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Tech Thread Bernd 06/27/2017 (Tue) 17:57:50 [Preview] No. 8430
Is it possible to disable GPS in phones?
I mean actually disable it like disassemble the phone and disconnect it on the circuit board and not just in the options menu which will disable it for you and apps but not for those who want to know your location (like Google or such).


Bernd 06/27/2017 (Tue) 19:36:57 [Preview] No. 8441 del
Yeah, just clip the chip off. Which phone is it?


Bernd 06/27/2017 (Tue) 20:01:21 [Preview] No. 8445 del
Any. It's mainly hypothetical. One day it could be useful.


Bernd 06/28/2017 (Wed) 03:55:56 [Preview] No. 8451 del
>>8430
>his phone has GPS


Bernd 06/28/2017 (Wed) 03:57:56 [Preview] No. 8452 del
otherwise >>8441 has the right idea, solution for this should be done on hardware level (turn it non-functional) because it's probably integrated into operating system pretty deep


Bernd 06/28/2017 (Wed) 05:29:19 [Preview] No. 8456 del
>>8452
>otherwise >>8441 has the right idea, solution for this should be done on hardware level (turn it non-functional)
Actually that was my idea:
>disassemble the phone and disconnect it on the circuit board
So I don't think we are any further solving the problem.


Bernd 06/28/2017 (Wed) 11:10:47 [Preview] No. 8461 del
>he has a phone
normies pls go


Bernd 06/28/2017 (Wed) 20:15:42 [Preview] No. 8515 del
It is possible if GPS is separate on board, although it may broke without it. Better to replace with identical dummy module. You also can try to cheat and make some dummy software that would give fake coordinates, and evil google and Russian hackers would trust it.

But it is all meaningless shit, mate. You can be tracked by cellular network. It isn't very precise, but working. You also can be tracked by wifi, even if it is your wifi - some people and organizations do wifi maps in cities.

You have nowhere to run. It is the end.


Bernd 06/29/2017 (Thu) 05:13:35 [Preview] No. 8525 del
>>8515
I knew it! If you need real useful info a Russian can give you one.
What can be GPS integrated into? CPU, Bluetooth, Wifi?
Yeah I know about triangulation that's how older non-smart phones were tracked in need. Here we had some law about the period of time the providers had to keep the data and how the data can be acquired by anyone and such. However what's the thingy they track? The receiver's movement in the network? I dunno much about this.
Since when they equip phones with GPS btw?
>wifi
If it's connecting to wifis.


Bernd 06/29/2017 (Thu) 10:19:17 [Preview] No. 8528 del
>>8525
>What can be GPS integrated into? CPU, Bluetooth, Wifi?

It can be integrated in one big chip that you couldn't remove easily. Although chip often placed near, but I guess all thing will broke if you just remove one part.

>However what's the thingy they track? The receiver's movement in the network? I dunno much about this.

They can easily find network cell where your phone is located and record your movement between cells, no triangulation is needed, you phone registers by itself. It is pretty easy even to store, so they do it for years, police can ask them if they want. It has bad precision (few km, depends of network density), but it is something.

Overall, everything depends of what you want to achieve, what you want to hide etc.


Bernd 06/29/2017 (Thu) 10:51:08 [Preview] No. 8530 del
Even if you did, they'd still know where you are through triangulation
>he's 1 mile away from this tower, 200 feet from this tower and half a mile away from this one
>therefore he should be right here
This is how they were able to track people's location before GPS


Bernd 06/29/2017 (Thu) 12:21:29 [Preview] No. 8531 del
>>8515
Imagine a world where anybody can just take a look at you and know exactly where you are. Millennials have it worst.


Bernd 06/30/2017 (Fri) 09:14:40 [Preview] No. 8559 del
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>>8531
I literally don't worry about it because I have no real social accounts or popular smartphone. Maybe in 30-40 years everyone would have ID chip under skin, but I'll be dead already.

Fuck this world.


Bernd 06/30/2017 (Fri) 21:59:01 [Preview] No. 8585 del
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>>8430
Welcome to the dystopia world. In this world, the cheaper and "dumber" your tech is, the more freedom you actually have so you don't have to worry about what problems other people have.
If your phone does not have a GPS module, then you don't have to worry about it, however you will have to worry if you want to locate yourself when you are in a unknown are that you don't recognize.
>>8452
If the hardware way is not the way to get rid of then how would you get rid of it? This is a bit similar question when it comes to Intel ME and Libreboot. I mean get a new kernel with no support for the GPS module or something like that. In a android phone, would this mean that you have to get root access and then remove some of the files that are needed to operate the GPS?
>>8515
>You also can try to cheat and make some dummy software that would give fake coordinates
I believe this would be somewhat good solution because in android developer tools, you can enable fake locations. There should also be some software for that because of the Pokemon GO nonsense where people would start to cheat by giving false coordinates to the app so they would get advantage over other players.
>But it is all meaningless shit, mate. You can be tracked by cellular network. It isn't very precise, but working. You also can be tracked by wifi, even if it is your wifi - some people and organizations do wifi maps in cities.
This is certainly true, thanks to the latest wikileaks info on windows machine and how they can give your location up when you use wlan access point. This then begs the question, how can you access the internet without compromising your location? Using a Linux machine that then router the internet further on down the machines while blocking ports that might be used malicious and stuff like that.
>You have nowhere to run. It is the end.
If only I could think of a counter argument for that. Go offline and use computers offline while only accessing internet public wlan? Or cracking neighbours access point to be anonymous?
>>8530
Stallman was right.

I really have to learn to use RS232 and Parallel port. You guys better start stockpile on thinkpads and then libreboot them or buy old enough machine with no features such as Intel ME/AMT or anything else actually.
This really is the end when you can't tell what EU is up to. I wonder when free speech becomes a joke.


Bernd 07/01/2017 (Sat) 09:43:33 [Preview] No. 8603 del
>>8585
>I wonder when free speech becomes a joke.

it isn't now? you can speak only about things that noone cares about, and mass bydlo opinion is 100% controllable.

if you say "fuck refuges" you will literally go to gulag.


Bernd 07/01/2017 (Sat) 09:47:43 [Preview] No. 8604 del
>>8585
>I mean get a new kernel with no support for the GPS module or something like that.
No, the problem exists that the radio comes with firmware than can use the arm chip to run arbitrary code and access the GPS outside of the OS, meaning it doesn't even touch the kernel. The only option here is to short circuit/bypass the chip with a bit of wiring or possibly flash the chip to make it broken.

I hate to get too technical on this, but unless this is for a specific use then it's likely a moot point. Your IMEI will be tracked to the receiving tower and the data you send and its' recipients logged.

>>8515
>You also can be tracked by wifi, even if it is your wifi - some people and organizations do wifi maps in cities
Actually this is a misconception. It's true, most wifi AP's are mapped but how would they know which AP you are using? From one end your activity would be traced back to the IP, which they would have an adress for and know you are accessing from somewhere they can track by signals. The other way is that you share the SSID with google/apple which they find on the map data however this can be disabled in android and usually isn't on custom roms.

I suppose you could get really technical about this, but if you really want to do this get a stack of prepaid burner phones and only talk to others with burners and don't use names or addresses. The information is too sporadic to efficiently mine. The other option gets too technical, which would be a secured smart phone phone with software to change the IMEI, using a VPN with shared IPs over a mobile data network to communicate via VOIP or other encrypted p2p messaging. That said they might just target you directly for using encryption, in which case the backdoor in your radios' firmware means you are fucked. The entire mobile telenet communication system is fucked.

You could do what Stallman does. Get a pager. Someone contacts you. You find a wifi area and contact them securely. What you really want is a free software wifi capable tablet the size of a small smart phone which would be much more convenient that lugging around your laptop.


Bernd 07/01/2017 (Sat) 10:08:14 [Preview] No. 8605 del
>>8603
Free speech is pretty new concept actually, it properly exists only in USA and really worked only last ~50 years. In other parts of world speech was never free.

So, enjoy this at least.

>if you say "fuck refuges" you will literally go to gulag.

Always was like this, especially in West, where people are overly collectivist and communitarian inside. Going against community is the best way to be an outsider.


Bernd 07/01/2017 (Sat) 10:15:15 [Preview] No. 8607 del
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>>8604
There are plenty ways to became anonymous even in our times, but they all require some hard work and limit your ability to interact with common people. Like this:

>get a stack of prepaid burner phones and only talk to others with burners and don't use names or addresses

So, everything depends on what you want to hide, who are you and why you doing all this. All this require serious changes to your life (if you are commoner). I don't talk here about special needs like transferring big evil secrets through internet.

It is good to have some king of privacy in normal life though.


Bernd 07/01/2017 (Sat) 15:43:37 [Preview] No. 8609 del
>>8430
>Is it possible to disable GPS in phones?
Pretty easily actually. GPS signals come from sattellites, so they are very weak. All you have to do is jam the frequency with a low power transmitter and your phone is blind.
Don't forget GLONASS for more modern phones.


Bernd 07/01/2017 (Sat) 19:32:12 [Preview] No. 8634 del
>>8609
actually yeah people do that a lot
and considering the standards it wouldn't jam anything else either
but I'm not sure how much power would a jammer take, probably not much but still I'd like to know figures


Bernd 08/04/2017 (Fri) 14:15:52 [Preview] No. 9405 del
Hypothetically if you'd have to stream video over lan how would you do it, Bernd?


Bernd 08/04/2017 (Fri) 16:03:00 [Preview] No. 9406 del
>>9405
if windows I used to use servio to stream video files on my computer to my ps3/tv set up. There's osmc? I think it's called on linux. I never got it to work though. Servio was pretty easy though I'm not sure what it can and can't all stream to.


Bernd 08/04/2017 (Fri) 16:12:19 [Preview] No. 9407 del
>>9405
I'd use VLC, it's what its original purpose was (Video LAN Client)


Bernd 08/04/2017 (Fri) 16:36:48 [Preview] No. 9414 del
>>9406
>osmc
Yeah, it seems it has Debian packages.

>>9407
>Video LAN Client
>Client
What's the server?


Bernd 08/04/2017 (Fri) 17:01:49 [Preview] No. 9416 del
>>9414
There used to be a separate VLS (Video LAN Server) but they've been joined into a single project.


Bernd 08/04/2017 (Fri) 19:34:32 [Preview] No. 9417 del
>>9405
It depends what you want to stream, and who would watch it and how much time you are ready to invest in setup. VLC is probably easiest solution.

I, for example, would just share file with http server (just one-liner in terminal) and watch it through mpv through http, although you can't do it with webcam.


Bernd 08/08/2017 (Tue) 19:24:08 [Preview] No. 9479 del
>>9417
>I, for example, would just share file with http server (just one-liner in terminal) and watch it through mpv through http,
That's a sympathetic solution. What would be the easiest server to use?


Bernd 08/08/2017 (Tue) 19:32:14 [Preview] No. 9480 del
>>9479
I just doing something like "cd /path/to/dir && python -m http.server 9090" (where 9090 is port). It is for python 3, for 2 it would be -m SimpleHTTPServer, and other is same. Don't know about non-linuxes, I have none.

There is some list: https://gist.github.com/willurd/5720255

If you want something more serious and static, nginx is pretty simple. Maybe some hipster thing like caddy, but I never used it by myself.


Bernd 08/08/2017 (Tue) 19:59:54 [Preview] No. 9482 del
>>9480
Hm. That one liner sounds something that can be used via SSH and don't need tinkering with the server-to-be.


Bernd 08/08/2017 (Tue) 20:00:34 [Preview] No. 9483 del
>>9480
Also I'm guessing custom port number can be given, no?


Bernd 08/08/2017 (Tue) 20:15:55 [Preview] No. 9484 del
>>9482
Yes. This is really simple solution for transferring files inside network or even over internet.

These servers may have not perfect performance, but it isn't a problem for this use case.

>>9483
Yes.


Bernd 09/13/2017 (Wed) 21:02:13 [Preview] No. 10379 del
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I never ever Windows 10 but now a friend of mine asked me to check a laptop of his coworker as "it keeps restarting". Prescription from the guy said I should install a new Win 10 on it. I said I'll check it out. I thought it's faulty RAM or something.
Here's the laptop, and it just gave a notice about a changed hardware setting with a recommendation of restarting on every startup. No actual restart, click OK and it's usable. So it's driver and I figured it's the graphics as it's AMD. I updated the driver meanwhile the Windows had his Windows update.
After a restart I restarted it again, and the problem went away. I let the machine sit for a while turned on (I did my evening routine meanwhile) then I tried shutdown or restart I don't remember (I planned to check it again). But this piece of crap just loads something: blue background, circle goes around and around with a text: "Preparing Windows - Do not turn the machine off".
This goes for at least 20 minutes now. What the fuck?


Bernd 09/14/2017 (Thu) 05:15:30 [Preview] No. 10387 del
>>10379
So I let it sit for another 20 mins then of course I turned it off. Or suspended or whatever as when I turned it on it cuntinued with this shit. So I powered off for the night.
About half hour ago I flipped it on again. Continued loading. Then loaded. It wörks now as intended. Even the booting became shorter.
The mysterious ways of Windows I guess. But I realized why is it called 10. It took 10 mins for it to make me rage.


Bernd 09/14/2017 (Thu) 09:58:18 [Preview] No. 10391 del
windows, more like faildows


Bernd 09/14/2017 (Thu) 15:28:37 [Preview] No. 10392 del
>>10391
You're right.

Also the Windows update itself took like ages. Just dl-ing the stuff was 1,5 hour. Then installing another half hour. Than this "getting ready" stuff...
I don't get it. Linux has it's quirks due it's development by hobbyists working in their free time. But Microsoft engineers and programmers are paid handsomely to exclusively do their job. Then they sell their shit for a smaller treasure.


Bernd 09/14/2017 (Thu) 17:06:31 [Preview] No. 10398 del
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>>10391
windows, more like bin, douse, and set on fire


Bernd 09/15/2017 (Fri) 14:06:34 [Preview] No. 10418 del
>>10392
You are literally witnessing the failure of capitalism first-hand


Bernd 09/15/2017 (Fri) 16:00:38 [Preview] No. 10426 del
>>10418
you mean, the failure of monopolies


Bernd 09/16/2017 (Sat) 09:51:34 [Preview] No. 10459 del
>>10426
>What is Apple


Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 06:01:29 [Preview] No. 10874 del
Why is it so fucking hard to find a passable proxy?


Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 08:37:03 [Preview] No. 10875 del
>>10874
You want free proxy? These things were dead for years.

Make them by yourself now, hosting is cheap.


Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 15:45:08 [Preview] No. 10876 del
>>10875
I find working free proxies with the same effort since forever which is a damn long period.
I don't want to set up an own as I rarely need or want one so the expense no matter how trivial these days isn't justified.
On Monday I saw that pigdog posting on 8/kc and I tried to direct him here as he's not bad poster and we need everyone we can get. Also 8/kc doesn't need any posters as it's more dead, ümm, sorry, more special then ours here. And I'm sure he would be interested in a board with such great quality as ours. This is why I needed proxy as the new BO there bans everyone who mentions this place. I wrote on Monday evening but it was deleted yesterday. And in the end I managed to leave a post in the morn but now it's gone the BO probably anticipated another post and acted accordingly. Damn neets.


Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 16:52:14 [Preview] No. 10878 del
>>10876
Some time ago 8/kc was again free for claim
>wrote email to admin
>advertised this place there
>next day I'm banned and board is taken


Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 17:04:40 [Preview] No. 10882 del
>>10878
What a pleasant bunch.
Where can one see which boards are claimable?


Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 18:11:07 [Preview] No. 10884 del
>>10882
>/int/ is still claimable
I wrote an email a month ago already, I wonder what's wrong with it?


Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 18:12:08 [Preview] No. 10885 del
>>10883
Thanks.

So. They might know him and when you tried to claim the board they notified him and did the necessary steps to keep the board. I don't understand the ban tho.


Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 18:14:13 [Preview] No. 10888 del
>>10884
How much traffic does it get?


Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 18:23:35 [Preview] No. 10890 del
>>10888
Slightly more than this place, I'd say.


Bernd 10/04/2017 (Wed) 22:10:56 [Preview] No. 10903 del
>>10878
IIRC there's a rule specifically banning the use of Jimchan boards to advertise boards on other sites.


Bernd 10/05/2017 (Thu) 15:31:54 [Preview] No. 10910 del
>>10885
>>10903
I remember now that I asked for the board just after last KC downtime, so tbh the old-new owner could just log in into his account.
Also I know about board advertising rule, it's only in effect if you have a board solely to redirect traffic into a different place, and I just made one thread as a user and got banned by local owner.



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