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Anonymous 11/08/2016 (Tue) 12:47:02 [Preview] No. 7324
I'm running an instance of Tokumei that some of you wanted, I do not host the tor SFTP anymore.

https://torvalds.xyz/

Its pretty much anonymous microblogging with freedom of speech intended. Go mad.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 15:37:42 [Preview] No. 7816 del
>>7324
Bump.


Anonymous 01/11/2017 (Wed) 20:31:21 [Preview] No. 7823 del
>>7816
why?


Anonymous 01/12/2017 (Thu) 22:47:28 [Preview] No. 7827 del
hi walrus;

new posts are being posted to the end of the line (page 8)


Anonymous 01/29/2017 (Sun) 02:42:36 [Preview] No. 7891 del
>502 Bad Gateway
am I being punked


Anonymous 02/01/2017 (Wed) 12:40:26 [Preview] No. 7901 del
>>7324
RIP torvalds.xyz
2016 - 2017
rekt by error 502
You will be missed...


Anonymous 02/01/2017 (Wed) 21:03:31 [Preview] No. 7902 del
>>7901

>You will be missed...

Let's not go overboard.


Anonymous 02/03/2017 (Fri) 13:10:08 [Preview] No. 7920 del
>>7902
Well, yeah okay that was a little dramatic, but it was kinda fun while it lasted. It's back though, but still flooded by spam. Captcha WHEN?!


Anonymous 02/03/2017 (Fri) 18:14:50 [Preview] No. 7921 del
>>7324
what the fuck is this shit and why is it full of spam?


Anonymous 02/03/2017 (Fri) 19:09:18 [Preview] No. 7922 del
>>7921
werc-based (or maybe werchan, dunno) "microblogging" software that was raped by material design and running instance of it. Some fag called walrusEOF seems to be both admin of instance and developer. Spam - because Walrus can't start developing captcha for own instance without getting first customer scammed for "support" - https://www.tokumei.co/commercial


Anonymous 02/04/2017 (Sat) 19:23:14 [Preview] No. 7930 del
>>7922
I'm not a fag. :(


Anonymous 02/04/2017 (Sat) 20:10:36 [Preview] No. 7931 del
>>7930

>I'm not a fag. :(

Let's not go overboard.


Anonymous 02/05/2017 (Sun) 15:46:53 [Preview] No. 7933 del
>>7931

>Let's not go overboard

Let's not go over the board.


Anonymous 02/05/2017 (Sun) 21:54:20 [Preview] No. 7936 del
>>7933
Let's not let the board go over


Anonymous 02/15/2017 (Wed) 05:29:25 [Preview] No. 8026 del
Regarding 502s and other errors: Walrus took down torvalds.xyz pending captcha support to stop spam. I finished reCAPTCHA apps on Friday and we are just waiting on Walrus to install them on torvalds.xyz. I let him know but haven't heard back yet.

https://github.com/tokumeico/tokumei-recaptcha

>>7922
Tokumei is werc-based and is forked from my previous werc project Scholarly which was in turn forked from my previous werc project werchan. There is not much Scholarly or werchan code left in Tokumei.

Walrus is the admin of the torvalds.xyz instance but not a Tokumei developer.

We offer commercial services including custom feature development. Captcha is just an example of a feature someone might pay us to implement for them. But Tokumei is free software and there is nothing stopping those who are capable from implementing new features themselves. Commercial service customers are not paying for existing software, they are hiring us to write new software for them. We are not hiding a captcha app behind a paywall, we just didn't have the resources or incentive to make one for free.

Walrus didn't know how to implement captcha so I did it myself. I did it for free because torvalds.xyz is presently the only public Tokumei instance so it being rendered unusable by spam hurts Tokumei too. I provide free extended support to torvalds.xyz too. Since we are quite busy (Tokumei is two full-time students already working part-time) and we weren't being paid to implement captcha, it took some time. But we are not deliberately holding torvalds.xyz hostage to make money.


Anonymous 02/15/2017 (Wed) 09:44:14 [Preview] No. 8027 del
>>8026
Three bitcoin wallets (one declared as belonging to "Walrus" and two other as "tokumei") and all of them being 1Q31UMtim2ujr3VX5QcS3o95VF2ceiwzzc is pure coincidence?

>reCAPTCHA
Well... You sure knew worst variant.


Anonymous 02/15/2017 (Wed) 18:06:49 [Preview] No. 8028 del
>>8027
You are welcome to mail Walrus <walruseof@protonmail.ch> and ask why he misconfigured the donate page.

reCAPTCHA is effective, easy for end users, has a good noscript fallback, and has a good API. Naturally not everyone has the same captcha preference as me and that is why I've made it as easy as possible (technically and license-wise) for you to fork tokumei-recaptcha and make it use a different captcha implementation.


Anonymous 02/20/2017 (Mon) 07:44:07 [Preview] No. 8051 del
>>8028
>reCAPTCHA is effective, easy for end users
no. fuck off with this shit. your site was completely broken shit when you spammed it on 8ch/tech/, with beliefs like this no wonder. since you can't even stray from coding "user friendly" bullshit like HN UX hipsters do, your site will never be useful to anyone who cares about privacy or security


Anonymous 02/21/2017 (Tue) 04:44:05 [Preview] No. 8059 del
>>8051
Once again, I am not Walrus. My site was not broken, and I did not spam /tech/.

reCAPTCHA *is* effective enough. Google offers a difficulty slider when you generate an API keypair and the maximum difficulty is enough for nearly any site (I can barely solve them as a human). The minimum is quite good too; in practice even a dumb captcha whose answer is always the same keeps out nearly all spam.

reCAPTCHA *is* easy for end users. Many just need to click on a check box.

Obviously a captcha can't be perfectly effective and easy for end users at the same time, but reCAPTCHA's difficulty slider lets individual Tokumei sites decide what balance they want.

Regarding privacy and security, reCAPTCHA is very good. With the minimum difficulty settings we recommend, it can be solved without JavaScript using the Tor Browser Bundle. If you'd read the Tokumei site instead of just skimming torvalds.xyz and assuming Walrus is responsible for everything, you would know we shill Tor hard. Tokumei's site index recommends privacy-conscious sites that support Tor. We will index any sites that configure reCAPTCHA to be unusable with Tor with a 0/5 free speech rating.

I write user-friendly software with good UX not because I am a hipster (I personally hate material design) but because I am selling my software to users. For most users, material design is friendly. For the rest, I provide an excellent API so you can post from the command line or write your own interface. The material web interface also provides an easy way to install custom CSS to strip material bits you don't like. I don't know what else you want.

If you think Tokumei is HN hipstershit, you have not read a line of code.


Anonymous 02/21/2017 (Tue) 15:52:23 [Preview] No. 8065 del
>>8059
So, why then you would give your users website visit info to Google if dumb captcha with fixed answer is enough (and unless someone goes after spamming your very specific site it holds true)? Why not make locally generated captcha like this website does? I dislike how exactly captcha is implemented here (see lynxchan thread, >>7569), but it is many times better than privacy-invading Google's "service".


Anonymous 02/21/2017 (Tue) 17:22:41 [Preview] No. 8067 del
>>8065
>So, why then you would give your users website visit info to Google

Unless users ignore our recommendation to use TBB, we are not giving any useful info to either the Tokumei site host or to Google.

In the edge case that a user trusts a Tokumei host enough to access a site over the clearnet (either the site is served over the clearnet directly or they use a gateway) but does not trust Google, you have a point.

>if dumb captcha with fixed answer is enough

For Tokumei sites where this is enough, indeed this should be used over the tokumei-recaptcha apps.

>Why not make locally generated captcha like this website does?

Because captcha is complex and Tokumei is not HN shit. This nodeshit website depends on fucking ImageMagick.

But for clearnet hosts that want to avoid pinging Google and don't care about back end complexity, sure, a local captcha app would be good.

So reCAPTCHA is a pretty good choice for torvalds.xyz and for most hosts. It was easy to implement (torvalds.xyz is suffering downtime because of spam, so it needed captcha ASAP. As it turns out, Walrus has neglected to install tokumei-recaptcha for over a week anyway), torvalds.xyz is big enough to need more than a dumb captcha (or will before long), and torvalds.xyz recommends Tor and works without JavaScript.

You are right that reCAPTCHA might be a bad choice for other Tokumei hosts, which again is why it is very easy to replace it. Captcha functionality is totally modular and tokumei-recaptcha is not even included in the base install. If a Tokumei host wants a dumb captcha or a locally-generated captcha, they can fork tokumei-recaptcha with help from our free support, or pay us to do it for them.


Anonymous 02/27/2017 (Mon) 19:35:42 [Preview] No. 8129 del
>>8059
what the fuck. how can anyone be this stupid (assuming they're not a shill)?

captcha slider is meaningless. it is a concept made up to make customers feel good about themselves.

>I write user-friendly software with good UX
No, you missed the irony. UX is not a legitimate field. It's a term thrown around by charlatans to pretend user interface design is too hard for developers and needs professional people trained in CYBER-PSYCHOLOGICAL interaction and what not. Then it provides a set of doctrines about how to design user interfaces, and the result is completely retarded shit, such as your site. At this point I can't even remember what your site looked like because it was down every time this thread got bumped, but it was twitter tier buggy unusable slow garbage.

>The material web interface also provides an easy way to install custom CSS to strip material bits you don't like. I don't know what else you want.
No you don't understand, your site was shit and hardly worked at all. See post on 8ch/tech:
>I had JS off initially, so clicking "SPEAK FREELY" would bring me to a page with a post form which silently fails. Going again with JS, if you look really hard (or I suppose smart phone users might notice it right away), there's a pencil button at the bottom right. But then it still silently fails. I even tried the .onion domain and same result.

>reCAPTCHA *is* easy for end users. Many just need to click on a check box.
Yes, users who use the same cookies and IP for months at a time. When you tie personal identity to every transaction you make on the internet, captcha is redundant. You do not need Google to implement such a trivial feature. 4chan had this feature a decade before the G.

>>8067
>Because captcha is complex and Tokumei is not HN shit.
Holy fuck this is next level bullshit. Now you've just gone into sophist territory. HN bullshit is *precisely* the use of Cloud Based Herp Derp as a Service (CBHDaaS) services like google analytics and recaptcha, not the opposite definition you just made up.
>Captcha is complex
why does this matter? you can just install one of the existing 10000 solutions to your site

Also you don't even seem to understand the purpose of Tor. Privacy is still expected when accessing the clearnet. That is THE WHOLE POINT in Tor. You sound as clueless as CloudFlare on this subject. By using 3rd party services you reduce privacy and security. If you want privacy or security, you DONT USE GOOGLE. Google BLOCKS TOR USERS FROM SOLVING CAPTCHAS AT ALL dpending on the time of day (which is no surprisex: you're giving them the power to decide who can access your site). You wouldn't know this because you're not a Tor user. When you use recaptcha, you train Google's AI, which means less privacy for everyone. When you use recaptcha, you enforce the public opinion that recaptcha is the only legitimate way to classify internet traffic as human. This shit is pure cancer and there's absolutely no excuse for using it. You retards seem to be multiplying and need to be stopped. I don't even care about your stupid site, it's a grain of sand in the pile of countless bullshit on the internet. It's your retarded opinions that are getting on my nerves.


Anonymous 03/01/2017 (Wed) 17:22:02 [Preview] No. 8139 del
Torvalds is back up and running, all fresh and new with a captcha for no spam. :)


Anonymous 03/02/2017 (Thu) 02:17:03 [Preview] No. 8141 del



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