But shitposting aside, why is Nier or Nier Automata on there? Don't misunderstand me, those are excellent ARPGs, but that's the thing, they're ARPGs. They're not traditional turnbased RPGs, nor do they have the standard emphasis on stats like other non turnbased RPGs. You can literally pass Nier 1 and not have to grind for enemies once if you like. Granted, there's a few bullshit bosses who will one shot you, but their patterns are so predictable if you can stomach 20 minutes of your time it's possible.
Plus Nier 1's gameplay is awful, let me explain; The controls are excellent in my honest opinion, having the top bumper buttons be dedicated to magic attacks, and the triggers for blocking or dodging is excellent. But what makes the gameplay awful is the shitty AI and shitty weapons' balancing. First let's start with the AI, the AI can sometimes get stuck in corridors or objects and can be kited so easily one by one due to this. It also doesn't help that their movement set is too predictable.
The weapon's balancing, oh boy, the weapons are so fucking broken thanks to the magic words system. Hell even without magic words you can still get easy upgrades via doing missions, farming, or selling junk, which you will collect in abundance, throughout the game. To be fair though it's a neat detail that the junk foreshadows that the Shades you're killing are "similar" to "normal" human infants and adults.
If I remember right my favorite weapons due to how broken they were are the Lily Poison Dagger, the ABSOLUTELY Broken Pheonix Spear, and that giant Grey Sword seen in promo materials.
The boss fights in all honesty are the most memorable parts of the game, gameplay wise. They're just so layered with different gameplay styles and content. Plus Nier 1 was the second fully 3d game to let me see bullet hell style gameplay in bosses, with the first being Mega Man Legends 2. The bullet hell segments become piss poor easy once you find out you can pop the bullets with normal weapon attacks however. But it's still fun and challenging to try to thread the needle, without being a cheap ass faggot.
Maybe I'm being autistic, but Demons' Souls, Dark Souls Series, the King's Field series and Shadow Tower are more RPG material than the Nier games. Additionally I would like to point out that to me, grinding is NOT a good mechanic. In all sincerity, to my eyes it's cancer made to artificially elongate games . However I think a traditional RPG game pays attention to statistics and doesn't let you get away with some of the shit you can in Nier 1 without getting appropriate power ups, buffs or gear first.