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question Bernd 08/28/2017 (Mon) 12:07:16 [Preview] No. 9768
what do you think about imageboarding bernd?
are you tired of it?


Bernd 08/28/2017 (Mon) 12:39:05 [Preview] No. 9770 del
>>9768
>are you tired of it?
yes


Bernd 08/28/2017 (Mon) 15:11:52 [Preview] No. 9773 del
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>>9768
No, I'm still having fun with it.


Bernd 08/28/2017 (Mon) 17:26:45 [Preview] No. 9775 del
>>9768
We will found out during the upcoming fall and winter. Right now? No, but more popular chans are boring as shit.


Bernd 08/28/2017 (Mon) 17:56:33 [Preview] No. 9776 del
>>9768
It's all right. Mostly better than any other part of the internets since it's centralization and commerciaization killed what was valuable on the most part.
Sometimes here it feels a bit daunting - not overwhelmingly - for me as the lack of posters really made an air of emptiness for the board in the past month or two. A dozen regular posters would give the illusion of bustling activity now. The last few days was ok tho.
How about you, OP?

>>9775
>We will found out during the upcoming fall and winter.
How come?
>more popular chans are boring as shit.
Most people just cannot post anything beside repetitive meming. Empty and boring people.


Bernd 08/28/2017 (Mon) 18:08:22 [Preview] No. 9779 del
>>9775
Someone give that gurl a towel
>>9768
Imageboards were and still are great alternative to mainstream internet.


Bernd 08/28/2017 (Mon) 18:29:30 [Preview] No. 9783 del
>How about you, OP?

i feel like foreigner pretty much everywhere in internet


Bernd 08/28/2017 (Mon) 18:36:47 [Preview] No. 9785 del
>>9783
You could be our Austria. You have the colors, the only thing you have to do is säging everything.


Bernd 08/28/2017 (Mon) 18:37:38 [Preview] No. 9786 del
>>9783
Also: is that tiring? As this was the original question.


Bernd 08/28/2017 (Mon) 18:50:06 [Preview] No. 9788 del
>>9783
in japan internet too? or are you using proxy?


Bernd 08/28/2017 (Mon) 18:51:52 [Preview] No. 9789 del
>>9788
proxy

>>9786
i don't know


Bernd 08/28/2017 (Mon) 19:17:09 [Preview] No. 9790 del
>>9789
Is that the reason you post more infrequently nowadays?


Bernd 08/28/2017 (Mon) 19:19:08 [Preview] No. 9791 del
imageboards are cool and doesnt afraid of anything. but yes


Bernd 08/28/2017 (Mon) 21:37:19 [Preview] No. 9802 del
>>9768
I like it, but the anons who really got it, I feel have moved on with their lives for the most part. In some ways I'm tired of it but that's only because there are less viable alternatives as less fresh takes on things. A lot of creativity is gone and on active boards people seem to think the proper course of action is to say >sage fuck op kys xdxdxd. instead of aiming for discourse and banter for its own sake. In a lot of ways the average poster on popular boards that I go to isn't different than the SJW they vilify. I am certainly appreciative of a board like this though as its lack of speed works out well given the broad and general topics and difference in time zone for me.


Bernd 08/28/2017 (Mon) 23:31:46 [Preview] No. 9803 del
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The whole net is painful. There are very few boards that are nice to visit and even these places are subject to wild variation in post quality. There are many threads i see that are all too familiar; whats left to say that has not already been said?
>>9779
I know this feeling well.


Bernd 08/30/2017 (Wed) 06:59:35 [Preview] No. 9823 del
>>9776
>How come?
When it becomes cold and snowy, you can see how the streets die. During the summer they are so lively, so why are they not lively during the winter? Since I don't own a car, I only see a few people jogging and rest of them doing their mandatory duties such as taking the dog for a walk. I consider this as weak minded action. Most anon just stay at home to lurk chans.

I have my own stupid world view and experiments I bear along since I'm a bit of masochist. For instance, I walked about 20km just to get couple routers for free during this summer. This winter I plan to do that same trip when it's at least -15°C and I must do it under 3h or it will not be considered successful experiment. If I predicted the weather wrong with too little cloathing, it's my fault entirely and there is no one to be blamed because most of the cases I do, I would rather take all the responsibility if no one else going to do it. Tough challenges make you understand, how to become even tougher to tackle down this challenge.

>Most people just cannot post anything beside repetitive meming. Empty and boring people.
I tend to consider them a bit weak minded if they are unable to create actually interesting threads. Being "weak minded" is my biggest concern. From what I have seen, most finnish boards activity is around /b/ and no other board like /a/ or /tech/. You can easily tell, where they have come from. Creating pointless threads with little to none actual message on their post (also known as zeroposting). I'm so fucking sick of it. That is why I like slow boards but when something comes up, it sure is worthywhile thread.


Bernd 08/30/2017 (Wed) 07:27:45 [Preview] No. 9824 del
Quality certainly has gone down over the years, but all of the drama still keeps me entertained enough to keep coming back.

>>9802
Most either moved on or reverted back to simply lurking. Many who grew up on imageboards have real lives now (work, children, etc) and simply do not have the time or desire anymore.
Personally I no longer have the time to be on imageboards for many hours at a time, and even when I do have the time I am mostly lurking.


Bernd 08/30/2017 (Wed) 07:32:04 [Preview] No. 9826 del
>>9824
>Personally I no longer have the time to be on imageboards for many hours at a time, and even when I do have the time I am mostly lurking.
Yes, I as well am having less and less time. But I'm talkative as fuck so whenever I'm online I must also post.


Bernd 08/30/2017 (Wed) 17:54:27 [Preview] No. 9835 del
>>9823
Chanpeople spend their days on chans all the time, no seasonal lurkers. I think Moot was the one confuted the existence of summerfags as there's no notable spikes in traffic thanks to school holidays. If people don't spend their time differently despite their obligatory activities I don't think colder weather would force more people onto imageboards.

I like to take longer trips too whenever I can. I enjoy the landscape, scenery and the walk itself more than the challenge. Once I went to purchase a larger batch of paint on foot to the other side of the town which felt a challenge. I don't remember the exact distance (15+ kms), but to the shop the way was mostly downhill and back was mostly uphill with the weight of a full backpack of thick paint in metal containers.
Your 20 kms under 3 hours is a lot. You need very fast pace. The temperature won't make any difference, I like to walk around in the cold snowy forests it even better at that time than in summer. I guess the snow won't be a problem for you as the roads and sidewalks are kept clean. If you want more challenge try knee high snow or higher.


Bernd 08/31/2017 (Thu) 00:27:26 [Preview] No. 9850 del
I spend time harvesting webms from russian chans and then I sometimes post them to tumblr.
If you go to any smartphone imageboard app and look at the boards they support >50% are russian boards. I feel like anglo-imageboard culture has really deteriorated since 2016 US election, all while russians kept increasing their chan presence.
Sometimes I'll poke around to see if there's any new anglo imageboard that shows promise but it seems endchan really is the end in that regard.


Bernd 08/31/2017 (Thu) 00:35:32 [Preview] No. 9851 del
Oh right another thing that has been killing imageboard culture: Discord. You know the "imageboard chat" that was linked in another thread? Discord is like that except x1000 more mainstream and accessible. You can share images and videos, you can shitpost and spam, you can talk to each other with voice and you can play games with each other.


Bernd 08/31/2017 (Thu) 05:22:45 [Preview] No. 9853 del
>>9850
>>9851
The advantage imageboards offer is the relative anonymity which our somewhat little board lacks so people can share ideas without the taint of their established irl reputation or without tainting their established irl reputation. But I think this is a bone everyone here gnawed bare already.
How much anonymity Discord offers? I ask as I know it only by name.


Bernd 08/31/2017 (Thu) 08:48:59 [Preview] No. 9857 del
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>>9850
I wonder how much more fucked the U.S of A will become? I feel like i could write an entire book on the internet and how Americans have further fucked themselves with it. Maybe the net is just a place to feel the symptoms of a dying empire more personally? Social media alone is like an encyclopedia of the people from the period and whilst I have always criticized the U.S for it's many faults; the people, now more than ever, have shown how incredibly fucked they are in some kind of a collective delusion. No doubt, image boards and anonymity are not valued or used in a way that respects their value anymore. Is this a passing trend? Identity politic born of using social media and entertainment/products as a means of moral directive and acceptance; as the window that shapes a persons perspective or more accurately, an imposition of thought and feeling that is popular and pretentious. Does anybody else remember the occupy wall st movement? I wasn't impressed at the time, but it seems like a golden beacon of hope compared to the way the current American protests itself.

I really cannot stress enough the sheer pretense of the American. How the American will look at the most fundamental and long-term of issues through a catalog of symbols and adverts; as if altering the appearance is enough to dismantle decades of government and business malpractice that has eroded the liberty of the people and raped the ideals that your entire country was founded upon. What's worse is that many do not understand the world outside of America and even how the U.S of A fits into a geopolitical and economic reality that no longer sits America atop all others by the widest of margins. Following WWII the states were the power in the world. No longer is this so and if this is not recognized and managed carefully; expect the collapse of the empire to ever hasten and grow ever more violent. I only hope the rest of the world doesn't get pulled into it.


Bernd 08/31/2017 (Thu) 22:38:44 [Preview] No. 9868 del
>>9857
america no.1 budy c'mon man whatchu talkin bout Willis?! Trump's going to save us believe that. I read a lot of things over the years saying Americans don't typically save any money. Long-term thinking has been completely bred out for the most part. We need Jesus something fierce.


Bernd 08/31/2017 (Thu) 22:54:50 [Preview] No. 9869 del
>>9853
>discord
namefag central; at least the few rooms I've been in there's a couple dramafags everywhere who keep bringing their grudges from elsewhere


Bernd 09/01/2017 (Fri) 05:13:26 [Preview] No. 9871 del
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>>9857
>>9869
Allowing people to use more sophisticated technical instruments than hoe and plow was a mistake.

>>9868
USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!


Bernd 09/04/2017 (Mon) 16:13:21 [Preview] No. 9898 del
>>9853
>How much anonymity Discord offers?
AS much as Skype I suppose. You need to give your email in registration and then you pick a name whatever you like and you can have different name in every channel.
And yeah I agree that might kill imageboards. I already witnessed some board being deflated from users because they were too busy shitposting on their discord. Thankfully it's not popular yet in boland. Akshually whatever, I don't go to polish boards very often.


Bernd 09/06/2017 (Wed) 16:29:46 [Preview] No. 9941 del
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What makes people post on imageboards?
Can imageboards be considered as social media?


Bernd 09/06/2017 (Wed) 16:39:46 [Preview] No. 9943 del
>>9941
>Can imageboards be considered as social media?
Yes.
<Social media are computer-mediated technologies that facilitate the creation and sharing of information, ideas, career interests and other forms of expression via virtual communities and networks.


Bernd 09/06/2017 (Wed) 16:49:11 [Preview] No. 9947 del
>>9941
Freedom of expression, not only affiliated with loose rules there, but rather thanks to anonymity.


Bernd 09/07/2017 (Thu) 05:54:35 [Preview] No. 10032 del
>>9943
But imgaboards lack in networking due to anonymity and very few if any can be called as communities. Well this expression is quite a stretch for pretty much all regular social media too so that's no biggie.

>>9947
True but I think other factors are in play too.


Bernd 09/07/2017 (Thu) 09:55:50 [Preview] No. 10041 del
>>10032
> very few if any can be called as communities
Here I'd disagree strongly, even if anonymous imahgeboards in general tend to make a stark difference between "insiders" and "outsiders".


Bernd 09/07/2017 (Thu) 20:11:19 [Preview] No. 10065 del
>>10041
>"insiders" and "outsiders"
You mean those who belongs to that particular group and those who don't? e.g. "go back to /pol/", "fuck off reddit" Bernds vs. Keinbernds, normies etc?


Bernd 09/07/2017 (Thu) 20:25:56 [Preview] No. 10066 del
>>9947
>>10032
>other factors
I don't have clearly formulated thoughts on this but...
... for example lots of posts while deserve but don't really need much freedom or anonymity and could be posted elsewhere, places where those even could give some credit to the person itself.
Or some people posts on fast boards to feed their addiction.
Or I dunno.


Bernd 09/07/2017 (Thu) 20:32:22 [Preview] No. 10067 del
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>>10032
>But imgaboards lack in networking due to anonymity and very few if any can be called as communities.
That is the very crux of it. The line can be very easily drawn that every 'ism' is the pathologized, compulsory version of the behaviour it reflects, like alcoholism instead of just sometimes drinking alcohol. Talking compulsively to nameless faggots who can't even respond with offering you normal intimate security in return is hypersocial, not antisocial. Sociality is the crowd, intimacy is individual persons. Anonymousness pinpoints extra emphasis on the crowdness of the crowd with even lessened value for intimacy.


Bernd 09/08/2017 (Fri) 05:41:51 [Preview] No. 10072 del
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>>10067
Yes imageboards are very social places and what you wrote can be connected to this post: >>10066 too as many people enjoy having this bustling social activity large boards offer. And yeah despite this level os socialness it will lack of networking as the lack of knowledge of each other and the intimacy and intimate security as you put it denies the possibility to make permanent relations.
However dabbling in absolutes will lead is into falsities. There could be circumstances when actual networks of people can emerge from the imageboard crowd.
But I would wait the continuation maybe him >>10065 will reply and I'm curious what he meant by disagreeing.


Bernd 09/08/2017 (Fri) 05:43:39 [Preview] No. 10073 del
>>10067
Also what -ism would you name this type of overconsuming you described?


Bernd 09/08/2017 (Fri) 06:20:50 [Preview] No. 10076 del
>>10066
>>10072
Yep that is exactly what I meant.


Bernd 09/08/2017 (Fri) 17:41:32 [Preview] No. 10081 del
>>10076
Then yes, group identity, a sense of belonging is one of the traits of communities. Also I can recognize other traits like common interest and cooperative work for common goals at least occasionally.
I'm not one who spent time on large number of chans or boards (while I explored vastly more than an average 4chan user) and you have your "nomadic" experience so I'm interested what you can say about the background of your disagreement.


Bernd 09/08/2017 (Fri) 18:44:31 [Preview] No. 10083 del
>>10073
>Also what -ism would you name this type of OVERCONSUMING you described?
Firstly the compulsion is to write, not to read, that's the original social function that traditionally has been rewarded in a social setting with adding fame to your name. Compulsion is active. Compulsion to open your PC and just read imageboards is a symptom in the real word outside this social network and within the one that your room is a part of over there. It's not a clean fit with the economic model of consumerism.

Not any one -ism specifically is important because that would be thinking backwards, what should be done is first determine if a person has compulsory behaviours and those may indicate a form of -ism. The reason to bring up compulsion is that normal rewards of social behaviour don't seem to apply anonymously, but anononymous messaging still takes the form of behaviour that has been learned because social functions have previously lead to the reward of intimate functions. That reward is normally appreciated on a personal level, in other word intimate level. The reasons for that replacement should be considered to be caused by any pattern of behaviour that can be described with an -ism, both pathological and ideological.

TL;DR
It depends on the person and why they do it, the main point is that it's pathological in form but it could also be ideological because ideologues express themselves pathologically on purpose. It's more important to not rule out any possibility than naming a single one.


Bernd 09/08/2017 (Fri) 18:54:51 [Preview] No. 10084 del
It bears mention that antisocial behaviour is also active, reclusiveness is not antisocial unless it leads to lashing out antisocially. Antisocials do things like seek other people to bully, or respond to all situations with genuine hostility. There's a strong popular myth of every recluse just "building up" their antisocial behaviour, because social people are intimately deficient and tend to overadjust their assumptions about entirely different behaviour into just being a different balance of the same behaviour.

(Intimate deficiency is usually because they spend their intimacy outside of public view.)


Bernd 09/14/2017 (Thu) 19:17:36 [Preview] No. 10402 del
>>10083
Consuming things aren't necessary be part of the economic scheme. But even in that consuming isn't just passive, for example when consuming services we consume all the aspect that particular service can give which can be active activities. When we use an imageboard we have access all the activities it offers which includes writing. Btw even reading isn't passive as it's decoding and interpreting strings of symbols (letters) which is an active process despite we get during that and not really give. Of course reading usually can't give the chance of feedback, reaction hence the reward of fame from others unlike writing.
Here we arrived to the fact that writing on imageboards can give positive (and negative to be honest) feedback, rendering the writing not just a l'art pour l'art act, and even fame. This fame can go to that certain thought written in that particular post which then could give birth to a meme. Other times this fame creates a persona (like Wojak or ferenc) which can get credit later on.

I did not wish to imply to fit the behaviour in question into an existing -ism but I was curious if you could come up with some catchy name.


Bernd 09/14/2017 (Thu) 19:22:18 [Preview] No. 10403 del
>>10084
Yes. Being an introvert or an asocial or an antisocial (in it's colloquial meaning) or a sociopath are different things.


Bernd 09/24/2017 (Sun) 08:06:25 [Preview] No. 10644 del
Right now I'm fed up with that permavigin rage that makes some peeps shit all over threads with good looking women in them. They can't enjoy a cute face and/or a shapely body without getting frustrated by their own state and they start to project their rage onto those grills like somehow it's their fault. This especially bad in the case of real and e-celebrities.
I think the closest example is how that Bernd with the Peruvianball behaved in relation with Alizée. And this case was quite mild. Some fags out there can work themself up so much that they go out and harass their waifu (because these nutcases are actually in love with those broads and the fact that they'll never "get" them makes them angry) and they put so much energy into their shit that if they put that much into getting a real pussy that they could get one.
I'm seriously considering it would be a great idea to establish state owned "how to get women" schools and official matchmaking offices with mandatory registration and shit like that.


Bernd 09/24/2017 (Sun) 08:14:33 [Preview] No. 10645 del
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>>10644
I know that feel fam. Niggers are retarded. It's like a chicken and the egg situation. They don't really understand the fundamental differences of men and women and then blame women for acting like women, or when they get old and don't look quite so good. Only thing that really pisses me off about women I'd say is the hair color thing. Some women I know have had the same artificial hair color for 10+ years be it blonde or sometimes just a lighter shade of brown then their natural hair color. This is time and money they waste.


Bernd 09/24/2017 (Sun) 17:13:06 [Preview] No. 10663 del
>>10645
What I don't like in women is their unrealistic expectations. They want a strong independent man who/whom/whomst/whomt/whot/whatever they can control and when they get one they are upset they can't control him. Or if they can control him then they are upset he isn't strong and independent.


Bernd 10/13/2017 (Fri) 12:53:41 [Preview] No. 11153 del
I'd still rather post things like this on imageboards than start a blog:

<I find that memory is heavily associative -- when I'm prepared to speak in English, it somehow cuts my mental association to most concepts that I mainly know in the context of Finnish. It's like a complete gear shift, where the two languages can't meet. Speaking in English I sometimes couldn't be put on the spot to recall even basic things like catchy song lyrics in Finnish unless they're already in my near memory. That is, recalling from your vast pool of experience is in itself something that requires a certain level of talent to perform with immediacy, but its curious how that works specifically in a single side of the language barrier. This makes me wonder if in fact every word we speak somehow reminds us of every other word we know, but only within the same langauge. It's strictly a matter of semiotics, I do recall abstract concepts of course but the appropriate signifiers don't come to me easily from separate languages, although I'm trained for them to come quite easily as long as I only have to speak in either language, but then I can do it at great length without stuttering or looking for the correct word. This time I was trying to translate in my a head a figurative reference to calvinism somebody was using, and how to say the same thing to a Finn, but I couldn't for the life of me remember the name of laestadionism although Finnish armchair politicians talk about them all the fucking time. I just haven't ever heard that word in an English sentence, so while my brain was primed to English the word for laestadionism didn't exist for me.


Bernd 11/10/2017 (Fri) 06:17:19 [Preview] No. 11808 del
>>11153
Expressing things in another language sure needs a different thinking process. Sometimes I would share something with Bernd but in English it would be nonsense so a decide against it.
Literal translations of sayings sounds funny tho.

This < thingy doesn't fit into this color scheme of ours. Very hard to read. In fact had to copypaste this text into a text editor.

Now I'm pondering how much posters would we need so the board could do all right. This is a periodically returning motif.



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