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Snowden, the greatest millennial who ever lived is a fedora Anonymous 05/08/2019 (Wed) 04:45:28 [Preview] No. 20608
“I feel that religion, adopted purely, is ultimately representative of blindly making someone else’s beliefs your own.”

—⎯Snowden, “A Life of Ambition Despite the Drifting,” The New York Times, June 16, 2013.

Anonymous 05/08/2019 (Wed) 16:04:29 [Preview] No.20619 del
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Snowden sure did help expose the 'Deep State' as Trump likes to call the them. Why doesn't Trump pardon Snowden? After all, Snowden leaked more proof of domestic spying abuses than anyone else ever has.

Anonymous 05/09/2019 (Thu) 01:10:00 [Preview] No.20621 del
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Honestly if he ever gets home safely I would want to vote him into office, and think the non-cable news generation would turn out for him. It would be like voting in Nelson Mendela after he was released from prison. I was very pissed when the US government forced the president of Equador to land his plane for a sudden illegal search when America thought he was smuggling Snowden out of Russia. I wouldn't have the courage to do all that he did if it meant having to live in Russia under a volatile Putin's good graces for the rest of my life. Snowden is at least as much of a war hero as John McCain, and far more handsome.

Anonymous 05/09/2019 (Thu) 19:29:52 [Preview] No.20624 del
John McCain was a neo-con war hawk, not a war hero. Yes, I understand he was a veteran, but the truth is he sung to the enemy like a canary and the ONLY reason McCain got away with doing that is because his grandfather was among the top brass (a four star Navy Admiral), and was very well-off with lots of connections. If any normal average Joe became a POW and squealed to the enemy like McCain did (which almost sunk an aircraft carrier), they'd face military tribunal and be ridiculed live on national TV.

As for Snowden, Putin is allowing him to stay in Russia because it gives Russia a good PR image. It makes them look moral. I have nothing against Snowden, I admire that he exposed some serious corruption and abuses. However comparing Snowden to McCain is a serious mistake. Snowden wasn't a privileged war hawk. Snowden wanted to warn Americans that we were being spied on and this info could be exploited against our will. That took courage and guts.

Anonymous 05/09/2019 (Thu) 19:41:32 [Preview] No.20626 del
Another thing about the real McCain I'd like to get off my chest because I really think he was an asshole, when he was 'representing' Arizona as a politician, McCain was working for special interests looking to land grab from American farmers without ANY compensation what-so-ever. Fortunately this caused an uproar and the farmers took the battle to court, and won. If McCain and his special interests had their way hundreds of farmers would have been forced off their land and properties for not a dimes worth of compensation and would have lost their livelihoods. How is that for an "American hero?"

Anonymous 05/10/2019 (Fri) 06:06:18 [Preview] No.20629 del
thirty seconds strapped in a chair with a rubber hose smashing your balls and you'd be blubbering and crying and confessing to tonguing John F Kennedy's asshole right before you shot him from the grassy knoll

too bad that they both had courage and guts seems to conflict with some other narrative you'd like to push

Anonymous 05/10/2019 (Fri) 07:17:18 [Preview] No.20630 del
Mccain gets a lot of shit for stuff he shouldn't and not enough for stuff he did do like:

And not to mention his warmongering:
>In a speech to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee on April 23, 2002, McCain said that "no American leader should be expected to sell a false peace to our ally, consider Israel's right to self-defense less legitimate than ours, or insist that Israel negotiate a political settlement while terrorism remains the Palestinians' preferred bargaining tool."

> "As long as Saddam Hussein is in power, I am convinced that he will pose a threat to our security."

Bombing Irana just a joke:
>Regarding military action against Iran, McCain said, "I pray every night that we will avoid a conflict with Iran." He has also said, "There's a whole lot of things we can do before we seriously consider the military option," but clarifying, "I still say there's only one thing worse than military action against Iran and that is a nuclear-armed Iran." His comments regarding "bombing Iran" made to veterans in South Carolina have come under scrutiny, despite McCain's statement that the comments were made in jest.

hypocrisy on use of torture, spearheading a bill then giving immunity for people who committed torture:
>McCain, whose 5 and one half years of captivity and torture in Vietnam made him a national celebrity, negotiated (in September 2006) a compromise in the Senate for the Military Commissions Act of 2006, suspending habeas corpus provisions for anyone deemed by the Executive Branch an "unlawful enemy combatant" and barring them from challenging their detentions in court. Coming on the heels of a Supreme Court decision adverse to the White House, McCain's compromise gave a retroactive, nine-year immunity to U.S. officials who authorized, ordered, or committed acts of torture and abuse, and permitted the use of statements obtained through torture to be used in military tribunals so long as the abuse took place by December 30, 2005.

As for people knocking him for being POW that's low, especially from people who have never served (Trump for instance). I've even seen people critical of him for not dying in the Forrestal fire, and even blaming him for it. He was in the plane where the fire started but the other plane somehow shot a rocket at his plane and punctured his fuel tank.

The real issue with the Forrestal fire was they were lugging around a big ass WW2 era bomb pretty much because the higher ups at the time had NOTHING BETTER to do with it.

tldr the guy ain't above criticism especially his public life after Vietnam, but knocking the guy's career in the service is mostly unfounded unless I'm missing something.

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