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Runaway climate change continues Anonymous 04/13/2019 (Sat) 04:30:30 [Preview] No. 20394
"The Last Time CO2 Levels Were This High It Was 3 Million Years Ago."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/04/health/co2-levels-global-warming-climate-intl/index.html

>Sea levels were 20 meters higher
>Greenland was green
>Antarctica had trees

I just don't see us stopping it before it thaws Antarctica as long as get-rich-now capitalism remains unchecked. When are we going to make the best of it? We need to just abandon the equator, kill off the penguins and colonize the edge of Antarctica. I'm going to be the first to buy land in Antarctica as soon as it's legal.


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Anonymous 05/13/2019 (Mon) 20:31:52 [Preview] No.20643 del
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Bill Nye is losing his patience with climate change deniers!


Anonymous 05/14/2019 (Tue) 02:22:34 [Preview] No.20644 del
"It’s difficult to think over the horizon, to organize for the future — to be good ancestors. Doing so means pushing against elements of human nature, the greed of wealthy incumbents, and the sheer inertia of anachronistic mechanisms of governance"

We also should have a national power grid.


Anonymous 06/07/2019 (Fri) 01:42:06 [Preview] No.20821 del
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How soon until all coastal cities become Venice?


Anonymous 06/07/2019 (Fri) 04:30:38 [Preview] No.20824 del
>>20402
maybe stay there


Anonymous 06/07/2019 (Fri) 15:45:19 [Preview] No.20830 del
>>20821
A lot of the recent floods America has been experiencing is because older levees and dams are not being maintained and fixed up as they are required to be. This is due to mismanagement and waste of taxpayer funding that should normally be used to repair and maintain such essential infrastructures. I don't blame that on climate, I blame that on institutionalized incompetence and corruption.


Anonymous 06/07/2019 (Fri) 21:28:56 [Preview] No.20837 del
>>20830
There hasn't been any real investment into infrastructure since the 1970s when the government decided Keynesian economics were dead, and went full Reagan zombie. Neoliberalism and libertarians/fiscal conservatives allied to prioritize the markets over democracy (or the peoples' wants.)When the USSR died, there was no longer any incentive to give social democratic compromises to the people, to discourage radicalism or unions from advocating for bigger changes/revolution. The capitalists then went full opportunistic, lowering taxes, while using America's sole superpower status to enrich the politically connected.

We'll need bigger dams than ever before because of global warming, and we still can't dam the whole coast. Even if we could, poor countries would flood, and when they turn unstable or have to rebuild it would ultimately affect us too.


Anonymous 06/08/2019 (Sat) 03:33:08 [Preview] No.20838 del
>>20837
>There hasn't been any real investment into infrastructure since the 1970s when the government decided Keynesian economics were dead, and went full Reagan zombie.

What we have today is considered Keynesian economics, that is an economic ideology proclaiming endless debt creation and endless spending is perfectly sustainable, that there should be no limit to monetary creation or expansion of the currency supply.

Of-course many are figuring out this is not sustainable at all and it doesn't work very well in the long term, the long term negative impacts far outweigh the short term benefits. And Reagan was also president under this recent Keynesian economic experiment we see today. It was Nixon and his administration who adopted Keynesian economics back in 1971 when they removed the US Dollar from the Bretton Woods gold standard. Ever since our currency was backed by oil trade as global reserve but we continued to spend way beyond our means, creating unsustainable (insolvent) debts that to this day is physically impossible to pay back. For example the US has more debt than the value of all the worlds' resources. That is pretty damn insolvent. It is also dangerous too because this is how world wars can easily break out.

Like it or not, any solution is going to be painful for many people. It requires mass bankruptcy. It requires massive spending cuts. It also requires a government to start punishing those who have abused the system for their own selfish interests. This includes RICO enforcement against major bankers, oligarchs, currency manipulators, inside trades, corrupted institutions involved in racketeering (which would also extend to the Pharmaceutical industry to the perpetrators of the massive student loan racket), corrupt politicians, corrupt officials who have been taking bribes and looting taxpayer funds, et al. And this unfortunately would not bode well for a government that is corrupted itself.


Anonymous 06/13/2019 (Thu) 01:07:52 [Preview] No.20931 del
>>20394
You guys are like those crazy christian sects who keep pulling a date out of their asses and claiming the world will end on that day exactly.
You niggers were saying that half of all dry land was going to disappear by 2010 and 9 years after the fact, how much of our dry land has disappeared?


Anonymous 06/13/2019 (Thu) 03:57:32 [Preview] No.20933 del
>>20931
I never heard that, you've been watching too much water world. But you know that the extinction of half of our species is going to be a major problem. It'll disrupt everything in the ecosystem in ways we cannot forsee. Just imagine if there were no bees.


Anonymous 06/13/2019 (Thu) 04:00:44 [Preview] No.20934 del
>>20838
I do not think we should go back to the gold standard. We spent enormously to extract gold from deep under the earth, refine it, manufacture it, only to bury it underground under high security all over again. It's stupid on the face of it.

Something also needs to be done to reduce the relative assets of the very rich do-nothing class. Inflation coupled with progressively increasing handouts to the working class would help a lot.


Anonymous 06/13/2019 (Thu) 16:12:22 [Preview] No.20943 del
>>20933
Not due to climate change, that's due to deforestation. Climate change is just a distraction to make you feel warm and fuzzy when you support leftist money grabbing politicians who pretend to give a shit about the planet.


Anonymous 06/13/2019 (Thu) 17:33:50 [Preview] No.20946 del
>>20943
Climate change is real. Okay smart guy, if gas doesn't make you hotter then why is the moon freezing cold? Earth is hotter at the same distance from the sun, and Venus is the hottest because it has about 90 times more gas in its atmosphere. It's ludicrous to suggest releasing increasingly more gas in large quantities for 150 years has not made the Earth hotter.


Anonymous 06/24/2019 (Mon) 02:32:08 [Preview] No.21091 del
>>20931
We dont have time to wait out that kind of thinking though. That's the problem nobody admits. We are trained as a species to avoid conflict and agree to disagree on a lot of things and shrug and say "well that's your opinion, but I think differently" and move on. On some topics, and climate change is one of them, there should be absolutely no tolerance for that kind of thinking. We simply dont have the time for them to die out.


Anonymous 07/04/2019 (Thu) 04:27:43 [Preview] No.21175 del
I told my neighbor one day, "If you're driving down the road and Google Maps shows the road ends and there's a river or cliff are you going to slow down or you going to just hope the road continues while you hit the gas?"


Anonymous 07/04/2019 (Thu) 04:52:34 [Preview] No.21177 del
>>21175
What'd he say?


Anonymous 07/04/2019 (Thu) 12:45:26 [Preview] No.21178 del
>>21175
You know what the funny thing is? None of us are in the position to "slow down".
We aren't in a automobile, we aren't even in a bus, we're in some absolutely idiotic sort of vehicle with a varying number of drivers, and the drivers are in a competition with one another, and whoever tries to slow down looses.
Even if e.g. the US government took some significant measures to prevent climage change, this wouldn't make much difference because China still exists, Saudi Arabia still exists, Russia still exists and so on. Although in reality even the us govt will never do such a thing, it'd be suicide basically.
To actually combat global warming nearly all men in power would need to give it up or be stripped off of it, nearly every country's regime would need to be tumbled down.


Anonymous 07/04/2019 (Thu) 19:29:08 [Preview] No.21186 del
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>>21177
Nothing.
>>21178
Most of the pollution from China probably makes American products, and America needs to be the adult in the room. Once America gets serious then other countries can be pressured into following, but nothing can be done as long as the most powerful country elects not to fight climate change because its own oil industry is too powerful.

I found out you can power your smartphone with a $60 solar panel from Best Buys. Or at least power a battery that could charge your phone. Coupled with the whole world agreeing to less suicidal economic growth, we can stop killing Gaia and still have smartphones and shitposting.


Anonymous 07/04/2019 (Thu) 20:36:18 [Preview] No.21188 del
>>21178
The United States has less renewable than a third world country like India.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-renewables-coal/india-plans-330-billion-renewables-push-by-2030-without-hurting-coal-idUSKCN1TZ18G

Electricity generated by renewable energy:

USA = 12.2 %
India = 22% (and set to rise to 40% in 10 years.)

Meanwhile the USA does nothing and blames other countries.


Anonymous 07/05/2019 (Fri) 01:35:33 [Preview] No.21190 del
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>>21186
>Most of the pollution from China probably makes American products, and America needs to be the adult in the room. Once America gets serious then other countries can be pressured into following,
Once America gets serious she gets weak. That's why it'll never get serious
>>21186
>I found out you can power your smartphone with a $60 solar panel from Best Buys. Or at least power a battery that could charge your phone. Coupled with the whole world agreeing to less suicidal economic growth, we can stop killing Gaia and still have smartphones and shitposting.
You know how much toxic shit goes into your smartphone's battery alone right?
Also solar\wind power plants need to have batteries themselves to achieve any reliability. Also I doubt that they'll ever be able provide the same throughput as their fossil-fuel ones.

Maybe nuclear energy is our best bet, at least it doesn't produce waste in such an uncontrollable manner and the waste can be buried somewhere.

Although again without strict control the waste will be all over the place.
So, to actually fight global warming a benevolent government needs to be established, with abolition of competition in such areas.
I guess this planet's climate itself is made up by Jews and neo bolsheviks and also the Chinese.


Anonymous 07/05/2019 (Fri) 02:52:05 [Preview] No.21192 del
>>21190
>you: let's ignore this serious problem
>also you: it's not real
>it's da jooos!

Hey science denier, if atmospheres don't increasing heat then why is the moon colder than Earth and why is Venus 600 degrees? Why is the side of mercury that faces away from the sun freezing cold just like the moon?

I think nuclear will have a place in some overcast northern countries, but there are much better solutions for America. The west coast/Texas can go solar, the east coast can go wind and tidal, and a national electric grid can move the power from west to east and back. The midwest can use hydro, thermo, or windmills. Nuclear can be used to make up the difference when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't out, but it's still dangerous and isn't the long-term solution.


Anonymous 07/05/2019 (Fri) 05:20:01 [Preview] No.21194 del
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>>21188
>its a myth
Meanwhile in France the record heatwave continues...


Anonymous 07/05/2019 (Fri) 08:43:42 [Preview] No.21197 del
>>21192
>you: let's ignore this serious problem
>also you: it's not real
Never said either of these. What I said is, this problem isn't gonna be handled. I do believe this is a serious problem that *must* be handled, I just don't believe it will be.
The only way it gets handled is if it starts seriously bothering the super rich, which I think isn't gonna happen any time soon if ever and definitely not until the middle class in first world countries have faced its consequences.
>it's da jooos!
That last sentence about juice was ironic, I thought I made it obvious.


Anonymous 07/18/2019 (Thu) 00:58:44 [Preview] No.21287 del
In the age of climate breakdown, if nothing fundamentally changes in the political and economic spheres, then absolutely everything is going to change in the physical sphere. Indeed these changes are already well underway. So we either change those human-created systems or the natural systems on which all life depends will ruthlessly force change upon us. Given this and so many other life-and-death crises, would it still be worth substituting Trump for Biden or some similarly compromised runner-up? Without question or hesitation. Getting rid of Trump in 2020 is a civilizational imperative, if only to slow this slide into barbarism.


Anonymous 07/21/2019 (Sun) 00:41:24 [Preview] No.21326 del
Given projected growth in consumption, without new anti-pollution policies oceans are expected by 2050 to contain more plastics than fish by weight, according to the New Plastics Economy report published by Ellen MacArthur Foundation in 2016. The report also found that the entire plastics industry will consume 20% of total oil production by then.

Wow, captain planet and his message doesn't seem so lame anymore.


Anonymous 07/22/2019 (Mon) 04:39:45 [Preview] No.21327 del
>>21190
>Maybe nuclear energy is our best bet, at least it doesn't produce waste in such an uncontrollable manner and the waste can be buried somewhere.
Geothermal too.

>>21190
Advice: don't be a prick if you want to get anybody to listen. At least wait to identify if you are speaking to someone whom could be persuaded before you go into smug lefty mode. Not saying you shouldn't thrash Trumptards and /pol/lacks but don't just assume that every disagreement is from one. Or that every right leaning person is completely unreasonable.


Anonymous 07/22/2019 (Mon) 04:56:26 [Preview] No.21329 del
>>21327
Not him but scientists have literally figured out how to teach five year olds to explain global warming. I know because ELIF. It's not like explaining the nuances of tax policies, it's as simple as explaining that gravity exists, no drugs about it. The trouble is the other side has been conditioned by propaganda from automobile, aviation and fossil fuel industries to deny it to win more "tribal points." They aren't generally interested in the debate, let alone the science, but just winning points. Because winning a debate and feeling right is more important than protecting the survival of the human race.



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