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/tech/ - Technology Anonymous 01/03/2016 (Sun) 17:52:28 [Preview] No. 125 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Welcome to /tech/, a technology board. This board is for discussion of technology, both software and hardware.

Wiki: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/
IRC: #/tech/, #InfinityNow and #endchan on irc.rizon.net - https://qchat.rizon.net/

NSFW files are only allowed if they are spoilered. Tech support, consumer advice and desktop/ricing threads are all allowed for now.

All rules and policies are open for discussion in this thread.

Related boards:
>>>/cyber/ - Cyberpunk & Science Fiction
>>>/lv/ - Libre Vidya
>>>/markov/ - bot hell
>>>/os/ - Online Security
>>>/t/ - Torrents/trackers
Edited last time by ring on 06/14/2017 (Wed) 23:18:55.
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Anonymous 08/30/2017 (Wed) 12:37:15 [Preview] No. 10938 del
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>you don't realize that you've just swallowed another, equally braindead narrative.

Which one?

>I'll start posting there if half of the userbase leaves, and the other half leaves and commits suicide, so I can be sure they won't come back.

You seem to be extremly narcissic. That's not suprising that you clearly insult me of ape. I guess everyone are apes, and you're the man, isn't it? You're understanding the big scheme, and everyone else are just retards around you?
You're a good modern. Perfectly in your time.

>Ever see that episode of Rick and Morty where the Devil gives Rick a microscope that, if he used it, would have lowered his IQ to idiot-level?

About /news/, /news/ is just a news aggregator, (trying) doing the job of selecting the most interesting news from the massive news flow. You can't do shit without these aggregators. Again, i'm talking about here, not 8ch.

Anonymous 09/01/2017 (Fri) 21:53:16 [Preview] No. 10979 del
>calls me a retard
>doesn't know what is polite sage
<for you

Software as a service (SaaS) is cancer in any form.

Anonymous 09/01/2017 (Fri) 21:56:34 [Preview] No. 10980 del
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Fuck me, I meant service as a software substitute (SaaSS)


Anonymous 09/01/2017 (Fri) 23:26:18 [Preview] No. 10983 del

>calls me a retard

If the shoe fits...

>doesn't know what is polite sage

Whew, nice recovery! I'm familiar with the traditional use of sage stemming from Japanese imageboard culture. I'm also familiar with the concept of trying to rationalize an embarrassing gaffe by lying about your motivation or attributing misunderstanding to the other party.

What a low-stakes thing to come back and lie about several days later, though. You are truly a sad specimen.

Anonymous 09/02/2017 (Sat) 02:20:08 [Preview] No. 10985 del
I didn't lie about anything, you merely talk like a gay nigger spamming faggot that hates /pol/ and brings your bitching into /tech/.

Open Everything Film Festival Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 21:43:17 [Preview] No. 11208 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Very cool:

>The apertus Association, aykit and q/uintessenz are proud to announce that Vienna’s only international libre/open film festival, “Open Everything – Privacy and Security” takes place in the course of the Linuxwochen Wien.
>The focus is on privacy, surveillance and security, as well as topics like DIY, the Maker Movement, Creative Commons, Open Hardware, Free Software, Copyleft and free and open creative/artistic processes and communities.


Anonymous 09/20/2017 (Wed) 04:56:27 [Preview] No. 11212 del
Can I download the movies with english subtitles ?

Anonymous 09/20/2017 (Wed) 09:52:19 [Preview] No. 11214 del
openeverythingfilmfestival.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown. The server might not be sending the appropriate intermediate certificates. An additional root certificate may need to be imported. The certificate expired on 06/12/2017 07:07 AM. The current time is 09/20/2017 09:47 AM.

Anonymous 09/20/2017 (Wed) 10:29:05 [Preview] No. 11215 del
I am interested to see what the blender foundation have later. Last I saw was Big Buck Bunny.

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WWW alternatives Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 19:57:00 [Preview] No. 11206 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
With W3C now folding to DRM and the web already being crushed under the weight of JS I think we need a discussion.

What are some alternatives to the web? I remember GNUNET implements something like websites. Basically I think we should ditch web browsers all together. BBS? Gopher?

Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 20:36:54 [Preview] No. 11207 del
If used with Tor, IPFS seems promissing.
But, if we "restart" the internet, I think we should go to the way of distributed meshnet. In this case, I don't know any project that still alive doing this. My hope is that, one day, someone will ressurect Netsukuku with current best-practices on crypto and formal methods, but I don't think it will happen.

Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 23:34:20 [Preview] No. 11209 del
misunderstands the consequences of the W3C's endorsement of EME, and

misunderstands the difference between the web and the internet

The objections of the EFF and security people and pretty much everyone who isn't a corporate shill to EME are understandable and quite reasonable. Their dislike of EME being implemented in browsers is also quite correct. BTW, EME is *already* implemented in every major browser.

But you people are acting like this is going to be the end of the web or something. Here are some facts that you can take along with your Zyprexa:

1. People hosting websites will not have to use DRM. Endchan, for example, will continue to chug along as always, unless odilitime decided to implement DRM to access some Endchan content.
2. Browsers that will never implement EME (links, lynx, eww) will continue to work as they always have with non-DRMed content on the web.

If you look at e.g. the editors behind the EME recommendation, you'll see who's pushing it:


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Anonymous 09/20/2017 (Wed) 00:32:51 [Preview] No. 11210 del
>Netflix, Microsoft and Youtube
These are not the only problem. Youtube is not just for "normies". There's lots of good content on youtube.
As you said, most people will not give a shit about DRM, so most of the content will still be posted on youtube. If youtube-dl stops working then where we will get videos? Other platforms will probably adopt DRM too, such as Vimeo.

But, again, that's not the major issue I see. People can start to use DRM to lock the whole website. For example, if your adblocker is blocking some piece of javascript, it will automatically block the entire website. This will destroy adblockers and everyone will be forced to see nasty ads. Not too long for google adopt it, then the entire web will not work anymore without javascript. Think about it.

Anonymous 09/20/2017 (Wed) 01:44:16 [Preview] No. 11211 del
>Youtube is not just for "normies".

>If youtube-dl stops working then where we will get videos? Other platforms will probably adopt DRM too, such as Vimeo.
It's unlikely that platforms like Youtube and Vimeo will employ DRM for every video. Uploaders will probably be given the ability to enable or disable it for their accounts or for each of their videos.

VEVO, for example, will probably have it enabled on all of their videos, because they don't want you downloading them. They want you to have to watch them on Youtube to see their ads.

But VEVO is normie shit.

>People can start to use DRM to lock the whole website.
They can do that now. The W3C's recommendation changes nothing in that regard.

>For example, if your adblocker is blocking some piece of javascript, it will automatically block the entire website.
That happens now. Patreon won't load for me so I can see how many betas have been suckered into subsidizing the lifestyle of this month's SJW fail whale. archive.is doesn't work for me because of their Cloudflare settings, which require js. I've run into this dozens of times because I don't run js. Maybe hundreds.

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Anonymous 09/20/2017 (Wed) 09:37:15 [Preview] No. 11213 del
He's a troll, ignore him.

The problem is that the web is being shat on in many different ways. To focus on any single issue makes it appear like a solvable problem and misses the point. It's the implication of all those issues that raises the need to find real alternatives now.

Cucked browser developers.
Bloated browsers.
Pro censorship domain registrars.
Pro censorship hosters.
Web unbrowsable with ads.
Web blocks ad blockers.
Some sites still rely on flash (though not many thanks to Apple)
Sites written almost entirely in javascript.
New coin mining javascript.
Javascript that reveals your identity.
Cookies that reveal your identity.
Huge user monitoring platforms with embedded site elements from facebook and google.

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It Seems China is Shutting Down its Blockchain Economy Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 13:19:41 [Preview] No. 11176 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]

>[...] it might have been the start of something more ambitious: a coordinated campaign to shut down use of cryptocurrency in the Middle Kingdom.
>The full extent of the Chinese crackdown isn't clear yet, in part because key decisions have only been communicated privately to Chinese Bitcoin exchanges.
>But a couple of Bitcoin exchanges have now announced that they are shutting down.
>And leaked documents suggest that the rest will be required to do so before the end of the month.

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Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 14:31:56 [Preview] No. 11201 del
>The problem is the monetary creation power given to [anyone], the "ex nihilo" monetary creation
The only thing that does is prevent hoarding and even more egregious speculation. Do you want even more egregious speculation, (((anon)))?

>The only think that change with a crypto currency is that every transaction is traceable.
What transaction isn't? Are you talking about conning people out of some pocket money, (((anon)))?

Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 16:01:39 [Preview] No. 11202 del
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>What transaction isn't? Are you talking about conning people out of some pocket money, (((anon)))?

You can't have any anonymity if you don't have any way to make anonymous exchanges. You can do anonymous exchange right now, with paper money. Paper money allow "black" market, markets out of any state control. For exemple, you buying something for you friend is anonymous, and is de facto in the "black market". It allows anyone to work without the need of any contract.
It's the most basic need. With every transaction being traceable, you're done. You're just done. If they decide to deny you the right to possess a bank account, then you'll not being able to even buy from the most basic store. The whole economy will be controlled and monitored. But I guess that you trust your government and you bank to not do any arm against you, isn't it ((((((((anon))))))))?
Saying that it profits the criminals is monstrously retarded, since the biggest criminals are the banks, and the companies not paying taxes by using tax heavens. It's not the little faggot drug dealer. Moreover, since it's the state that control the drug traffic, don't count on the fact that they'll track them through bitcoin transaction. Police don't have enough people anyway to do this job. That's why it's actually the banks who try to detect credit card fraud (under ~1000/2000 euros), and not the police.

>The only thing that does is prevent hoarding and even more egregious speculation.
What? You're talking about monetary creation? That's the process that build paper money, that makes it remain on pure debt. The dollars paper money you have in your pocket is a debt upon the central bank. The money who's on your bank account is a debt on the bank. Nothing have any value, and it allows bank to create money out of nowhere. Well, not from nowhere, but from continuous inflation. Bitcoin will not solve anything. I pretty much think that it'll worsten the problem. I highly think that today's crypto will not be the future crypto used in global market (when the world will have only one global market). Maybe the blockchain will be private. Maybe they want a decentralised money to make it detached from any nation (since every nation will disapear, it's pretty logic) in apparence, but totaly controlled by the one setting it up.
The whole economy is immoral. Bitcoin will not, but confirm everything that has been destroyed since the founding of modernity.
You truly must be a redditor level faggot using his little mac to think that bictoin is a good thing. That's the same kind of guy who find it totaly normal to implant an RFID chip in their hand, or soon a neurolace. They're the one finding totaly normal to buy modern car which are connected to the manufacturer, manufacturer that can control the car, lock it, stop it etc...

Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 16:37:54 [Preview] No. 11203 del
Not the same guy, but:
>If they decide to deny you the right to possess a bank account, then you'll not being able to even buy from the most basic store.
You really don't know how bitcoin works. You don't need and "bank account". See TREZOR, for example:

>That's the same kind of guy who find it totaly normal to implant an RFID chip in their hand, or soon a neurolace.
Oh, so you're one of these "mark of the beats" people? I expected more from you...

Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 16:40:00 [Preview] No. 11204 del
<You don't need and "bank account"
> You don't need a "bank account"*
<"mark of the beats"
>"mark of the beast"

Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 16:44:28 [Preview] No. 11205 del
"I" expected more of you. Don't tell me you're the common hn user, not risking to go in any direction that is not approved by the official good thinking institution.
About the RFID, no, I don't think that it's particulary what is reffered to be the mark of the beast. I think that it's nearly nothing, especially when you look at the neurolace, and what are the tech possibilities that would be available in the close future. Honestly, the private corps already know everything about everyone. All i'm saying is that it's a very very dark future that is being releaved as the days advance. And it's certainly technology which is the conductor. It's like always: a trade between yourself, a piece of your soul and your privacy, for more comfort, social acceptance etc..

Moreover, you haven't read my post to the end: I'm saying that the future crypto currency will be far more controlled than what it is now. Every bank are testing their own crypto.
Don't think that banks will diseapear with the founding of a global market based on an unique cryptocurrency.

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Degeneracy Anonymous 06/24/2017 (Sat) 01:17:52 [Preview] No. 8591 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Now even lobste.rs(openbsd-like version of hackernews) fall into the idiocracy of battlestations, the last place I would like to watch this shit:

Where are we going dudes? Fucks sake.
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Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 20:32:34 [Preview] No. 11191 del
There's nowhere to go.

Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 21:38:36 [Preview] No. 11193 del
Don't say that...
8ch.net/tech/ is one/two months /g/. It was bad, but at least there were good topics. Now there are windows faggots everywhere, battlestations, ricing thread etc...

Don't say there is nowhere to go :^(

Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 21:56:50 [Preview] No. 11194 del
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>Don't say there is nowhere to go :^(
There is one place left to go.

Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 22:00:03 [Preview] No. 11195 del
There is nowhere to go.
End/tech/ is too slow.
Lainchan only has faggots.
8ch/tech/ [no words to describe such thing].

Maybe the intelligence of users is inversaly-proportional to it's collaboration on a discussion forum.
If it's true, then intelligence equals internalization. Then, the perception we have about the world being too dumb is just an illusion.
Or, we all suffer from Dunning-Kruger effect.

Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 05:04:39 [Preview] No. 11199 del
In case any of you faggots find something don't forget to post it here so the others don't kill themselves.

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Amazon destroyed Seattle Anonymous 09/15/2017 (Fri) 05:17:04 [Preview] No. 11095 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
I like this editorial about how Amazon has destroyed the culture of Seatle. It's a good warning: large companies destroy the culture of interesting cities and make everything generic, corporate, and dull. I wouldn't want Google's HQ in my city either.
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Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 12:05:18 [Preview] No. 11170 del

> I shouldn't care what others want, unless they pay me for it

Then just kill your mom, who cares what she wants so be she doesn't pay you. You're a psycho.

Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 12:10:21 [Preview] No. 11171 del
Why are you angry? I'm just pointing out how most people operate. I guarantee you nobody out there gives a shit what my likes and needs are, unless I pay them to, or unless they're family or close friends.
And speaking of unstable, you're the one saying to kill people, LOL.

Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 12:37:12 [Preview] No. 11172 del
He's a troll or really ignorant. Ignore him.

Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 23:48:42 [Preview] No. 11197 del
Contrary to what Ayn Rand's cult believes, econonomics and world society cannot be reduced to transactions for selfish gain. Altruism is just as much a part of society and is a drive that runs against our own interests. Charities can survive because of that.

Anonymous 09/19/2017 (Tue) 01:11:07 [Preview] No. 11198 del
Sure it can. I donate to charities because it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling and justifies my desire to murder homeless people.

Anonymous 09/14/2017 (Thu) 13:48:06 [Preview] No. 11080 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
What about dis? Goodbye to ads.

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Anonymous 09/17/2017 (Sun) 15:34:30 [Preview] No. 11156 del
>visit my favorite image-board
>CPU usage reaches 100%
>laptop starts getting warm
>don't pay for heating during the winter

Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 13:19:18 [Preview] No. 11175 del
So why don't you, like fucking everyone since the night of times, purpose a paid subscription?
You know what internet is like? A free to play. First to make it extremly accessible, while taking money from the customer who don't even know they's one. It's a shit economical system, based on ignorance.
People still think that google, facebook is free. Just ask anyone how they win billions and are at the top of tech industry, most people will not even be able to answer (or something vague like "ads?").

We need to stop with this. "If it's free, then you're the product."
All I see is that a lot of people actually started their blog for fun, to share with people, then they discovered that they could make a shit tone of money on it, so greed came on, and they try to only live on that. That's not how reality works. You can't live only on your shit little blog, or on a little youtube video. Just look at how newspaper use to work in the past. It's the same thing. It's not because I share some good inside with peoples that I'm gonna create an entire newpaper on this idea, and only live on that.
I need something serious. A team of writers, a shit tone of work, talent. Not just random internet luck of fame.

That's the root of the problem. Too easy for random people to get too much money. Just look who're at the top of youtube, or other medias. That's ridiculous. It's certainly, certainly not a meritocracy. Even the top youtuber agree with that, that they're were they are with only luck, and that people with less success have more talent than them.
Thanks retarded internet economical model.

Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 13:47:20 [Preview] No. 11179 del
>Thanks retarded internet economical model
I don't think it's an internet issue, I think it's an human issues. Nikola Tesla, Kurt Godel and many others, died poor and fucked, for example, before the internet existed. The people that really constructed computing, like Konrad Zuze, never appear on mainstream, just the fancy Steve Jobs that did nothing of good.
It's how our primitive thinking always end up with the same patterns. People don't like to extend their thoughts, therefore, shit content will be produced to keep the circus running.
People like to think how things "might look like" and not how it really is, therefore they numb themselves with myths.

Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 15:44:13 [Preview] No. 11182 del
>So why don't you, like fucking everyone since the night of times, purpose a paid subscription?
Because people are lazy and selfish, and they won't bother getting out their credit card to pay for anything but porn.

Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 17:13:32 [Preview] No. 11186 del

Internet is a human construct, so it's pretty normal that it was designed with ideology in mind. That's why it's the support of the worste surveillance technology ever. That's why it's so hard to access privacy, because it was made to be public in the first place.

CCleanup: A Vast Number of Machines at Risk Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 12:59:11 [Preview] No. 11173 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
The article points as Periform/Avast had no idea about this malware... I don't think so. I don't think it's impossivel that this is an malware sponsored by agencies, since CCleaner is used on so many normie computers today:


Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 13:24:55 [Preview] No. 11177 del
Who's agencies?
Microsoft certainly already share everything with the agencies.
Windows 10 is the biggest malware ever.

All I see is that they maybe tried to hide their own backdoor, or maybe it's a CCleaner dev who tried to push his own malware in the back of his team.

GNU OS Anonymous 09/14/2017 (Thu) 15:13:36 [Preview] No. 11081 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Anyone else excited about the coming full realisation of the GNU OS? Soon GuixSD will ship with Hurd and the original GNU vision will be a usable system.

After that all they need is all the software using GNU licenses and RMS can die fulfilled. If they then rewrite everything in scheme RMS will become a saint in heaven.
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Anonymous 09/17/2017 (Sun) 19:51:58 [Preview] No. 11160 del
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GNU is a complete meme. Some software is meant to be proprietary. Without it, we loose our jobs.

Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 13:08:10 [Preview] No. 11174 del
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It's a problem of economical model, and government that push for free market, but without doing its job to eliminate monopolies.
You should actually get back in time, and understand that everything was sold with the "source code". You washer was sold with the manual describing everything about it, every pieces used with reference to allow you to repare you machine.
Today, everything is made breakable, and the most complicated to not allow you to do any repair, any modification.
Even though software is a special case, because you NEED the source code if you want any security, but you don't want to easely give out your source code to every one, it pretty much followed the same path. Basically, anything closed source is backdoored from my point of view. I'm not even talking about the official stuff, like microsoft who gently tell you that it tapes everything. Or apple that trace everyone's move.

A mechanical system can't be close source, because you still can "easely" reverse engineer the process by simply opening your car, if you know what you're doing.

So no, it's not that black and white. If you have a bullshit job, it's the problem of an economical model based only on an all mighty market, and not a market serving the actual people.
Free market without regulation create this kind of none sense, because the goal of any companies if not to serve any general interest, but egoist profit.

You're not the only one who have a partly immoral job, it's pretty much general. So please, don't say that we need close source because you need a job. That's in no where a justification. A lot of industries had to close their door, letting the workers without any job because of technological progress.

Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 16:25:51 [Preview] No. 11183 del
Hahaha, I see our atheism debate was deleted.

Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 16:40:42 [Preview] No. 11184 del
There was no atheism debate. There was an altruism discussion (calling it a debate is too generous and doesn't accurately reflect your inability to construct logical (or even coherent) statements) which you repeatedly tried (and failed) to turn into a discussion about atheism.

Anonymous 09/18/2017 (Mon) 21:02:24 [Preview] No. 11192 del
It was moving very far outside the scope of /tech/.
I did archive.is it before deleting it.

Must-watch /tech/ movies? Anonymous 09/15/2017 (Fri) 14:58:46 [Preview] No. 11118 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Hey, thought about film recommendation with /tech/ related content. These are mine favorites. I've organized it by order that I thought was better to watch if you haven't yet. If you want to suggest others, just post on this thread.

01 - Gattaca (1997)
02 - Akira (1988)
03 - The Conversation (1974)
04 - Network (1976)
05 - Blade Runner (1982)
06 - The Lives of Others (2006)
07 - 2001: Space Odyssey (1968)
08 - Interstellar (2014)
09 - Wall-e (2008)
10 - Minority Report (2002)
11 - Nineteen Eighty-Four (1984)
12 - Brazil (1985)
13 - THX 1138 (1971)
14 - Ghost in the Shell (1995)
15 - Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence (2004)

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Anonymous 09/17/2017 (Sun) 09:59:18 [Preview] No. 11154 del
>>11148 (me)
Your way of looking into film is realistic and I'm personally against that. The film is not meant to be absolutely realistic (although it has to have a suspension of disbelief if you want people to understand it). Watching a film is just like watching yourself in the mirror, it's a projection and an interpretation.
That said, I'm it was technically correct and, yes, I too find the "love as a dimension" idea a bit too new age, but from my perspective, it is a very good movie. Good screenwriting, good aesthetic, good soundtrack.

Anonymous 09/17/2017 (Sun) 19:04:11 [Preview] No. 11157 del
- eXistenZ (1999)
- Patlabor 2: The Movie (1993)

Anonymous 09/17/2017 (Sun) 19:07:51 [Preview] No. 11159 del
>eXistenZ (1999)

Anonymous 09/17/2017 (Sun) 22:13:31 [Preview] No. 11161 del
Avalon (2001). It's a very powerful movie. Like Matrix, it questions the perceived reality created by human mind. But, unlike Matrix, it does not creates this new "reality". The author let's you imagine what it would be to live in a world more real than that we live now.
I personally don't think that's the case, but it's a good movie.
Like other film such as Truman Show, Inception and Matrix, this one will give you a shift about the way you think.

Anonymous 09/17/2017 (Sun) 22:21:45 [Preview] No. 11162 del
>the leaders should also have no right to privacy.
>Bullshit. The point is not if the leaders of these corporations have privacy or not, the point is that everyone lost the privacy.
>For me, this movie is a clear communist message.

The book ended with the main character too far gone in drinking the company kool-aid and she turned on the black guy, betrayed him, and supported censorship and ushering in a dystopia without resisting her leaders at the company. I see the film as a more morally grey ending. Her actions resulted in a kind of communist mob rule rather than a dictatorship, and after the film ends there's still a possibility people like her parents will rebel once they see the bullshit in the e-mails of her superiors. No such possibility exists in the book, because the monsters have already won.