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Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 13:56:29 [Preview] No. 16965
Why are Finns so deformed?


Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 14:31:25 [Preview] No.16966 del
At least we're full of internal beauty. You have none.


Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 14:36:46 [Preview] No.16967 del
meme overdose


Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 14:59:12 [Preview] No.16969 del
fœtal alcohol syndrome


Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 18:09:42 [Preview] No.16975 del
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It works in other way. It is Finns who are alright and others who are deformed.


Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 19:05:35 [Preview] No.16976 del
>>16965
Neanderthal genome is strong with them.


Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 08:53:52 [Preview] No.16995 del
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You would be deformed, too if you had to speak such a retarded language.


Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 08:54:26 [Preview] No.16996 del
>>16995
Oh, OP is Dutch.. nevermind.


Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 19:37:00 [Preview] No.17005 del


Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 21:44:14 [Preview] No.17009 del
Sw*dish genes


Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 21:46:11 [Preview] No.17010 del
Sw*dish genes


Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 05:05:27 [Preview] No.17014 del
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Here jumps the monkey into the water.

>>16995
>>16996
Picrel.


Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 05:06:21 [Preview] No.17015 del
>>17014
Oh wow it wörks. Nice.


Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 17:23:45 [Preview] No.17032 del
I would fuck 2, 3 and 5 tbh


Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 17:48:02 [Preview] No.17037 del
>>17032
Good taste. Not very KC main tire tho.


Bernd 08/15/2018 (Wed) 18:01:31 [Preview] No.18499 del
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They are the rape child of sweden and norway




pic unrelated


Bernd 08/15/2018 (Wed) 18:43:00 [Preview] No.18500 del
>>18499
Technically the rape child of Sweden and Finland. I'm pretty sure Finns looked a lot different a thousand years ago, the only reason it's a Nordic country is because we had the port to the Kattegat, and thus the Swedes couldn't take part in the Viking raids towards Iceland, Greenland, England, France, Ireland, and the Mediterranean like you know and love, and had to go east to Finland, Estonia, and East Slavic lands. You on the other hand are a rape child of Britonnic, Roman, Pictish, Saxon, Jute, Danish, Norwegian, Irish, and French blood plus probably a shit ton of inbreeding considering so many Englishmen are related to the royal family. Really, if it wasn't for England deporting all of their prisoners to America and Australia, the UK would be hell on earth.


Bernd 08/15/2018 (Wed) 18:56:23 [Preview] No.18501 del
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>Why are Finns so deformed?
I dunno.

>>18499
I would tell her she has interesting face but frankly the piercing is a dealbraker for me. 2/10 would not bang.


Bernd 08/15/2018 (Wed) 19:42:20 [Preview] No.18503 del
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>>16965
Of the women, 2 and 5 are particularly fugly (2 is so fugly it kinda looks like a dude). I think 3 is mostly babushka.

1 looks the most Swedish to me and comparatively normal. 4 picrel.

Also, I actually like Suomi language. The hardness/sharpness of syllables reminds me of Basque. Coupled with a low pitched tone (which seems common for them) makes it sound properly manly, which of course is ugly as hell in women, but otherwise it sounds great (for example in metal rock).


Bernd 08/16/2018 (Thu) 20:54:46 [Preview] No.18527 del
>>18503
I don't categorize languages along a manly-feminin axis. To me Finnish sounds like someone tries to speak with a handful a gravel under his tongue. Like someone has sigmatism, dyslalia and rhotacism at once but not quite. It also sounds higher pitched, beside the usual lot of e sounds they seem to have also many i.


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Bernd 08/17/2018 (Fri) 19:13:58 [Preview] No.18540 del
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>>18539
>white
The idea of being "white" is bullshit. Spaniards and Portuguese for example, are closer to Moroccans culturally and genetically than they are to us or the Swedes, but they're "both fellow whites". Buglarians and Magyars are closer to Huns, Turks and Mongols (hail Tengri!) culturally than they are to the Irish, but they're both "fellow whites". Throw any image of a "white man" at me, and I can tell who they really are, and why being "white" is bullshit.


Bernd 08/17/2018 (Fri) 19:29:17 [Preview] No.18541 del
>>18540
This nigga gets it, the idea of """"""""""white"""""""""" """"""""""nationalism"""""""""" was invented by Americans.


Bernd 08/17/2018 (Fri) 19:42:30 [Preview] No.18544 del
>>18541
<""""""""""invented"""""""""" by Americans


Bernd 08/17/2018 (Fri) 21:08:36 [Preview] No.18546 del
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>>18540
>Buglarians and Magyars are closer to Huns, Turks and Mongols (hail Tengri!) culturally than they are to the Irish

All cultural closeness to Mongols in Europe exists only in Finnish memes.

Both nations are pretty European and have European mindset on average. Although, of course, discussion of cultural things are pretty opinionated.

>Throw any image of a "white man" at me, and I can tell who they really are, and why being "white" is bullshit.

Being white is the characteristic of soul.

t. inner mongol


Bernd 08/17/2018 (Fri) 23:24:29 [Preview] No.18547 del
>>18546
>Both nations are pretty European and have European mindset on average. Although, of course, discussion of cultural things are pretty opinionated.
4% of Bulgarian genes are of Central/East Asian origin.
<The genetic diversity among Bulgarians is the reason of more inherited diseases
Hell, their name derives from the Turkic tribe, the Bulgars, they're geographically and culturally closer to Turkey, they've been part of Turkey for more than 500 years, and their language has a large Turkic vocabulary, from both the Turks and the Bulgars. Magyars are also descended from Central Asian invaders, they speak a Finno-Ugric language, they have a large portion of haplogrups Q, N, and J, all of Central and East Asian origin, hell, their name is a combination of "Hun" and "Ugor". They're a mix of the Huns and Ugrics. Constantine VII literally referred to the Hungarians as Turks in his De Administrando Imperio. Ask the Hungarian guy here about this, he'll tell you the same thing I did.


Bernd 08/18/2018 (Sat) 01:04:18 [Preview] No.18548 del
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>>18547
>hell, their name is a combination of "Hun" and "Ugor"
...wait. If there's even a putative etymological relationship between "Hun" and "Hungary", then necessarily Hungarians = Huns. But according to this highly reliable and trustworthy source, Huns = Jews. Therefore,

Hungarians = Jews confirmed


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>>18548
I'm not saying that I actually believe in the Smoloko shit, but is it not a coincidence that some of the nastiest people out there are Hungarian?


Bernd 08/18/2018 (Sat) 07:31:39 [Preview] No.18550 del
>>18549
>nasty
>Soros
But he's great humanist and philanthropist.
>Orbán
He is also a great mannod really. His virtues can be expressed with just a handful of examples of his many international recognition:
- Ordre national du Mérite
- FINA merit
- Josef Strauss-award by Hanns Seidel Foundation
- honorary doctorate of Tufts University
- award by the American Enterprise Institute
- WHO award for the suppression of smoking
- a Japanese honorary doctorate for his commitment to freedom and democracy
- etc. etc.


Bernd 08/18/2018 (Sat) 14:05:43 [Preview] No.18557 del
>>18527
>I don't categorize languages along a manly-feminin axis.
Neither do I, but I can recognise such features in the sound of speech.

>To me Finnish sounds like someone tries to speak with a handful a gravel under his tongue.
I think I recognise this too, but I don't intrinsically associate it with Finnish language itself, rather with the 'accent' used by native speakers. I realise this might sound stupid, since there are (basically) only native speakers, but the point I want to make is that one can imagine the same open vowels, articulation, and cadence of the language without that seemingly constant arc of the tongue (don't know what's the real cause).

>Like someone has sigmatism, dyslalia and rhotacism at once but not quite. It also sounds higher pitched, beside the usual lot of e sounds they seem to have also many i.
I think it has much more u and a. In general I think it has significant amount of alliteration, lots of r, as mentioned (though not as much as Basque), also lots of t and l. Very distinctly articulated ells I might say.

I should probably say that almost all Suomi I've been exposed to has been from music.


Bernd 08/20/2018 (Mon) 19:23:25 [Preview] No.18604 del
>>18540
>Buglarians and Magyars are closer to Huns, Turks and Mongols (hail Tengri!) culturally than they are to the Irish, but they're both "fellow whites".
I have to step out of character for a minute - and I also have many other things to write, but just no time - and interject for a moment. Right now the reality is that our culture is closer to Irish than Mongol. Here, today's Hungary (and pretty sure Bulgaria is the sames) culturally is a very typical Central Eastern European. The closest culture is German and Slav, didn't hear that here, kids, I visited East Germany and everything was fucking sames. Except they had wider selection in beer. And maybe a hint cleaner streets. And no pedestrians crossed red light.
This is the day to day reality of common life. If we really go at it and scratch things ofc we find differences, different folk tales, songs, Hungarian folk music is typically pentatonic. Traditional costumes - which are never worn in everyday life except a person has a job that requires that somehow - are different. But if I mention traditional costume Hungarian and nearby Slavic costumes are very similar. One who research the topic - cultural anthropologists for example - probably can tell differences but to the average eye only sees flower motifs and that's it.
Christianity and feudalism pretty much destroyed everything which made real difference between ethnicities. And maybe the forty years of communism added some more on that for example in the forms of proletarian houses and commieblocks.


Bernd 08/20/2018 (Mon) 19:51:04 [Preview] No.18609 del
>>18547
>4% of Bulgarian genes are of Central/East Asian origin.

That is nothing. Yes, Bulgarians have some genetical relation to asians, but mostly they are European-looking. Maybe somewhat Turkish, but not any Mongol-like.

>Hell, their name derives from the Turkic tribe, the Bulgars, they're geographically and culturally closer to Turkey, they've been part of Turkey for more than 500 years, and their language has a large Turkic vocabulary, from both the Turks and the Bulgars.

They were part of Ottoman empire, not Turkish state. And Ottoman empire was relatively diverse, and didn't push their culture much in non-Muslim countries. Even more: many of Ottoman sultans weren't Turks. And modern Turks are mostly mix of Anatolian Greeks, Armenians and Kurds, not the real Turks from Central Asia.

It is hard question actually, because comparing cultures is not easy task. I was in Bulgaria, they are pretty Slavic-like in cultural sense. Even language sometimes is understandable.

Language closeness doesn't guarantee cultural closeness, nor genetic closeness. For example, some small nations in Russia even has own language (like Komi or Mordva), but you couldn't tell difference between them and average Russian. Even many Tatars (from Tatarstan) are 100% Russians in appearance, language skills (in Russian) and mindset. Assimilation works if applied properly and people didn't differ much externally.

I can't say anything about Hungarians, but looks like they are pretty European, and also suffer from same post-communism cultural experience too (although communism didn't hit them hard as USSR countries).


Bernd 08/20/2018 (Mon) 20:29:33 [Preview] No.18612 del
>>18609
>That is nothing. Yes, Bulgarians have some genetical relation to asians, but mostly they are European-looking. Maybe somewhat Turkish, but not any Mongol-like.
What is "European-looking"?
>They were part of Ottoman empire, not Turkish state. And Ottoman empire was relatively diverse, and didn't push their culture much in non-Muslim countries. Even more: many of Ottoman sultans weren't Turks. And modern Turks are mostly mix of Anatolian Greeks, Armenians and Kurds, not the real Turks from Central Asia.
Osman was descended from Central Asian Turks that migrated west. I'm pretty sure they mixed with Ruthenians, but otherwise, they were pretty damn Turkish.
>I can't say anything about Hungarians, but looks like they are pretty European, and also suffer from same post-communism cultural experience too (although communism didn't hit them hard as USSR countries).
Russia was communist, Ethiopia was communist, ergo; Russians are Ethiopians. Checkmate!


Bernd 08/20/2018 (Mon) 20:43:03 [Preview] No.18613 del
>>18612
>Russia was communist, Ethiopia was communist, ergo; Russians are Ethiopians. Checkmate!
That's not at all what he said.
Communism has uniformisation effect tho - just like Christianity I mentioned above (or rather the medieval Christian Universalism) -, it's part of the "equality and internationalism package" and being part of the Eastern Block gave a certain character for sure. If you travel in those countries all are gonna have that typical post-communist air which is part of the culture.


Bernd 08/20/2018 (Mon) 21:18:08 [Preview] No.18616 del
>>18613
What he's saying is that all post-communist countries in Europe have closer cultures than they did before?


Bernd 08/21/2018 (Tue) 05:49:19 [Preview] No.18625 del
>>18616
>What he's saying is that all post-communist countries in Europe have closer cultures than they did before?
Yes, but this:
>Russia was communist, Ethiopia was communist, ergo; Russians are Ethiopians. Checkmate!
...is a whole different thing. You mistake culture with ethnicity, they aren't the same.
1. In your question the topic is about ethnicities with related cultures (even Hungary's and East Germany's thanks to Christianity, close economic ties, intra-Europe migration, trade and struggling with and against each other for example) got to experience together in one political block the joy of communism which further reduced the cultural distance between them...
2. ...while your misquote says two ethnicities with barely related cultures (while there was/is Christianity in Ethiopia it's really not the same like being under the pressure of medieval European Universalism) adopted communism (or were forced to do that, no matter) but one wasn't even in the close proximity of the USSR made one ethnicity turn into another one.


Bernd 08/21/2018 (Tue) 07:35:14 [Preview] No.18626 del
>>18625
I guess so.


Bernd 08/21/2018 (Tue) 18:10:52 [Preview] No.18632 del
>>18612
>What is "European-looking"?

Appearance, faces etc. Bulgarians don't look mongoloid at all, sometimes they have modern Turkish look, but nothing more.

>Russia was communist, Ethiopia was communist, ergo; Russians are Ethiopians. Checkmate!

It is not about "communism" as generic term, more about Eastern Bloc and USSR. It changed local cultures seriously. Yes, it may be compared to Christianity in some sense as >>18613 says.


Bernd 08/21/2018 (Tue) 18:36:58 [Preview] No.18633 del
This one was written without steppe people LARPing. Mucho seriousness.
All right, I should have posted this already in one of the threads turned into similar discussions thanks to your >>18540 æssbørger tendencies but this is the freshest so here it goes.

These aren't interchangeable concepts:
- country
- state
- race
- nation
- folk/ethnicity
- language
- haplogroup
- phenotype
- genotype
- culture (maybe this can be divided - I would certainly do - to physical/material and spiritual culture but this is another topic)
- archaeological culture
I won't go through all of this just grab a few from the list and write some thoughts.


cont. Bernd 08/21/2018 (Tue) 18:37:26 [Preview] No.18634 del
>>18633
A nation can be made up by several ethnicities. For example today's Hungarian nation - despite being a culture nation (meaning an overwhelmingly large part of the population belongs to the same ethnicity which is changing in our case, fucking Gypsies consists of Hungarians and ethnic minorities: Armenians, Bulgarians, Croats, different groups of Germans, Greeks, Poles, Romanians, Rusins, Serbs, Northern Hungarians (or Tóts) Slovenians, Ukrainians.
The members of an ethnicity share genetic heritage, language, culture and historical background. The aforementioned ethnicities do speak Hungarian and share all the other three component as well. They differ in two things: 1. they speak one other language; 2. they can tell about themselves they belong to an other ethnicity. Not counting few eccentrics or traditionalists if they travel abroad they will say they are Hungarians accept maybe if they go to a country of the same ethnicity, but they will be seen as outsiders there and think they are Hungarians - at least partially - anyway.
I left out two etnicities being special cases: Jews and Gypsies.


cont. Bernd 08/21/2018 (Tue) 18:38:04 [Preview] No.18635 del
>>18634
Officially Jews aren't ethnic minorities on the Hungary, it's a religious denomination, it's the Israelite Church they belong to. Previously recognizing Jews as ethnicity was considered racist and anti-semitic as that's what the government did between the two world wars. Now it's changing and some leader figures of theirs stepped forward and asked to recognize them as such which would be a rational move I think, they even have their own country and Jewish nation, but still others are go on that it's racist. There are other aspects of this but I won't go there right now. I dunno how many of those can speak Hebrew - beside rabbies ofc - who claim to be Israelite and culturally they show mixed picture: most of them live and behave, follow trends, dress like average Hungarians, some of them however can be more traditional, orthodox, we even have Hasidics.
Gypsies are special because most of them don't even speak any of the Gypsy languages (I dunno maybe 2 or 3 exist), they don't have universal "supra-state" culture overreaching the borders and connectint Gypsy communities all over the world (just think about Gypsy music, they just add their temperament to the local music resluting a different style - compare Spanish Gypsy music with Hungarian one, and I mean the traditional one, not the recent electronic monstrosities). They just bring living in poverty and perpetual criminal activity to another level and they call it a culture. What do they call themselves if they travel abroad? Well, if they want a job they are Hungarians, if they want free gibsmedats from Strasbourg then they are poor persecuted Romas who seeks refuge from evil Hungarians, if they are on holiday then they are proud Gypsy tuffguys with finger thick gold chains who don't ask just take anything they want from the peasant Hungarians.


cont. Bernd 08/21/2018 (Tue) 18:38:34 [Preview] No.18636 del
>>18635
An archaeological culture is just a group of typical items, habits and rituals which can be collected, observed and examined via archaeological excavations. A piece of pottery with typical shape or decoration. A common housing type. A certain grave building technique. Sometimes it's just one stuff, sometimes many disticntive things.
It is connected to culture in general as the finds they excavate are the residue of physical/material culture which sometimes is the product of spiritual culture. For example they find a piece of copper pitcher with animal engravings, it's not just a material product but the physical manifestation of the smith's knowledge, thoughts maybe even religion or the maybe the customer's who ordered that pitcher from him, who inteded to use in a certain way, maybe for a religious ritual, etc.


cont. Bernd 08/21/2018 (Tue) 18:39:42 [Preview] No.18637 del
>>18636
Back to ethnicity. It's components (genetics, language, culture, historical background) can and do change.
Probably genetics is still the less understood but maybe a good example is the folks of Central and Inner Asia (for example Turkic people) had much more Europid features in pre-Mongol conquest times. In previous threads where I wrote how tall height and blonde/red hair is typical Mongol feature was written in the usual LARPing style. These are Europid features of course, and the Huns and other peoples who lived in Ordos and northwest from there had many more guys who had these Europid features or mixed Europid-Mongoloid (let's call this Turanid because why not) looks.
For language we have the Bulgars, who arrived with Turkic language and left it behind for Slavic.
We can cite just about any ethnicity in Europe when we talk about culture change. We just get their old pagan life and compare it with their Christian customs in feudal times. Nowadays (well, in the last 150-200 years actually) these people in Europe are rediscovering their pagan past, it is very popular in Hungary as well, not just many traditionalist and larpers tries horse archery (or just archery without horse or riding without archary or something) but the old Hungarian pagan names getting more popular when families deciding about their newborns names.
Historical background is more like evolving than changing from one to another. It is basically the common struggle of our ancestors which makes the group of people more of a community than just a group.

I think that's about it right now. Next time I think I should write about the mistakes even historians do when mix up the concepts above. Also why they do it.


Bernd 08/21/2018 (Tue) 19:52:29 [Preview] No.18638 del
>>18637
So, "Europid", "Negroid", and "Mongoloid" are just bone structures, am I correct? Because not all Europeans are the same genotypically and phenotypically, "white nationalism" is an American invention.


Bernd 08/21/2018 (Tue) 19:59:44 [Preview] No.18639 del
>>18632
They look like Turks to me, just look at that phenotype.


Bernd 08/21/2018 (Tue) 20:35:19 [Preview] No.18640 del
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>>18638
By certain anthropological characteristics humanity can be grouped into three races, in Hungarian terminology we call this big races, there are many sub races however for example atlanto-mediterranian, dinarid, dalo-nordic, alpid, iranid, orientalid, vedda, bambutid, khoisanid, andid, paleo-melanezian, etc, etc. I'm not sure about the correct English terms.
Noone talks about white nationalism. We can equate white or the usual USian expression: Caucasian to Europid but nationalism is an ideology which revolves around community and there's no Europid community (while con-nationalism can exist, as I stated elsewhere in another thread), the top level community which makes sense is the level of the nation.

Oh just remembered a map which was posted long time ago, maybe we were on 8 still, here it is. It's en example of grouping certain human types.
Some assburgers consider the sub-races the actual races and big races nonexistent btw.


Bernd 08/21/2018 (Tue) 21:37:16 [Preview] No.18642 del
i worked for that company for a while, i'm surprised you found this pic


Bernd 08/21/2018 (Tue) 21:52:50 [Preview] No.18645 del
>>18640
I recognise some of these words. Atlanto-Mediterranean designates southern Italians, Dinarid designates Balkan Slavs, Alpid designates non-Germanic Western Europeans like the Irish, and Welsh, Dalo-Nordic designates northern Germans, Hollanders, and Scandinavians, Iranid designates southern Caucasians and Persians, Orientalid designates peninsular Arabs. I can't recognise anything else. Basically 19th century speech.
>Some assburgers consider the sub-races the actual races and big races nonexistent btw.
Well, I'm an assburger. I've seen people who've said Swedes shouldn't mix with Danes, which is pretty damn autistic.


Bernd 08/22/2018 (Wed) 07:58:51 [Preview] No.18651 del
>>18639
For me they are pretty South Slavic looking, maybe with Turk influence.

Although I couldn't easily describe average Turk. Some people are clearly European-Aryan-hello-mr-Hitler, some are truly dark skinned Armenian-looking people. It is "composite" nation like Russia.


Bernd 08/22/2018 (Wed) 11:39:23 [Preview] No.18654 del
>>18642
Are you on that picture?


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>>18642
Do you go to this baari? Frankly it sounds like a nursery rhyme.


Bernd 08/22/2018 (Wed) 17:34:28 [Preview] No.18659 del
>>18658
baari must be short for ateritsiputerisipuolilautatsi-baari huh


Bernd 08/22/2018 (Wed) 17:57:23 [Preview] No.18663 del
>>18659
You misspelled äteritsiputeritsipuolilautatsi. Not just the ä.


Bernd 08/22/2018 (Wed) 18:27:02 [Preview] No.18664 del
>>18663
These long words in Finno-Ugric languages aren't full words, they're just combinations of smaller words, right?


Bernd 08/22/2018 (Wed) 18:51:17 [Preview] No.18665 del
>>18664
I'm not sure entirely how Finnish works so I'll just write how we do it.
We do have the German style words when we glue two words together but it's a Germanism and this custom was adopted in the first half of the 19th century with the orignal intention to Magyarize such words like Standpunkt and others which didn't have exact Hungarian translation previously. The other long words we have comes from the agglutinative nature of our language we change the meaning of the words by adding affixes (or suffixes I'm not good at linguistic jargon) behind them which can be several and add quite a length.
For example:
1. house = ház
2. into the house = a házba
3. into my house = házamba
It's like all these stuff that comes before the word would be added behind it:
2. the houseinto
3. housemyinto
Well, kinda.
So this:
>megszentségteleníthetetlenségeskedéseitekért
is one word (szent) with bunch of affixes (and a prefix).


Bernd 08/22/2018 (Wed) 18:53:38 [Preview] No.18666 del
>>18665
Btw we don't use that word. Ever.


Bernd 08/22/2018 (Wed) 19:56:56 [Preview] No.18668 del
>>18651
To me, the average Turk looks just like those Bulgarians. Just to let you know, those Bulgarians look nothing like I do.


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>>18668
>those Bulgarians look nothing like I do.
Yes, they have smaller tits.
http://sciencenordic.com/one-two-boys-develops-breasts


Bernd 08/23/2018 (Thu) 05:11:53 [Preview] No.18674 del
>>18665
Indo languages do the same for a certain extent.
learn = tanul
learnable = tanulható
or
success = siker
successful = sikeres
but then
more successful = sikeresebb
most successful = legsikeresebb
then the superlative, something like
top most successful = legeslegsikeresebb


Bernd 08/23/2018 (Thu) 06:00:11 [Preview] No.18675 del
>>18665
>2. the houseinto
This has different meaning than "the house-interior", right?


Bernd 08/23/2018 (Thu) 17:16:03 [Preview] No.18681 del
>>18549
Bibi is a Polish Jew
really makes u think, huh?


Bernd 08/23/2018 (Thu) 18:50:30 [Preview] No.18686 del
>>18675
Yes.
house = ház
into = -ba
the = a strange play of the faith this one
into the house = a házba
into the house -> the houseinto


Bernd 08/24/2018 (Fri) 00:59:55 [Preview] No.18703 del
>>18674
Oh yes, are there ANY connections at all between the Slavs and Sarmatians?


Bernd 08/24/2018 (Fri) 10:03:12 [Preview] No.18705 del
>>18665
Exactly how Finnish works too. We have both the combined words (Tietokone, tieto=information, kone=machine, computer) and the affixes/prefixes.
House = Talo
Into the house = Taloon
Into my house = Talooni
Maybe into my house? = Taloonikohan?

which seems little easier than hungarian because usually everything goes into the end of the word (things like un- or non- goes in front of the word like in english)

But most of the time we can say the long words by using separate normal words. For example the last word we can literally say
Ehkä sisälle minun taloon = Maybe into my house.


Bernd 08/24/2018 (Fri) 10:03:35 [Preview] No.18706 del
>>18705
t. Finn in the Netherlands


Bernd 08/24/2018 (Fri) 10:47:59 [Preview] No.18707 del
>>18706
Are you OP?


Bernd 08/24/2018 (Fri) 11:42:25 [Preview] No.18708 del
>>18703
>Oh yes, are there ANY connections at all between the Slavs and Sarmatians?

Slavic ethnogenesis is pretty obscure, especially in east. Some connection existed just because people lived near each other (and Sarmatians, as other steppe nomads, did raiding). Some Scythians and Sarmatians were assimilated later into Slavic tribes,

Some linguistic traces remained, like river names.


Bernd 08/24/2018 (Fri) 12:49:56 [Preview] No.18710 del
>>18708
Doesn't sound like the "WE WUZ SARMATIANS" shit Polacks espouse.


Bernd 08/24/2018 (Fri) 16:42:28 [Preview] No.18712 del
>>18703
I see it was answered.
What I would add that no peoples come from nothing and no peoples disappear into nothing. From written sources we could think so sometimes (or oftentimes) especially in the case of the so called Migration Period but it just means that they disappear from the view of those who wrote those sources for whatever reason.

>>18705
>Exactly how Finnish works too.
Yes.

>>18710
I don't know if they espouse it, I know the thought Sarmatian origin exists but it doesn't seem they put any extra emphasis on it. I see it on imageboards on meme level similarly this Fenno-Mongol thing but much less pronounced. The hussar thing is much more frequent in my experience.
>shit Polacks
What's your problem?


Bernd 08/24/2018 (Fri) 19:50:58 [Preview] No.18718 del
>>18712
I guess rather used to espouse. The Sarmatian origin hypothesis dates back to the Renaissance, and it gained a lot of traction among the nobility, who basically started to LARP as Sarmatians, it's not as pronounced today however, but it still sounds ridiculous from a modern standpoint.


Bernd 08/25/2018 (Sat) 06:43:28 [Preview] No.18720 del
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>>18705
The original was just the left half with Suomi. For the first blink at least half of them are useless, so it's just theoretical, maybe can have some use in literature but no sense in daily practice.


Bernd 08/25/2018 (Sat) 07:07:20 [Preview] No.18722 del
>>18720
I assume they are 'technically' correct, but do they also have a well-defined and coherent meaning?


Bernd 08/25/2018 (Sat) 07:40:44 [Preview] No.18723 del
>>18720
Reminds me. Where does the English word "dog" even come from? In all other Germanic languages, it's hund, which is a cognate with "hound". Where did "dog" come from then?


Bernd 08/25/2018 (Sat) 07:57:07 [Preview] No.18724 del
>>18723

$ dict dog
From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:
Dog \Dog\ (d[add]g or d[o^]g), n. [AS. docga; akin to D. dog mastiff, Dan. dogge, Sw. dogg.]
1. (Zool.) A quadruped of the genus {Canis}, esp. the domestic dog ({Canis familiaris}).
...

Isn't Danish your native tongue?


Bernd 08/25/2018 (Sat) 08:17:39 [Preview] No.18725 del
>>18724
Eh, here, it's just "Hund", like most other Germanic languages.


Bernd 08/25/2018 (Sat) 08:35:55 [Preview] No.18726 del
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>>18722
Read it with little more depth (still haven't read the whole thing) I can say no, not all of them has coherent meaning. I have to say some (mostly those which has the -é- suffix added and followed by another one) don't make sense at all. I can't define kutyásságáéilag for example. Kutyásságáé is ok mostly, I could make a little tale about what's going on but with the -ilag it loses the coherent-meaning you asked about.

>>18723
This map says it might have proto-Germanic origin.
I would note that yes, the most commonly used word is kutya nowadays but we also call it eb (which supposed to have Uralic origin) and I know it was called cenk as well in the middle ages or even up to the 20th century.
Some more maps you'll probably liek:
http://thedockyards.com/linguistic-maps-of-europe/
https://www.businessinsider.com/european-maps-showing-origins-of-common-words-2013-11


Bernd 08/25/2018 (Sat) 09:32:23 [Preview] No.18727 del
>>18726
Some say it's derived from "dock", as the Angles brought the Great Dane with them from Angeln to Great Britain, and then they transferred those dogs to continental Europe.


Bernd 08/25/2018 (Sat) 10:34:20 [Preview] No.18728 del
>>18726
>Собака

Word "пёс" (pyos) used in Russian very often, although "собака" is somewhat more official.


Bernd 08/26/2018 (Sun) 13:57:42 [Preview] No.18748 del
>>18726
Wtf is this north-western Poland, no Germans live there since 1945


Bernd 08/26/2018 (Sun) 20:18:41 [Preview] No.18755 del
>>18540
>The idea of being "white" is bullshit.
Said the Somalian immigrant. In all seriousness though, "white" is not a race and that is the extent to which I will agree. Never the less "whites" are unified only because of the hatred shown towards all whites and the constant threat to all white nations.


Bernd 08/26/2018 (Sun) 21:17:49 [Preview] No.18757 del
>>18755
So, are Scandinavians and Slavs "unified" because of hatred shown towards them?


Bernd 08/26/2018 (Sun) 21:39:10 [Preview] No.18758 del
>>18748

Author of this map just used some common knowledge. Of course there are errors.

For example, Karelia shown with own word, but there is no Mordovia or Komi for example - these republics also have own language. And Crimea is Turkish.


Bernd 08/27/2018 (Mon) 05:17:48 [Preview] No.18761 del
>>18757
Well, it's not a preventing factor.
I yet to see a hatred towards the Slavs which isn't directed from Germanics tho. Well, numerous Hungarians hate (and/or snub) some Slavs but not the Slavs.


Bernd 08/27/2018 (Mon) 06:36:06 [Preview] No.18762 del
>>18761
I say because back then, no Germanic would want Slavs of any kind migrating to their nation, but nowadays, "Slavs are our brothers, 1488 we're all Aryans, don't you know the Winged Hussars saved us in the battle against the Turks?".


Bernd 08/27/2018 (Mon) 16:49:55 [Preview] No.18764 del
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>>18762
>back then
That's a little broad concept. There were times when ethnicity wasn't really mattered, much more important factors was the religion and social status.
>no Germanic would want Slavs of any kind
Imperial Germany was very chauvinistic I heard, with strong Germanisation politics.
>we're all Aryans
Well, we are. Look at the Nürnberg Laws.
>Winged Hussars saved us in the battle against the Turks?
This true. Sobieski FTW.


Bernd 08/27/2018 (Mon) 22:04:47 [Preview] No.18767 del
>>18764
I'll first pretend I didn't see those images.
>Imperial Germany was very chauvinistic I heard, with strong Germanisation politics.
I'm pretty sure Germanisation was aimed towards Slavicised Germans, like the Lusatians. Also, if it was the year 990, and you asked the """"Holy"""" """"Roman"""" """"Emperor"""" of his opinion on the Slavs, it probably wouldn't have been nice.
>Well, we are. Look at the Nürnberg Laws.
Not really.
<We demand the unification of all Germans in the Greater Germany on the basis of the right of self-determination of peoples
<Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no jew can be a member of the race
Only one of German blood. Slavs AREN'T of German blood. There's a HUGE difference.


Bernd 08/27/2018 (Mon) 23:48:31 [Preview] No.18770 del
>>18769
VPNfag.


Bernd 08/28/2018 (Tue) 00:02:20 [Preview] No.18771 del
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>>18770
Too poor for VPN. I did fuck around with proxy addons a bit and one day whenever I disabled one of them browser was telling me that I'm using invalid proxy but whenever it was turned on on deffault null proxy internet was properly browsable. Basically around that time I've noticed I'm Denmark on every /int/ I visit but those two things might be entirely unrelated since you're Denmark too.


Bernd 08/28/2018 (Tue) 00:03:42 [Preview] No.18772 del
>>18771
Uh, okay?


Bernd 08/28/2018 (Tue) 00:07:34 [Preview] No.18773 del
>>18771
Where are you actually from?


Bernd 08/28/2018 (Tue) 00:16:24 [Preview] No.18774 del
>>18773
From the past, come to think of it. Haven't been regularly browsing any /int/ since 2012. I'll be on my way.


Bernd 08/28/2018 (Tue) 00:32:58 [Preview] No.18775 del
>>18774
What?


Bernd 08/28/2018 (Tue) 00:33:55 [Preview] No.18776 del
>>18775
I meant where do you actually live in?


Bernd 08/28/2018 (Tue) 00:37:29 [Preview] No.18777 del
i think the answer must come from within


Bernd 08/28/2018 (Tue) 00:43:43 [Preview] No.18778 del
>>18777
It'd be a shame if you forgot to turn your VPN on.. Oh wait, you did.


Bernd 08/28/2018 (Tue) 05:44:56 [Preview] No.18783 del
>>18767
>I'll first pretend I didn't see those images.
Why?
Polish-Hungarian friendship is very real, we share common adventures of a millennia, first ruling families had marriage ties, got kings from one another, fought against common enemies (those pesky imperialists liek the HRE or the Orromans), helped each other out in trouble (e.g. Poles helped us in 1848-49, and we helped them in 1939 giving them a free route to retreat/leave/flee.), had similar social structure (very high ratio of nobles), we shared same interests and we do even today.

>I'm pretty sure
Check again. Even we suffered from Germanisation attempts. See Josef II.
>The """"Holy"""" """"Roman"""" """"Emperor"""" of his opinion on the Slavs, it probably wouldn't have been nice.
And how bout Czechs in there?
Your quote says nothing about the Aryans.


Bernd 08/28/2018 (Tue) 11:13:36 [Preview] No.18786 del
>>18783
>And how bout Czechs in there?
Eh.. What about the Sorbs (Lusatians)? What about the Elbean Slavs? The Germans weren't that tolerant.
>Your quote says nothing about the Aryans.
You were talking about the Nueremburg Laws, which was primarily referring to Germans, Mixlings and Jews, it doesn't refer to Aryans at all. And let's keep in mind "Aryan" literally derives from Sanskrit "arya", which derives from Proto-Indo-Iranian "áryas" meaning noble, who the Indo-Iranians called themselves in India. From what I know, the English after conquering the Marathi called themselves "Aryans" to justify their conquest of India, because they were "high caste" and "noble", and it eventually spread to Europe.


Bernd 08/28/2018 (Tue) 19:00:49 [Preview] No.18800 del
>>18786
Oh yeah, they substituted the language category Aryan with the German blood and German related blood. My mistake.
Nevertheless the whole law was drafted in a way that didn't define what "German blood" and "related blood" mean only with negations: non-Jewish, non-Gypsy and I think non-colored was also there. But even this wasn't a definition we can only conclude this from the text.
So the aforementioned expressions could mean anything depending on who reads it and what he sees in them, for example "German blood" could be folks of Germany like Saxon or Bavarian and others but could also include Nordics as well. And in the "related" category can fall basically anyone in Europe. According to this they recruited soldiers for the SS all over Europe, their guideline was the Nürnberg Laws. 80-120 000 Hungarians served in the SS, and not just them, but Bosniaks, Ukrainians and others, I won't bore you I suspect you know this.
So my point is even with the standard of the Nazis there's no obstacle for a German to feel some sense of community or camaraderie with Slavs or any other.


cont. Bernd 08/28/2018 (Tue) 19:20:57 [Preview] No.18801 del
>>18800
Our day and age the scope is different. Back then it was the affairs of neighbouring countries today everything is global. The nations of Europe have to face players like USA, Russia and China all of them has their fingers in pies all over the world. So here we have the question of be a bitch of one of them or create our own block that can face them economically and culturally (and now it might slowly turn into militarily too). Beside being France's and Germany's private club there's another reason why the EU is a good idea and I'm not saying it works fine now. But so it could work we need something that make us choose this community of nations instead of USA, Russia or China. By the rhetoric of our government it could be some kind of "Europeanism" and Christianity.


cont. Bernd 08/28/2018 (Tue) 19:27:05 [Preview] No.18802 del
>>18801
Now by that I got the idea that change of scope what the Nazi Germany had to face and failed eventually. They recognized it I see the example of the SS above as an argument for this. In his "testament" (I refer to that book made out of his conversations with Bormann during his last weeks) Hitler said he regrets he couldn't win the heart of the Arabs and use them against the Brits. I think he should have recognized that winning the Slavs on large scale could have won the war for him.


Bernd 08/28/2018 (Tue) 20:30:11 [Preview] No.18803 del
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>>18800
Pretty sure Table Talks was just a fabrication. And yes, foreign volunteers joined the Wehrmacht, not just Europeans by the way. There were Russians (Russian Liberation Army), Arabs (Free Arabian Legion), Hindus (Indische legion), Division Azul, and also several Croatian legions. Other foreign volunteers include Albanians, Belgians, Bosniaks, Czechs, French, Greeks, Hollandese, Hungarians, Norwegians, Poles, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedes and English, some with their own SS divisions. It still didn't mean they could become a citizen, because
<Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no jew can be a member of the race
And those volunteers weren't of German blood, and thus they couldn't be citizens.


Bernd 08/29/2018 (Wed) 12:05:13 [Preview] No.18819 del
>>18800
>So my point is even with the standard of the Nazis there's no obstacle for a German to feel some sense of community or camaraderie with Slavs or any other.
And that argument is moot when you could say the same for Arabs and Hindus, and that the "German blood" statement was for citizenship.


Bernd 08/29/2018 (Wed) 18:12:23 [Preview] No.18829 del
>>18803
>>18819
You are conveniently dismissing the part of "related blood" because that was in the laws as well. And it's laws in plural. Yes they listed the conditions of citizenship but they weren't just about that, they contained a marriage law too. These laws came the closest of what could be an official, institutionalized description about the members of their precious race.
Laws generally need a bunch of definitions which usually included in the first couple of paragraph, the Nürnberg Laws didn't gave such for German blood and related blood, or rather the lawmakers gave definition via exclusion. And they didn't excluded Slavs for example.
And they used these "definitions" these Laws provided pragmatically because they applied these to the recruits of the SS later in the war.
>And that argument is moot when you could say the same for Arabs and Hindus, and that the "German blood" statement was for citizenship.
Again you conveniently overlook the "related blood" part. Also you think you know what they meant as "German blood" but you just inject your opinion, a supposition, about what it means. And giving even wider example what was acceptable for the SS doesn't counter my argument but supports it: no reason for the Germans to exclude a wider selection of people from camaraderie.
>Pretty sure Table Talks was just a fabrication
Check again, their authenticity is widely accepted. My copy - it's a Hungarian translation from the German original, not the whole but the last 18 monologues - states that the text might be tempered with here and there ofc.


Bernd 08/29/2018 (Wed) 23:51:37 [Preview] No.18833 del
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>>18829
>they didn't excluded Slavs for example
Where does it say related blood here? I'm dying to know.
>Also you think you know what they meant as "German blood"
They never said "Germanic blood" they just said "German blood", likely from the various groups of Germany, like the Bavarians, the Saxons, Austrians the Sudeten Germans, etc. I doubt they also meant other Germanic groups like the Hollandese, English, even Nordics..
>And giving even wider example what was acceptable for the SS doesn't counter my argument but supports it
I was implying those were only SS divisions, they WEREN'T ABLE TO BECOME CITIZENS.
>Check again, their authenticity is widely accepted. My copy - it's a Hungarian translation from the German original, not the whole but the last 18 monologues - states that the text might be tempered with here and there ofc.
And I guess it's odd that Francois Genoud was behind the discovery of Table Talks, but never released the original German text. I wonder why...


Bernd 08/30/2018 (Thu) 05:00:38 [Preview] No.18839 del
>>18833
You do aware that the Laws aren't just a carte. Check them, you'll find the related blood. And again you suppose what they thought what "German" and "related" means.
>CITIZENS
That's nothing to do with anything. It's about applying the "definitions" the laws give. The official, institutionalized "definition" which was simple: no Jews, no Gypsies and maybe no color (which is also open to interpretations, it not necessary means what you think it should mean).
A law isn't just used for it's specified purpose but give a guideline to many other official business. For example I wanted to know once what the Hungarian state considers "non-profit" or "public benefit" I found one law about whatever and it gave the definition of "non-profit/public benefit". This definition is used in many other situations which are unrelated to that law's topic or intended goal of regulating whatever.
>Table Talks
Checked the wikipedia page. Says Genoud only made a French translation, and it's later than the German. According to Speer the text is legit. And any historians looked into that matter says they are authentic. I could worth a more in-depth peek and investigation for those who has the time for it.
And you come with conspiracy theories. I wonder why you find uncomfortable to accept these monologues as legitimate.


Bernd 08/30/2018 (Thu) 05:32:55 [Preview] No.18844 del
>>18839
>Checked the wikipedia page. Says Genoud only made a French translation, and it's later than the German. According to Speer the text is legit. And any historians looked into that matter says they are authentic. I could worth a more in-depth peek and investigation for those who has the time for it.
Again, he "discovered" and translated it, yet he never released the original German text.
>You do aware that the Laws aren't just a carte. Check them, you'll find the related blood. And again you suppose what they thought what "German" and "related" means.
Huh. Well, I'd suppose "related" would be other Germanic groups then, like the Nordics, Hollanders, and the English. Is there any proof they considered the Slavs or Hungarians "related"?


Bernd 08/30/2018 (Thu) 17:16:52 [Preview] No.18850 del
>>18844
I found a text well enough, I might as well post it:
1. protection of blood:
http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~rar4619/blood.html
2. citizenship:
http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~rar4619/reich.html
It's full of vague terms, what it means to be "desirous and personally fit"? It's a gummy law which could be used however they wanted to. I guess they made it this way on purpose.
>Again, he "discovered" and translated it, yet he never released the original German text.
But it was published by Werner Jochmann in German as well:
Monologe im Führerhauptquartier 1941–1944. Aufgezeichnet von Heinrich Heim. Hamburg 1980
This also has a Hungarian translation I don't own sadly.


Bernd 08/31/2018 (Fri) 10:06:35 [Preview] No.18856 del
>>18850
Judging by that, I'd say Hollanders, Scandinavians, and English it is for related groups.


Bernd 09/03/2018 (Mon) 15:04:04 [Preview] No.18937 del
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uEXqUWRtP-Y [Embed]


Bernd 09/03/2018 (Mon) 16:37:55 [Preview] No.18938 del
>>18937
That's an ethnic Finn right there.


Bernd 09/03/2018 (Mon) 22:40:19 [Preview] No.18947 del
>>18938
You think you are joking, right?


Bernd 09/04/2018 (Tue) 05:11:56 [Preview] No.18954 del
>>18947
Oooo, I remember it was posted before. Bernd including me really should watch that.


Bernd 09/04/2018 (Tue) 17:16:45 [Preview] No.18973 del
>>18720
>>18722
Maybe half of them are some that you might encounter in real life.

For example picking by random I can see
Koirako = A dog?
Koirastasiko = From your dog?
Koirannekaan = not even your dog

But then most of the stuff at the end
Koirinensako = With his dogs?
Koirattasikaanko = Even without your dog?
Koirinennekokaan = To be honest I'm not 100% sure about, but "Not even with your dogs?"

The more I try to translate the less it starts to make sense. We can use normal words to say the same thing instead of using one word and everyone does this. Maybe some formal story or a book might use longer words.


I also noticed those are not even all. It mostly adds just -kaan (even) with different person. We have many more


Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 11:16:45 [Preview] No.19086 del
Suomi - Magyarország football game today. The great Khan would be proud.


Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 11:33:51 [Preview] No.19087 del
>>19086
And one of our striker plays in Kazakhstan.
Meanwhile in Suomi:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-vtXKrVvUMw [Embed]


Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 12:08:17 [Preview] No.19091 del
>>19087
me getting a signature from the dark pigmented guy, just not to appear as racist


Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 17:16:50 [Preview] No.19100 del
>>19091
Min 52, Finns leading by 1.
Haven't seen it so far, but I heard we don't even know where the Finnish net is.


Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 17:29:13 [Preview] No.19104 del
Oh god free kick. From a good angle and distance.
Oh our goalie saved a nice one.


Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 17:31:41 [Preview] No.19105 del
Free kick again. Fugging Finns will score again.


Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 17:32:49 [Preview] No.19106 del
Nice save.
Finnish supporters look like a bunch of autists.


Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 17:56:18 [Preview] No.19112 del
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4 minutes overtime
All of our players are two left legged srsly.
Picrel typical Finn.
Only 2 mins now.


Bernd 09/08/2018 (Sat) 18:00:17 [Preview] No.19114 del
All right we lost. It remained 1-0. About 70 mins we had some nice opportunities but that's about it. Oh well.


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ebin


Bernd 09/10/2018 (Mon) 15:49:48 [Preview] No.19165 del
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>>19115
Frankly they didn't have to overexert themselves too much.


Bernd 09/10/2018 (Mon) 18:42:08 [Preview] No.19173 del
>>19165
The Euros 2016 in France were pretty good for Hungary and their old goal keeper. Arrogant Austrians were removed and it looked funny when the score showed Austria-Hungary, so I was asking myself who they were playing against.


Bernd 09/11/2018 (Tue) 05:04:16 [Preview] No.19180 del
>>19173
>Euros 2016 in France were pretty good for Hungary
That depends on the scale. For Hungary in general the best four is the pretty good. But for the Hungary after 1986 Mexico, yes we can say that they were pretty good.


Bernd 01/09/2019 (Wed) 16:15:33 [Preview] No.22196 del
>>22194
They should have asked Bernd, that could have spared lot of research money.



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