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Useless news from Taiwan Bernd 03/18/2018 (Sun) 12:57:11 [Preview] No. 14590
1. One woman killed her husband's sister. They shared an small apartment and had lots of arguments. Allegedly after a fight over inheritance, the woman killed the relative, then sealed the dead body with concret in her room. Somehow her husband didn't notice his sister didn't come out from her room for three days, until the company the sister worked for began to worry for her.
2. A controversial writer died. He had been a political prisoner in martial law era and a lawmaker later.
3. Coal power plant expansion program got into controversy.


Bernd 03/18/2018 (Sun) 13:06:08 [Preview] No.14591 del
Earlier this year there was a woman starved to death in her rooftop add on. Here sister lives a level below her but reported that they rarely talked to each other so she didn't know if she was alive.


Bernd 03/18/2018 (Sun) 13:39:40 [Preview] No.14595 del
Oh, hai Taiwan. I haven't seen you here. Welcome, and check the catalog you might find a thread that interests you!


Bernd 03/18/2018 (Sun) 13:58:45 [Preview] No.14598 del
The problem of reading local image board is that sometimes I found I am the problem of my country. It's a terrible guilty feeling


Bernd 03/18/2018 (Sun) 14:09:56 [Preview] No.14602 del
>>14598
I thought the problem of your country is communists.


Bernd 03/18/2018 (Sun) 14:27:29 [Preview] No.14603 del
>>14602
You might say that. We have price control and compulsory health care and some kind of pension tax

I am so tired but I don't want to sleep and wake up in Monday.


Bernd 03/18/2018 (Sun) 14:30:58 [Preview] No.14605 del
>>14603
A new day a new opportunity. You should start it with rested mind and body.


Bernd 03/18/2018 (Sun) 14:42:34 [Preview] No.14607 del
>>14602
You are right. I should accept it by now...staying up late never bring me any good.


Bernd 03/18/2018 (Sun) 14:45:43 [Preview] No.14608 del
>>14605
Thank you.


Bernd 03/18/2018 (Sun) 14:46:59 [Preview] No.14609 del
>>14607
You have to get up you don't have a choice on that. But you can influence how you will do it. You can be tired and unsuitable to face the day or fresh and focused, ready to make it how you like it to be.

>>14608
Of course.


Bernd 04/12/2018 (Thu) 14:19:57 [Preview] No.15872 del
Today I want to tell you. Republic of China is a mistake. It's created by USA miscalculation during Korean War. It's not in USA or the regions best interest.
I am not pro independence or anything. But ROC's gain is USA's losss


Bernd 04/12/2018 (Thu) 14:29:34 [Preview] No.15873 del
>>15872
Every foreign policy the USA has been engaged in since the 1960s has had blowback and was miscalculated. This is why our Founders warned us about interventionalism in the first place!


Bernd 04/12/2018 (Thu) 15:46:56 [Preview] No.15874 del
>>15873
>Founders
Ivan IV?


Bernd 04/12/2018 (Thu) 17:24:25 [Preview] No.15877 del
>>15872
>I am not pro independence or anything.
you are just pro usa then

>But ROC's gain is USA's losss
let's hope for a great gain for china then


Bernd 04/12/2018 (Thu) 20:04:11 [Preview] No.15881 del
>>15872
>Republic of China is a mistake. It's created by USA miscalculation during Korean War

But isn't Taiwan is the original authentic China, not tainted by years of commie mismanagement with all their sparrow hunting and cultural cleansing?

Who cares about USA.


Bernd 04/13/2018 (Fri) 02:42:19 [Preview] No.15883 del
>>15874
Batu Khan


Bernd 04/13/2018 (Fri) 05:32:23 [Preview] No.15887 del
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Bernd 04/13/2018 (Fri) 14:52:26 [Preview] No.15890 del
Back in early 1950s republic of China got no support and was almost lost.
But Korean War happened so USA supported ROC
General MacArthur made several mistakes so the war fell into stalemate.

Some scholars in Taiwan noted that ROC's influence on USA didn't help them but instead prolonged the stalemate.
One can also say that ROC is almost like south Vietnam.


Bernd 04/13/2018 (Fri) 17:01:02 [Preview] No.15896 del
>>15872
So it's a good mistake? Noone cares about the US anyway.


Bernd 04/15/2018 (Sun) 03:10:24 [Preview] No.15943 del
Guess Who, a PTS program, gets English dubbing and subtitles. It seems they want it to be a showcase for foreigners.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4G8FanAR15E [Embed]
This episode is about a family with ADHD kid
The season 9 was better. It has a family on a remote island


Bernd 04/15/2018 (Sun) 04:14:42 [Preview] No.15944 del
This year's Mazu goddess processsion worked again and there is a brawl between local gangsters as usual


Bernd 04/15/2018 (Sun) 07:37:41 [Preview] No.15946 del
>>15944
Do you take part in such processes? Or brawls?


Bernd 04/26/2018 (Thu) 12:39:28 [Preview] No.16096 del
>>15946
I didn't go but my colleagues did. They seemed very experienced with the processions. But they hated the brawl


Bernd 04/26/2018 (Thu) 16:03:59 [Preview] No.16101 del
>>16096
Thanks for the repeated answer.
Sadly the guys running Endchan kinda ruined things for us, lots of valued post lost. But that's life, you learn it by fucking up.


Bernd 04/30/2018 (Mon) 13:32:18 [Preview] No.16195 del
A fire broke out in a print circuit board factory. two Thai workers died. Five firemen died. 2 more are still in critical condition.
The boss of the factory denied that he gave wrong information to the firemen.


Bernd 04/30/2018 (Mon) 14:19:54 [Preview] No.16199 del
>>16195
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Adgx9wt63NY [Embed]


Bernd 05/24/2018 (Thu) 23:44:59 [Preview] No.16646 del
A man broke into a dentist clinic and killed the dentist.
It's reported that he is the brother of an assistant who works there and he is mentally unstable. He had shown up in the clinic before and asked the assistant for money.

I guess this will make it harder for mentally ill people in general. The employers would not want to hire man with relatives now. So relatives would cut ties from mentally ill relatives


Bernd 05/25/2018 (Fri) 05:07:24 [Preview] No.16649 del
>>16646
Good to see you again.
Sometimes soon I'm visiting my dentist. I hope won't be any such trouble there.


Bernd 05/25/2018 (Fri) 05:10:17 [Preview] No.16650 del
so when will the PRC fall


Bernd 05/25/2018 (Fri) 05:20:14 [Preview] No.16652 del
>>16650
Any time now. Keep up the trade war.


Bernd 05/25/2018 (Fri) 12:42:03 [Preview] No.16656 del
>>16649
Dentist appointment is very important.

1. One 14 yo girl ran away from home two moths before school placement exam. She came back home and soon committed suicide. It's suspected that she had been raped. Then one video appeared online. It was a gang beating up a young man who confessed to the camera that she raped the girl and deserved to be punished by the gangsters
2. One 5 yo girl died and her injury implied she was raped. Her uncle was suspected. Today 300 random people gathered and stormed the man's house and terrified the grandma.


Bernd 05/25/2018 (Fri) 12:55:23 [Preview] No.16657 del
Last piece of news today.
Top High schools of the island reported that this year there is a surge in number of students who applied for top universities in mainland. This seems to be the result of rise of those schools ranking and international reputation. But they may also be attracted by the preferential treatment mainland government promised to people on island. This news follows a previous national controversy on our government tried to ban officials from taking jobs in mainland schools

Now our schools don't seem to admit Chinese diploma and certificates I might be wrong about that. Our laws also prohibit agencies from recruiting students for mainland schools


Bernd 05/25/2018 (Fri) 14:08:36 [Preview] No.16658 del
Sometimes I have the delusion that I am a genius. But if I list the sources where I get my ideas I notice that there is nothing genius about it.


Bernd 05/25/2018 (Fri) 17:27:17 [Preview] No.16664 del
>>16657
How will RC stop PRC's brain drain?
Do those who decide to learn in mainland schools get communist indoctrination in any way?
I'm guessing the official view on RC is that she isn't even exist.


Bernd 05/25/2018 (Fri) 23:23:22 [Preview] No.16669 del
>>16664
There are already one or two millions Taiwanese working with kids in China and they reported they got no problems with mainland's emphasis on official political ideals in workplace
Taiwanese agrees that China is about market economy now, and are ok with mainland being governed by communist party. So they got no problem with that part.
The only thing that makes them uncomfortable is the controversy between unification and Taiwanese nationalism, which isn't a problem of indoctrination. It seems the more you teach about it the more they hate it.

There are many things in china we can learn from. Computer application. Mobile payment like Alipay or something. Good translated books. Chinese literature and cultures. Railroad tech maybe. I just heard that their environmental laws and air pollution control are admired by Taiwanese environmentalists.

Five years ago I heard a professor complaining that our grad students still have stereotypical ideas against china and don't want to go there even when the schools there are top ranked in the world. Now there is this "controversy" I think it's a good development.

There might be a problem when our kids entered their best schools with preferential admission policies though. People generally look down upon classmates who got there by preferential policies. This might add more stereotypes among mainlanders about Taiwanese people.


Bernd 05/25/2018 (Fri) 23:35:03 [Preview] No.16671 del
>>16669
>There are many things in china we can learn from. Computer application.
>Railroad tech maybe.

That looks strange because from outside Taiwan looks like high-tech society, and mainland is only trying to reach Taiwan level of technical progress.


Bernd 05/26/2018 (Sat) 04:58:07 [Preview] No.16672 del
>>16671
It's hard to tell. It seems Taiwan had some leads in computer chips. But it's unlikely that Taiwan is ahead of China in every industry. Besides we are prepared for China getting ahead of us with their economic growth etc.
the railway tech is probably china's strength. If we build another MRT system we might hire a Chinese contractor.
Solar panels and wind turbines...I am not sure whose is more efficient. I only know that China had deployed more.
It seems safe to say their software development is ahead of us. Most softwares you get their versions first. Their search engines seem better too


Bernd 05/27/2018 (Sun) 19:02:07 [Preview] No.16698 del
>>16672
They might have more people to put on innovation due larger population.
How's Hong Kong's intergartion?
How Taiwan sees to future? Do people wish to remain independent?


Bernd 05/28/2018 (Mon) 06:45:33 [Preview] No.16703 del
>>16698
From what I know of Chinese history all it takes is one savvy emperor to unite the subcontinent. I'd start testing the youths for imperial compatibility.


Bernd 05/28/2018 (Mon) 12:08:24 [Preview] No.16706 del
>>16698
Taiwanese people seems to prefer independence. For this reason the news we report from Hong Kong are all negative about their integration.
Objectively speaking there should be some good integration. The hongkong Chinese co production movies are the only success I can think of.


Bernd 05/28/2018 (Mon) 12:24:20 [Preview] No.16709 del
News today
1. A man went to a guy's house to collect debt. The guy has set up a "private temple" in his house (I don't know how to translate this. It means the temple is set up without consensus of other temples)
The guy's father illegally owned a pistol and he used it to shoot dead the debt collector and is arrested. It probably doesn't count as self defense.

2. An old man is arrested for killing his wife. They have been disputing about division of property and divorce for a long time. The old man killed his wife and dismembered her and hid it in his house.

3. A young man killed his gf and hanged himself. The woman is said to work in a foreign company and had degrees in foreign language from our two most prestigious schools. The guy used to work in a gym as a coach. The guy had one divorce and was accused of doing domestic violence. The guy seemed to killed her in their apartment suite, then dismembered her and bury the parts in apartment garden. He then hanged himself in a hotel room.


Bernd 05/28/2018 (Mon) 15:02:52 [Preview] No.16710 del
Is there any chance for a Han Union - ethnically Chinese territories uniting in a non-authoritarian community?
Cantonese, Hokkien, Shanghainese and other Chinese languages and cultures shouldn't dissapear. Also controlling the Tibetans and Mongolians and other minorities must be more work than it's worth it. Having a ceremonial Emperor could give a common base.


Bernd 05/29/2018 (Tue) 15:43:20 [Preview] No.16721 del
>>16709
>It probably doesn't count as self defense.
Probably. Kek.
Otherwise interesting to read both about the events in the life of little people and the interaction between the two Chinas.
Here we don't know or hear much about that corner of the world. To sum up what we usually know:
1. China now is half commie half capitalist
2. Taiwan is capitalist
3. both grew economically in the past decades a lot
4. both has fast development in tech
5. both produces inexpensive but not durable and/or unreliable stuff in large quantities, "lot, cheap" as we say it
6. China show much interest in Central Eastern Europe, but mostly talk and less walk
Umm that's it.
One Hungary related: we sell citizenship to Chinese people by the dozen, which equals to EU citizenship.

>>16710
That's an interesting idea. But I think we know the answer.


Bernd 05/30/2018 (Wed) 06:48:11 [Preview] No.16728 del
>>16706
Hong Kong is wonderful because it has capitalism and plenty of money.
If information becomes ambiguous like integrated mainland China and crafty acts by the government are accepted, the merit of Hong Kong will decrease.
>>16672
After introducing German and Japanese vehicles, China's railroad just improved the width etc.
Computer applications could be developed with a closed constitution that does not care about trademark rights and closeness that almost domestically achieves.


Bernd 05/30/2018 (Wed) 06:59:39 [Preview] No.16729 del
>>16672
The birthrate of both China and Taiwan is less than two. The period during which the birthrate was lower than Japan is short, but the population increase is due to the aging population.


Bernd 05/31/2018 (Thu) 16:16:28 [Preview] No.16753 del
>>16709
long time no see, Taiwan.


Bernd 06/01/2018 (Fri) 10:58:53 [Preview] No.16772 del
1. In 2015, Supriyanto, an Indonesian fish worker, died on a far field fishing boat under Taiwanese crew and owner. It wasn't prosecuted by Taiwanese prosecutor and Indonesian reporters claimed that it was prosecutor's negligence (they didn't translated video in cellphones correctly)
Last week an Indonesian crewman came forward to testify that Supriyanto was abused to death.
2. Local gangsters were filmed extorting rents from poor taxi drivers. Those who paid were given a wasp sticker and allowed to operate.
3. Local gangsters set fire in KMT party's one local headquarter.


Bernd 06/01/2018 (Fri) 21:48:46 [Preview] No.16782 del
>>16729
As China doesn't have a developed pension system I wonder what will happen to those old people that don't have kids to support them.
Will they commit sudoku?


Bernd 06/02/2018 (Sat) 05:19:29 [Preview] No.16783 del
>>16782
That's a good question. Maybe they get rations. Food and coal/oil/wood/electricity/hot water/whatever they can survive on for a while.
But how they don't have such, it's a commie country it supposed to have all kinds of social security or how it is called.

>>16772
How about organized crime on Taiwan? Are there triads and stuff like that?


Bernd 06/02/2018 (Sat) 11:49:00 [Preview] No.16786 del
>>16783
They do have pensions but they are very low and participation is voluntary.
I did a quick Google search, 9% of rural population participates and around 50% urban population.


Bernd 06/02/2018 (Sat) 13:07:51 [Preview] No.16787 del
>>16786
Jesus.
I think in the country they live how they lived through the ages, working till the grave and probably the local community, the village might help them in a way or other. Or not because it sounds somewhat... umm... romantic notion maybe.


Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 15:55:19 [Preview] No.16842 del
>>16783
>>16782
On this problem I only heard hearsay: peasants don't have pension so they work on the day they die.
I have heard similar stories in Taiwan: peasants work scrap jobs in their 80s but I am too indifferent to them so I can't confirm.
Not sure how communist subsidies work.
In the past there was a hot topic about peasant villages disintegrated because young people moved to cities to work and their elders and children were left behind in villages. They were not abandoned because the migrant workers still send back remittance but they don't have young people around in villages.

We have "triads" (the term seems to be specific to hongkong/USA ). They are very active here. They infiltrated the local interest: irrigation resuource association in farming towns and land development project in cities. Public construction. Drugs. Prostitution. And they infiltrated the local temples.

It's that day again.


Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 16:07:26 [Preview] No.16843 del
>>16842
It's that day again. June 4th on Monday. Komica becomes Loren politicized and anti China. But I guess it should also because the users have aged. Besides anti China its topics about wage slave and suicide jokes.


Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 20:25:16 [Preview] No.16866 del
>>16842
>peasant villages disintegrated because young people moved to cities to work...
Now we have similar settis. In small country towns and villages there aren't any job opportunities and young people move to large towns (mostly to W-NW Hungary), Budapest or Western Europe. Some just to work there and send money home, some finally. Only old people and gypsies remain, pensioners and public workers (no free moneyz, gibsmedats nowadays at least).
Thing is they don't make their opportunities and everyone is waiting for some employer to show up. Ofc there are legal-political obstacles make it hard for entrepreneurs to emerge and do their own thing.

>>16843
>Komica becomes Loren politicized and anti China.
I have no idea what that means.
>Komica
I googled that. That's an imageboard?


Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 22:34:51 [Preview] No.16881 del
>>16842
>And they infiltrated the local temples.
Could you elaborate on that please? What profit could they possibly make from infiltrating temples? They steal the charity money?


Bernd 06/03/2018 (Sun) 22:51:26 [Preview] No.16883 del
>>16866
Loren is just a typo. Yes komica is a image board.

Today's news:
1. One Indonesian nurse/caretaker gave childbirth in the house of the employer. According to ROC laws these children are not ROC citizens. What often happens next is the employer would fire her and she would be deported
2. One marine soldier was shot by gangsters when he was on leave. He was killed when he was filling his car in a gas station.
The police tracked the gangster who killed him, who claimed that he mistook the victim to be the man whom his girlfriend cheated with. But I don't believe it. gangsters often claimed they killed the wrong man and denied they have anything to do with the victims to hide the true motive. They would create confusion and offer police a low ranking gangster as scapegoat


Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 16:49:24 [Preview] No.16937 del
>>16883
Indonesia can always benefit some more street children who grow up to be mobsters.


Bernd 06/04/2018 (Mon) 22:44:45 [Preview] No.16954 del
>>16937
I have seen that movie. Not bad. There was another movie about the victims. Because it's about victims I didn't care so I didn't watch it.
I heard that Indonesia has changed and people care about this more and more and this movie is their signal. But I don't know anything about Indonesia.

I only know that i have deep fear against foreign labors


Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 05:09:35 [Preview] No.16956 del
>>16881
Maybe it's a community thing. People could turn more easily/openly to them with their problems so they can solve it in exchange for money or favours. Or perhaps they can access to governmental funds or other.
We'll see if Taiwanese Bernd has more info on that.


Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 05:10:45 [Preview] No.16957 del
>>16954
I have seen that movie.
I'm glad my reference wasn't amiss.


Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 13:10:44 [Preview] No.16963 del
>>16881
Sorry I didn't see your question earlier. Not sure if infiltrate is the right word. It implies the temples were there before the gangsters.
Zhenlan temple in Taichung is a famous example of the old temples. It was a major temple in a rich countryside. The temple collect fees and "tax"(not sure if that's the right word) from local households inside its "parish". If you live there you have to pay it. The temple also served as gathering place for locals, attracted vendors, and raised funds for local constructions. Naturally rich and powerful figures in local factions tried to control the temples to match their status. Then in 1997 a very infamous gangster boss got elected to chair the temple. So in this case you might say the gangster infiltrated the temple.
After that the society changed greatly. The Zhenlan temple became internationally famous, and it got much more money from donation from non residents and tourists. The boss continued to chair the temple, became legit, and got elected to become a lawmaker in parliament. Chinese people laughed at us for that. He now passed his seat to his son.
That is the case of an old temple.

But to my understanding many new temples were established by new gangsters. I don't think the new temples can collect money from local residents. The rumor is that the money in these small irregular temples comes from the gangsters' operation and the temple is just a front for money laundry.

One more connection between gangsters and temples is that gangsters often work and pay for the temple's parade performance. Different performance troupes from different temples often have brawls for territory of the temples.

That is all I know.


Bernd 06/05/2018 (Tue) 13:28:17 [Preview] No.16964 del
One more thing I can think of, is that temples are very very important political centers (at least in countryside). I don't know how it worked but in current election system the local factions (business, industry and politicians) and major temples work closely. Local factions seem to control vote captains and can influence local and national elections. That's why local and national politicians must visit major temples, for both PR and other effects.
Most of our presidents are Christians but they all offered incense in temples (an act strictly prohibited by local churches)

This is current President visiting zhenlan temple.


Bernd 06/06/2018 (Wed) 05:35:01 [Preview] No.16992 del
>>16963
>>16964
It's Buddhist temple I assume.
On the second pic the dude on the left looks like a typical mobster.


Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 16:48:34 [Preview] No.17025 del
Before this year I didn't know good safety is such a politically charged business.
There is a semi official job in Taipei in charge of a farm produce company and now its operation is very political.
I don't want to talk about it though. These kinds of things make me feel I am wrong.


Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 17:05:04 [Preview] No.17029 del
>>17025
>I don't want to talk about it though.
You don't have to.

>>16957
Here when I wrote: "I have seen that movie." I wanted to quote but forgot the > meme arrow.


Bernd 06/07/2018 (Thu) 17:54:54 [Preview] No.17039 del
>>17025
Oh, btw, do you have any information that could help our friend here: >>16911 ?


Bernd 06/09/2018 (Sat) 14:50:32 [Preview] No.17085 del
>>17039
Sorry no. Not brave enough to go there. Not connected enough to know people who live there. Ignorant about china in general.


Bernd 06/09/2018 (Sat) 15:11:23 [Preview] No.17086 del
>>17029
Today I am mentally stable enough to talk about it.

So there is a big company called Taipei Farm Produce Transportation. It's a semi official company that supplies most produce to the big city

Its last boss was a KMT politician and the current one is DPP's pick. The KMT makes a huge controversy to challenge the current manager's credential.

Komica, a very independence minded imageboard, has this post that educated me about this company.
It argues that the company is a guild-like market of produce wholesalers. It argues that originally the produce wholesalers were all independence minded local residents, and supported KMT's opponents. Then in 70s KMT disrupted the market and inserted many pro-KMT mainlander wholesalers into the market.
The post described the mainlanders, from wholesalers to civil and military officials as greedy, profiteering and incompetent. It described the KMT managers as a sweet talking muscle man from a ruthless mainlander gang, and he has no managing skill other than causing price fluctuation that made him and his allies rich at cost of farmers and consumers.

Reading this kind of thing depresses me because I am a mainlander myself, but everything that sounds reasonable to me criticizes mainlanders in Taiwan.


Bernd 06/09/2018 (Sat) 15:15:37 [Preview] No.17087 del
I am now watching a mainland show called Jin Xing Show. It features "China's first male to female transsexual talent" as a host interviewing a Chinese singer called Sun Nan. My biggest problem with it is not for some reason the Taiwanese channel blocked all the product placement on screen.

Speaking of tv show: I once told a friend that I like to watch Japanese infotainment/variety show from Videoland Channel. That friend told me: "Me, too, Anon. I watched one show from that channel too. It's called 《跟拍到你家》(家、ついて行ってイイですか). Its format is to send the camera crew to talk to random commuters who go to Tokyo train station to go home, and ask if he or she allows the crew to go home with him or her and make film.
"So this time they followed a poor looking old man to his bachelor apartment. It was a messy room. The old man told the crew that he never worked any formal job, and he had been always trying to pass the civil servant exam for all his life.
"Anon, this old man isn't mentally challenged or disabled. And he knows many knowledge and current issues. But he never applied his talents to anything relevant. He never entered the society. Don't be that old man Anon."
That's probably the last time I talked to him


Bernd 06/09/2018 (Sat) 20:20:17 [Preview] No.17107 del
>>17086
Kuomintang still exists? Well, I've lack some knowledge in case of Taiwan.
I also not sure if I see this straight.
So the Taiwanese people comprises of several backgrounds. Most of them Chinese, but some non-Chinese. I know (if this is correct) that after the commies took over in mainland China a certain amount of people fled from there to Taiwan. So are there "original" Taiwanese Chinese and mainlander Chinese? Or every Chinese on Taiwan counts as mainlander as they aren't natives?

>>17087
>That's probably the last time I talked to him
I had occasions I got angry on some of my friends and stopped talking to them but in the end we reconciled and I feel that for the good. Friends are rare and words are just words.
About what he said I think he didn't want to wrong you, it sounds he meant as a good advice. Tho it doesn't feel too Buddhist thing to say.


Bernd 06/09/2018 (Sat) 23:24:45 [Preview] No.17114 del
>>17107
It's not like that. We just haven't met since last month. I appreciated what he said.

In Taiwan there were once two major political labels. One is called islanders. They were Chinese who settled on the island since 17th century. They claimed that they have been separated from the mainland long enough that they don't count as Chinese anymore. Then there were people who identified themselves as mainlanders who came in 1949 with KMT. They said they accounted for 10% of population.
The islanders and mainlanders struggled many times and had deep hatred for each other. That's how I understand most news in Taiwan. The problem is the labels are too convenient to be applied and distorts the real nature of the news.


Bernd 06/10/2018 (Sun) 00:12:40 [Preview] No.17115 del
Yesterday's news.
The prince of eSwatini (formerly Swaziland) graduates from a university in Taiwan. The king and queen came to the graduation ceremony.
eSwatini is the only state on Africa that have diplomatic tie with us (after two other states broke up with us in favor of mainland last month)
People generally have bad impression for these ties, believing that they are maintained by corrupting bribes.
2. Another minor fire broke out in an apartment (subdivided into many small suites). No one died this time.
3. The government is going to ban the practice of setting the employee dormitory and factory in the same building. Especially the dorm for foreign workers.


Bernd 06/10/2018 (Sun) 00:40:34 [Preview] No.17116 del
EO schwa

Yesterday I skimmed a few pages of three books. The first one is about the history of a small minority nation in Chinese history. The book has dramatization in its titles and contents, and the author is introduced as "author of popular online novel". The funny thing is I guess the writer is a PRC citizen but the introduction didn't mention it.

The second and third books I skimmed were written by Yanagi Soetsu and translated by a Mr Xu. It talked about that he defined "folk art" as useful and affordable products, and it has to be well made not crudely made.
It fits my stereotype of Japanese products. The clay cups and lacquer discs, the useful stationary products etc. they are well designed and lovely and give me a very positive impression about Japanese people.
In Taiwan I often see this comparison between japan and china. MIJ is good and cool. MIC is miserable etc. I never made a serious comparison but I have this vague impression.

The funny thing is about Mr Xu the translator. the second book is published in Taiwan and the third one is published in China. The Chinese book has Mr Xu's introduction, about how he learned about Yunagi's work in China since mid 1970s (after japan resumed ties with China I guess), how he translated Yunagi's articles and published them in China, which Chinese publishers helped him etc. the second book is obviously reprinted in Taiwan without authorization of Mr Xu and only vaguely described him.
It seems we have been reading lots of books from china. Both translated and original works. These books taught some Taiwanese people about the history, the world, even about Japan. But our publishers always conveniently ignored the facts that they came from china.


Bernd 06/10/2018 (Sun) 15:45:50 [Preview] No.17127 del
>>17114
I see.
So KMT still got many votes from "islander" Taiwanese?

>>17115
Haha, I remember Swaziland's namechange it's funny.
Yeah China is hungry for the raw materials of Africa.


Bernd 06/10/2018 (Sun) 23:34:34 [Preview] No.17133 del
>>17127
Yes. The KMT has localized. Some would say it has two factions in it: mainlanders and islanders. They also struggled.


Bernd 06/11/2018 (Mon) 02:22:41 [Preview] No.17135 del
>>17114
For how long have the aboriginals in Taiwan been a minority on the island?


Bernd 06/11/2018 (Mon) 14:52:21 [Preview] No.17144 del
>>17135
It depends on definition of aboriginals but it should be so since 17th century


Bernd 06/12/2018 (Tue) 15:51:50 [Preview] No.17175 del
>>17116
>books
Some book sellers here do the following: they buy a few books from the publishers, and send one copy of every book to China where they make copies, forgeries for them in high volume for peanuts in return.


Bernd 06/13/2018 (Wed) 13:10:17 [Preview] No.17197 del
On Komica there is now a strong hate against China and favor for japan. But I think...we actually learned something from modern china without knowing it.


Bernd 06/13/2018 (Wed) 17:39:19 [Preview] No.17202 del
>>17197
>On Komica there is now a strong hate against China and favor for japan
How come? Were they previously friendly to China? Komica is a Taiwanese chan, right?
Previously you wrote they are mock the wage slavery of China and suicide.

>>17116
Do you read European books? Is there mandatory literature in school, a list a books every student have to read?
We have such and all European from antiquity to our day and age.


Bernd 06/13/2018 (Wed) 23:34:16 [Preview] No.17210 del
>>17202
I can only say a imageboard is often complicated, but the apparent hate against China is very apparent. I don't think the board was ever friendly toward china but I remember before the hate isn't that emphasized.

I haven't been in school for a long time. But in primary school we had encouraged reading list (semi mandatory) when we can pick from a list of translated western fiction classics: wrath of grapes, Jane Austin etc. this is intended to encourage "reading" in general and focuses on Chinese language skills. then perhaps in highschool they read Jane Austin in English perhaps. This is to train English.
Not very familiar with how it works now. They have much better foreign language training now. Second foreign language: Japanese. French. or southeast asian ones. They have more in-depth class for everything now. Ethics, social studies, geography etc.

But I wasn't a good student before so I can't make good comparison. Never read any Plato, Jane Austin, Dante, or Adam Smith myself (but I saw other kids reading them)


Bernd 06/13/2018 (Wed) 23:43:41 [Preview] No.17211 del
Today's news:
1. A dozen Vietnamese migrant workers gathered in Taiwan to protest the Vietnamese government's "special economic zone" project because they think Chinese firms will win the bid and control the project.
2. In a related news, Taiwanese owned firms operating in Vietnam reported that there are many mass protests inside Vietnam. Though the protests are against the economic zone project, many worried it would turn into an aimless anti-Chinese riot and the Taiwanese firms would be smashed like two years ago.
3. A teacher is reported to have labeled students and used "bullying" to promote grade performance.
4. Teachers union gathered to petit for compensation because their pension was cut.
5. A controversy about government trying to ban plastic straw


Bernd 06/14/2018 (Thu) 01:14:49 [Preview] No.17213 del
>>17211
Oh and china just had its college entrance exam last week


Bernd 06/14/2018 (Thu) 06:49:19 [Preview] No.17219 del
What is Taiwanese view about Russia? Do common people have some average opinion?


Bernd 06/14/2018 (Thu) 15:55:29 [Preview] No.17225 del
>>17219
I cannot represent ordinary people.
Politically, KMT once had close relation with soviet but later they treated soviet as enemy and censored or demonized everything about it. I can't forget one mistake in my high school chemistry textbook which called Mendeleev " from Soviet Union" that's probably caused by lack of info.

On the other hand translated Russian classical novels were highly valued. Karamazov brothers and three sisters were recommended since 1970s.

There were also recent interest in trades, tourism, interest about how post communism states developed. Interest of dating Ukrainian brides etc.

The most recent memes..., I don't know where it came from but I saw it on cable tv. They called Russians "warrior race" and exaggerated the endurance of cold, heavy drinking, combat performance, strange infrastructure etc


Bernd 06/14/2018 (Thu) 15:57:29 [Preview] No.17226 del
>>17225

> I cannot represent ordinary people.
I meant though I am not special, I don't know how other ordinary people really think. I don't know the general consensus.


Bernd 06/14/2018 (Thu) 16:35:29 [Preview] No.17229 del
>>17225
>Interest of dating Ukrainian brides
Laughed at that.

btw I want to say that I enjoy this thread, gives an interesting insight into the country.
You deserve a pat on the head.


Bernd 06/14/2018 (Thu) 20:30:08 [Preview] No.17242 del
>>17210
We don't read anything in foreign languages (unless the teacher want's it but there's rarely enough time for this in the class curriculum), everything is translated.

>>17211
What's wrong with plastic straws?

>>17225
>>17229
>Ukrainian brides
Well at least it's less likely she'll steal your kidneys and escape back home from Taiwan.


Bernd 06/18/2018 (Mon) 01:16:13 [Preview] No.17351 del
>>17242
They want to reduce plastic waste.

Useless news today
1. Muslim festival Ramadan coincides with summer festival this weekend.
2. On this festival some rich temples would offer some free rice to support poor families.
3. The pension cut is delivered to teachers and professors. KMT party also rallied teachers to sign a petition that might appeal in supreme court one day. The rally wasn't very effective.
4. Communist spies prosecution continued.


Bernd 06/18/2018 (Mon) 01:36:30 [Preview] No.17352 del
Recently I read a "book printed for merit" (Yingshanshu). Chinese people once believe that printing religious books give you merits. However there are also some Buddhist cautionary tales saying that there is no merits in such a thing.
The book is an introduction in plain language of a difficult Buddhist text. On the back cover it introduced the small temple who sponsored it.
I used to look down on such book because they were freely available and they are often preachy and full of errors. But I did learn a lot from this one.
As I looked it up later the Buddhist text was suspected to be fabricated by medieval Chinese Buddhists (not really ancient teaching of Buddha)

Finally, I learned that Buddha Siddhartha Gautama said he won't reincarnate again. I always wondered why he said that. Now I guess he was teaching people not to look for his reincarnation


Bernd 06/18/2018 (Mon) 05:37:26 [Preview] No.17356 del
>>17352
Enlightenment and becoming Buddha supposed to stop the endless cycle of reincarnation. On the other hand every Buddha is the same and if you become enlightened you won't be a Buddha but the Buddha, no? And that we are different things is just a mirage anyway. Is there such a thing that reincarnation? Ehh. I'll think this through, or not.

>>17351
>They want to reduce plastic waste.
Not a bad idea. For medical reasons (for people with broken jaw for example) they can use silicon tubes. But when these people are no longer in hospital it might be better to use plastic straws because silicon tubes need cleaning and I wouldn't trust ordinary people that they will do it and straws can be discarded easily.


Bernd 06/18/2018 (Mon) 07:08:04 [Preview] No.17362 del
>>17356

>On the other hand every Buddha is the same and if you become enlightened you won't be a Buddha but the Buddha, no?
So I have heard.
And that we are different things is just a mirage anyway. Is there such a thing that reincarnation?
They say no


Bernd 06/18/2018 (Mon) 12:18:18 [Preview] No.17363 del
Taiwan, I am not a Taiwan, I am from elsewhere, where the hell do you get the news? Everything I see is fb-news and k-pop shit. It doesn´t matter if it´s chinese.

Thanks.


Bernd 06/18/2018 (Mon) 14:12:51 [Preview] No.17365 del
>>17363
I watch TVBS and FTV news but when I select stuff I rely on Komica and PTS
the news I saw were also usually FB news dashboard cam k-pop.
But komica was very bitter and would remind me of the important news.
I


Bernd 06/18/2018 (Mon) 14:18:23 [Preview] No.17366 del
>>17365
没办法


Bernd 06/19/2018 (Tue) 14:35:17 [Preview] No.17408 del
The road to integration. The road to acceptance.
Today's news
An archery teacher confessed that he killed a woman and dismembered and disposed the body. The news caused complaints about regulation and security of artists' village
Taipei mayor Ko appears invincible.
Some colleges closed down because they cannot attract students.


Bernd 06/19/2018 (Tue) 21:12:28 [Preview] No.17424 del
>>17408
archery, not even once. This might lead to horse riding archers and we all know how this ends.


Bernd 06/20/2018 (Wed) 05:05:42 [Preview] No.17427 del
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>>17424
>we all know how this ends.
In throat singing.

>>17408
Taiwan, my Brother in Turan, it's time to join the horde and conquer the world!

What are these artists' village? Here I heard about communes of artists and scientists/engineers but these aren't nowhere to settlement level.
Who is Ko invincible? Nothing can cause to him bodily harm or in politics he has very stable position?


Bernd 06/20/2018 (Wed) 15:33:45 [Preview] No.17430 del
>>17427
>>17424
We don't have Mongolians here. We view equestrian course negatively. Our people are only (perhaps not only) familiar with Japanese archery. The Chinese confucian and local militia archery which are also far away from Manchurian and Mongolian archery, is probably completely lost in Taiwan. They lost the appeal to young people who try to be closer to japan and to distant from china. But that might be inaccurate because I read all about them from Komica

The murder suspect's archery class is very problematic. At first the victim booked the suspect's program that media reported as "traditional culture". Later we learned that the program is called "Taiwanese aboriginal traditional culture". Today an aboriginal organization furiously explained that the suspect is only distantly related to aboriginals, and has no credential or qualification to claim to represent the people's culture. The people is estimated to have 10k people.

His case was politicized from the beginning. The suspect lives or operates on a park that is designated as "cultural and creativity industry park" (the "artist village" I mentioned earlier). It's not a settlement it's just a park. Artists apply for license to do business on the park. But local people feel they disturbed the local peace and order and introduced crime and wastes. The park is in lock down now due to murder investigation.

From the beginning the media already emphasized the violence, cruelty and perversion of the dismemberment. They also link the case with two other cases this month, and describe it as "copycat crime wave".
This naturally leads to the KMT and DPP policy debate on death penalty. Generally speaking ROC has adopted international and EU conventions to avoid or abandon death penalty. DPP in particular opposes it for their human right and democracy policies. KMT however believed that people strongly demand death penalty.
KMT politicians now argued that DPP has neither sentenced nor executed one death sentence since it came to power, and argued that this is shaming the victim and her family, and that it has encouraged bad people to violate laws.

When I said mayor Ko is invincible, I mean that no one can defeat him in the year end election. Ko is not a member to any party, and is said to have changed the election model in Taiwan that relied on parties. Both KMT and DPP tried to ally with and challenge Ko.


Bernd 06/20/2018 (Wed) 15:35:31 [Preview] No.17431 del
The real news today is that monsoon rain finally came to Taiwan (after flooding India and China)
The rain relieved the draught but also flooded southern Taiwanese towns, and caused damage to crops.


Bernd 06/21/2018 (Thu) 14:18:22 [Preview] No.17448 del
Today I saw an episode of Chinese drama. The title is "Game of Hunting" Liechang or Hunting ground in Chinese. It's about a calculative head hunting agent trying not to recruit a district chief in Beijing municipal government to work in a private financial company in Shenzhen.
To do this they must understand the official's thinking and his career choice. They exploited his uncertainty about whether he is kept under the new administration, and exploited his daughter's wish to move out from Beijing, and they even offered his wife a job in Shenzhen.
So they said lots of technical jargons about government posts and privatization of Chinese economy.
The problem with Video Land channel is that they must block all simplified characters, all product placement and all Chinese flags. And the commercial is long.
After the drama there is a music video that used Buddhist sutra as lyric and used puppet drama show as video. After that they showed a locally produced poor show. It's a talk show where guests share ghost stories.


Bernd 06/21/2018 (Thu) 17:45:58 [Preview] No.17454 del
>>17430
Thing about archery was just for the fun.

I can understand how that ethnic group is indignant.
So officially there is death penalty in Taiwan just they don't use it?
How do you feel about Ko? Is he doing well?

>>17431
Ironic situation with the water.

>>17448
Is that a reality show or fiction?
Be glad you don't know Hungarian talk-shows...


Bernd 06/22/2018 (Fri) 13:06:24 [Preview] No.17465 del
>>17454
It's just a TV serial drama. I just try to learn a little bit about China. I am quite ignorant about it.

Mayor Ko is doing ok I suppose. I only noticed how much he suppprted Taiwanese independence Ann's how much he hate KMT and mainlanders. Don't know much else about him.

Yes. The current and last administration now avoid handing out death sentence. But KMT made some high profile executions to show they are willing to do it.
Personally I am more influenced by foreigners and don't see the problem of this but locals are very very emotional and persuasive about this.


Bernd 06/22/2018 (Fri) 13:30:40 [Preview] No.17466 del
>>17465
The agent is now appealing the "bright side" of the official. He told official that choosing that's job would allow him to "publish English academic papers on Fortune journal" which is the official's lifelong interest.
The drama also talked about the north south difference in China. The official is a very serious and politics minded. The private company who wants to recruit him is owned by a southerner. He is a business man and practice southern customs and wears stylized cloth


Bernd 06/22/2018 (Fri) 13:43:00 [Preview] No.17467 del
>>17466
They also said that the official's daughter likes outdoor sports, but she is allergic to Beijing's smog


Bernd 06/22/2018 (Fri) 22:57:32 [Preview] No.17492 del
Yesterday I watched an episode of PTS guess who
It reported an aboriginal man from Hualien. He is a football player. I always ignore the fact that we play football too. I also assumed that aboriginal people always work in Taiwan. But this football player plays for China League One. I always ignored Chinese sports news especially its football news. Never know that we have a Taiwanese player playing in Chinese league.


Bernd 06/24/2018 (Sun) 07:02:13 [Preview] No.17502 del
>>17492
It was news to me as well that the Chinese league attracts foreign players. I usually don't watch football I was a match goer long ago tho, and I like football and sports in general and now that I follow matches I heard that this player or that plays for Chinese clubs. I precisely remember a Nigerian which isn't much surprise as China's influence grows in Africa all around, and it's a possible way for African players to go abroad and international "field".


Bernd 06/25/2018 (Mon) 15:52:16 [Preview] No.17522 del
Normal topic I used to hear years ago.
"To be a great/successful/smart man you need to Ha every international perspective. What is international perspective? Do you know that the ancient city of Chang'an had a 100 meter wide road? That's what made ancient china great"
What I don't understand is, if we have a bigger road today doesn't it make us greater than ancient china already???

Recently this year I also hear lots of discussion about the mobile payment in China. There are pros and cons. Pro Chinese people say their mobile payment already surpassed us. Bitter people say that is because China was underdeveloped previously in credit cards etc. even more bitter people would say they have trust issue between people and stayed backwardly in a "cash economy"
That was the first time I heard the word cash economy and how it represents backwardness of a country.


Bernd 06/25/2018 (Mon) 16:06:55 [Preview] No.17524 del
>>17522
>What I don't understand is, if we have a bigger road today doesn't it make us greater than ancient china already???
I think it depends on the times. Back than that road was something. Now it's easier to build, it's not that great performance. However I think it's not the road made China great but her greatness made available to build that road.


Bernd 06/25/2018 (Mon) 16:33:52 [Preview] No.17525 del
I recently discovered that China's literary idol Lu Xun (1880s-1930s) is well known in japan.
Japan has lots of knowledge about China. But Lu Xun is very emphasized. Japanese translation of his two essays are included in most versions of national literature textbooks.
(I don't quite remember what was in my mandarin national literature textbooks in my age. But I don't think we had much foreign works in it (we did have a lesson about General McArthur though)
And Lu Xun is a leftist figure so in the past textbooks ignored him. Not sure how Taiwanese kids today hear about him. One of his satirical story is in a popular textbook now. In china on the other hand Lu Xun is a personal cult)

The two essays were Hometown and Mr Fujino. Hometown was about Lu went to liquidate his family property and felt nostalgic for his childhood friend. Mr Fujino was about how much he admired his professor when he was studying in japan. Both are positive and sentimental.

The fact that most kids of both China and Japan read these two Chinese stories might be a sign that the two peoples can have better impression with each other? Nonsense. No one likes a thing because it's in the textbook.

And so what if Japanese and Chinese share similar literature taste? What does it mean to Southeast Asians, if they dislike the Northeast Asians for international issues?
Oh wait, Lu Xun has been translated into Vietnamese and Malay too. Vietnam was a communist state and Malaysia an anti communist one. But still, it doesn't really matter.


Bernd 06/25/2018 (Mon) 16:39:42 [Preview] No.17526 del
>>17524
I guess what they meant was Chang'an was a "international" city back then and the road led all the way to Europe.
The implied idea is Chinese people (and Taiwanese people whom this story addressed to) are provincial.
But don't we have import and export bigger than Silk Road already? Why does it not give us "international perspective "?

It's just a readily available cliche teachers used to admonish kids


Bernd 06/25/2018 (Mon) 16:47:47 [Preview] No.17527 del
>>17525
Well, Japan acquired many things from China during her history among them her taste... and imperial, also imperialistic mindset. You ask complex questions tho they worth to think them through.

>>17526
Ah, I see. Still if China weren't an empire back then in the first place they wouldn't venture far, also noone would approached her from the west.
But as you said, it's an empty cliché now. Ofc it's good to have international perspective and noone should forget it but as you said it's almost given by default.


Bernd 06/25/2018 (Mon) 18:05:33 [Preview] No.17532 del
There is a story about Chinese music.

On CE 582, the assistant minister proposed to emperor Wen of Sui dynasty: "ancient sage said: bad music is correlated with bad laws and order. The court music we have now follows the style of western barbarians. We should change that by following the system of the southern Chinese state and by studying the old text. " but the king disagreed: "the music of southern Chinese state is a music that destroyed the state. How can I use it."

At the time, the court music still used the same music of the previous dynasty. So the king ordered a guy to study ancient text to change it. They tried to change the tuning but it became even more unusable. So more official scholars gathered to discuss this problem. But after a long discussion the tuning was still in discord.

The king became angry: "I have taken the Mandate of Heaven for 7 years now, yet my official musicians are still playing songs that valorize the previous dynasty!" And he wanted to prosecute an official for this. The official advised the king: "even ancient sage waited a long time after establishment of the state before he established the music. This is an important matter. It cannot be rushed." The king relented, and called for people who understand music to work on it.

Finally one official reported: "I have studied the records of official musicians. They all recorded names of 7 tones. But three of the seven tones are wrong no matter how we try. But in previous dynasty, when their king married his Turk queen, Sujiva, a musician from Qizi (in today's Xinjiang Uyghur region) came to China with her. He was good at playing Pipa (lute?). His performance had 7 tones. He said his father was from Central Asia and was a famous musical talent. His father taught him that there are 7 tones and that how each tone was defined. When we applied the 7 tones described by Sujiva on our musical record, it works."

So this is an anecdote of how Chinese music was influenced by Central Asia.


Bernd 06/26/2018 (Tue) 01:36:42 [Preview] No.17534 del
>>17525
While I was surprised by the fact that Japanese put Lu Xun in their middle school textbooks, I ignored the fact that Vietnam also put Lu Xun in their textbooks. "Hometown" was also the one included and well received.
I just selectively notice the Japanese and ignored the Vietnam. But Vietnam was on the other side so it's harder for me to notice, despite the fact that there are Vietnamese Working in my town.


Bernd 06/26/2018 (Tue) 19:47:37 [Preview] No.17570 del
>>17532
That's interesting. I thought steppe people generally has pentatonic music.

>>17534
What languages do you use/speak/read/know? Taiwan's official is Mandarin. But there are other small languages as well. You use English I can see that. Others? Like Japanese, or Cantonese, Korean? And what level?
Because I ask a personal question I kinda obligated to be reciprocal. Beside my mother tong I know English what also you can see, but learned some German, little Latin and dabbled for a short tiem in Italian. I always planned - not seriously - to learn other languages, like Russian or Spanish. I can recognize a word here and there in several other languages, even in Japanese.


Bernd 06/27/2018 (Wed) 02:03:59 [Preview] No.17572 del
>>17570
I can only use mandarin and English. Nothing else. Most people in Taiwan use "Taiwanese" a southern dialect of Min. But not me. English has been mandatory for elementary schools for 10 years I guess.


Bernd 06/27/2018 (Wed) 06:27:49 [Preview] No.17573 del
>>17572
Tell us about Komica. I found 2 of them and they both link each other but when I open those it's all Chinese to me so I couldn't get out much of what's going on.
There are great many board on Komica and by randomly opening a few I found even individual games have their own boards. Is the userbase that big?


Bernd 06/27/2018 (Wed) 06:37:11 [Preview] No.17574 del
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>>17573
Haha, I found this there. I can't say if one of the drew it or find it somewhere else tho. But they are following the World Cup as well.


Bernd 06/27/2018 (Wed) 11:03:40 [Preview] No.17576 del
>>17573
http://komica.org/
This is the main index. There is another index for adult contents. There are several boards with some boards not listed on the main index and used similar interface. Many specific boards are probably not as active as the general boards. The board most open to English is probably the "overseas" board [http://next.nagatoyuki.org/outremer/] mainly for Taiwanese to talk about life overseas
I only use the general board [http://ram.komica2.net/00/] there is also a general 2 [http://alleyneblade.mymoe.moe/queensblade/] with different interface.


Bernd 06/27/2018 (Wed) 11:53:03 [Preview] No.17577 del
>>17576
Oh, thanks! I checked out /outremer/ interesting choice of name I might post there sometimes something. Looks interesting.
Here is the thread where they posted the Polandball comic above:
https://komica.yucie.net/worldcup/pixmicat.php?res=35906
If I would ask them who made it or where they found it - contributing with my own drawings of course - would they reply or would I get banned? Do they know English?

How come you started posting on Krautchan? Btw I'm very glad you chose our board to post your things.
Also this post here: >>17532 wasn't written by you, was it? Maybe this guy here: >>17363 did?


Bernd 06/27/2018 (Wed) 11:54:56 [Preview] No.17578 del
>>17576
Also after the World Cup I'll have time to write something instead of draw. What topic would you interested in? Ofc it's a question for the other Bernds as well no matter how few they are.


Bernd 06/27/2018 (Wed) 13:44:54 [Preview] No.17580 del
>>17577
I am not sure of their reaction. Not familiar with that board. And I am not used to seeing foreigners on main board. Some of them frequent foreign boards and have enough skills to answer your question. I don't think you will be banned but you might attract too much attention and too many English posts. Then some people might feel you are derailing it. most users aren't comfortable with English. I guess I am not either.

I just use this thread as a personal blog thing. The original purpose was to keep my English skill. I chose news because it covers things I don't usually care. Then I lost balance when I wrote it. I wanted to stay anonymous but I also liked the attention.
4chan felt too active for me. There are also komica users on 4chan. I don't like mixing the English and Chinese boards I read.

I used to avoid talking about Komica to foreigners and avoid talking about foreigners on Komica. But after translating Taiwanese news for a while I lost the balance. I guess it's hard not to talk about "friends" behind their back. I hate them and I hate myself. Choose an online thing to avoid real relations but I guess I always turn it like a real one.


Bernd 06/28/2018 (Thu) 20:00:00 [Preview] No.17628 del
>>17580
Interesting. I will take into consideration what you wrote.

>but I also liked the attention.
Everyone does. Moreover Taiwan isn't just rare ball but what you're doing is also OC basically.

>I used to avoid talking about Komica to foreigners and avoid talking about foreigners on Komica.
We can drop the topic in the future.


Bernd 06/29/2018 (Fri) 01:20:36 [Preview] No.17629 del
>>17628
I brought them up myself. Should have avoided that myself . Those people I hate them and like them . I hope what I wrote is OC but I guess it's also very influenced by them after all. Thanks for your encouragement though.

Today's useless news in Taiwan:
1. Big and prestigious hospital accused of killing two dialysis patients. The hospital admitted they have wrongly connected the machine to tap water instead of to the RO water, but insisted that this didn't cause the death of the patients
2. A district inside Taipei city is finally re-designated in national land use zoning plan by the central governemnt. This would permit local residents to build and renew their houses on it. The district was designated as "no construction zone" 40 years ago. All existing houses on that haven't been permitted to modify or renew since then. It became a scrap yard and news reported that kids born there have been treated as second class citizens. The subsequent relocation and compensation will be a problem though. This is claimed as another victory and contribution by mayor Ko

3. This week is the third anniversary of the powder explosion at a outdoor party. Many injured people come up to talk about compensation issues. As the party organizer is bankrupted the local government is to be blamed.
The injured also said they feel bullied by comments on internet, which condemned them for attending the party
4. Draught is relieved in the south but continued in the north.


Bernd 07/02/2018 (Mon) 20:06:47 [Preview] No.17664 del
>>17629
>he district was designated as "no construction zone" 40 years ago.
Why?


Bernd 07/03/2018 (Tue) 16:07:59 [Preview] No.17687 del
>>17664
The place is a sandbank at convergence of two rivers. In 1970 Taipei had a wide flood so the government decided they need it to be a flood buffer.

Today's news
One convict of a high profile random child-killing case is sentenced to life imprisonment by intermediate court. Death penalty again became a politicized issue. The opposition candidates suggest that's current government intends to abandon death penalty.


Bernd 07/03/2018 (Tue) 16:09:11 [Preview] No.17688 del
Bohyo naki sogen
Today I want to introduce this book called 沒有墓碑的草原 Meiyou Mubei De Caoyuan. It is a translation from Japanese original 墓標なき草原 Bohyo naki sogen. It has a recent English translation: Genocide on the Mongolian Steppe: First-Hand Accounts of Genocide in Southern Mongolia During the Chinese Cultural Revolution

It was written by Yang Haiying, a Mongolian who was born in PRC and later naturalized to Japan. I didn't read the book.
I only read its promo and introduction written by a Chinese guy. He admonished us Han Chinese should read what crimes we did to ethnic minorities.
The basic idea of the book sounds familiar in Taiwan: Mongolia collaborated with Japanese to get modernization but Chinese treated them as national traitors and gave them poverty, hate and killing. To Han people Cultural Revolution is indiscriminate but to Mongolians they felt targeted.

I read this book in a public library (full of exam preppers and homeless people) last year. The translation was published and promoted in 2014. It was the time when anti-Chinese sentiment was high so I ignored it. I guess I was being biased.

The book promo said it was published in Taiwan because it was no longer possible to publish it in hongkong. Which was known to everyone but again a surprise to me.
The book was translated by an Han man and his daughter. The man is remarkably 80 years old in Beijing. They said again that the book reminded them that Han people didn't know what Han people did to minorities.
The book is published by a company called "Gusa" which is known for publishing books about Koreans and Manchurian nationalist ideas.


Bernd 07/03/2018 (Tue) 16:31:37 [Preview] No.17689 del
A few days ago, after watching the Chinese drama about head hunting company I saw a talk show produced by Videoland channel. The show is quite poor and talks about ghost stories. The host just read us a story from Internet.

It says there is a nurse working in an abortion clinic. When she worked on an illegal abortion surgery (in this context it means the clinic didn't have written consent of the patient's spouse or guardians) she got blood spilled on her. Later a lump developed on her shoulder and it looked like a baby. She consulted a fortune teller who told her she is haunted by "fetus ghost" and needs to ask priest in temple to make offering to appease the ghost.
Fetus ghost is a common belief in Taiwan. Its implication is controversial.


Bernd 07/04/2018 (Wed) 00:14:45 [Preview] No.17705 del
>>17688

Thanks for the book. There were periodic genocides during the Qing Dynasty too. The Manchu rulers allowed Han to migrate to Mongolia in the latter days of the empire. Eventually Han decided to stage a rebellion in 1891 and massacred tens of thousands of Mongolians: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jindandao_incident


Bernd 07/04/2018 (Wed) 13:15:18 [Preview] No.17712 del
Pineapple overproduction created discontent among farmers.

Today I watched Chinese drama and found they use many financial jargons and English terms I need to rely on subtitles, which simplified and explained the terms for us. I also learned a new word called Xiegang "slash". Slash youth means a man working multiple professions. We have translated this book in Taiwan but I only notice this term when it seems spoken in Chinese drama


Bernd 07/04/2018 (Wed) 13:34:27 [Preview] No.17713 del
I saw a young woman today. She was wearing office lady outfit so I didn't look at her. But when I saw the textbooks she was studying I found she wasn't actually a high school girl. If she was wearing a student uniform I would saw her as a totally different person. I guess it's important to abolish school uniform so I can realize that high school girls is just a stage in life


Bernd 07/04/2018 (Wed) 14:32:56 [Preview] No.17714 del
I am now watching a PTS program talking about Taiwanese kids going to China for colleges. There has been a steady growth of students going to China. But this year Chinese government made a policy favoring Taiwanese applicants. So they expect the number to double.
The program went to Xiamen university, a tier one school to interview Taiwanese applicant. One girl was from a tier one girl's high in Taipei and her high school term wasn't finished yet. She took a day of leave from school and took a flight to the school for interview. There are also many other Taiwanese Elisa on the campus. They said that inside their high school class rooms the class would discuss and share info about applying schools in USA, Hongkong, and China.

Now they are interviewing students already in Chinese schools. They say it's competitive. Some professional degrees are not admitted in Taiwan IE they cannot return to Taiwan. They also complained about cultural shocks (no hobby clubs allowed, which was a major thing to an interviewee). There is also a problem for Taiwanese graduates getting hired in Chinese firms, because Taiwanese workers are seen as semi foreigners and require extra paperwork


Bernd 07/04/2018 (Wed) 15:09:36 [Preview] No.17715 del
>>17714
The last segment of the show is about Taiwanese now professors in Chinese schools. There are two kinds. One are those who can't find jobs here. One teaches political economy. He says the pay is about the same as in Taiwan but then tenure track is easier. But he has to watch out political sensitive topics. His main compliant is that while China begins to admit scholar publication in Taiwan during publication review, Taiwan still dismiss publication in China. This disqualifies him when he try to come back to Taiwan's for work

Another kind of Taiwanese are highly sought after top talents (worldwide ) they interviewed a biomatic guy who was recommended to China by a Nobel laureate. He said he liked the challenge of China


Bernd 07/04/2018 (Wed) 15:50:13 [Preview] No.17717 del
>>17713
>She was wearing office lady outfit so I didn't look at her.
Is this just your behaviour or this is expected there?

>Taiwanese Elisa
This means high school girls?
>no hobby clubs allowed
Why? Do they think they are the nests of anti-government movements?


Bernd 07/04/2018 (Wed) 23:36:15 [Preview] No.17729 del
>>17717
Its just my behavior.
Taiwanese Elisa is just a typo. I mean Taiwanese students.

Taiwanese kids placed strong emphasis on hobby societies. they say it's important connections and self-exploration . But I don't know why Chinese schools don't have it. I read a magazine article written by a Chinese student who came to Taiwan in 2012 (the good old time when our only worry was how to assimilate Chinese students who came to us) and he said too that Taiwanese students took hobby societies too serious.
Historically, from 70s-90s some political societies were important to the democratization movement in Taiwan. I have read one of their stuff in 2000s. It was quite political. Today what I heard about college societies is their doujin (hobbey) publication. But that's probably not why most people go to these societies.
Another controversial topic in Taiwan schools is religious societies. FLG societies are the most active and visible ones. Traditional Christian ones are also popular. I have read one article of a Traditional Buddhist society complaining that the campus is westernized and favors Christian societies. His is because parents worry that Buddhism societies on campus would lead a student to become a Buddhist monk (which in traditional Chinese view can be as low as a beggar)
Then since 90s to present day there are periodic news concerning Buddhist and Christian New religions "cults". At first it was about Korean missionary who are accused of brainwashing or kidnapping Taiwanese girls from campus to become his harem. Then there were rumors about Scientology societies. Most recently there is one master of Buddhist (he keeps his hair. Taiwanese folk religion?) getting attention, because he released video of how college kids wearing purple uniforms worshiped him.

Besides all that, there is a kind of society called "mountain service" which sends people to remote mountain villages to work as tutors or volunteers. They were once important to those villages. And probably important to aboriginal movement.

That's all I know about Taiwanese societies. I don't recall seeing fraternity like the ones in American movies.


Bernd 07/04/2018 (Wed) 23:39:38 [Preview] No.17730 del
>>17729
>>17717
The guy in purple uniforms.

I used to hear that in some jobs in service sector if you do really well in societies you can put that on your CV. But that she probably just promotional slogans from the societies


Bernd 07/08/2018 (Sun) 19:27:57 [Preview] No.17822 del
>>17729
Here if you participate some kind of after school/hobbyist activity when you are a kid or teenager your peers will consider you a weirdo and will ostracize you for it. I don't think anything like that even exist. On universities there are some stuff but not like American fraternities tho you can make connections and found relations for the future. Not typical tho.
Nowadays NGOs are shunned - thanks Soros and Fidesz - and real independent civil organizations are almost nonexistent and very obscure. Which is sad and a true reflections on civil initiative. Or the lack of it.


Bernd 07/11/2018 (Wed) 15:44:52 [Preview] No.17858 del
I tried to read something about Chinese news but I lost track of where I began and got into a circle.
I also watched a NHK animation describing how they invented water wash toilet seat. They had to measure with a line and determined that most people's anus are on the same spot when they seat on the toilet seat (regardless of their height).

Today's news
1. KMT Ex-president is prosecuted for selling cheap party-owned broadcast companies. People believe that KMT's assets belongs to the state. But KMT has sold three major assets before they can be nationalized. all meetings during the sale are recorded and showed that President Ma orchestrated the sale as laundry.
2. Mayor Ko is invincible as ever. neither his handling of typhoon or his comment that sounds pro-unification affects him.
3. A rich kid streamed himself speeding a Lamborghini and crashing it. The crash killed two maintenance workers and his girlfriend. He showed remorse.
His father is a charismatic religious leader and sent him to study abroad.
4. A typhoon left Taiwan and hits China now. For every typhoon there are controversies over whether local government should call a day off. Mayor Ko made a right call not to call it off. KMT mayor called it off but the typhoon didn't cause any damage.


Bernd 07/11/2018 (Wed) 16:25:09 [Preview] No.17859 del
Interview Huang jin Shan of Min xiong used books store in KHS.
I saw a program interviewing a Mr Huang who runs a used book shop. He also uses his saving to fund a cram-school with 300 college students volunteering as tutors. He described the school as his tribute to the the neighborhood he grew up from.
He took pride in being a "self-made man" and in running major book fairs in Taipei.
Mr Huang argued for "flip education". He argued that "Only by earning good grades did I flip my poverty and succeed." He scolded and demanded kids regardless of their difficult background.
Huang firstly hired a star teacher from cram schools but found kids lost interest quickly because the student/teacher ratio is too high. Huang argued that these kids need adult company. So he gathered more volunteers.
He lectured his volunteers that these kids are desperate and you are their last chance. You must pump up their grades immediately or they would not become interested.
Huang also made a home visit and told a mom that trad jobs can be made obsolete by tech but with motivation of continued education the kid can always adapt to new jobs


Bernd 07/11/2018 (Wed) 16:50:41 [Preview] No.17860 del
>>17858
>A rich kid...
Some people just more equal no matter where you are.


Bernd 07/12/2018 (Thu) 13:44:33 [Preview] No.17878 del
Today's news
1. Cabinet reshuffle. It seems to be a election year formation with emphasis on investigation on KMT assets
2. In a place known for its fruit orchard, it is discovered that a factory illegally receive toxic chemicals and bury them inside their compound. It is estimated that 10k tons of hexavalent chromium had been buried there.


Bernd 07/12/2018 (Thu) 13:51:56 [Preview] No.17879 del
>>17878
3. Officers of a police station are accused of taking bribe to cover local prostitution related venues. Locals called the police "land god"


Bernd 07/13/2018 (Fri) 00:54:02 [Preview] No.17895 del
I was watching a program interviewing migrants in Taiwan. This time it is a pastor named Choi. It turned out he was once the music director of Yoido Full Gospel Church. "The biggest church in the world".


Bernd 07/14/2018 (Sat) 06:05:16 [Preview] No.17905 del
Today I watched a Taiwanese movie on TV It is Spring Swallow made in 1989 by CMPC, the state film studio. The story was similar to Eileen Chang (ZHANG Ailing)'s story: a young woman married to an middle aged man of a major clan. She had affair with another young man. The clan punished her. The woman almost died. But Republican revolution weakened the man and the clan. Years later the woman is rehabilitated, but she also became hypocritical and cynical like older women of the clan.

What amazes me is that, because they used local actors to present a mainland story, the Taiwanese accent of their mandarin is jarring.

In our generation, we have this idea that ours is the culturally diverse and Taiwanese-friendly, and that the old mainlander controlled media doesn't allow Taiwanese accent. But I guess the mandarin requirement wasn't as pure as I thought.
Not saying that Taiwanese wasn't discriminated. The actors with Taiwanese accent are marginalized side characters. Just saying that it wasn't as pure as I thought.


Bernd 07/14/2018 (Sat) 06:28:09 [Preview] No.17906 del
>>17858
>>17878
>People believe that KMT's assets belongs to the state.
>emphasis on investigation on KMT assets
Is there an ongoing investigation and/or pressure against KMT? From some of what you wrote - if I remember correctly - sounds they are kinda corrupt.

>>17895
Where migrants in Taiwan come from? Do Europeans move there sometimes?

>>17905
If the movie is Taiwanese than it's not surprising there are Taiwanese actors.


Bernd 07/14/2018 (Sat) 10:21:27 [Preview] No.17911 del
>>17906
KMT, long story short, was very corrupted. According to the Ill Gotten Party Asset committee, when KMT came to Taiwan after 1949, they took over the public and private enterprises left by Japanese.
Then in the next 40-50 years, they built a party-state system that was similar to communist system. While the party claimed this was "necessities of development", the committee said they embezzled assets that was supposed to be that of national or local government.
The party is also accused of using the profit to run elections in democratic age and created pork barrel politics.
The assets also created a vague sense that mainlanders in general exploited islanders in general.

Migrants.
Migrants are mainly southeast Asians. There're 700k worker with working visa, and 500k (mostly women) who got residency via marriage. There are also 500k mainlanders who stayed via marriage. The general perception is they are poor and came from underdeveloped countries. They are considered lazy or hard working, and have mandarin and Taiwanese proficiency.
There are also Europeans or Americans. Less than 5k I guess.

Taiwan has two kinds of working visa. One is for blue collar workers but doesn't lead to residency. One is for high paying jobs. They can naturalize but the requirement is really high. This limits the number of Europeans.

The movie part is just a personal obcession of mine. I try to find examples of Mainlanders didn't exclude Taiwanese as impurity. That kind of examples dong mean nothing to most Taiwanese though, as they believe they are supposed to be the main character of the show.


Bernd 07/14/2018 (Sat) 10:39:38 [Preview] No.17912 del
Today DPP ran an ad campaign to explain that the pension cut to military ersonel, civil servants and teachers, is necessary. This coincides with a constitutional case filed by some of those people protesting the cut

There is another major issue about "dormitory" and housing problems of college students. The issue began as a legal issue regarding one particular dormitory . But the legal issue became a target in the coming election, and the debate expanded to all students and all universities in Taipei city.

Finally, there were floods in both japan and China.


Bernd 07/14/2018 (Sat) 15:15:46 [Preview] No.17914 del
Today I watched a tv-movie that was heavily promoted. It's a tv series, with each episode running 100 minutes, and was shot in format of a feature movie. Today's episode is about a son born in a major family. The father wanted his son to get good grades to look good in the extended family. The father pressurized the mother and the son. The prestigious school of the son also pressurized him. They developed mental illness for this. The mother, while pressurizing the son, petted a cat to cope with the pressure. The son became angry, and failed the test and tortured a cat. He got expelled and the father left him and the mother in the house. They lost the original track of life and felt desperate. The son saw the mother looking after the pregnant cat and became angry again. just as he was choking the mother, the cat gave birth to small cats. They saw the cat and children and reconciled. The son then learned a trade and worked for an electrician. The mother was ok with the divorce. The son also read bible and repented for the cat he tortured.

So this is the kind of issue and message the tv station is interested in.


Bernd 07/16/2018 (Mon) 13:40:23 [Preview] No.17951 del
Today I watched an episode of Chinese tv drama. It's a biographical story about the famous Chinese "warlord" Zhang Xueliang. He was famous in Taiwan for forcing ROC generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek to stop civil war against communist party and to start war with Japanese. He probably changed the Chinese history.
This tv series begins with a child actor playing Zhang's childhood and focused on his relationship with his father. It's well written and has great costumes and props


Bernd 07/16/2018 (Mon) 19:16:04 [Preview] No.17960 del
>>17911
So Europeans who settle in Taiwan will be most likely in high positions in companies or very specialized professions.

>>17914
>pension cut to military ersonel, civil servants and teachers, is necessary.
Taiwanese state spending needs trimming? How's the economy doing there?

>>17914
>father pressurized the mother and the son
>prestigious school of the son also pressurized him.
>They developed mental illness for this.
I knew this dude in high school with excellent grades. His family made him to learn from private teachers after school and do other such activities. His hair greyed by he was 18.

>>17951
That's sounds interesting for Bernd for sure. Too bad Slovenia doesn't visit us anymore.


Bernd 07/17/2018 (Tue) 07:23:34 [Preview] No.17966 del
>>17911
>they built a party-state system that was similar to communist system

Another proof that society couldn't really change, but builds state in according to it's common spirit.


Bernd 07/19/2018 (Thu) 13:39:24 [Preview] No.17989 del
>>17951
Today's episode is about Japanese attempted to assasinate Zhang's father Zhang Zuolin but they failed. Therefore Zhang and Japanese pretended it never happened and collaborated. The Japanese expected to make a Manchurian puppet state, and Zhang expected to stay independent between japan and Russia.
The father is an excellent actor. The Japanese guy is also good. The acting, writing, props, cars and guns are all excellent.

Then I changed channel and glimpsed a taiwanese contest show. The game is to compete with contestants' knowledge on Chinese characters.
The problem of the show is that it's a mouthpiece of Taiwanese government. They tirelessly tell you that the "traditional" Chinese characters used by Taiwan are the "correct" ones.
And today's division of contestants are mainlander students in Taiwan. And the host tirelessly asked each of them "What's is your favorite "correct" Traditional Chinese character?" Howcome they never ask any Taiwanese contestant this question. They just want to dominate these mainlander students on TV and show that's we have brainwashed them.



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