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Tech Thread Bernd 05/16/2018 (Wed) 18:34:14 [Preview] No. 16528
Newest Edition, with less Ghork.


First thing first:
That dude of the Primitive Technology channel and all his copycats have a great advantage: access to unlimited supply of bamboo. Unlimited to their objectives. That stuff is great, tuff as shit, light as feather, can be used to many purpose with little modification and not too much work.

I also read most of this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation#Responsibility_and_accountability
I think technology and it's use are running forward and lawmakers lag behind. Those who spent any time in the past two decades on the internet have a giant heap of data about them. I think Bernd posted a video about a security eggsbert, I think he works kind of a private investigator many time cooperating with officials and he said in that video anonymizing data worth nothing it can be de-anonymized with ease, and both companies and govt agencies do.
Now this law was passed at 2016. This year the EU countries have to start implementing it. Who knows how long it takes until it finishes. The whole stuff is kinda vague (it can be modified when necessary tho), and I don't know for example how the EU can force a foreign company to do whatever? There are sanctions but what jurisdiction the EU has over a US based firm for example Facebook and how the EU will force the sanctions onto for example said company?


Bernd 05/17/2018 (Thu) 09:08:17 [Preview] No.16534 del
>GDPR

I've heard different opinions, but looks like this isn't very positive thing. First - it is that type of law that can be used against literally anyone because it has very wide terms. For example, even having technical logs of web server may be a target for criminal case, or even some small server apps like fail2ban can be counted as personal data processing things. Of course no one in sane mind would do this, but that is the point: having law that may be used against anyone is pretty totalitarian thing. "If we don't like you, we can easily fuck you legally and you can do nothing against it" - that is what government really thinks. So, it is easier to find another excuse to fine (or put into jail) on those whose government doesn't like.

It is really bad for small business, now they need to maintain much larger infrastructure for logging access to data etc. So, spending will increase, and then prices. Larger players like Facebook also had problems, but they have resources and time, so they'll become stronger and small companies weaker (or die). Another step to monopolization - make running own commercial web service harder. It is especially fun when going into court is costly - someone may hire a lawyer and start the process against you for messing with personal data, and even if you win, you'll spend tremendous amount of time and money in court. So, to prevent this, company would start to do different types of certifications, audits etc, i.e. transfer money from own pocket to some third-party "trusted" parasites. For some small family-owned company that has registration on site it is easier to close the site than do all that shit. Or go to some third-party service for storing personal data (that of course can be "trusted" because it will be "certified" by government and so).

Some services already gone: https://www.tunngle.net/

Will it stop Facebook or Google or someone big from selling your data to third parties? Of course no, it just is easier to you to see that they did it, although they state this almost openly in ToS already. Yes, it will be easier to delete your account (and that part also has exception that allows company to store data for long time if they need).

Looks like it is same nonsense like cookie law but now with real harm.


Bernd 05/17/2018 (Thu) 15:15:45 [Preview] No.16538 del
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>>16534
>make a new law based on the Zuckerberg trials to remove power from big companies
>it actually gives them more power
EU: not even once


Bernd 05/17/2018 (Thu) 16:04:59 [Preview] No.16540 del
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Here's the actual text, maybe someone interested:
https://gdpr-info.eu/


Bernd 05/17/2018 (Thu) 17:28:51 [Preview] No.16543 del
>>16534
I'm glad you summed up things from the other side. I had no time to think about how it affects the "data controllers".


Bernd 05/19/2018 (Sat) 14:13:00 [Preview] No.16573 del
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https://www.rt.com/news/427199-russia-reusable-spaceship-soyuz/
So what kind of goods are produced in space?


Bernd 05/20/2018 (Sun) 10:28:48 [Preview] No.16581 del
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>>16573
I don't know about ISS, but I've read about work on past Soviet stations, and there were plenty of things they could bring back from station. For example, something like metal details made on experimental zero-g metal casting equipment or results of botanical experiments.

Although amount of this is rarely large, so they could bring everything with crew on rotation. Maybe supply will create demand.

But Roskosmos promised to build Soyuz-based transport ship in 2006, and they still moving dates to future, now it is 2022. They also promised base on moon in 2015. I guess that impotent organization wouldn't do anything.


Bernd 05/20/2018 (Sun) 13:39:34 [Preview] No.16582 del
What these channels like Primitive Technology's and his copycats don't tell you - or rather their videos don't give back that type of experience - is that all the stuff they make are a result of awfully lot of work.
Judging by a 10-20 min video one could think: "oh that's so easy, I'm gonna gave fun on the weekend recreate their projects" or worse: "I'll quit my job and live on my DIY, off the grid homestead built from scratch by the materials I find in nature" and off he goes. Then comes the frustration of the slowness of the work and the back pain from the crouching and lifting for hours and hours days after days.
Making over 9000 mudbricks to build a deplorable little cabin is no fun for 99.9% of the romantic minded delicate city dwellers.


Bernd 05/20/2018 (Sun) 13:40:28 [Preview] No.16583 del
>>16582
*I'm gonna have fun


Bernd 05/23/2018 (Wed) 19:23:48 [Preview] No.16619 del
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Oy vey.
But does it mean Endchan will finally stable?

Not that much left from our board, the chance that we won't dwindle slowly into total inactivity gone with the much downtime, as KC migrants left, even those who would have remained otherwise. To be frank, I much contemplated on giving up posting altogether in the past 24 hours. The regulars now irregulars, no discussions, and really these few people are discussed so much what's left?
Ehh, we'll see.


Bernd 05/23/2018 (Wed) 19:28:53 [Preview] No.16620 del
>>16619
feels bad man


Bernd 05/23/2018 (Wed) 19:34:43 [Preview] No.16621 del
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>>16620
It's does.

Now I plan write some more football, and wait for the World Cup, maybe give it a try and make polanball drawings of the matches like picrel, but never did such thing so I dunno if I can manage to make it look good.


Bernd 05/23/2018 (Wed) 19:36:01 [Preview] No.16622 del
>>16621
I'm pretty sure I would need a drawing tablet how is it called.


Bernd 05/23/2018 (Wed) 19:41:36 [Preview] No.16623 del
>>16621
I would be down to watch the World Cup with you guys, not sure how interested /sp/ would be. I don't think USA qualified this year?


Bernd 05/23/2018 (Wed) 20:22:29 [Preview] No.16625 del
>>16623
We'll see. It starts on June 14.
>I don't think USA qualified this year?
She didn't. Maybe they thought they can make their own world cup tournament in soccer as well.


Bernd 05/30/2018 (Wed) 04:52:24 [Preview] No.16726 del
GDPR in action
https://www.rt.com/news/428175-facebook-privacy-trick-red-dots/
And actually this is fucking bullshit.
>requiring the user to agree to the entire privacy policy and new terms in one document
What's the problem with that? You've already had to agree to the full policy ones when you made an account, so what would change if they made the whole thing separate?
>By not making it clear to the Facebook user that they didn’t have to agree to the policy and could opt to delete their account.
It's peer pressure that keeps people in, not the obscure delete option. Those who want to delete it can and will, the others don't even read anything, don't even try to inform themselves about anything.

This case is just some red herring to obscure the real problems. That they still sell their data, make people addicts,. depressed and destroy actual social life replacing it with an artificial and empty one.


Bernd 05/30/2018 (Wed) 04:57:08 [Preview] No.16727 del
>>16726
Oh and other problems, like they don't really delete an account, that they make shadow accounts for those who don't have one, the profiling and other over 1488+ violation of human rights, their monopoly and shit like that which were all questions at the Zuck hearing but he answered "I don't know, we just helping to create targeted ads". And all these questions weren't answered and never will.


Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 16:55:01 [Preview] No.17026 del
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Tfw there's money for this bullshit.
http://norman-ai.mit.edu/
First this trend that they call every fucking thing an AI when it's not an AI. Fucking pocket calculator is an AI now. Why not just baptise every algorithm AI? It would sound modern and advanced. Just look how Endchan's AI helps me visualize my thoughts to you.
Second programs don't have empathy. Psychopatism one sure component is the lack of compassion toward other people. By definition every program is a "psychopath".
Third if they make a database basically only of gruesome pictures then of course a program will only recognize this kind of stuff in every pattern they feed to it after that. Wow. Such a sensation.


Bernd 06/20/2018 (Wed) 17:41:37 [Preview] No.17437 del
>>17436
At about 0:49 the dude talks about how the small news sites will survive if search engines (like google and bing) have to pay for the snippets of articles. I believe he means smaller search engines, because this actually helps news sites, small and large.
Watched for a while, but I think I won't finish it. Again these people try to regulate something they have no idea about, but I bet they got nice fat sums into their pockets from lobbyists.


Bernd 06/20/2018 (Wed) 17:46:36 [Preview] No.17438 del
>>17436
Also this guy sounds like the anchors on RT.


Bernd 06/21/2018 (Thu) 13:38:29 [Preview] No.17447 del
I recently read a blog article that said China contributed little to open source.

https://medium.com/inside-machine-learning/is-open-source-alive-in-china-3f606aafbd3b
I read it because I didn't agree with a Taiwanese who said that China didn't contribute. I was wrong again.


Bernd 06/21/2018 (Thu) 14:56:57 [Preview] No.17449 del
>>17447
Chi-coms step over injured babies in the street, why would they be in to open source?


Bernd 06/21/2018 (Thu) 15:54:25 [Preview] No.17451 del
>>17449
Isn't it in the article?

>>17447
>I was wrong again.
That's life, so the proof that you live as well.


Bernd 06/22/2018 (Fri) 14:52:41 [Preview] No.17471 del
What I don't understand is why there are narcotic substance in natural plants.
The funny thing is these substance might enter the environment and interact with other animals and plants. I don't know what does this mean


Bernd 06/22/2018 (Fri) 16:29:10 [Preview] No.17476 del
>>17471
Maybe it's a defensive mechanism against pests and/or herbivores.


Bernd 06/22/2018 (Fri) 21:30:27 [Preview] No.17489 del
>>17471
There are plenty things that looks strange, like toxin-resistant animals who bear poison inside and so on. Sometimes it is hard to imagine that evolution (that must be slow and gradual) can give life to these creatures without them going extinct in process.


Bernd 06/23/2018 (Sat) 23:35:50 [Preview] No.17498 del
>>17489
That's whats confusing to me too. Biology and ecology and evolution are so complicated to me. They involve so many interactions
I mean I heard that some inspects eat toxic plants to accumulate toxin in itself. So that's a result of million years of evolution.
Then we have this news of the chemicals made by human activities (antibiotics, hormones, heavy metals) affecting the natural environment.
Makes me wonder if the two things are related


Bernd 06/26/2018 (Tue) 12:29:02 [Preview] No.17549 del
>>17498
>I mean I heard that some inspects eat toxic plants to accumulate toxin in itself. So that's a result of million years of evolution.

I don't understand fully how this is "started". As far as I know, mutations coulnd't be very serious or subject will die, so process must be slow. For example, some snake gets very lightly toxic substance in saliva for some reason. If it gets more, it could die from own toxin.

Or same thing with horns, non-horned animal couldn't easily grow large horn in few generation, it must be slow thickening of bone that will result in horn in million years.

But these small steps aren't good for survival. If some cow has slightly more thick head bone, it doesn't really increases survival chance - there is much more random things like muscles etc, so this bone factor wouldn't be noticed. It would give preference to subject only when it grows much more. And mutations happen in random, so there will be no trend to increase that factor.


Bernd 06/26/2018 (Tue) 20:03:05 [Preview] No.17571 del
>>17559
Well again the large companies can tell what the decision makers should think on stuff they don't know nothing about. And not just the technology itself isn't understood by them but it's use.


Bernd 07/07/2018 (Sat) 00:00:15 [Preview] No.17783 del
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So I wrote some (faily superficial) intro about GIMP and animation for our hungarobernd here >>17775 but that thread is mostly unrelated so I suppose I couldn't do worse by posting it here...

Well, actually not so much more to say but let's see, first I should say that I didn't actually use any of the plug-ins since what I needed was very simple

As mentioned, for involved animation work some plug-in is necessary because there's almost none of the typical animation devices built-in, for example there's no timeline. The most featureful one is GAP (which for my system comes in a separate package), though still not a typical animation system, instead more like a collection of animation-related tools. It's a relatively complex array of tools so I won't say more, you should read the tutorials in the official documentation. Then there's also this FAnim plug-in which is evidently much simpler, maybe too simple
https://github.com/douglasvini/gimp-fanim

actually, if you need to animate seriously perhaps should just use some other appropriate tool, maybe Krita or Synfig:
https://docs.krita.org/en/user_manual/animation.html
https://www.synfig.org/

however, if you just need to run through a few handdrawn frames then you simply make each one into a layer (bottom-most layer is the initial frame). You can use layers normally for editing but at the end of the process there should be one visible layer for each frame. Some remarks:
- you can control frame period (and therefore frame rate) globally in the GIF export window
- to override the period of individual frames you edit the corresponding layer's name so that it includes the text '(<period>ms)' where <period> is some integer duration in milliseconds
- similarly, you can override the 'transition method' between frames: if you put '(replace)' in the name then the frame replaces the previous, while '(combine)' merges the frame into the previous (the default is to combine)
- useful things under Filters/Animation:
* the Playback tool for previewing
* the Optimise for GIF tool for reducing file size: assuming the frames are combined, it will remove redundant pixels
* the few pre-made effects are mildly interesting but AFAICS they apply to the whole image, so in order to combine them you would need to separate parts of the image into different documents apply the filters and then blend the parts again into a single composite animation. this quickly becomes unwieldy doing manually and is the kind of process that GAP should help you manage.


Bernd 07/07/2018 (Sat) 00:03:59 [Preview] No.17784 del
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>>17783
That thing about editing the layer name to change the frame properties is a blatant hack. This was bothersome for me because I needed to control the timing of frames broadly over dozens of frames and doing so manually was obviously out the question so I wrote some bydlo-level lisp to automate that. Here is simple example:

(define (-1+ n)
(- n 1))

(define (rename-all-layers image renamer)
(let*
((res (gimp-image-get-layers image))
(nlayers (car res))
(layers (vector->list (cadr res)))
(loop
(lambda (total-layers layers)
(if (> (length layers) 0)
(let*
((layer (car layers))
(layer-index (-1+ (length layers)))
(layer-name (renamer layer layer-index total-layers)))
(begin
(display "calling (gimp-item-set-name ")
(display layer)
(display " ")
(display layer-name)
(display ")\n")
(gimp-item-set-name layer layer-name)
(loop total-layers (cdr layers))))
(display "done\n")))))
(loop nlayers layers)))

(define (rename-all-frames-with-duration-curve image duration-func)
(let
((frame-renamer
(lambda (layer index total-layers)
(string-append "frame "
(number->string index)
" ("
(number->string (duration-func total-layers index))
"ms)"))))
(rename-all-layers image frame-renamer)))

(define (rename-all-frames-with-constant-duration image duration-ms)
(rename-all-frames-with-duration-curve image (lambda (t i) duration-ms)))

; time(index) = -2*(index-total/2)**2 + max_time
(define (square-timer total-layers layer-index)
(let ((max-duration 150))
(trunc (round (+ (* -2 (pow (- layer-index (/ total-layers 2)) 2)) max-duration)))))


Then entering something like:

(rename-all-frames-with-duration-curve 1 square-timer)


Would rename all layers in image with ID '1' (use '(gimp-image-list)' to list IDs) so that each frame period is determined by a polynomial (the 'square-timer' function). The result in this case would be the frame rate smoothly decreasing at a quadratic rate from start until middle of the animation and then increasing again. to change the timing you change the function (to make it more general one would need to implement some bezier algorithm here)

So that's the memo.


sage Bernd 07/07/2018 (Sat) 00:06:32 [Preview] No.17785 del
>>17784
fucku endchan that code is properly indented


Bernd 07/07/2018 (Sat) 07:05:40 [Preview] No.17790 del
>>17783
>to override the period of individual frames you edit the corresponding layer's name so that it includes the text
That's a tip that I needed! I remember setting different times from years ago but not how I did it.
I'll look into the GAP.

>>17784
That is something I surely won't use but thanks anyway I read it through, it could be prove useful in some other way.

>>17785
You also didn't säge properly. For some reason it's not easy to do that here.


Bernd 07/08/2018 (Sun) 09:48:58 [Preview] No.17808 del
>>17785
bo could patch css:
pre {
white-space: pre-wrap;
line-height: 75%;
}


Bernd 07/11/2018 (Wed) 15:14:37 [Preview] No.17857 del
>>17808
While not many codes are written on our boards if BO can he should fix it. No pressure tho.


Bernd 07/12/2018 (Thu) 16:37:43 [Preview] No.17891 del
>>17857
>>17808
Okay I found 2 css files on my computer, one from april that was retrieved from internet archive and one from may that I don't know it's origin. I'm assuming later is the current one but let me know if something stops working. Sadly endchan doesn't allow modification of currently uploaded css file, I have to upload entire file again.


Bernd 07/14/2018 (Sat) 08:03:46 [Preview] No.17907 del
>>17891
Ok now, and no needed old Css file is need simply download css browser according URL: http://endchan.net/kc/custom.css http://s6424n4x4bsmqs27.onion/kc/custom.css
e.g.


Bernd 07/21/2018 (Sat) 07:08:54 [Preview] No.18025 del
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So last Saturday I made a piece of cordage from stinging nettle then I tore the end so I stopped because I didn't have much more fibers anyway. Because I made it fresh it was full of water which soaked my skin and I got blisters during work. I think the technique is called reverse-wrap and it needs for me to hold the cord tight and twist it which was hard on my wet skin.
Next day I gathered more nettle and processed it into fibers (look at those hairs on pic #2) and let it dry for a day which also gave some time for my hands to heal. Then I started a new cord and made a little bit every day. Now I have 2m and 30cm long cordage and enough fibers for at least the double of it if not triple.
I primitive technology nao!


Bernd 07/21/2018 (Sat) 07:41:49 [Preview] No.18026 del
Rope making is an ancient trade I'm sure there are several ways to do it and many plants to use (e.g. ancient Egyptians used palm fibers I think). One can find bunch of videos on youtube for example how to do it from stinging nettle. This dude makes precise instructional vids of such things:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=DFJPlp3hic8 [Embed]
I do the splicing little bit differently: if one ends starts to be too thin or it ends soon I put another fiber there bended asymmetrically (usually very asymmetrically). To be honest I do very bad job as my string has varied thickness not just there where I splice it. At certain places it is very awkward to thin the fibers, mature nettle grow "branches" and these leave s little stump on the fiber after I get rid of them.
I suspect I should tear the fibers into more thinner strands and roll a bunch together for use.

Here's another instructional by Ray Mears with a different technique (well it's the same in it's core):
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lQHvqWCN5Eo [Embed]


Bernd 07/21/2018 (Sat) 20:17:54 [Preview] No.18033 del
>>18025
>how to kill yourself in a survival situation
kek


Bernd 07/21/2018 (Sat) 20:30:37 [Preview] No.18034 del
>>18033
You probably die of starvation before you make enough rope out of nettle that sturdy enough to hang yourself.



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