrating news I cannot do about jackshit and frankly noone is willing to do.
There were the infamous "gypsy murders" - reported by every media outlet - when some Hungarians with hunting rifles walked up to some of the poorest gypsies' houses at the end of villages and shot some of them down. People were arrested the case is stretching to this day, sometimes I hear something they were released and/or cleared I don't know what's the latest. There were speculations of course that these were red flag operations. Nevertheless killing a few of them terrorist style doesn't work, even the idiots can see, things have to change on institutional level, but until we play ostrich politics and don't talk about the problem, we can't sit down and do something about it.
Oh time fly by I have to go.


Bernd 11/21/2018 (Wed) 17:27:52 [Preview] No.20684 del
>>20679
>But since then a new generation grew up who didn't work and could make money out of making kids
Sounds pretty much like our Irish """"""""""travellers""""""""""
>there are ways to ensure the newborn turns out "handicapped", alcohol, nicotine, paint thinner huffing, beating the mother's stomach etc, and they did it liberally.
The idea that people are willing to purposely make their own children retarded for some gibs is pretty fucked up, man.
>killing a few of them terrorist style doesn't work, even the idiots can see, things have to change on institutional level
This is something I think is true about the immigration crisis, too. Immigration itself isn't the problem, but it's a merely a symptom of a much larger problem.


Bernd 11/21/2018 (Wed) 20:04:03 [Preview] No.20687 del
>>20684
>pretty fucked up
They do/did all kinds of dirty tricks to maximize the cash they can get from the state. That's the dirtiest for sure.
They also give/gave their kids into state care and then adopted by some relatives (who lives next door anyway) because for every kid the adoptive parents can/could get a nice sum last time I heard about it it was very close to the minimum wage[spoiler] for every [spoiler]for 4 kids they could almost get minimum wage * 4 per month.
I don't know the most recent regulations so this is why I write in present/past tense.
>merely a symptom of a much larger problem.
Very true. To both case, immigration and Gypsies. We can let migrants in or erect fences to stop them as much we want it won't solve anything.
I'm not sure what would be the best in the case of Gypsies. For my heart, I would really just deport them. Push them out of the borders and force them to go wherever they want. Once a bunch of them went to Strasbourg to cry how oppressed they are on the Hungary. They stayed there but after a bunch of theft and cons they were sent back with the first train... But I really would let the westerners get them and enjoy their colorful and rich culture.
However this isn't really a solution. Maybe integration could work for some degree but what I have in mind on that front - serious segregation, selection, regulation of having children (basically eugenics), strict education, forced labour, clean life etc - the sensitive liberal heart couldn't handle. Also could take a few generations.



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