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New Imageboard Concept in Early Planning Stages Anonymous 03/07/2017 (Tue) 02:37:24 [Preview] No. 8160
PROMISEDCHAN (name liable to future change)
There is a new imageboard-software concept in the works. Addressing the problem of powerful moderating positions being compromised and shitting up the board against the will of board communities and their established board culture.
(See: 8/b/, 8/pol/, etc.)
>Nothing that isn't spam or illegal is deleted, ever. You can subscribe to different moderation teams (and bots) to have the shit filtered to your liking. There would be a default moderation team for each board but the default would change if the majority changed the moderators they subscribed to.

>To keep normies from freaking the fuck out a default profile of moderation subscriptions will be applied by default, the default moderation will be decided by an impartial algorithm that takes in to account the modoration most users in a board choose, weighting the chooses by activity.

Unfortunately there is a shortage of skilled /tech/anons who are willing to assist in the planning and development of this new imageboard concept, which is holding back development.

If you're interested in assisting in the development of this new imageboard concept, please go to
http://8ch.net/polk/res/102.html
If the link is broken, try checking the catalog on
http://8ch.net/polk/


Anonymous 03/07/2017 (Tue) 02:50:04 [Preview] No. 8161 del
>Another ib/ib software that will surely fix mod issues and be the true alternative to 4chan and 8ch.

Even if it gets done it will be dead in a couple of months. In case you haven't noticed, every one of these ibs that have stepped up claiming to be the new answer to 8ch have been ghost towns, no major movement of users has yet to occur no matter how many times users on alt /pol/'s kick and scream they are the troo anons.

Good luck getting boards outside the top 3 to care since most other boards like /tg/ and /a/ like their staff and have shown no fucks given about Jim. At best you'll be the new polchan.


Anonymous 03/07/2017 (Tue) 11:36:27 [Preview] No. 8163 del
it won't work

either we'll have a fully P2P imageboard software where nothing's deleted or it will fall for the same reason every other "muh alternative authority" concept failed, human nature


Anonymous 03/07/2017 (Tue) 11:38:32 [Preview] No. 8164 del
>>8163

also even the suggestion that spam and illegal things are bad proves that you don't realize the true problem


Anonymous 03/07/2017 (Tue) 12:15:33 [Preview] No. 8165 del
It won't work at large scale because pages would have to be dynamic.


Anonymous 03/07/2017 (Tue) 13:10:05 [Preview] No. 8166 del
>>8160
>/polk/
>Same board where you get banned for "low-effort posting", yet at the same time allows some plebbitor whom unironically uses "le" and can't refute.


Anonymous 03/07/2017 (Tue) 13:27:03 [Preview] No. 8167 del
>>8160
Also this "new imageboard concept" almost exactly describes how nntpchan is structured


Anonymous 03/08/2017 (Wed) 13:52:53 [Preview] No. 8172 del
This is all you need to know:

>but seriously I did some calculations and scouting out vps rates based on 4chan's traffic and its not cheap

So many things wrong with this...


Anonymous 03/08/2017 (Wed) 14:22:19 [Preview] No. 8173 del
compromised chan


Anonymous 03/08/2017 (Wed) 15:31:34 [Preview] No. 8174 del


Anonymous 03/08/2017 (Wed) 20:10:55 [Preview] No. 8175 del
>>8173
Nicely done


Anonymous 03/17/2017 (Fri) 03:36:19 [Preview] No. 8198 del
>>8160

Love the font in your image. Makes me want to buy a lowrider and join MS-13 and say "vato" and "ese" a lot.


Anonymous 03/18/2017 (Sat) 14:45:53 [Preview] No. 8201 del
>>8160
Yes and how do you respond to claims that PROMISED chan is actually a comPROMISED chan?


Anonymous 04/02/2017 (Sun) 00:13:23 [Preview] No. 8212 del
>>8160
>You can subscribe to different moderation teams (and bots) to have the shit filtered to your liking. There would be a default moderation team for each board but the default would change if the majority changed the moderators they subscribed to.
Something something creating context. This won't solve shit.


Anonymous 04/02/2017 (Sun) 02:42:40 [Preview] No. 8213 del
Holy shit why did I never think of something like this.

OP, you are based, and I'm going to spread awareness of your idea. If you'd like I can share the very fucking long list of stuff I'd like to see implemented.

Please also make your UI not suck. The big problem with endchan is all the fucking random shit that is everywhere that could be buried in menus so it doesn't make a mess of everything.


Anonymous 04/02/2017 (Sun) 03:42:03 [Preview] No. 8214 del
OP HERE
good news and bad news.

the bad news
is that the lead for this project disappeared before this got past the planning stage.

more bad news;
double cuckchan (8chan) got hacked (or at least it appears to have, it still might just be an april fools prank) and the original thread for the development is possibly deleted. However, this might not even matter because of the good news.

the good news
is that both developers of Blazechan and NNTPchan have expressed interest in incorporating this concept into their own imageboard softwares. With the possible loss of the original thread, there is presently no where to organize and group together for collaboration. I will make an effort to contact both developers to see which ones could use some help in accelerating the development/integration of the promisechan concept on their own imageboard softwares; and also where to go to assist in whatever ways you can, be it programming-coding-further planning and conceptual development. I am determined that this idea will reach it's final realization in one way or another. IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, I BELIEVE THE FUTURE OF IMAGEBOARDS DEPEND ON IT.

I will make sure to keep you guys posted for any further updates- if I can keep track of all the places I spammed this.


Anonymous 04/02/2017 (Sun) 03:45:14 [Preview] No. 8215 del
>>8201
by calling the accuser a faggot for not providing any substantial evidence to support his claim. Although I will have to admit that the wording is actually pretty clever.


Anonymous Board owner 04/02/2017 (Sun) 10:30:57 [Preview] No. 8217 del
>>8214
8chan genuinely got hacked, but all /tech/ threads can be recovered and should be restored when the site starts working again.


Anonymous 04/02/2017 (Sun) 10:52:52 [Preview] No. 8218 del
>>8217
Implying they can fix it.


Anonymous 04/02/2017 (Sun) 22:44:00 [Preview] No. 8221 del
>>8173
your rebuttal please


Anonymous 04/02/2017 (Sun) 23:46:19 [Preview] No. 8227 del
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no one will ever replace nntpchan imo, it will only be extended.


Anonymous 04/03/2017 (Mon) 00:30:31 [Preview] No. 8228 del
>>8227
never heard of it. address? is it a good chan? I mean, I like endchan and everything of course.


Anonymous 04/03/2017 (Mon) 05:14:46 [Preview] No. 8229 del
>>8214

>IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, I BELIEVE THE FUTURE OF IMAGEBOARDS DEPEND ON IT.

Imageboards have no future. At least, imageboards as I think of them, and as they used to be in the 4chan heyday have no future. moot and failwheels killed imageboard culture, though to be fair to glassybones, he didn't have as much to do with it as moot did. But his betrayal of the 4chan refugees who actually gave 8chan some significant traffic for the first time in its existence was the coda to what moot started.

You're not the first person to try to save imageboard culture or launch it into the future, and I'm sure you won't be the last, but at this point, I'm convinced that you'll fail like all the rest. You don't understand that the problem isn't a technical/technological one, and it's not going to be solved by technical means. It's a cultural, social, demographic, and even legal problem, and it's fundamentally not amenable to technological fixes like the one you're proposing.

You can observe this in the illogic of those who looked to 8chan's software as the solution for 4chan's problems, and blamed 8chan's bugs on 8chan's problems. Shitty moderation on 4chan? No problem, our *software* on 8chan allows you to create your own board! Moderate however you like! There's just one global rule: don't post anything illegal in the US! Except that one rule turned out to be more than one rule and there were, in fact, all kinds of unwritten rules there. Again, that's a human problem, not a technological one. And, by the same token, when 8chan was slow, and experiencing posting problems and the like, people blamed the subsequent, seemingly permanent drop in PPH/users on that. But they don't remember their imageboard history: pre-2010, 4chan had a number of significant outages and bugs, including a total outage that lasted several days. But the userbase always came back. Again, the technology wasn't what brought and kept a userbase. And it won't be this time, either.

As for your specific idea, any bot or "impartial" kek algorithm that you are likely to be able to create will be both complex and almost totally ineffective. You're proposing, rather casually, tackling a very hard CS problem. And even if your team had the chops to do it, you'd wind up with a bot of extraordinary complexity that any human could *still* fool with very little effort.

Also, choosing your human moderators doesn't make a system free from abuse. To take a couple of trivial examples, let's say that you're interested in (legal) pedo content, among other things. You subscribe to moderation that promises to be neutral on loli, pedo discussion, etc. Super. Thing is, the moderation guy/team are hardcore antis. They let enough -phile content slip through so you don't get suspicious, but block the vast majority of it from being seen under your moderation profile. Because of your unwarranted trust, you're missing content you want, and you don't know it. To take another example, let's say your human moderators are pretty good at spotting product shilling that's disguised as a greentext thread, or a warning about some bad product or service (which just happens to be that of the shill's competitor), etc. But a shill wants to be able to slip in a few threads about his stuff, so he throws some satoshi the way of one of the more popular/influential moderation teams, and they agree to look the other way. The users are none the wiser.

The point is that people don't know what they don't know. The moderation system you're proposing is quite prone to various abuses for that reason, among others.

In addition, people are lazy. That was one of the reasons the exodus from 4chan to 8chan wasn't larger. A lot of people just couldn't be arsed to switch. How large is the pool of people, do you think, that will be willing even to figure out how the hell your system works, let alone bother to subscribe to different kinds of moderation?

I mean, 3 people isn't much of a userbase, but I guess it's a userbase. Onward Imageboard Soldiers. Best of luck.


Anonymous 04/04/2017 (Tue) 13:45:31 [Preview] No. 8240 del
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>>8229
>pedo content
>(legal) pedo content
Fuck off, pedophiles are cancerous fags who ruin any community they touch.


Anonymous 04/04/2017 (Tue) 14:41:42 [Preview] No. 8241 del
>>8240
I could say the same about any subculture I dont like especially the horse fuckers


Anonymous 04/04/2017 (Tue) 15:34:15 [Preview] No. 8242 del
>>8241
>pedophiles
>just another subculture


Anonymous 04/08/2017 (Sat) 18:26:38 [Preview] No. 8257 del
>>8163
>a fully P2P imageboard software

Zerochan exists running off zeronet, fully p2p and decentralized including the domain name.


Anonymous 04/09/2017 (Sun) 12:08:00 [Preview] No. 8278 del
>>8257
too bad it's not anonymous in any way.


Anonymous 04/09/2017 (Sun) 12:10:36 [Preview] No. 8279 del
>>8257
Why do people still care about zeronet

It's literally a botnet and makes nonsense because i2p exist.


Anonymous 04/09/2017 (Sun) 12:18:30 [Preview] No. 8280 del
>>8279
idk, freenet is pretty cool. much cooler than zeronet.


Anonymous 04/10/2017 (Mon) 18:27:11 [Preview] No. 8287 del
>>8229
so why aren't we making open source social engineering botnets to move user mass onto imageboards again? shouldn't be too hard to shill, we have some of the world's top shills currently browsing this site.



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