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Anonymous 09/26/2016 (Mon) 14:29:26 [Preview] No. 6833
I was using archive.is to get a better view on sites that rely on javascript and now they've enabled CloudFlare which require javascript.

Is there any alternative to it ?


Anonymous 09/26/2016 (Mon) 18:07:06 [Preview] No. 6836 del
archive.is memers, get cucked


Anonymous 09/26/2016 (Mon) 18:36:45 [Preview] No. 6840 del
>>6837
Can I archive urls using web.archive ?


Anonymous 09/26/2016 (Mon) 18:40:06 [Preview] No. 6841 del
Cloudflare only requires javascript for those business sites which pay for them and who turn off the Google captcha.

I use Ctrl+Shift+L (new circuit for this site) until i find a new exit node which is not blacklisted at Cloudflare (they update their list every 15 minutes).

Or just simply abandon that site, and move on to the next.

ProTip for searching: just ignore the first 10-20 results and enjoy the web without Javascript and Cloudflare.


Anonymous 09/26/2016 (Mon) 21:14:25 [Preview] No. 6845 del
>>6841
on topic of Javascript-less internet, what search engines you recommend?


Anonymous 09/26/2016 (Mon) 21:18:56 [Preview] No. 6847 del
>>6840
>host unreachable
no


Anonymous 09/27/2016 (Tue) 09:30:31 [Preview] No. 6853 del
>>6840
Yes, you can. You need to add the prefix "web.archive.org/save/" to your url.
So, if you want to archive the following url:

https://endchan.xyz/tech/

You need to put the prefix:

web.archive.org/save/https://endchan.xyz/tech/

It will take some time if you have CSS activated, but if you use a text based browser it's kinda fast.

>>6845
I don't know any search engine or metacrawler that filter javascript-less websites. But I personally use searx and it's pretty good. This public instance seems good:
https://searx.fossencdi.org/


Anonymous 09/27/2016 (Tue) 09:54:13 [Preview] No. 6855 del
>>6853
I've been meaning to switch over to searx but there's no way to save settings without cookies similar to what startpage does and that kind of irks me.
Thanks for the info on web.archive


Anonymous 09/29/2016 (Thu) 06:58:45 [Preview] No. 6886 del
yeah this shit is getting cancerous
some sites (and increasingly more) can't even be crawled because their admins disable the robot.txt


Anonymous 09/29/2016 (Thu) 08:38:45 [Preview] No. 6889 del
My own little webpage have
User-agent: *
Disallow: /

I am bad? That's hidden service.


Anonymous 09/29/2016 (Thu) 09:01:32 [Preview] No. 6892 del
>>6889
I am talking about major outlet who fucks your browser with ad/spyware the moment you load them yet still disallow public crawler with a purpose like archivers

FeelsJewMan does it not?


Anonymous 10/02/2016 (Sun) 07:57:26 [Preview] No. 6928 del
Daily reminder that cloudflare is NSA front that intercepts and can tamper with the plaintext of HTTPS connections.


Anonymous 10/02/2016 (Sun) 18:07:48 [Preview] No. 6933 del
>>6928
Yeah-yeah. How to convince nigger admins that use it on their sites?


Anonymous 10/02/2016 (Sun) 22:04:58 [Preview] No. 6934 del
>>6853
Please don't use archive.org for this purpose. There are many things which is not worth to archive. Please don't abuse that great service by pushing there everything you see.

There are thousands of free proxies out there which don't require javascript and not blocked by Cloudflare either.

https://proxy-nl.hide.me/go.php has pretty acceptable speed for example. Of course their privacy policy is similar to archive.org's so treat it as such.


Anonymous 10/03/2016 (Mon) 10:00:26 [Preview] No. 6936 del
>>6934
Many things are ALREADY saved by web.archive.org. And I doubt saving actually readable and worthy page (and not some meaningless SEO crap) is "abuse".

This proxy does not work for me and I am lazy to find out why :)


Anonymous 10/04/2016 (Tue) 13:54:42 [Preview] No. 6942 del
nyaa just switched to cloudflare
call the cops I think I'm going to kill myself.


Anonymous 10/04/2016 (Tue) 16:16:00 [Preview] No. 6944 del
>>6942
Ohh nevermind, nyaa was just down and cloudflare was showing up.


Anonymous 10/05/2016 (Wed) 12:47:10 [Preview] No. 6960 del
What? If Cloudflare shows up, that means they're already using Cloudflare...


Anonymous 10/08/2016 (Sat) 21:05:18 [Preview] No. 7018 del
>>6855
>no way to save settings without cookies similar to what startpage does
I don't like that either. I'd rather nuke all my cookies and I don't want to install a Cookie Manager.

>>6928
Good, because I did not know this.


Anonymous 10/17/2016 (Mon) 02:30:05 [Preview] No. 7134 del
>>6933
If the admins really are Negroes, ask them if they care about Black Lives Matter, and what they would think if cloudflare automatically surveilled and censored all posts and videos proving police officers to be guilty of murder. Because cloudflare can do that on every site that use them.

Else, please copy and paste this post.

Why cloudflare is cancer to the internet

-cloudflare makes it extremely difficult for Tor users and users who disable javascript. This difficulty was originally just a simple CAPTCHA, that progressed into impossible CAPTCHAs (CAPTCHAs that would reject all answers), and finally outright blocks in the case of archive.is; this effectively bans the most security and privacy-conscious users from your site.

-cloudflare arbitrarily bans whoever they want. Today, it is Tor users who disable javascript. Tomorrow, it could be all Firefox users, Linux users, VPN users, Brazillians, Germans, Snowden supporters, filesharers, anons, children, women, homosexuals, Christians. The exact criteria doesn't matter, because it is completely at the whim of cloudflare.

-cloudflare completely breaks SSL

Standard SSL handshake
User -> website's key -> website
User <- User's key <- website

Only the User and the website can read or write data transferred over the HTTPS connection. Authenticity, integrity, confidentiality guarenteed by cryptography.

cloudflare's SSLmao fuck not
User -> cloudflare's key -> cloudflare -> website's key -> website
User <- User's key <- cloudflare <- cloudflare's key <- website

cloudflare outright decrypts ALL CIPHERTEXT THAT PASSES THROUGH IT. cloudflare has COMPLETE ACCESS TO ALL PLAINTEXT. In other words, cloudflare in a Man-in-the-Middle (MitM) attack.

-cloudflare (untraceably) conducts internet surveillance
-cloudflare (untraceably) steals passwords: online banking, e-voting, internet connected devices, medical implants. If you have used a web frontend for server admin such as PHPMyAdmin, then cloudflare has your server's login password.
-cloudflare (untraceably) steals data: every file uploaded through cloudflare can be read by cloudflare.
-cloudflare can (untraceably) censor content
-cloudflare can implement an Acceptable Content Policy, denying access to any site that does not conform and censor content.
-Word filter
-Copyright detection
-Deep-packet inspection
-Per-user censorship
-cloudflare can (untraceably) tamper with content
-JS exploit injection
-Altering downloaded executables
-Misattributing words
-Framing users for sending data that they did not send.

Untraceably, because unlike a standard MitM, which can always be detected by saving and comparing public keys between sessions, cloudflare is always in the middle and is always either forging a fake public key or even TAKING YOUR PRIVATE KEY.

-cloudflare centralizes the internet, creating a single point of failure. If cloudflare goes down, every server routing through them goes down.

-cloudflare does not actually protect against hacking. They can be bypassed using any proxy other than Tor, let alone nation-state botnets of hundreds of millions of compromised systems.

-cloudflare costs money. You are paying for the privilege of giving away your domain, SSL key and server traffic to a third party.

The rational conclusion to the above would be that cloudflare is attempting to consume the entire internet, like cancer.

As cloudflare is a US corporation, which appeared out of nowhere with more bandwidth and better hardware than most ISPs and has rapidly spread across the internet, it is highly likely they are an NSA front designed to completely take over the internet. Use cloudflare or be DDoS'd, that is the definition of a protection racket. Do not let them succeed, if you value the internet.

Alternatives to cloudflare

-Just don't use cloudflare. You are not going to DDoS'd. Botnets have finite bandwidth, they cannot DDoS everyone. Even if you were, no DDoS lasts longer than 1 business day, because that is the maximum time it takes for an ISP to disconnect the IP participating in the attack for ToS violation.

-Use an alternate proxy service, such as Tor, I2P, VPN or even an open proxy, all of which do the same thing of hiding your IP, except in a free, secure, decentralized way.

-Long term solution is a distributed, peer-to-peer network such as Freenet, GNUnet or meshnet. An intermediate step is the decentralized server, where a single server is replaced by multiple nodes that sync with each other, such as in Usenet or NNTPchan.

-Content-level encryption, e.g. HTML files that are signed and encrypted using PGP by the server. HTML files then decrypted by user's browser extension. End-to-end encryption regardless of medium, including even through intercepting proxies and website mirrors.


Anonymous 10/17/2016 (Mon) 09:31:54 [Preview] No. 7138 del
>>7134
That's a bit tl;dr for niggers


Anonymous 10/22/2016 (Sat) 05:54:32 [Preview] No. 7178 del
>>7138

TL;DR? CLOUDFLARE takes your HTTPS certificate, intercepts and decrypts (MitM) every secure HTTPS connection to your server and sends literally everything to the NSA.

They can ban, surveil, censor and tamper with anything transmitted over their network untraceably. You pay them to subject your site to the Great Firewall of China on steroids.

Using CLOUDFLARE will give the NSA complete control of your website. CLOUDFLARE is internet cancer, do not use them.


Anonymous 10/23/2016 (Sun) 07:16:18 [Preview] No. 7179 del
It is possible to access cloudcock protected pages through startpage proxy. But some sites would be broken without javascript and disabled forms.


Anonymous 10/23/2016 (Sun) 11:31:40 [Preview] No. 7180 del
>>6889
No, it is not bad (if you don't use Cloudflare).

Since archive.org does not respect the "right to be forgotten", I see blocking it is a fair choice.


Anonymous 11/03/2016 (Thu) 19:04:59 [Preview] No. 7266 del
haha so that's the strangelooking shitty buffering shit I got from time to time.
too bad I don't use javascript


Anonymous 11/03/2016 (Thu) 19:06:43 [Preview] No. 7267 del
>> 7266
I retract that, I'm to high to read anything now, I'm not sure if it even relies on javascript or shit


Anonymous 11/04/2016 (Fri) 06:37:44 [Preview] No. 7280 del
so what you can do is to use a free webproxy that is not cloudflare encumbered and from there connect to archive.is, but that fucks up any links you might want to click in the archived website.

>>6934
>Please don't use archive.org for this purpose
fuck you, do you even understand the graveness of the situation?
>There are thousands of free proxies out there which don't require javascript and not blocked by Cloudflare either.
oh you don't even understand what the problem is. nvm.

>I use web.archive.org to bypass cuckflare
great, except this isn't the problem here.
web.archive.org does not parse javascript and it is really inconvenient to use without having javascript enabled for yourself.
unless you suggest we use archive.org to archive archive.is in order to tell it to archive some javascript hipster site.


Anonymous 11/04/2016 (Fri) 11:23:46 [Preview] No. 7283 del
>really inconvenient to use without having javascript enabled
web.archive.org/web/http://example.com/
web.archive.org/save/http://example.com/

wew

on CSS-enabled browsers you'd be annoyed by "saving page" thing not going away. But for accessing page text (95% of time random article perfectly readable without JS) just prefix URL with web.archive.org/web/, works for most pages you'd find in search results.


Anonymous 11/04/2016 (Fri) 12:10:49 [Preview] No. 7285 del
>>>7280
> > Please don't use archive.org for this purpose
> fuck you, do you even understand the graveness of the situation?

Oh yes man, I perfectly understand the situation. But archive.org has a much lower budget than the NSA. We don't have infinite storage. And archive.org does not do 'incremental updates' on the sites. When hundreds of people like >>6853 visit the same site using the "web.archive.org/save/" prefix, the full page is saved every time if there is a single tracking pixel changed.

You may use the "web.archive.org/web/" prefix, but if you are using it only to get around Cloudflare, how does it fit more to your purpose than a free web proxy?


Anonymous 11/04/2016 (Fri) 12:18:27 [Preview] No. 7286 del
>>7285
requesting JS-free (web)proxies suitable for cuckflare view


Anonymous 11/04/2016 (Fri) 13:08:18 [Preview] No. 7288 del
>>7286
https://proxy-nl.hide.me/
https://kproxy.com/
https://hidester.com/proxy/
https://proxy.toolur.com/
...

I searched for the "free proxy" string with Startpage. From the top 10 results
4 are working without js and with Tor, 2 are not working without js, 2 are using Cloudflare, and 2 are not proxies. There is also life beyond the first 10 results if you don't like the ones above.

Are you satisfied with your care?


Anonymous 11/04/2016 (Fri) 13:25:00 [Preview] No. 7289 del


Anonymous 11/04/2016 (Fri) 14:09:41 [Preview] No. 7290 del
>>7289
Seems to be an amazing project. Is it still active? dev.picidae.net and svn.picidae.net seem to be down. :(


Anonymous 11/04/2016 (Fri) 14:23:40 [Preview] No. 7291 del
>tor-resolve picidae.net
>176.28.39.27

>tor-resolve dev.picidae.net
>178.254.36.163

>tor-socks nc picidae.net 80
>GET / HTTP/1.1
>Host: dev.picidae.net
>
>HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden

Welp, I have no idea where dev.picidae.net is located.


Anonymous 11/04/2016 (Fri) 14:28:45 [Preview] No. 7292 del
Checked net.picidae.net too. There's little different website picidae site. Wiki is not there (if was used to be on that host).


Anonymous 11/07/2016 (Mon) 13:32:39 [Preview] No. 7319 del
>>7289
http://pici.picidae.net/
wow, that is great.

>>7285
>When hundreds of people like >>6853 visit the same site using the "web.archive.org/save/" prefix, the full page is saved every time if there is a single tracking pixel changed.
yeah well then how about you fix your website to work like archive.is?


Anonymous 02/06/2017 (Mon) 10:49:58 [Preview] No. 7944 del
bump for kikeflare problem awareness
>>6853
searx is good


Anonymous 02/06/2017 (Mon) 16:52:23 [Preview] No. 7947 del
Did an alternative to archive.is show up after they started pulling down pizzagate related stuff ?


Anonymous 02/07/2017 (Tue) 03:40:08 [Preview] No. 7959 del
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does anyone know the archive.is operators? someone needs to tell them to remove the pointless captcha (I hear this can be done by unblocking the country T1 (tor) in cuckflare settings). they probably don't know it's enabled because they never visited their site through tor (or maybe they're morons and actually believe the captcha accomplishes anything more than blocking legitimate users, i don't know)


Anonymous 02/17/2017 (Fri) 21:52:43 [Preview] No. 8041 del
How difficult would it be to archive clearweb webpages onto an onion website?Zeronet? I2P? Not using archive.is or web.archive.org/save/ from tor rather making a tor-based clearweb archive? That would be ideal for the archival of information to diversify.It is a natural response to the increasing allowence to censor news based on subjective standards of credibility.


Anonymous 02/19/2017 (Sun) 18:48:29 [Preview] No. 8048 del
>>8041
that's not such a bad idea actually, but you'd have to specify which websites you want to archive, because you can't just scrap the whole clearnet and put it in an onion archive


Anonymous 02/28/2017 (Tue) 06:39:40 [Preview] No. 8131 del
>I've been using Archive.is to get a view on websites that require javascript, but now they've enabled cloudflare which requires javascript
CloudFlare has a NoScript Captcha. It works fine in the Tor browser, I suggest installing NoScript and disabling JavaScript for that particular site, and it should be made avaliable to you.


Anonymous 02/28/2017 (Tue) 19:33:17 [Preview] No. 8135 del
With browsers like Firefox and Chrome you can use bookmarks as a button that will go to the archive.org of the current webpage.
Create a bookmark with this as the location:
javascript:location.href='https://web.archive.org/web/‘+document.location.href;


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Using_the_Wayback_Machine#JavaScript_bookmarklet


Anonymous 03/02/2017 (Thu) 22:23:40 [Preview] No. 8143 del
>>8135
In qutebrowser I use a binding like this:
:bind ,w open https://web.archive.org/web/{url}


ONE MORE STEP ATTENTION REQUIRED | CUCKFLARE 05/24/2017 (Wed) 21:03:06 [Preview] No. 8496 del
One more step
Please post in the cuckflare thread to access endchan.xyz/tech
Why do I have to post about CUCKFLARE?
Posting about CUCKFLARE proves you are a human and gives you temporary access to the web property.
What can I do to prevent this in the future?
If you are on a personal connection, like at home, you can run an anti-virus scan on your device to make sure it is not infected with malware.
If you are at an office or shared network, you can ask the network administrator to run a scan across the network looking for misconfigured or infected devices.



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