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Syria War thread Bernd 09/10/2017 (Sun) 20:54:54 [Preview] No. 10248
Because rondam news is too small to contain it

ISIS in Deir ez-Zor got almost rekt, siege is broken.

YPG forces started their own offensive and arrived in north of Deir ez-Zor.
>US-Led Coalition ‘Will Not Allow’ Syrian Army To Cross Euphrates River In Deir Ezzor
https://twitter.com/southfronteng/status/906624779997765632
wew
I except they start fighting with each other soon, maybe even tomorrow, while ISIS will occasionaly bomb a car or a tank on both sides.

ISIS in eastern Homs are getting gradually removed and hopefully soon they will be containet in the east.

There was something about Israel entering Lebanon air space and Syria reacting with anti air defence but sadly I lost link to proofs.

Link to map
https://syria.liveuamap.com/


Bernd 09/10/2017 (Sun) 20:56:35 [Preview] No. 10251 del
>>10248
> but sadly I lost link to proofs.
nevermind, I found it
>Confirmed 100% Today and for the first time the #Syrian Air Defense engaged an #Israeli target flying over #Lebanon.
https://twitter.com/WaelHussaini/status/906898805404127233


Bernd 09/10/2017 (Sun) 20:58:18 [Preview] No. 10252 del
Good idea. We're hanging out with im jew on KhanTube if you're interested in watching palm trees bowing.


Thread Theme Bernd 09/10/2017 (Sun) 21:04:56 [Preview] No. 10254 del
As always, the theme song for the thread.


Bernd 09/10/2017 (Sun) 21:07:59 [Preview] No. 10255 del
>>10254
Cozy.


Bernd 09/15/2017 (Fri) 17:57:20 [Preview] No. 10439 del
https://www.rt.com/news/403477-syrian-children-aid-money-dissappeared/
golly gee I wonder ﴾﴾﴾who﴿﴿﴿ took those dinars


Bernd 09/15/2017 (Fri) 18:19:25 [Preview] No. 10440 del
>>10439
Why noone giving me free moneiz? I don't cost much, I'm not an addict, I generally live a healthy life (healthier than my average compatriot), I've constructive hobbies and can manage my budget well.
Maybe I should write to Merkel or to western NGOs something.


Bernd 09/16/2017 (Sat) 10:05:38 [Preview] No. 10463 del
>I except they start fighting with each other soon
ids habening
>Russian or Syrian airforce hit positions of SDF fighters on the East bank of Euphrates as they advance to Deir-Ez-Zur against ISIS

>>10440
>I don't cost much, I'm not an addict, I generally live a healthy life (healthier than my average compatriot), I've constructive hobbies and can manage my budget well.
This disqualify you from free monies.


Bernd 09/28/2017 (Thu) 20:19:05 [Preview] No. 10731 del
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What are these guys up to? Are they just a sham?


Bernd 09/28/2017 (Thu) 20:42:17 [Preview] No. 10732 del
>>10731
idk but they got dank-ass flag


Bernd 09/28/2017 (Thu) 20:47:48 [Preview] No. 10733 del
>>10731
>Are they just a sham?
Nusra rebranded as a PR move to improve the opposition's image to Western eyes, so yes, they're a sham.

btw, Syrian rebels have great symbology.


Bernd 09/28/2017 (Thu) 21:12:25 [Preview] No. 10734 del
>>10733
>Syrian rebels have great symbology.
>Flag_of_Hayat_Tahrir_al-Sham.
>It's an overhead view of a bowl of spaghetti onna plank.

Are you seriously trying to tell me these cypto-kikes are willing to fight and die for this shit? Any serious highschool art student could top that halfassed heraldry.


Bernd 09/29/2017 (Fri) 20:04:30 [Preview] No. 10764 del
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ISIS made a succesfull attack on a road between Palmyra and Deir Ez Zor, but SAA recaptured it day later. There are still some forces east of Palmyra. Looks like ISIS have still some power, more then I though.

Also some intense bombing on rebel territory between Aleppo and Hama. Assad tried invade but was repelled.


Bernd 10/07/2017 (Sat) 07:56:13 [Preview] No. 10955 del
https://www.rt.com/news/405969-syria-russian-airstrikes-kill-isis/
>from Northern Caucasus
What did they mean by this?


Bernd 10/07/2017 (Sat) 10:29:48 [Preview] No. 10960 del
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>>10955
>What did they mean by this?

In Russia term "North Caucasian" or simply "Caucasian" describes Russian citizens of several specific ethnic groups.

RT just wrote article in Russian-style for foreigners who rarely get it.


Bernd 10/07/2017 (Sat) 17:31:04 [Preview] No. 10961 del
>>10960
I tried to imply if this is a new Chechen war.


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>>10961
Oh that reminds me:

What's like the Russian sex?
1. Sasha lays on the mirror Masha is beneath him. Masha sounds like mása which means reflection or mirror image in Hungarian.
2. Four Russian two Chechen. [spoiler]Csecsen means on titties in Hungarian, so it's "Four Russians on two titties"
actually.[/spoiler]


Bernd 10/07/2017 (Sat) 21:17:10 [Preview] No. 10963 del
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>>10961
>I tried to imply if this is a new Chechen war.

We have news about some firefights and killing in Caucasus almost every week for years, so this Syrian campaign is meh compared to constant local happenings.


Bernd 10/07/2017 (Sat) 23:04:57 [Preview] No. 10964 del
>>10962
fenno-mongol humour


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 14:30:13 [Preview] No. 10982 del
>>10960
Why do Muslims often grow beard but shave mustache? Is it haram to have mustache? Or do they think this is how Mahomet looked like?


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 15:48:43 [Preview] No. 10989 del
>>10982
It's not in the Qur'an but it's in the Hadith that Muslims should shave their upper lip.
It also says that Muslims have to shave body hair, and even says that this is minor jihad, which means that this is jihad a Muslim wages on his body.


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 16:22:25 [Preview] No. 10992 del
>>10982
>Mahomet
>Baphomet
Coincidence?


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 16:25:07 [Preview] No. 10993 del
>>10989
But Jihad is the powerful way of spreading Islam. How can he jihad his body? If he accepts Islam then it's in his body already.


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 16:33:58 [Preview] No. 10996 del
>>10993
You could say that when you accept Islam it's the mind or brain or soul that accepts it, and the rest of the body must be jihaded properly.


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 16:35:50 [Preview] No. 10997 del
>>10992
Well, apostle Paul said that if anyone, even an angel, would teach a different gospel then he should be accursed. And then 500 years later an angel gibes Mahomet a different gospel, and accursed angel would in other words be called...?


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 16:51:37 [Preview] No. 10999 del
>>10997
You might be onto something.

>>10996
But soul lives in stomach. If you love you feel it in stomach if you fear you feel it in stomach if you Islam then it's in your stomach where it enters into bloodstream like nutrients which carries it all over the body.
Also wouldn't it be better to grind Koran put it into soap and wash with soap?


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 17:31:39 [Preview] No. 11000 del
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>>10982
It is often known as "salafi beard", it isn't strongly required by Islam, but some branches are strict about this.

I want to have that beard but my fennomongol genes don't allow it. It barely grows on cheeks.


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 17:38:20 [Preview] No. 11001 del
>>11000
Why do you want a salafi beard, Bernd?


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 17:45:13 [Preview] No. 11002 del
>>10992
m8 baphomet first appears in texts around the time of 1st crusade


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 17:48:32 [Preview] No. 11003 del
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r8


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 17:51:21 [Preview] No. 11006 del
>>11003
You have beard liek that?


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 17:57:18 [Preview] No. 11008 del
>>11001
>Why do you want a salafi beard, Bernd?

Because there is no G-d but Allah, and Muhammad is his messenger of course.


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Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 18:18:51 [Preview] No. 11011 del
>>11006
nod rly, I trim sides and I don't trim moustache at all, it just doesn't grow longer for me (except in the corners)


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 18:55:16 [Preview] No. 11015 del
>>11011
Doesn't your stache bother you by hanging onto your lips and into your food and drinks? I have to trim thanks for this reason. Not on the sides but over my lips.


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 19:23:56 [Preview] No. 11018 del
>>11015
it does not because it doesn't even grow long enough lol, the mid section is eyebrow tier for me


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 19:48:48 [Preview] No. 11020 del
>>11008
> G-d
a russian Jew Moslem, hory shid


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 19:50:35 [Preview] No. 11021 del
>>11000
>my fennomongol genes don't allow it
How old are you?
I had shitty beard too years ago but now it's pretty decent.


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 20:02:10 [Preview] No. 11022 del
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>>11021

32 soon. I'm old.

t. have something like 2 on pic


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 20:04:38 [Preview] No. 11023 del
>>10999
>Also wouldn't it be better to grind Koran put it into soap and wash with soap?
Wow that's not very tolerant of you. Don't destroy the Koran, it might have something valuable to teach you.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=91AM7665cbo [Embed]


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 20:06:25 [Preview] No. 11024 del
>>11022
>32
o-ok nevermind me then
actually that 2nd looks like something a proper mongol would have


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>>11018
You'd look cool on a t-shirt.
t. Che

>>11022
>confucius.jpg


Bernd 10/08/2017 (Sun) 22:14:03 [Preview] No. 11030 del
>>11021
>>11022
I was 1 at 14, and then I gained a level every year
except for the moustache, only gained it once beard reached level 5


Bernd 10/15/2017 (Sun) 21:07:21 [Preview] No. 11218 del
Raqqa will fall soon.

>SDF say it has launched its final assault on ISIS in Raqqa
>Reuters: Some, but not all, foreign IS fighters have left Syria’s Raqqa city on Sunday as part of a withdrawal deal with the SDF/YPG, a local official told Reuters today.
>After the evacuation of 275 Syrian IS fighters (including some foreigners) along with their families towards Deir ez-Zour province, the SDF announce they've begun their "final assault" on the remaining IS pocket in Raqqa.
>Source at #SDF to R24: ~ 400 fighters of #Daesh still inside #Raqqa most of them are foreign fighters who refused the agreement.


Bernd 10/16/2017 (Mon) 13:29:20 [Preview] No. 11233 del
Iraq moved forces into Kirkuk and K*rds are losing their shit
https://www.rt.com/news/406837-kurds-iraqi-forces-conflict-kirkuk/


Bernd 10/16/2017 (Mon) 14:17:23 [Preview] No. 11236 del
and Kirkuk is (according to RT according to Baghdad) fully under Iraqi control.
https://www.rt.com/news/406837-kurds-iraqi-forces-conflict-kirkuk/


Bernd 10/16/2017 (Mon) 15:32:09 [Preview] No. 11237 del
>>11233
So basically we have a new war on our hands. Iraq is against the Kurds. Turks are against the Kurds. What's the standpoint of Assad and Co's in this question. If these could join forces then the independent Kurdish state is done.

>>11218
What's next for ISIS? They don't really have ties to any land they could just pop up anywhere, don't they?


Bernd 10/16/2017 (Mon) 16:19:42 [Preview] No. 11243 del
>>11234
That's a lot of markers on that map.
It's like shit there is more intense then in Syria. Also why are they fighting? I know syrian kurds are gommies supported by USA, but I though iraqi ones have different views and were granted some kind of autonomy by Iraq gov?
Also also I talked with Iranian guy some time ago, and he told me that Kurds are actually an ethnic group from Iran, and that they should just return there and stop starting shit around middle east. I guess if that is true then I support this idea.

>>11237
If you would monitor that map frequently you would notice that ISIS pockets pop up without warning in the middle of syrian controled territory.
I guess after raqqa they will have to go down the tiger river and remove everything from there, and then eventually hunt all the hidden remnats across the country.


Bernd 10/16/2017 (Mon) 16:26:18 [Preview] No. 11247 del
>>11243
Kurds had independence referendum. Kirkuk wasn't part of autonomous Kurdistan, but was under Kurdish control after ISIS got rekt. Kirkuk was included in the referendum. Considering mass exodus of people when Iraqi army moved in, majority of actual Kirkuk inhabitants are outside as refugees anyway, and people voting for independence in Kirkuk were Kurds who moved in from elsewhere.

Oh, and should I mention, Kirkuk has oil, and was the first target Iraq threatened to seize from Kurds should they actually decide to secede.


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>>11243
Otherwise, Kurds are ethnically Iranian, but borders in the Middle East don't follow neither historical nor ethnic divisions. So if anything, entire Kurdistan should be part of Iran. And in any case. Kurds aren't a single ethnic group.
https://geopoliticalfutures.com/the-kurds-not-quite-a-nation/


Bernd 10/16/2017 (Mon) 17:10:27 [Preview] No. 11251 del
>>11247
>>11248
Kirkuk is rightful Turkmen clay.


Bernd 10/16/2017 (Mon) 17:16:14 [Preview] No. 11253 del
As much as I think Kurdistan deserves their independence for successfully fighting off ISIS, geopolitically they were always fucked and independence is impossible. An independent Iraqi Kurdistan would be a landlocked country surrounded by Iraq, Iran, and Turkey (and maybe Syria). They need sponsorship from at least one of these but instead all of them are antagonistic to independence.
Although what I just is not entirely true. Ironically Iran seems to be their current best bet, as they seem to be 'closet friends'. (Maybe it has something to do with >>11248 saying they are ethnically Iranian.) Assuming that PUK abandoned Kirkuk because Iran told them to is true, this is actually the correct decision for any chance of Kurdish independence/autonomy depends on Iran. An independent Kurdistan, if it ever exists, would then likely to be in Iran's sphere of influence, just like Iraq.


Bernd 10/16/2017 (Mon) 17:30:46 [Preview] No. 11255 del
>>11253
>current best bet
The only bet actually. Or is it really?
Funny thing, Israel seems to be on friendly terms on Kurds if I'm not mistaken, and while they wouldn't have common border Israel is a considerable force in the Middle East.
How's the relations between Iran and Iraq? Because both Turkey and Iran are aspiring to be a leading power in the region so if Iraq has some hostility then Iran might step in to gain an ally.
But then that would be an impossible love triangle with Israel, Kurdistan and Iran.


Bernd 10/16/2017 (Mon) 17:59:22 [Preview] No. 11257 del
>>11255
From what I understand about Israel, I believe they support Kurdistan for two reasons:
1) Kurds don't hate Israel
2) Their ongoing doctrine to destabilize (and keep destabilized) Middle Eastern countries to prevent any more Arab-Israeli Wars

However a great power Israel is, it's meaningless in the context of Kurdistan if they are unable to logistically and economically support them. Air logistics are infeasible on a mass scale, hence why land borders are so important. The same is true of any US support to an independent Kurdistan.

>How's the relations between Iran and Iraq?
I'm not an expert on this, but I imagine it to be fairly good, with them both being Shiites and generous military support from Iran to Iraq in fending off ISIS. As you've mentioned it yourself, Iran has aspirations to be a leading power, but personally I think their aspirations exceed that; they want to become a great power on par with the likes of US, China, Russia etc. If you're looking for a more in-depth analysis on this relationship I'm afraid I don't really have anything to add.


Bernd 10/16/2017 (Mon) 18:37:19 [Preview] No. 11258 del
Iran and Iraq are historically bitter rivals, but it would seem they're starting to cooperate lately.
https://www.rt.com/news/397268-iran-iraq-defense-deal/

The relationship between Kurds and Israel is more that Kurds want to lick Israel's boots in hope of getting something in return. So far, Israel has been supportive, but I don't think that's relevant in the big game.


Bernd 10/17/2017 (Tue) 05:17:16 [Preview] No. 11261 del
>>11257
The future of Syria is still not clear. USA still could decide Assad has to go and a US (and Israel) friendly regime has to be installed there.


Bernd 10/17/2017 (Tue) 13:04:27 [Preview] No. 11267 del
>>11261
Russia is fully committing to Syria, if not Assad. That Syria succumbs to American/Israeli influence while Russia has bases, jets, advanced AA, and advisers there is impossible.


Bernd 10/17/2017 (Tue) 18:51:37 [Preview] No. 11276 del
>>11218
It's ogre, SDF have Raqqa.
>3,250 killed in Raqa battle, including 1,130 civilians: monitor
Some pockets of resistance remain and are waiting to be purged.


Bernd 10/24/2017 (Tue) 23:42:17 [Preview] No. 11427 del
Anyone following the Ottoman operations in Idlib? A while ago it was announced that the Turkish army (and supposedly, even the Russian Air Force) would support its loyal rebels against HTS, which is harder to deal with and refuses to obey Erdogan.

And these operations have another purpose- surrounding Afrin's Kurds. They're even clashing, though skirmishes between Turks and Kurds have happened for years in this war.


Bernd 10/25/2017 (Wed) 05:31:55 [Preview] No. 11430 del
>>11427
>Anyone following the Ottoman operations in Idlib?
Probably BO.

These Turks want a slice of something. I'd bet a 100 HUF those fortifications at Dayr Sim'an are built against the Kurds.


Bernd 10/26/2017 (Thu) 16:23:11 [Preview] No. 11465 del
>>11430
eh nod really, I have been very busy lately and didn't have time to follow much


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Bernd 11/09/2017 (Thu) 16:20:17 [Preview] No. 11795 del
>>11794
They have other bases elsewhere, don't they?


Bernd 11/09/2017 (Thu) 18:08:19 [Preview] No. 11797 del
>>11795
ISIS branches in Afghanistan, the Philipines, the Sinai, Libya and so on are just local jihadi groups that pledged allegiance (bay'ah) to Baghdadi. In fact, the same holds true for some ISIS pockets in Syria isolated from the "core" territory.


Bernd 11/09/2017 (Thu) 18:25:08 [Preview] No. 11799 del
>>11797
So they're small timers. Will Isis be finished with this? Will their movement resurrected elsewhere as someone's tool?


Bernd 11/09/2017 (Thu) 20:44:35 [Preview] No. 11803 del
>>11799
They've spent many years as one of the minor groups holding no territory, so they'll just revert to that state and focus on terrorist acts and desert guerilla activity. But now they've definitively lost the mantle of foremost jihadi group; someone else will have the strength and boldness to lead a new group into the same spot in the future.


Bernd 11/19/2017 (Sun) 20:41:43 [Preview] No.12030 del
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I only wanted to post a screen with current situation.


Bernd 11/22/2017 (Wed) 06:24:00 [Preview] No.12073 del
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Looks like they wanna trap faggots inside Qurayyah and Asharah.


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>>12073
There's been fighting on Hama and Damascus over the past few days. I guess the slightly slower pace at the border is due to some loyalist forces returning to western Syria.


Bernd 11/23/2017 (Thu) 06:20:43 [Preview] No.12098 del
Is there any info on the strength of the parties out there? Should be a list of units on SAA, an order of battle or some such and estimates on rebel forces too.


Bernd 11/24/2017 (Fri) 01:41:44 [Preview] No.12112 del
>>12098
There are outdated estimates of the strength of each faction, see pic related. Getting orders of battle is much harder, though. For the rebels and SDF, we know of individual rebel groups and their coalitions, but not of the internal structure of these groups. An interesting thing is the territory held by each rebel group, which is largely uknown and only becomes apparent when they fight each other.

For the loyalists, the SAA's prewar order or battle is known, but that's not very useful. From the very beginning, political distrust, draft dodging and defections meant only a fraction of it was actually mobilized. The regime resorted to other sources of manpower, and thus the SAA has become just one of the several loyalist forces, together with foreign fighters (Hezbollah, Palestinians, Afghans, Iraqis, Russians and Iranians), local forces (NDF and tribes), private forces (Desert Hawks until their disbandment), sectarian or ideological militias (Ba'ath Brigades, Syrian resistance and the Shi'a and Druze militias) and so on.
There have been attempts to document its wartime order of battle, but they've always rapidly become outdated. But whenever there's a new battle, usually the units present are informed.

As for ISIS, I have no clue. All that's known are some specific rebel groups and tribes that pledged allegiance.


Bernd 11/24/2017 (Fri) 06:27:47 [Preview] No.12115 del
>>12112
Thx. I'll check these out.


Bernd 11/24/2017 (Fri) 21:06:47 [Preview] No.12125 del
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Dolan phoned the Kayser-i Rûm for some serious discussions about the Middle East.

The most serious result was his pledge to stop arming the SDF:
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/us-contacted-turkey-on-syria-peace-ypg-123010
>“President Trump instructed [his generals] in a very open way that the YPG will no longer be given weapons. He openly said that this absurdity should have ended much earlier,” Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu told reporters after the phone call

Someone on Plebbit claimed that Trump would blackmail Erdogan by threatening to blacklist T*rkish banks that broke sanctions against Iran. However, all we know so far is that America gave a concession to Turkey, pledging to stop arming the YPG. See:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/us-contacted-turkey-on-syria-peace-ypg-123010
>“President Trump instructed [his generals] in a very open way that the YPG will no longer be given weapons. He openly said that this absurdity should have ended much earlier,” Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu told reporters after the phone call

Nothing was said about air support and military advisors, but this is already a victory for Erdogan. So Trump either traded this pledge + not blacklisting the banks for a greater concession from Turkey, or he didn't mention the banks and went for a smaller concession. Which likely consists of Turkey slowing down its buildup of relations with Russia and Iran.


sage Bernd 11/24/2017 (Fri) 21:07:33 [Preview] No.12126 del
>>12125
fucked up the formatting real bad this time


Bernd 11/25/2017 (Sat) 08:07:05 [Preview] No.12127 del
>>12125
Iran-Russia-Turkey tripoint when?


Bernd 11/27/2017 (Mon) 00:39:57 [Preview] No.12164 del
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SDF have reached the border and will now mop up ISIS in the desert.

More importantly, several sources have claimed that the SDF will merge with the SAA once the war is over and a deal is achieved.
http://www.rudaw.net/mobile/arabic/middleeast/syria/251120174
https://twitter.com/CivilWarMap/status/934824353207930880

Minor news: a panorama of how ruined Syrian infrastructure is.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/syria-plans-railroad-to-turkish-border-123089


Bernd 11/27/2017 (Mon) 00:41:59 [Preview] No.12165 del
>>12164
The "federal system" is the PYD's hope for a decentralization reforms and more autonomy for the north. Assad has repeatedly stated that he wants to keep Arab power and centralized control, but Russia has proposed some level of decentralization and may thus secure it in a future peace deal.


Bernd 11/27/2017 (Mon) 17:38:01 [Preview] No.12176 del
>>12164
What foreign powers will have a say in the Syrian peace? Maybe I read (when I read) one sided news but Russia, Turkey and Iran reserves this "burden" for themselves, meanwhile any other powers only can stand around and watch history pass them (especially the USA seems to be cucked hard).


Bernd 11/27/2017 (Mon) 20:31:19 [Preview] No.12182 del
>>12176
Those three will still have to accept America to the peace talks or else they'll face retaliation elsewhere. Besides, the burgers still have bargaining chips - their base at the Jordanian border and their SDF allies.

Nonetheless, the course of this war since 2015 has humiliated Western powers and frustrated their ambitions.


Bernd 11/30/2017 (Thu) 13:26:30 [Preview] No.12221 del
Important proofs

https://youtube.com/watch?v=evswKLihqYM [Embed]


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>>12221
>Syria
>pasta factory reaches full capacity

There was a Soviet urban legend about pasta factories, that they would produce bullets in war times. And that most types of pasta has diameter of 7.62 because this.

As far as I know it isn't true though.


Bernd 12/01/2017 (Fri) 06:17:31 [Preview] No.12235 del
>>12234
Are you sure it was pasta?
We have that urban legend about cigarette factories and canneries. The cig's diameter is 7.62 mm, the slim's is 5.56. The smaller can is grenade size, the larger one is 120mm.
Nevertheless it is true or not these urban legend reflects an age when factories were planned for easy change to wartime production.
We also had another aspect in the mix to have a great joge. The socialist regime in it's last two decades closed it's eyes - almost supported - when people "communized" stuff from their workplaces. So a saying emerged: "No matter what I stole from the factory when I assemble it at home, it's a T-34."


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>>12235

Yes, cigarettes were in legend too. There is also versions about buttons (legend says they have autocannon caliber like 20 or 30 mm), vodka bottles (artillery shells) and even soap bricks (same size as some explosives).

I can't remember about canneries and it is look logical - canned food is required even at war as main type of food for soldiers, so these factories wouldn't change main product.

>Nevertheless it is true or not these urban legend reflects an age when factories were planned for easy change to wartime production.

It is true that factories will change production, but you can't actually make bullets on spaghetti- or cigaterre-making machine, and thing about diameters is mostly a lie. Technical process of making cigarette, pasta or bottle is pretty much different than same process for ammunition and related things.

More generic tools of factory will be surely used for war needs, but it isn't easy fast change.

>No matter what I stole from the factory when I assemble it at home, it's a T-34

Yes, same joke exist here.

>people "communized" stuff from their workplaces

And even same term for stealing from work.


Bernd 12/01/2017 (Fri) 13:21:58 [Preview] No.12243 del
>>12235
>when people "communized" stuff from their workplaces
I've heard "luchar" (literally "to fight") is an euphemism for that in Cuba.


Bernd 12/02/2017 (Sat) 07:23:07 [Preview] No.12260 del
>>12236
>thing about diameters is mostly a lie
Mostly not. The cigarette really is 7.62 and the slim is 5.56.
That's been said cigarettes are war materials as well and needs to be produced in wartime.


Bernd 12/04/2017 (Mon) 14:41:06 [Preview] No.12296 del
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Not Syria, but close enough:

https://www.rt.com/news/411854-yemens-ex-president-saleh-killed/

Have the Houthis just shot themselves in the foot?


Bernd 12/04/2017 (Mon) 17:00:42 [Preview] No.12297 del
>>12296
>shot themselves in the foot?
Being the (ex-)leader it's more like a headshot.

>fighters cried "Praise to Allah!"
What an unexpected turn of events.


Bernd 12/04/2017 (Mon) 17:28:49 [Preview] No.12300 del
>>12296
Fuck, should I buy oil and hope for a full scale war in the Gulf?


Bernd 12/04/2017 (Mon) 19:39:17 [Preview] No.12306 del
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>>12302
>doing side deals with Al-Qaeda
Without the knowledge if the US. Very talented person indeed.

>This alliance was as extraordinary and even more cynical as the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact that consummated the deal between Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin, the leaders of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, on the eve of World War Two in 1939.
>The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.


Bernd 12/04/2017 (Mon) 21:23:26 [Preview] No.12308 del
>>12305
It is pretty fun that word "terrorist" is used in this context now. ISIS in Syria couldn't be really called terrorists because full scale rebellion/civil war/insurgency/whatever is not terrorism in original meaning, even if it conducted by organization that supports terror acts abroad. Or you may call Germans from WW2 terrorists too (from Allied point of view).

Looks like American "war on terror" did a good work, now every bad dude is terrorist. Will we see terrorists as nation in future?


Bernd 12/04/2017 (Mon) 23:08:16 [Preview] No.12312 del
>>12308
Technically even Somaliland is a terrorist entity with no legitimacy in the eyes of legalistic "international relations" fags.


Bernd 12/05/2017 (Tue) 17:46:11 [Preview] No.12315 del
>>12308
They just throwing around arbitrary terms in the hope of demonizing the enemy and justifying their own actions in the eye of the public. "Terrorist" is the new Nazi. Well, not really new it's going on for a while now.


Bernd 12/05/2017 (Tue) 23:15:39 [Preview] No.12366 del
>>12315
Ye it's like how Germans called our resistance during WW2 "bandits".


Bernd 12/06/2017 (Wed) 06:09:24 [Preview] No.12373 del
>>12366
Exactly.
Wait. Slovenia had resistance?


Bernd 12/06/2017 (Wed) 08:24:07 [Preview] No.12377 del
>>12373
Yea, coopted by commies. But established separately from general Yugoslav partisans, about a month earlier, and only later internally coup'd by commies.


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Bernd 12/06/2017 (Wed) 16:49:10 [Preview] No.12387 del
>>12385
Great. Now the leftover fighters of those units can swarm into Europe to form terrorist cells.


Bernd 12/06/2017 (Wed) 17:01:48 [Preview] No.12388 del
>>12385
Ebin, however map shows some teritories are still under isis control
syria.liveuamap.com.


Bernd 12/07/2017 (Thu) 17:42:55 [Preview] No.12425 del
http://en.hawarnews.com/sdf-we-salute-the-russian-army-striking-daesh-positions-in-the-east-of-the-euphrates/

What are the Kurds up to? They previously claimed that Russia wasn't operating east of the Euphrates.


Bernd 12/07/2017 (Thu) 18:52:18 [Preview] No.12428 del
>>12425
They probably trying to secure a chair at the conference table so they try to be more cordial with the other concerned parties I guess.


Bernd 12/08/2017 (Fri) 17:26:19 [Preview] No.12448 del
>>12308
>>12315
I've two more thing to add.
An organization can be viewed as terrorist depending how it treats the civilian populace. For example a guerrilla group who (deliberately) attacks civilian targets isn't guerrilla anymore but terrorist.
Then the scale on a group works doesn't really matters. Even states can be considered terrorist if they use terror (inducing crippling fear in the civilians to make them obey, a more or less typical example is Hungary in the first half of the 1950's) on the populace.
So with that in mind I would say ISIS can be called as a terrorist organization.


Bernd 12/08/2017 (Fri) 17:42:14 [Preview] No.12449 del
>>12387
You can blame the EU's forced migration policy for that. Didn't have to happen now did it?


Bernd 12/08/2017 (Fri) 17:44:46 [Preview] No.12450 del
Who wants to be a part of the new "United States of Europe" plan? Anyone... anyone...?


Bernd 12/08/2017 (Fri) 18:10:23 [Preview] No.12451 del
>>12450
Not exactly new. It has some advantages but national identity would suffer on the long run and no basis to form an European identity which could take that place over. Without that there won't be any will in the people to preserve that political unit and this would make it susceptible to foreign attacks. This would be the end of USE some other state/states would form on the ashes assimilating those who left.


Bernd 12/13/2017 (Wed) 13:23:56 [Preview] No.12565 del
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https://www.wired.com/story/terror-industrial-complex-isis-munitions-supply-chain/

KC tier article about the source of ISIS weapons, including its ersatz military industry.


Bernd 12/18/2017 (Mon) 17:51:24 [Preview] No.12628 del
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_4zXI0X8Brc [Embed]
This short film was released few weeks ago. It's about war with isis-related organizations in Philippines.


Bernd 12/18/2017 (Mon) 18:13:28 [Preview] No.12630 del
>>12628
>extraordinary men of courage and determination step up to the challenge and liberate the oppressed
Puked a little.
However I would feed the same to ones who have to do what's necessary. And even feel the same.



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