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This Board Is Under New Ownership, Seeking ACTIVE Volunteers and Daily Posters Reader 05/15/2017 (Mon) 20:40:58 [Preview] No. 833 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Hi, I am here to inject new life into this board


Seeking active posters for daily current events and trending news stories from almost any source.
Let's begin by posting new topics daily and we will work from there. Considering writing custom CSS or if any CSS skilled individuals have suggestions I'm more than open to them. I'd like to be able to easily manage this board and simply post and assist the vols.

From other thread

"I am the Board Owner of /news/

Please respond here or email me rp@8chan.co and I will make you a board volunteer or give you ownership if you're posting daily. I've been neglecting the board due to intense pursuit of my Masters in class as well as work. Let's make you (whoever is posting) a volunteer with potential for Ownership. I love endchan.xyz and it deserves a full time operator for /news/."
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Reader 09/19/2017 (Tue) 11:48:04 Id: be99fe [Preview] No. 1749 del
How about you go fuck off somewhere else if you don't like reading the news?

Reader 09/19/2017 (Tue) 12:45:17 Id: bd2dba [Preview] No. 1751 del

Reader 09/20/2017 (Wed) 07:32:42 Id: 0d1a84 [Preview] No. 1765 del
Go back to your television set and doze off some more in front of CNN or a 'reality tv' show. This place is NOT for comatosed normfags.

Reader 09/20/2017 (Wed) 22:18:52 Id: d735a9 [Preview] No. 1790 del
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Stay tuned, here. There are going to be some more bombshell leaks soon, involving the lying mainstream media and their hired propagandists.


Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 23:05:44 Id: 9cea24 [Preview] No. 1856 del
This is the best news board I have seen in a long long time. Keep up the good work anons.

Notice To Daily Posters Reader 08/25/2017 (Fri) 23:15:03 Id: 9cb9d2 [Preview] No. 1489 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]

Hello /news/
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Reader Board volunteer 09/16/2017 (Sat) 23:32:29 Id: 02c805 [Preview] No. 1703 del
I enabled post deletion, and disabled location flags. Enjoy.

Reader 09/21/2017 (Thu) 13:38:06 Id: 02c805 [Preview] No. 1805 del
I am considering disabling post ids as I figure they are not useful towards the topic.

Reader 09/21/2017 (Thu) 13:41:01 Id: 56558e [Preview] No. 1806 del
Post IDs are good as a moderator if you have to prevent spam attacks on a board, but since there is no spam here (at least not yet...) then it might not be such a bad idea.

Reader Board owner 09/23/2017 (Sat) 04:38:04 Id: 743354 [Preview] No. 1825 del
You guys are doing a great job.
Id like to handover ownership soon.
Keep it up.

Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 16:06:20 Id: 9457ff [Preview] No. 1840 del
Be careful of who you give board ownership to, I found that to be a major problem with 8chan.

A Reminder That EndChan Relies On Donations To Support Itself Reader 06/03/2017 (Sat) 10:21:03 Id: 4b2ab8 [Preview] No. 917 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]

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Reader 06/06/2017 (Tue) 21:03:36 Id: 0e0f39 [Preview] No. 930 del
Endchan always needs donations. Even a couple of dollars helps.

Reader 06/25/2017 (Sun) 19:33:26 Id: 73e834 [Preview] No. 1077 del
For what purpose? This imageboard would be better left off if it doesn't exist anymore at all, nobody post on endchan.

Reader 07/10/2017 (Mon) 22:32:23 Id: e5eb60 [Preview] No. 1186 del
Kill yourself faggot

Reader 07/27/2017 (Thu) 09:17:44 Id: e5eb60 [Preview] No. 1248 del
This guy knows what's up

Reader 08/19/2017 (Sat) 13:25:44 Id: 629660 [Preview] No. 1448 del
This place is better than 8chan is. I used to go to 8chan and post news until they blocked me from posting. Glad I found this place.

IT'S OFFICIAL: Democrat Officials Rigged Philly Elections, Allowing Illegal Immigrants To Vote & Ballot Stuffing Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 21:12:31 Id: 08846d [Preview] No. 1855 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
The largest urban centers throughout the country are where Democrats steal elections. They can’t do it by numbers of legal voters alone, though. No, they literally stuff the results with illegal votes time and time again.

Pennsylvania is a historic swing state that offers up 20 electoral votes in each presidential election. Democrat candidates had been winning it easily since Bill Clinton took it from George H.W. Bush in 1992.

Then came Donald Trump in 2016 and his shocking win in Pennsylvania – DESPITE the voter fraud machine the Democrats had long had in place.

To those who doubt that voter fraud, you’re not paying attention. It’s real as proven by the words of election officials themselves as detailed in this report:

Glitch let ineligible immigrants vote in Philly elections, officials say

These officials are finally admitting to such “glitches” because for the first time there are actually federal investigations into widespread voter fraud being initiated by the Trump administration.

Remember the contested vote count in Michigan when Democrats cried foul that Trump shocked the political class by winning that state over Hillary Clinton? A recount was initiated in the urban center of Detroit but then suddenly and seemingly inexplicably that count was halted – by Democrats. Why? Because it was exposing massive voter fraud.

Donald Trump not only defeated Hillary Clinton and the long-established Democrat voting fraud machine, he likely did so by millions more votes than were actually counted. The above headline out of Philadelphia is proof of that. It also goes a long way toward explaining why the Establishment despises Trump so much. By becoming POTUS Donald Trump defeated powers unaccustomed to losing.

They would see him punished for that – and all those who supported him.

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Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 23:09:53 Id: 6f8a77 [Preview] No. 1857 del
>They can’t do it by numbers of legal voters alone, though. No, they literally stuff the results with illegal votes time and time again.

and they still couldn't win >XD

Fetal Deaths Rose 58% After Flint Michigan Switched to Lead-poisoned Water Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 21:00:41 Id: 8e0985 [Preview] No. 1854 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
RELATED: https://archive.fo/cRPVU

Fetal deaths rose and fertility rates dropped after Flint, Michigan switched to lead-poisoned water.

That is according to a new working paper by economists Daniel Grossman of West Virginia University and David Slusky of Kansas University.

The authors found that fetal deaths — pregnancies that lasted at least 20 weeks but did not result in a birth — increased by 58% and fertility rates fell by 12% in Flint after April 2014 compared to rates in other economically-similar Michigan cities that didn't switch their water sources.

They estimate 198 to 276 more children would have been born among babies conceived from November 2013 to March 2015 if Flint did not switch water sources.

"Failure to provide safe drinking water has large health implications," Grossman and Slusky wrote in the conclusion.

Comparing Flint to other economically similar cities in Michigan provided a "natural control group," they said. And since it wasn't known that the new water supply had higher lead content, they argue the decrease in the general fertility rate was more likely to be reflection of fetal deaths and miscarriages than a change in sexual behavior.

The authors also listed several limitations their study had. Since lead builds up in the body over time, their focus on neonatal health might underestimate lead's overall affects on human health and development. Further, other contaminants in the water could have also affected the results.

"Despite these limitations, the culling of births in Flint provides robust evidence of the effect of lead on the health of not just infants, but on the health of potential newborns in utero."

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Russian Military Ready To Show Proof US Hurricanes Were Geo-engineered In Retaliation For Withdrawing From UN Climate Panel Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 19:56:50 Id: c59fed [Preview] No. 1853 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
RELATED: http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/links-to-geoengineering-patents/

Russian President Vladimir Putin has named the date he plans to release proof that the US government engineered the recent spate of hurricanes that devastated large parts of the U.S.

Like a boxer confident in his own strength, Putin has been observing footage taken from the Russian Elektro-L No.1 weather satellite – and has been biding his time, waiting for the right moment to go public with his findings.

According to Kremlin insiders, this Christmas Putin will release the satellite footage that conclusively proves Hurricane Irma and Harvey, as well as other extreme weather observed around the United States recently, was engineered by people within the U.S. intelligence agencies.

“The destruction caused by those storms was orchestrated by the Deep State who, like on 9/11, wanted to inflict suffering and pain on the American people.”

The US government’s true nature will be exposed on the world’s staged, undermining the credibility of the nation.

Putin is the only world leader willing to take on the dark forces of the New World Order and attempt to defeat them.

Was HAARP Responsible For The Recent Hurricanes?

Putin’s claims that the hurricanes were man-made may sound far fetched, but geoengineering is a well established practise.

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Reader 09/24/2017 (Sun) 04:52:44 [Preview] No. 1858 del
Legit fiction in part of Sean Adl-Tabatabai (((again))), and OP for spreading shit. Anyone with a basic course of geology 101 would know this.

Pfizer Vice President Blows Whistle On Gardasil: "The Vaccine Is Deadly" Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 16:48:56 Id: 8e7937 [Preview] No. 1845 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
RELATED: >>>/news/1807

Former vice President of Pfizer, Dr. Peter Rost, has blown the whistle on the dangers of the Gardasil vaccine – and claims that Big Pharma aims to keep people unhealthy.

Below is a clip taken from the “One More Girl” documentary – a film featuring Dr. Rost in which he reveals how vaccines and Big Pharma drugs are designed to keep people in a state of dis-ease.

Healingoracle.ch reports: He is the author of “The Whistleblower, Confessions of a Healthcare Hitman.” Considering his work experience, it would be an understatement to say that he is an insider expert on big pharma marketing.

Below are a couple of quotes from both a former and a current editor-in-chief of the two largest, and what are considered to be the most credible, medical journals in the world. It’s only fitting to include them into the article as they are directly related to what Dr. Rost hints at in the video.

“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of the New England Journal of Medicine.” – Dr. Marcia Angell, a physician and longtime editor-in-chief of the New England Medical Journal (NEMJ) (source)


“The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness.” – Dr. Richard Horton, the current editor-in-chief of the Lancet – considered to be one of the most well respected peer-reviewed medical journals in the world. (source)


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Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 16:55:26 Id: 8e7937 [Preview] No. 1846 del
>and claims that Big Pharma aims to keep people unhealthy

Of-course Big Pharma wants people unhealthy. How would they make money if people were to take care of themselves, have a decent diet, exercise and stay healthy? They need people to be sick so they can provide convenient "cures" for them.

Dr. Ted Broer, who has a PhD in biochemistry and nutrition, has often talked about this issue in depth. Big Pharma rakes in billions a year off of cancer treatments alone... why in the world would Big Pharma want a cure for cancer!?

Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 16:59:02 Id: 8e7937 [Preview] No. 1847 del
Oh and I might add there really is a "cure" for cancer: proper diet, exercise and making sure you avoid unhealthy behavior. If everyone did this the cancer rates would plummet and Big Pharma would have executives jumping out of their office windows.

Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 19:04:21 Id: 229d09 [Preview] No. 1852 del
Fuck their vaccines, I won't take them. I'm off all the meds too and I feel great without them. Proper diet and getting enough sleep works wonders. Most medical conditions are caused by lack of exercise and really poor diet (which unfortunately most people eat fast food / junk food ie shit). Take care of your body it will take care of you. You are what you eat. All true.

New York Times: How to Survive the Apocalypse Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 15:59:03 Id: d3439a [Preview] No. 1834 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
How to Survive the Apocalypse


President Trump threatens to “totally destroy North Korea.” Another hurricane lashes out. A second monster earthquake jolts Mexico. Terrorists strike in London. And that’s just this past week or so.

Yes, the world is clearly coming to an end. But is there anything you can do to prepare?

That is not a philosophical question, or a theological one. And if it is a question that seems to beg any explication, you may stop reading now.

But if you are among the swelling class of weekend paranoiacs of affluent means who are starting to mull fantasies of urban escape following the endless headlines about disasters, both natural and manufactured, you may be starting to see a different image in your mind when think “survivalist.” You may no longer see the wild-eyed cave dweller in camouflage fatigues, hoarding canned goods. You may even see one in the mirror.

In a world where the bombproof bunker has replaced the Tesla as the hot status symbol for young Silicon Valley plutocrats, everyone, it seems, is a “prepper,” even if the “prep” in question just means he is stashing a well-stocked “bug-out bag” alongside his Louis Vuitton luggage in a Range Rover pointed toward Litchfield County, Conn. Here is a checklist for the neo-survivalist preparing for the apocalypse.

1. Satchels for Survival

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Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 16:00:14 Id: d3439a [Preview] No. 1836 del
5. The Other Bug-Out Bag

In the event of apocalypse, bring condoms. This may sound like a slogan from a fraternity party T-shirt, but survivalists absolutely adore condoms. Featherweight, ultracompact and durable, condoms (nonlubricated, please) can be used as a makeshift canteen to store water, a fire starter or as elastic bands for an improvised slingshot to hunt small game, according to Creek Stewart, a survival instructor and television host.

When inflated, they can also be used as fishing bobbers or signaling devices for semaphore, according to SensiblePrepper. Oh, and they’re also great for the obvious use, too.

6. Armed to the Teeth

[The sheeple of New York city are restricted from buying firearms.]

Let's cut to the chase, alternatives: brass knuckles, nunchucks, ninja stars, switchblade knives, slingshots, mace, bare spray, tasers, mortars, bats, clubs, knives, hammers, hatchets, nail guns, etc.

And never allow fascists, communists or any other despot scum disarm you when SHTF. Fight to survive, simple as that.

7. Paddling to Safety

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Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 16:00:45 Id: d3439a [Preview] No. 1837 del
8. Deliverance From Above

Since the Sept. 11 attacks, many cubicle dwellers have been haunted by fears of being stuck in a skyscraper when disaster strikes. In fact, tragic images from the World Trade Center inspired a micro-industry of high-rise-escape options. There are now escape chutes (basically, giant collapsible fabric tubes for shinnying down) and small parachutes.

The SOS Parachute (about $2,400) is compact enough to store in a cubicle, opens in about two seconds and is designed to work for the 11th floor and higher. Granted, the parachute is exactly not 82nd Airborne-grade, and a 200-pound man might find the landing a little rough. “You may twist an ankle,” said Nicolas Havett, a company executive. But in a situation serious enough to warrant a parachute, that’s a deal that many would take.

9. Who Are You Calling “Rocket Man”?

They were a science-fiction fantasy in the Bond movie “Thunderball,” a space-age gag in “Gilligan’s Island.” But a half-century later, jet packs actually exist. A California company called JetPack Aviation unveiled a functioning turbojet version two years ago, capable of staying aloft for 10 minutes, traveling at speeds up to 100 miles per hour. Current models are available only to the military, but David Mayman, the company’s founder, said he plans to introduce a commercial version within 18 months.

Hard-core doomers need not drain their airplane-liquor-bottle stash to envision the potential: Imagine New York after, say, an electromagnetic pulse attack that wipes out the power grid (like the kind North Korea recently threatened). The bridges and streets resemble a scene from the old John Carpenter movie “Escape From New York,” but the privileged few can soar across the Hudson to safety (or at least New Jersey). “From the time you push the button, you could be in the air in less than 30 seconds,” Mr. Mayman said.

Sure, there is the cost — about $250,000, which the company is hoping to bring down “to the price of a luxury car.” For now, just think of it as the survivalists’ Maybach.

10. No Place Like Dome

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Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 16:01:41 Id: d3439a [Preview] No. 1838 del
11. Pets or Meat

In the event of a breakdown of the food supply that leaves the shelves of Fairway bare and Le Coucou a ghost town on a Saturday night, you will still have to eat. Often.

That is why many survivalists are placing their hopes of sustenance in rabbit, a high-protein, low-fat meat that is also being embraced as “the new chicken” by sustainable food types including Michael Pollan. “Raising meat rabbits is one of the most space-efficient means of growing livestock for meat,” according to the site Survivalist 101.

By livestock standards, rabbits are relatively clean and quiet, too. They can survive on table-scrap vegetables or even grass, and as a bonus, yield valuable fur for improvised winter clothing. And boy do they breed. A doe can produce up to 50 kits a year, yielding 250 pounds of meat, according to researchers at the Penn State Extension.

12. Beyond Medieval Times

To master archery and broadsword combat; to learn to manufacture fabric, bread, ceramic cookware and wood furniture by hand; to perfect the preindustrial arts of iron craft and tanning: Yes, there are worse things to carry into a post-apocalyptic world than a membership card to the Society for Creative Anachronism.

In normal times, this international historical-re-enactment organization seems like little more than a harmless bunch of Renaissance Faire types playing dress up on weekends and celebrating the arts, skills and costumes of pre-17th-century Europe.

But should Armageddon arrive — say, in the form of a limited nuclear exchange, global pandemic or cyber mega-attack — these hobbies could mean your survival. In other words, chivalry may not be dead after all.

Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 16:03:22 Id: d3439a [Preview] No. 1839 del
13. The Final Frontier

There is bugging out, and then there is really bugging out. In a scorched-earth scenario where even a jet pack is not enough to escape harm’s way, preppers with deep pockets and a taste for Arthur C. Clarke might consider the ultimate escape: launching their DNA into space.

Celestis, a company specializing in “memorial spaceflights” (sending cremated remains into space), recently introduced “genetic spaceflight.” For $12,500, for example, the cosmologically minded can send their DNA (a mouth swab or hair sample) into space on a “true mission of exploration,” aboard a spacecraft on a “permanent celestial journey well beyond the moon.”

Who knows — some ultra-intelligent alien being may discover it in the future, and use your genetic code to reanimate a race of humans on a distant planet. Let’s just hope those humans don’t choose to blow themselves up.

More tips here: https://8ch.net/truthexpo/res/3.html

Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 18:57:28 Id: 18eacf [Preview] No. 1851 del
I'm glad prepping is going mainstream these days. It will help the local economy, it will also help individuals when a crisis occurs and it will overall make the nation more self-reliant and sustainable (tougher and ready when SHTF).

I got enough supplies to live two years in my own home without having to go to a store if need be. Plus all the DIY household fortification makes my house a hell of a lot tougher to break into without confrontation awaiting the intruder(s).

Oooops... "We Were Wrong": Climate Change Hoax Implodes As IPCC Climate Models Found To Be Totally Wrong Reader 09/20/2017 (Wed) 10:41:31 Id: 4f0715 [Preview] No. 1777 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
The catastrophic impacts of man-made climate change have been exaggerated, according to top global warming scientists who have admitted they produced biased studies based on junk science to please their government paymasters.


These studies were then used by mainstream media to control the narrative about global warming and convince the public that billions of dollars in extra tax revenues must be procured in order to stave off Armageddon.


A stunning new science paper authored by climate change alarmists and published in the science journal Nature Geoscience has just broken the back of the climate change hoax. The paper, authored by Myles R. Allen, Richard J. Millar and others, reveals that global warming climate models are flat wrong, having been deceptively biased toward “worst case” warming predictions that now turn out to be paranoid scare mongering.

The paper, entitled, “Emission budgets and pathways consistent with limiting warming to 1.5 °C,” concludes that the global warming long feared and hyped by everyone from Al Gore to CNN talking heads was based on faulty software models that don’t stand up to actual measured temperatures in the real world. In technical jargon, the paper explains, “We show that limiting cumulative post-2015 CO2 emissions to about 200 GtC would limit post-2015 warming to less than 0.6 °C in 66% of Earth system model members.”


In effect, the current global warming software models used by the IPCC and cited by the media wildly over-estimate the warming effects of CO2 emissions. How much do they over-estimate warming? By about 50%. Where the software models predicted a 1.3 C rise in average global temperatures, only a rise of about 0.9 C has actually been recorded (and many data points in that average have, of course, been fabricated by climate change scientists to push a political narrative). In other words, carbon dioxide emissions don’t produce the warming effects that have been blindly claimed by climate change alarmists.

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Reader 09/20/2017 (Wed) 17:27:57 Id: 01874c [Preview] No. 1787 del
You can call whatever you don't like "fake", complain all you want but you won't stop the truth buddy.

Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 15:50:12 Id: 61a107 [Preview] No. 1832 del

You mean the fag that got autistic overhow water samples were collected despite being well within margin of error? The same megalomaniac faggot who said that "computer glitches" are responsible for reports after he was in charge? Mind you for the latter accusation he based it all on gossip. You're telling me I should trust his word?

How about instead of that I read the peer reviews and compare them to the procedures said reviews criticize? Or is that so hard you'd rather have bloggers and sensationalist yellow media do the thinking for you?

>hurricane data

So hurricane data being fudged means all the other data is? Great logic buddy. Good grief man, do me a favor, don't just BLINDLY swallow ANY MEDIA's lies. Please stop.

Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 16:37:58 Id: d2cc86 [Preview] No. 1844 del
You're telling me I should trust scientists who faked data, got caught via Wikileaks ("climategate") - TWICE - confirming their data models were manipulated. Later after blowing off the issue, the same scientists who continued to fake data as whistleblowers come out, a Congressional investigation is launched, then another scientific study is published re-confirming rigged data - in which the same scientists had to admit "we were wrong" to the newspapers?

I should trust them? The same scientists that get huge paychecks from the government to come up with an excuse to push a Trillion dollar carbon TAX agenda? I think not buddy.

Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 17:42:57 Id: 940c7f [Preview] No. 1849 del
>climate gate

The emails which have been debunked several times already? The same emails that discuss why data needs to go through means, averages, and standard deviations? The same emails normalfaggots who don't know anything about math, data collecting, or science took at face value?

>Congressional investigation is launched, then another scientific study is published re-confirming rigged data

[citation needed]

Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 18:51:40 Id: 8a45e6 [Preview] No. 1850 del
The "citation needed" was in this current report.

Go ahead, don't believe it, I really don't care. I'm not paying for a carbon tax over a scam and that's just the way I see it.

Go Figure: Apple Slows Down Old iPhones To Boost Sales Of New Models Reader 09/23/2017 (Sat) 17:11:40 Id: 6dc626 [Preview] No. 1848 [Reply] [Last 50 Posts]
Just buy a cheap Jitterbug of Burner Phone sheeple! You'll end up saving money!

A Harvard University study has discovered that Apple deliberately slow down old iPhones weeks before a new iPhone is launched.

According to the study, Google searches for “iPhone slow” spiked multiple times just ahead of the release of a new model.

Anongroup.org reports:

The study was performed by student Laura Trucco. The study also compared the results to “Samsung Galaxy slow,” and found that the same spike in searches did not occur before the release of a new Samsung phone.

This isn’t the first time the theory has been put forth. Surprisingly a New York Times writer suggested Apple might configure its new operating systems to only really work properly on new devices.

Writer Catherine Rampell said:

When major innovations remain out of reach, and degrading durability threatens to tick off loyal customers, companies like Apple can still take a cue from the fashion industry.

The public has to get wise to the way corporations generally operate. They hire efficiency experts and people who can maximize the profit made from any product they produce. Not every corporation is the same, but the inherent incentive must be understood, or people will continuously be played by the corporations.

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