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EC DOOD Bernd 06/02/2018 (Sat) 22:48:10 [Preview] No. 16794
Wat nou?

Bernd 06/02/2018 (Sat) 22:50:56 [Preview] No.16795 del
Kohlchan or this god forsaken place I guess.

Bernd 06/02/2018 (Sat) 22:57:11 [Preview] No.16796 del
That's were the Germans went, anyway.

Bernd 06/02/2018 (Sat) 23:49:21 [Preview] No.16797 del
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Kohlchan just went down too

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 00:03:11 [Preview] No.16798 del
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ylilauta is systematically taking down all remnants of kc
we are currently working on the elimination of this board as well

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 00:59:16 [Preview] No.16799 del
It's on and off because of all the refuges.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 03:03:03 [Preview] No.16802 del
8chan is down also.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 04:19:18 [Preview] No.16803 del
I won't go to Kohlchan or any other chan, if i have to i will build a new chan out of clay and hire 2 homeless people to moderate it for 1 warm meal per day.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 04:24:16 [Preview] No.16804 del
holy shit is this cause the admin got doxed? that's some faggotry. I don't think similar efforts will work here. I liked ernstchan, a lot, even though it was kind of weird seeing KC remnants rape and pillage it.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 06:15:16 [Preview] No.16806 del
We welcome Ernst and Bernd ofc. /kc/ here is the home of serious discussions, but it's slower than Ernst was before Bernd arrived there.
How much of the original userbase remainded there anyway?

>this god forsaken place
What do you mean?

Stay here. Build this board. We have excellent moderation.

Evil mustardminds.

For World Cup reasons (maybe Ernst remembers) I checked several times both Ernst and Kohl in the past few days and of course also did sporadically previously. I got the feel that those on Kohl are Ernstusers as well. Or most of them, most likely because one board is just too slow for them. I think there are people who post on 8 too.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 06:28:15 [Preview] No.16808 del
Also supposedly we are on a new server now and things should be more stable from now on.
Please note you can reach the site via several domains.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 07:00:29 [Preview] No.16809 del
>What do you mean?
Kohl gets more post in a day than Ernst got in a month, which is more than this board got in its lifetime.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 07:34:35 [Preview] No.16810 del
How is that makes this place god forsaken?

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 12:56:31 [Preview] No.16829 del
Wat happened?

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 13:01:30 [Preview] No.16830 del
Your guess is as good as everyone else's.
In the meantime tell us about your country's dangerous insects here: >>16788

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 13:06:13 [Preview] No.16833 del
Antifa Mods got doxxed

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 14:41:59 [Preview] No.16834 del
There no reason to spread those rumors here as well, they were fabricated for kohlchan raids. Not a single of the EC mods is a member of any Antifa.

t. former EC mod.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 14:44:37 [Preview] No.16835 del
Being and antifa is a relative concept. Just like being a nazi.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 14:51:17 [Preview] No.16836 del
Alright. The background is that one of the mods used as vhost in the IRC the domain "antifa.gmbh". Some people did not get the joke and jumped to conclusions.

Despite all that, it's hilarious how much fuzz was made, as if being associated with any antifa group would in any way mean anything.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 14:54:20 [Preview] No.16837 del
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>t. former EC mod.
You had one job, instead you (or your team) cowardly decided to close the board and perform nothing.
t. criticized you

P.S.: if you decide to restore Ernstchan or talk with former owner to redelegate domain and give server (if it's not deleted yet), come on

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 14:57:11 [Preview] No.16838 del
I read it on Kohl that dudes checked out your (i.e. the mods') twitter and found it's full of antifa crap.
I'm not judging ofc. And I meant it's relative that for some people you can be X despite you are far from it. It's like how everyone is nazi to some people for whatever reason.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 15:06:01 [Preview] No.16839 del
Fair enough. I'm just a bit sad that EC will likely be remembered on the terms that are dictated by the people on Kohlchan, who actually claim themselves as "winners" as if EC and kohl were in some sort of battle. We mostly just didn't care for kohl, didn't have any animosity whatsoever.

Well, we knew for a while that one admin didn't want to continue and we were looking around for someone trustworthy for a few weeks. But I was as surprised as you when I found out it's dead. I can't really speak for those who made the decision and whether or not their twitter accounts played a role in their decision. Looking back I'm somewhat glad I don't have to continue moderating because it started to weigh on me over the past couple of weeks.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 15:21:48 [Preview] No.16840 del
>EC will likely be remembered on the terms that are dictated by the people on Kohlchan
I'm not sure it will. More people posted on Ernst than on Kohl for a reason. They liked being there (otherwise they would moved elsewhere) and I think that's how they'll remember it. And how outsiders will do? Doesn't really matter they didn't know it.

What I remember is - well the /int/ board, never visited others - that it was a cozy slow board with serious discussions. Those who were there at the time I spent a few days there - due to End downtime - made that board that way because that's how they liked it. I didn't see any moderation but the one that affected me, a trigger happy mod rangebanned another Hungarian and I fell into that. This honestly sucked.
I hope some of those posters would come here, I know some of them crossposts since ever.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 15:22:03 [Preview] No.16841 del
If you are able to contact, do it.
People are interested in reviving Ernstchan.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 17:05:51 [Preview] No.16844 del
come to krautchan.co

It seems pretty dead, maybe we can have serious discussion there

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 17:07:18 [Preview] No.16845 del

Sometimes less is more

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 17:08:47 [Preview] No.16846 del
>stopping site because someone found that you are antifa

I guess this isn't real cause because this is nothing.

Or they are just kids.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 17:33:43 [Preview] No.16850 del
That's true. I flip on randomly a thread on Kohl (for example, it can be almost on any chan on any board) and if there won't be bout the 90% of the posts those wouldn't even missing.

Thanks. We're kind of on the same position.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 20:52:12 [Preview] No.16869 del
Somebody know why and when it go back?
I 90% visited ernstchan videogames threda and want it back right now
t. Not knower

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 20:59:09 [Preview] No.16871 del
As it looks it's don't come back anytime soon.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 21:01:59 [Preview] No.16872 del
Well looks like krautchan.co will be alternative.. but man, it's ugly on mobli phone

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 21:05:30 [Preview] No.16873 del
Needs more posters, though. Similar to here.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 21:37:04 [Preview] No.16874 del
Honestely it's kinda dead and kinda look at discord and thredas make me sad.
Looks like I need end with imageboards forever

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 21:50:08 [Preview] No.16875 del

Why can't we have nice and cozy place for few dozen of reasonable posters?

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Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 22:16:08 [Preview] No.16877 del
What's the underlying high quality of these posts?

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 22:18:57 [Preview] No.16878 del
Where are you going now? I know its you, the "muhh low quiality OPs" Russian. Sorry sweety but EC is dead.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 22:32:03 [Preview] No.16879 del
Who do you mean?
t. Other russian who was quite sad when kc refugees arrived on ec

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 22:33:12 [Preview] No.16880 del
Leave your fagspeak where you came from, vierkanal kanker.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 22:35:29 [Preview] No.16882 del
Uhm, can you like not be homophobic. Its forbidden on EC.

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 23:04:47 [Preview] No.16884 del
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Is it finally time to revive NORTHPOLE?

Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 23:05:35 [Preview] No.16885 del
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Is it finally time to revive NORTHPOLE?

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 05:32:36 [Preview] No.16888 del
You can make long video games threddys here. We did it few times.

Because we are spread out too thin.
We should unite here.

There are stuff that worth banning for and stuff there isn't. Calling someone nigger isn't. It's a long topic might return to this in the evening. I think it might be a better practice to leave it to the posters to "police" themselves. Like don't react to certain types of posts, if shitposters don't get reactions they get no fun out of it they stop.

I thought about it and I think if you (Ernst in general, not personally you) have to option to get your board back then go for it. Now that Bernd went to Kohl I don't think they would return and Ernst could get it's userbase back without them.
It's kinda selfish to say "stay here", despite this board isn't worse than Ernst was before KC main went down and no reason not to do that.

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 05:35:26 [Preview] No.16889 del
>1st pic
>here and on reddit
wait what site is that if that's not reddit?

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 05:39:54 [Preview] No.16891 del

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 05:41:56 [Preview] No.16892 del
oh god lol

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 05:46:14 [Preview] No.16893 del
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>I think it might be a better practice to leave it to the posters to "police" themselves. Like don't react to certain types of posts, if shitposters don't get reactions they get no fun out of it they stop.

Yeah, because that will work.

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 05:50:06 [Preview] No.16894 del
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It's a nice thought but correct, it is easier said then done.

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 06:11:04 [Preview] No.16895 del
We need a viper chan

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 09:24:17 [Preview] No.16896 del
Keked at hobos. Just kys yourselves.

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 11:00:57 [Preview] No.16897 del
mods did a good job there, but too late and too little

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 11:05:32 [Preview] No.16898 del
>There are stuff that worth banning for and stuff there isn't. Calling someone nigger isn't.

Enjoy getting your board spammed with thousands of kohltier shitpost in that case.

>I think it might be a better practice to leave it to the posters to "police" themselves. Like don't react to certain types of posts

That might work for the occasional shitposter/troll but it certainly doesn't work for mentally deranged aggressive cancer raids of people who are obsessed with destroying your chan's culture.

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 11:42:48 [Preview] No.16899 del
>Enjoy getting your board spammed with thousands of kohltier shitpost in that case.
Calling someone nigger for the sake of calling someone nigger - kohltier shitpost.
Calling someone nigger in context of elaborative post - is perfectly fine, it's not like aggressive speech is something unheard of.

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 13:30:03 [Preview] No.16903 del
This board here has like 5 users, moderation and bad words isn't really a problem. This board was created because a power-tripping burger, that isn't even a Bernd, stole the 8/kc/ board. And it existed before krautchan dieded an deaths. It's just nice and slow serious discussions that you can check once a day. I remember the episode on EC when the mod closed a pol tier thread, so everyone would read Umberto Eco. This is assburger stuff, but I don't like this kind of power-tripping.

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 14:15:34 [Preview] No.16904 del

I was talking about the situation on ernstchan.
I'm aware there is no shitposters hordes active here.

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 15:02:44 [Preview] No.16908 del
Let it rest. I lost hope for the place back in March or whenever it was. You're going to struggle to get the feel of EC/int/ back because 90% of the Ernst diaspora now has never experienced actual EC-tier and thinks the emergency moderation of the last few months is what the place was like. Unfortunately, it's also how the 14 year olds over on cabbage are going to make sure it's remembered.

At least the retarded "Bernst" crowd are shitting that place up now. Seeing that site's users endlessly moan about the influx of new posters is poetic justice for all the spamming they did trying to bring people over there.

My recommendation is to shoulder arms and march off to other places. I doubt I'll see any of my old mates from EC again out there which is a right shame, but that's the price of imageboard friends. The place goes down and that's that, you got no way to contact them and regroup.

Also, let's not talk rot about endchan like calling it 'god-forsaken'. They had posters drop into EC/int/ now and then and they were always good blokes despite the understandable animosity from the Bernd spamming of EC advertising around the time of EC/int/'s creation.

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 15:09:21 [Preview] No.16909 del
a new Ernst refugee board:

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 15:34:21 [Preview] No.16912 del
I'am someone who was on EC when they start int board and EC was my home untill KC died and it get shitted by hordes of newfriends. Since then I inly posted in videogames thread since other board become uninteresting KC-clone
I'am sad, really sad now. In addition to real life issues happened all of this. And looks like there be no place like old EC anywhere. And if it be - I most probably will not know about it.

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 15:35:36 [Preview] No.16913 del
>90% of the Ernst diaspora now has never experienced actual EC-tier and thinks the emergency moderation of the last few months is what the place was like. Unfortunately, it's also how the 14 year olds over on cabbage are going to make sure it's remembered.

Why even care about them?

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 15:37:58 [Preview] No.16914 del
>And if it be - I most probably will not know about it.

Nah, just stick around on the Ernst aslyums like here or >>16909 and you will be always up to date
with recent development, if there is any...

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 15:47:41 [Preview] No.16918 del
>I doubt I'll see any of my old mates from EC again
Some posts here now and then.

You can start a gaming thread. But actually there is one here: >>16144 (for some reason it doesn't load the KC css for me in that thread)

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 15:48:02 [Preview] No.16919 del
I kinda lurk on krauchan.co already and checking this threda, 8chan I can get it blocked and I stit from phone and proxied there are very shitty to use, because even regular scrolling on mobile browser give a problems

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 15:49:07 [Preview] No.16921 del
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There are alternatives around that I've been on longer than EC that I've returned to as primary boards rather than lurkplaces. They're not 1:1 alternatives but they're close.

Because it's a shame and a half to see the good name of a board full of good folks, among whom I can count my only friends real or online, tarnished by a bunch of edgelords. I have a lot of good memories from there thanks to those people. They helped me with some rough times, put up with my bullshit, and gave me memories that I still chuckle at to this day. The treatment that EC's memory is getting just ain't right.

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 15:50:30 [Preview] No.16923 del
Thanx but I don't think it is place where I belongs too, I created thread in krautchan.co but it is almost dead board. And I don't want to disscus only vidja games - board I want is how it was on EC before kraukanker invasion. Maybe with a bit more postees but that's all.

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 15:52:53 [Preview] No.16924 del
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And what this alternatives are?

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 15:54:35 [Preview] No.16925 del
Yeah, but still I don't see a reason to care about whatever screwed memory some 14 year old edgelords and low IQ individuals have. What matters is your own and other knowers of things memories, and that wont be influenced by some newfriend's misconceptions.

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 16:02:40 [Preview] No.16930 del
Yeah, I'll probably lurk here and see what I can see. I don't want to crash the party y'all have got going though. Lord knows I understand what it's like to have an influx of unwanted visitors after a site dies.

They're only really alternatives because I was already there. They're not /int/ boards at all. Mostly just older splinter boards from earlier site closures or hobby-specific imageboards. They're not really similar to EC content wise, but rather they're just slower and more focused on long-term discussion.

I shouldn't care, but it's not pleasant at all. They could have just wrecked the place and got it shut down, but instead they have to go and dishonour the memory of the dead place too. It's not right and I'm a man who prefers things to be done right.

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 16:35:40 [Preview] No.16935 del
>I shouldn't care, but it's not pleasant at all. They could have just wrecked the place and got it shut down, but instead they have to go and dishonour the memory of the dead place too. It's not right and I'm a man who prefers things to be done right.

Keep in mind that it's basically just something between 15-50 people you are talking about. It doesn't really matter what they think or do. Nobody outside their little safespace hideouts knows anything about it. Their "memory" of the place will not prevail any more than yours. If it still really bothers you, you can create a page about Ernstchan on Encyclopediadramatica or start an editwar on the cabbage article.

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 19:13:39 [Preview] No.16943 del
Our community runs on no moderation for two years now.
First on 8/kc/ 2016 august - 2017 march when after KC went down a bunch of - it seems - like minded people remained there. Most of us kinda had to we were mostly banned for various reasons for long intervals. As Swissbernd said, sadly some idiot had the opportunity to take over as a BO and started to moderate on the basis of:
>hurr durr that's /pol/ posting
>hurr durr checking is /v/-tier
... and others.
We fed up, moved here, and keep going despite setbacks what Endchan's technical (and financial) problems caused.
There are no have tos, dos and don'ts and never were. Everyone chooses how he posts, with or without formatting, with or without cursing or niggering or whatever. These things doesn't matter. But if people keeps civil even if "fag", "nazi", "SJW", "cuck", "/pol/tard" and other expressions are slammed into his face, it is an example and makes others keep it civil on the long run. Especially because these ad hominems aren't work and means nothing.

cont. Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 19:24:05 [Preview] No.16944 del
Banning for different opinions is a sin. Sometimes I checked Ernst, sometimes the produce of the moderation there (screenshots for example) and there were times when it was clear that the ban was for the opinion.
Even if a board is created for a specific crowd getting different opinions is part of life, people - especially those on chans - needs tougher hide and shrug it off and not cry for their safe spaces. If it's clear they doing it on purpose for causing butthurt then these needs to be ignored by the users. I can even hide threads and posts if they bother me that much.
The only problem we had when someone slipped the whole board into oblivion, so basically it's the spam. Spamming with new threads can be restricted by a threads-per-hour limit. Spamming in the threads should be also ignored by the posters (they are there for provoking reaction) and can be deleted safely (preferebly with open policy of such). Using spam as excuse to oppress different opinion is also detestable.
Losing posters because of said measures is no concern, if they can be lost for that they don't matter anyway.
It's an old axiom, on anonymous imageboards posts are judged and not the individual. The judging is the replies or the lack of those. If a post get many it means it grabbed many people's attention, or was thought provoking. The content of the replies also part of the judging, but the attention the poster gets is always some kind of reward as "agent provokateurs" feed on negative replies. Denying replies the real punishment. Many provokes for banning so they can exploit it and show others how mindless or unjust was their bans. One more reason just to crap on them.

cont. Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 19:24:54 [Preview] No.16945 del
On slow boards people like their own threads and those live a long life. Keep getting replies. When new population bust in and starts rapidly producing more threads the original posters feel they should save their threads and they are right. They also can be saved with thread-per-hour limit, so they can be bumped back. Also - and this is technical side, the users can't do much about it - there should be some mechanism implemented to exclude them from deletion when would they pushed out by the newer threads which can be triggered by BOs/mods. Also thread watcher/bookmark type chan features can help to avoid lengthy searches in the Catalog.
Maybe other things will come to my mind, and probably I wasn't precise with certain things or I didn't go into necessary details but that's that.

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 20:07:28 [Preview] No.16948 del
I guess this places are connected to assburger strategy games?

Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 20:37:29 [Preview] No.16949 del
haha I can't unpin the old meta thread because I can only moderate from inside of the thread

Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 05:13:17 [Preview] No.16958 del
Kek. Tfw all the circumstances are conspiring against us.

cont. Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 05:51:41 [Preview] No.16959 del
Also "quality/good posting" is kinda fluid concept. Not always everyone can write meaningful posts or thoroughly explicate ideas or whatever. For example I created many original content and discussed seriously topics (like here >>8950 or here >>12621) but there are many examples on this board of me just writing short replies.

I think what I want to say is that without moderation we achieved about the same level of coziness what Ernst/int/ was before KC main went down for good. And in both cases this is for the small but dedicated userbase who returned to read other people's thoughts and share theirs.

Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 07:19:48 [Preview] No.16960 del
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These refugees guys have some point though. Community without moderation is easily ruined by few (sometimes even single) hardcore spammers, who have free time and energy. Small unmoderated communities often live only because such guys don't know about them or ignore them.

Although really freaky spammers are rare, much often it is triggered people who do something in response for moderation. So, EC partially did this to themselves. If moderation rules were relaxed, no one would try to attack them in mass "protest" action.

At least EC crew must be prepared for this. It is like buying the gun and storing it in case, but being afraid of use it. If you want to police your discussions, be ready to police them when someone will intentionally try to make your life harder.

But if people really want to continue the community, they'll do it. On EC or any other site, whatever, if there is demand, there will be supply. It is internet, where creating a own imageboard (or using some other) isn't hard task.

Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 16:31:06 [Preview] No.16970 del
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Hi Hungarian Bernd. How's it going?

Could you rate please kohlchan:
a)before the death of ernstchan
b)after the death of it

If possible write a few words that you like(d) or dislike(d) about Kohl.

Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 16:33:47 [Preview] No.16971 del
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Internet is all about communication. Communication is typically two way. This must be denied then it become no fun. If the troll - lets call this, that's their original name - get's banned - and again and again - he gets feedback (it doesn't matter it's negative) which tells him he's doing good because we communicate on the internet to get reaction, attention, feedback, and he gets it. And he will continue for months. If he gets none, his fun is ruined.
It's like those old internet dramas with whores and shit who can be flamed by hordes of 4/b/ trolls to finish what they're doing. They couldn't stop replying for the trolling so they got destroyed.
Here's picrel the age old chart I expect everyone knows already. It's basically describes the cycle. First they got banned for some lazy ass reason, they got angry and start provoking, more banning comes which just fuels things, until the provoked give up and close business.
It can be avoided by not banning in the first place just ignore their crap, preferably by all the users if that thing is the type it should be.
I have to add the more self-conscious the users are about their membership of that community and responsibility toward it the more it werks. In imageboards it's a bit hard because many people are socially pariah irl and don't have this mindset or very untrained and don't know how to belong somewhere.
What also helps is not taking ourselves too seriously.
Ofc I'm not saying for example our board is invincible because it's not.

Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 16:50:51 [Preview] No.16972 del
I have no clear idea how it was. Sometimes I checked it, but my only real experience was when I tried to find the drawfag German there (after I first looked at Ernst for him) which isn't much as my thread didn't get any replies, kek. Then Ernst went down, maybe next day I think.
I could lurk some now ofc, but I've many stuff to do.
Well, it's not an outright no, we'll see.

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Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 20:00:46 [Preview] No.16977 del
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>It can be avoided by not banning in the first place just ignore their crap, preferably by all the users if that thing is the type it should be.

Yes, but sometimes no. I've experienced situation when one crazy user (he was crazy in real life I guess) did much harm to some unmoderated community without any bans. He flooded community with messages (literally every second if he could) and no one could even talk. Like DDoS or something. Then owned banned him, but he started to change ips, use vpns, tor etc and continued to wipe everything almost every day. He was so driven so he did this for hours without stop, and did it by hand, without automation.

Funniest thing that he didn't even had any conflict with anyone, it just something clicked in his mind and he gone insane.

So, in these cases unmoderated communities are very vulnerable to this kind of people. I can't compare that to EC situation, but there were some similarities (like disruption by flooding), although EC's moderation was the reason. But if they want to have so restrictive moderation, it is their choice after all, so it isn't good to blame only them.

Although in most situations what you wrote is true.

Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 20:15:49 [Preview] No.16979 del
I see the point you make.
I think the root of the problem in Ernst case is that there were Ernst who wanted to preserve the board he loved and came the mass of refugees who also wanted to continue what they were used to on KC main.
I don't even understand why EC was chosen by them or the majority of them. I think the decision had many components of course, everything is multicasual. Many times were said that Ernst had the most life, it seemed reliable compared to End which was down a lot in that period when KC main was done for good. But what made the first groups of them to be there?
And when was the first case? I didn't hear about EC before we moved here in March of 2017. Three days after that KC main went down and refugees came and chattered where to go and that was the first time I heard about Ernst. Was it used as bunker previously?

Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 20:26:53 [Preview] No.16981 del
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Fuckin Hungarobernds fuckin seriously fuckin disgrace...

Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 20:31:55 [Preview] No.16983 del
I don't really know about EC much, I'm local /kc/ Russian, not the one from this thread (and I'm from 2017 wave). Looks like they already had established community in 2017 at least.

I guess EC "won" status of new KC because it was faster and had community, so newcomer could jump into discussion without waiting (many Bernds can't start threads on their own). Endchan was very slow and dead-looking even with refugees.

Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 20:40:36 [Preview] No.16984 del
Maybe an Ernst who drops by will have some insight.
>many Bernds can't start threads on their own
That's for sure.

Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 21:15:59 [Preview] No.16986 del
>what made the first groups of them to be there?

First wave refugees from kc knew ernst from previous kc downtimes and just chose ernst because it was cozy and had at least some activity. Other kc refugee chans were very slow or had some other issues, like 8chan/kc being 8cancer.
Ernstmods did their best to handle
the situation, users were well adapted to ec so there wasn't a problem.
Problems came only with 2nd wave of Bernds who realized some people from former kc got something going on ernst and they suddenly wanted to be included in it but had little respect for ernstchan culture and rules.

Then Kohlchan went up and they started to advertise their board on ernst with typical idiotic oneliner threads, then it became bannable to advertise kohl on ernst(in order to get rid of these cancerous onliners), then kohl-kiddies became extreme butthurt and started their spam raids, the rest is known history

Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 21:30:44 [Preview] No.16987 del
It's sad I must say. I don't know for sure, but Ernst seemed like it sprung out of an attempt to escape a change for the worse in Krautchan by a handful of dissatisfied users.
Then they're brought down by more or less the same people they didn't want any part of to begin with.

Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 21:42:50 [Preview] No.16988 del
>Then they're brought down by more or less the same people they didn't want any part of to begin with.


Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 03:06:48 [Preview] No.16989 del
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>Maybe an Ernst who drops by will have some insight.
>Ernst seemed like it sprung out of an attempt to escape a change for the worse in Krautchan by a handful of dissatisfied users

Yep. Pretty much. So the early 2017 downtime led to the creation of EC/int/ where a lot of Bernds at the time ended up congregating. It was pretty nice, some of us liked the atmosphere that was building up there on the slower site, some liked the software more, various reasons but when KC came back up, a group of us just decided that we liked it on EC and didn't go back. Some did a soft withdrawal from KC and just stayed on EC while browsing KC, but I among a couple of others did a hard withdrawal from KC and just stopped going back.

I disagree with the above poster that the first wave in March adapted well. They didn't really, and they sure as hell had no problems creating threads. They adapted better than the later waves but that was still the wave that within a day wiped all but two threads of content from EC, including a good six months worth of content including our history threads, music threads, older video game and film discussions and so on. Not only that but they felt adapted but misunderstood EC-tier to be no fun all serious, when EC was a lot of fun just fun that tended to not ruin the super chill vibe of the place. 'High-effort' is an EC2018 meme, what we actually wanted from the beginning when Bernds started arriving in 2018 was them to just not smear shit on the walls as I put it. That was the key to EC's community, that it was driven by a mutual respect for each other and our board. The new batch saw EC as a medium rather than a place. This is what led to all the 'what do you mean, stop shitposting and try and act civil, being an obnoxious faggot is imageboard cultcha' posting. They saw EC as just another imageboard and so therefore the culture of 4chan applied by default. Then the kickback to that from the other part of the new Bernds was the flawed understanding of EC and you ended up with the idea of EC-tier being no-fun becoming dominant.

One thing to remember is that all the memes of EC's moderation being strict are not true of EC when it was still EC. Before KC died in March, the only moderation was when someone was spamming. That's what the Hungarian got caught by, it was under a Hungarian proxy again and again and probably ended up with most of the Carpathian Basin under rangeban. Other than that though, there was zero moderation. That's what makes the talk about EC being moderated heavily ridiculous since it only started happening once EC had basically morphed into KC. The mod team didn't even make themselves known and posted under their national balls unless doing something official as a mod, only then did the ECball come out. It's a shame that the ways of thinking changed so quickly and we went from a more active but still housekeeping moderation as soon as KC went down, to an increasingly heavy-handed one.

So basically the death of EC is a strange event where Bernds crashed the board, forced moderator action to try and retain some place for the older crowd (this was the protection of Today threads especially), and then had infighting until it redefined what EC/int/ was about. Once the discourse changed, then none of the behaviour of any party really seemed to fit the board we knew anymore. That's when I decided to just leave for older hangouts but I kept feelers there to touch base with frens from 2017 EC. Then the board shut down because of more infighting between Bernds from Kohl and Bernds roleplaying as Ernsts. That's not to say there weren't some who fit in, but the loudest ones were the ones with the least understanding of EC. The ones that fit in just sort of slotted in and you didn't hear from them.

Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 05:19:26 [Preview] No.16990 del
Thanks for the replies. It's much clearer now. I have thoughts on this ofc but I've no time now.
Odilitime, the admin dude who shoulders the whole chan had a fun solution for the "other-chan-ads". With a word filter he made that the endchan ads are endchan/kc ads now. Ofc this can be sidestepped easily but that needs a little creativity.
I have to add noone has problems witch endchan, but seriously we know of it's existence and we would went there if we wanted. But didn't, so no reason to advertise it. While it was fairly harmless invitation it's annoying the dude always made a new thread for it.

Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 05:55:13 [Preview] No.16994 del
The spam in question was blacked spam, not ads. That is a breddy good way of dealing with ad spam though. I agree on unsolicited advertising being annoying, and if someone was continuing to advertise EC here after that initial chaos of early 2017, then it was a lone agent since nobody said anything about doing it back home. Only time I can see it happening was in later months of last year when some people were talking about advertising, but even then it shouldn't have happened.

Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 16:59:12 [Preview] No.16998 del
I meant kot-chan. For some reason I can't type non-breaking space.
And I will might be banned for mentioning it. Since then BO introduced zero-tolerance policy for that.

Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 17:00:32 [Preview] No.16999 del
I meant kot-chan. For some reason I can't type non-breaking space.
And I will might be banned for mentioning it. Since then BO introduced zero-tolerance policy for that.

Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 17:01:39 [Preview] No.17000 del
I meant kot-chan. For some reason I can't type non-breaking space.
And I will might be banned for mentioning it. Since then BO introduced zero-tolerance policy for that.

Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 17:05:37 [Preview] No.17001 del
Fucking "connection failed" error.

Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 17:33:04 [Preview] No.17003 del

That is pretty original way to spam about k*tchan here.

Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 17:45:00 [Preview] No.17004 del
What can I say, I'm a creative guy.

Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 19:43:15 [Preview] No.17006 del
This failed connection shit is pissing me off. I cannot upload images.
There were some massive spam before on /meme/ maybe there's some connection with that.

Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 20:35:34 [Preview] No.17007 del
All right. So.
We'll see what's tomorrow brings. If it needs be we'll retreat to mewch.net/int as previously agreed. The first to arrive pls create an endchan/kc/ refugee thread.
Good night, have a rest, Bernd!

Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 21:03:17 [Preview] No.17008 del
https://youtube.com/watch?v=L1v7hXEQhsQ [Embed]

God speed all

Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 01:52:40 [Preview] No.17011 del
Neo-Ernstchan is up:


Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 04:13:08 [Preview] No.17012 del
That's the one I'm on. What's the other one?

Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 04:15:56 [Preview] No.17013 del
Nvrmnd, just saw it on the front page.

Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 05:17:08 [Preview] No.17016 del
Well, that's a good news, better luck with that.

Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 05:18:35 [Preview] No.17017 del
Auto update still doesn't work I see, but small steps and we'll arrive.

Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 09:03:14 [Preview] No.17019 del

Thanks. At the moment we are rather careful with advertising it, in order to not draw too much attention of the wrong kind, so it shiould stay rather cozy place and grow only slowly for a while.

Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 15:43:11 [Preview] No.17023 del
You're just the users who liked Ernst and want similar, those who like otherwise congregates elsewhere they have no reason to go to your chan. It was set up by Ernst and not the Ernstmods whom the provocations were directed to. I think you'll do fine.

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Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 17:40:15 [Preview] No.17036 del

Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 17:48:53 [Preview] No.17038 del
Are you all right?

Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 18:19:03 [Preview] No.17040 del
All right, here's an opinion:
- It looks like old KC main.
- Most of the discourse could go on some chat service.
- I'm jelly of IWOs and such.
- The "How do I become a photographer thread seems interesting and not just for the occasional tits posted.

Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 20:00:58 [Preview] No.17043 del
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>my Jewish heritage

Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 21:58:12 [Preview] No.17050 del
Merkel was born Angela Dorothea Kasner in 1954 in Hamburg, West Germany, the daughter of Horst Kasner, a native of Berlin, and his wife Herlind, born in 1928 in Danzig (now Gdańsk, Poland) as Herlind Jentzsch. The family’s original name Kaźmierczak was Germanized to Kasner in 1930 Kazmierczak is a jewish surname. Kazmierczak derives from Kazimierz, a major jewish city in Poland, made especially for jews outside of Cracow. Kazimierz (Latin: Casimiria; Yiddish Kuzmir) is a historical district of Kraków (Poland), best known for being home to a jewish community from the 14th century. Kazmierrczak is a name for a jewish Cantor: http://www.4crests.com/kazmierczak-coat-of-arms.html This jewish surname of KAZMIERCZAK was an occupational name for a cantor in a synagogue. The name was derived from the Hebrew CHAZAN, and it also spelt CHASAN, HAZZAN, KHAZAN, CHASINOFF, KHAZONIVCH and CHASINS, to name but a few. Kazmierczak also means: “Son of Kazimeriz”. Kazimeirz is the name of the ethnic jewish quarter and community. The old jewish quarter is located in Kazimierz district, about 15 minutes of walking from the Main Square (following Starowiślna or Stradom Street). Kazimierz was established as the separate city nearby Krakow in 1335 by the king Kazimierz the Great. In 1495 a jewish town was founded in the neighbourhood , where all the Krakow’s jews moved after the routs that took place in the city. Kazimierz jews started developing as the trade and religious center, what led to its heyday in the 16th-17th. Then the Polish Kingdom was the shelter for thousands of the jews escaping from the persecutions and prejudice in different European countries. Krakow became the vivid international center of jewish culture with numerous schools, Talmudic academy, famous rabbis, cabbalists, thinkers. In 1812 the jews were allowed to settle down in all the districts of Krakow, several years later Kazimierz was incorporated into the city. Before World War II Krakow was inhabited by 65 thousands of jews.

Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 05:20:56 [Preview] No.17052 del
Kazimierz is a person name in Polish, a given name of Slavic origin. In English it's Casimir. Poland has several kings with this name, one of whom after that district of Krakow was named where Jews congregated, even what you copied here says so.
I'm not sure about this -czak ending tho maybe there's nothing in it.
On her mother side the name is Jentzsch, which is a German name.
Merkel is shit and what they did with Germany is idiotic. Is it worse if she's Jewish? No, that would be understandable. Actually it's worse because she's German. She should feel together with German people and not working toward their disappearance or mixing with Negers and Muslims.

Why don't you do it? It's not nice things to incite others to do your wörk.

Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 05:38:03 [Preview] No.17056 del
I don't think he's even German.

Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 06:27:12 [Preview] No.17057 del
See the gif: >>17036 Merkel does not care about Germany because Merkel is a jewish Pollack.
Deutsche existieren nicht
Nur Feiglinge
Das deutsche Rennen wird eliminiert
weil Sie nichts tun

Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 06:33:14 [Preview] No.17058 del
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>Das deutsche Rennen wird eliminiert


Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 15:29:47 [Preview] No.17064 del
There's literally nothing wrong with Poles.
But this thing you presented to us is off topic for ITT. Please continue here: >>17063

Bernd 06/08/2018 (Fri) 16:39:09 [Preview] No.17066 del
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>There's literally nothing wrong with Poles.
In modern times thanks to the 1968 Polish political crisis. I countered your bullshit assumption she's a "German". The kike is not.
>this thing you presented to us is off topic for ITT
Not really. Pics related.

Bernd 06/09/2018 (Sat) 09:23:49 [Preview] No.17083 del
Why don't you have a countryball?

Bernd 06/09/2018 (Sat) 09:50:13 [Preview] No.17084 del
He's using tor, you and I (and probably others) don't have due some error. I'm sure BO will check what's up and if he cannot do anything then we'll complain on operate.

Bernd 06/09/2018 (Sat) 17:37:15 [Preview] No.17094 del
>"Please don't use Tor so Germany's kike Chancellor can throw you in prison for hate speech" :(
All Germans should use Tor to avoid arrests from that mischling traitor cunt while planning her execution.

Bernd 06/09/2018 (Sat) 17:45:31 [Preview] No.17098 del
>stating which country you're from while using TOR
You're doing it wrong.

Bernd 06/09/2018 (Sat) 17:55:40 [Preview] No.17099 del
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>implying I actually stated which country I'm in

Bernd 06/09/2018 (Sat) 20:02:09 [Preview] No.17105 del
>le 56% face
Your credibility dropped suddenly to 0. How could we take you seriously from now on? I would have suggest that if you care for your nation so much than you should organize events to nurse German culture and better your compatriots with reading Goethe or whatever but now there's literally no point. Why should we invest any time to consider anything you post? Why should we bother debunking things you post, like this video above: >>17050 which you base your claim onto, that Merkel's mother tongue is Yiddish (Hebrew after our Croat friend corrected you) - which is obviously wrong, just take a look at pdf related, she thanked them with a line of Hebrew to allow her to give the whole speech in her mother tongue, which is German. So why bother? Previously you could have been a misinformed person now you're just a troll and I'll ignore all the other stuff you posted.
Of course feel free to chime in any other topic with relevant posts.

Bernd 06/10/2018 (Sun) 04:21:45 [Preview] No.17118 del
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>you posted a guy from Mad Men, so everything you have EVER said is now not credible!
And you have consistently been a dismissive sleight of hand piece of shit with every single explanation and evidence presented, that it's clear to me what your goal is. Your motivation has been 100% in favor of Merkel kike, trying to divert away from the fact that cunt is a jew who's obviously destroying Germany. You never even addressed when she disrespected the flag. You're obviously a Hungarian kike.

Bernd 06/10/2018 (Sun) 04:39:27 [Preview] No.17119 del
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Hungarian jew doesn't even want to touch the other thread. From the .pdf:
"I would like to thank all Members of the Knesset for this honour. Thank you, too,
for allowing me to speak to you today in my mother tongue." [Merkel doesn't say it's German. Hungarian jew wants that implied.]

"60 years of Israel – 60 years of magnificent work by people struggling to build a
nation under difficult circumstances.
60 years of Israel – 60 challenging years of countering threats and fighting for
peace and security.
60 years of Israel – 60 years of integrating immigrants into the body politic of this
60 years of Israel – and we have a country bursting with vitality and confidence,
capable of great technological feats, with a wealth of culture and traditions.
60 years of Israel – this is most of all an occasion for great joy. On behalf of the
Federal Government and the German people, I congratulate all citizens of Israel
on this special jubilee.
Ladies and gentlemen, Germany and Israel are and will always remain linked in a
special way by the memory of the Shoah."

"The mass murder of 6 million Jews, carried out in the name of Germany, has
brought indescribable suffering to the Jewish people, Europe and the entire
"How, for example, do we react when the atrocities of the Nazis are played down?
There can only be one response. Every attempt to trivialize these atrocities must
be nipped in the bud. Anti-Semitism, racism and xenophobia must never be
allowed to gain a foothold in Germany or Europe again"
"Masal-tov le-chaggigot shishim shanna le-medinnat Issrael. Shalom"

Bernd 06/10/2018 (Sun) 10:38:59 [Preview] No.17123 del
>not recognizing the creatura meme
Your usage of reaction images and image macros are just the topping. Here's why you are a troll:
1. You basically acknowledged you aren't German, you literally have no reason to be worked up on who Germans vote for their Kanzler/in. It's their business, not yours.
2. Your posts are teeming with fallacious reasoning.
3. You present no evidence but claims when you called out on it you present more claims saying these are evidence when one take a look those really aren't.
4. You wait for no replies you throw out new posts spam-like.
5. Your behaviour in the case of Merkel's out of the context line where it is obvious that a Jew doesn't need permission in the Jewish parliament to speak in Hebrew but for a German to speak German... is also good sign. Instead acknowledging your mistake to believe to that video you go into offense throwing out more fallacies.
This enough for me not to reply to you again, there are many constructive things to do both irl and on this board.
Btw from where I'm standing it's pretty funny to call me Jewish.

Bernd 06/10/2018 (Sun) 19:30:28 [Preview] No.17129 del
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1. You're a jew who hates image macros older than imageboards. I haven't acknowledged "not being German". I have included German in posts. But you're a lying sack of shit so no big deal.
2. Your posts are teeming with "I dismiss you because I don't want to believe it".
3. I presented mountains of evidence, but you think "muh words" are going to counter any of it.
4. New posts are new evidence. For example:
Merkel Implicated in Migration Agency Scandal Where 46 Radical Islamists Were Granted Asylum
>German Chancellor Angela Merkel has been implicated in the ongoing Federal Office for Migration and Refugees (BAMF) scandal with the former president of the agency claiming to have informed Merkel twice about the ongoing problems.
5. Merkel was thanking them for the privilege of speaking in her mother tongue, Hebrew.

Where I'm standing, it's obvious you're jewish. Your arguments are nothing but shit and you can counter nothing aside from being a dismissive cunt. All jews are like you. Now keep to your word that you're done here and shut the fuck up.

Bernd 06/11/2018 (Mon) 06:42:35 [Preview] No.17138 del
Why are you spamming a thread about EC being dood with this shit?

Bernd 06/11/2018 (Mon) 06:46:36 [Preview] No.17139 del
Because he looks like pic related and doesn't have anything better to do.

Bernd 06/11/2018 (Mon) 15:47:00 [Preview] No.17146 del
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Those type of guys are too busy to drown themselves in bier and wurst while listening to Störkraft or whatever with their buddies. Our idiot probably looks moar liek picrel. I agree that he doesn't have anything better to do.

Bernd 06/11/2018 (Mon) 21:29:13 [Preview] No.17159 del
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>fat, pink-haired dyke in a skinhead demonstration
Maybe horseshoe theory is right after all.

Bernd 06/12/2018 (Tue) 06:35:54 [Preview] No.17164 del
Hey, she's a beautiful aryan rose!

Bernd 06/13/2018 (Wed) 17:14:13 [Preview] No.17198 del
Count me in.
t. only heard second-hand tales about this great assburger haven, also Finns claimed that EC-2018 resembled it more than any other IB did

Bernd 06/13/2018 (Wed) 17:32:12 [Preview] No.17201 del
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You faggots only had to introduce worldfilter and/or change the words you don't like into something funny (like "свинья" (pig) -> "няша" autoreplacement on sosach during Great Hohlosrach). Instead you banned Ernsts left and right, triggering an opposite reaction for any chan dweller is an edgy contrarian, and drove the board into the ground as result.

On one hand I'm sad I wasn't around to support the chorus of a handful of sensible Ernsts with my feeble voice, on the other hand, you wouldn't listen anyway. At least let us hope local mods are more balanced.

Bernd 06/13/2018 (Wed) 22:34:34 [Preview] No.17207 del
Can't believe that picture is of real people.

Bernd 06/14/2018 (Thu) 06:48:39 [Preview] No.17218 del
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Because they're so aryan?

Bernd 06/14/2018 (Thu) 12:16:13 [Preview] No.17222 del
Can't help but observe that this sort of thing must be covered pretty early in any manual about propaganda and control of dissent, just saying.

Bernd 06/16/2018 (Sat) 10:46:15 [Preview] No.17285 del
hitler is dumb

Bernd 06/16/2018 (Sat) 20:09:48 [Preview] No.17309 del
Hitler is The Bomb.

Bernd 06/17/2018 (Sun) 15:57:18 [Preview] No.17318 del


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