06/06/2018 (Wed) 03:06:48
>>16984>>16987>Maybe an Ernst who drops by will have some insight.>Ernst seemed like it sprung out of an attempt to escape a change for the worse in Krautchan by a handful of dissatisfied users
Yep. Pretty much. So the early 2017 downtime led to the creation of EC/int/ where a lot of Bernds at the time ended up congregating. It was pretty nice, some of us liked the atmosphere that was building up there on the slower site, some liked the software more, various reasons but when KC came back up, a group of us just decided that we liked it on EC and didn't go back. Some did a soft withdrawal from KC and just stayed on EC while browsing KC, but I among a couple of others did a hard withdrawal from KC and just stopped going back.
I disagree with the above poster that the first wave in March adapted well. They didn't really, and they sure as hell had no problems creating threads. They adapted better than the later waves but that was still the wave that within a day wiped all but two threads of content from EC, including a good six months worth of content including our history threads, music threads, older video game and film discussions and so on. Not only that but they felt adapted but misunderstood EC-tier to be no fun all serious, when EC was a lot of fun just fun that tended to not ruin the super chill vibe of the place. 'High-effort' is an EC2018 meme, what we actually wanted from the beginning when Bernds started arriving in 2018 was them to just not smear shit on the walls as I put it. That was the key to EC's community, that it was driven by a mutual respect for each other and our board. The new batch saw EC as a medium rather than a place. This is what led to all the 'what do you mean, stop shitposting and try and act civil, being an obnoxious faggot is imageboard cultcha' posting. They saw EC as just another imageboard and so therefore the culture of 4chan applied by default. Then the kickback to that from the other part of the new Bernds was the flawed understanding of EC and you ended up with the idea of EC-tier being no-fun becoming dominant.
One thing to remember is that all the memes of EC's moderation being strict are not true of EC when it was still EC. Before KC died in March, the only moderation was when someone was spamming. That's what the Hungarian got caught by, it was under a Hungarian proxy again and again and probably ended up with most of the Carpathian Basin under rangeban. Other than that though, there was zero moderation. That's what makes the talk about EC being moderated heavily ridiculous since it only started happening once EC had basically morphed into KC. The mod team didn't even make themselves known and posted under their national balls unless doing something official as a mod, only then did the ECball come out. It's a shame that the ways of thinking changed so quickly and we went from a more active but still housekeeping moderation as soon as KC went down, to an increasingly heavy-handed one.
So basically the death of EC is a strange event where Bernds crashed the board, forced moderator action to try and retain some place for the older crowd (this was the protection of Today threads especially), and then had infighting until it redefined what EC/int/ was about. Once the discourse changed, then none of the behaviour of any party really seemed to fit the board we knew anymore. That's when I decided to just leave for older hangouts but I kept feelers there to touch base with frens from 2017 EC. Then the board shut down because of more infighting between Bernds from Kohl and Bernds roleplaying as Ernsts. That's not to say there weren't some who fit in, but the loudest ones were the ones with the least understanding of EC. The ones that fit in just sort of slotted in and you didn't hear from them.