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Random Questions about the deception Anonymous 12/20/2016 (Tue) 09:15:47 [Preview] No. 1
This board is for all tangential occult discourse.

This thread is an introduction and education into the world of darkness.


Anonymous 12/20/2016 (Tue) 10:54:18 [Preview] No. 3 del
testing spoilers


Anonymous 12/20/2016 (Tue) 19:17:26 [Preview] No. 4 del
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>>3

This board does not necessarily follow any pattern but rather attempts at having the user redpill him/herself naturally with their own intuition.


Anonymous 12/20/2016 (Tue) 19:20:48 [Preview] No. 5 del
Did you make the banner for this board? Are you the Chansonry guy? you're clearly against this masonic shit, I don't think it's such a good idea to use their own symbols like that "m e m e m a g i c" for your board, and why not just name it /chansonry/ or something of the like. The way you have it now will attract /fringe/ people who think it's a pro-occult board


Anonymous 12/20/2016 (Tue) 20:11:49 [Preview] No. 6 del
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>>5
To put it simply this is not meant to be a place that your comforts will be catered to. There is a need for a place for people to explore the extent of the conspiracy. We are going to be focusing on things like cannibalism. The scope and generation capacity of the satanic Breeding people. I want a place where the uncomfortable truths are the subjects of speculation.

Fringe posters are welcome this is horror. Surely there will be some fanatical assumptions. I am making a place to assume the unreasonable until it makes sense. This board will be used to find the chain that links all secret elitist cults. It will be used to see the horror that is everlasting in this occult society. I can not make political assumptions on something that super cedes it. I still have not figured it all out. I do not know everything. I am tuned in on the aspects of these things that are basically horror themes. Malicious predatory fraternal satanism.

It is occult-neutral. I am trying to make sense of the senseless sinister culture. It is not going to be black and white. I am outspoken on my political feeling against fraternal nepotism as elitism. On masonry. This is where the political ideas can take shape. By knowing what is hidden in plain sight.


Anonymous 12/21/2016 (Wed) 11:28:58 [Preview] No. 11 del
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People in the occult try to not talk politics or religion. Satanists try to not talk to each other about religion. What does that tell you? Well I thought now would be a good time to check back on the instagram cultist from earlier this year. bliss god. I found some disturbing things. First of all this individual has taken photos at the supreme council at nighttime. INSIDE. This guy was being shown to be using instagram to connect with fellow satanists. Months before the whole pizagate instagrams and he has posted photos of the supreme council ritual initiation room. This is huge considering this is from someone claiming a woman on instagram was abusing his children in a satanic and SPECIFICALLY MASONIC CULT.

@bliss_g_o_d @gutgerard @syferrothsmagick @47x59
4 accounts still up related to this cult.
https://www.instagram.com/gutgerard
Appears to be exactly what I had said this was in chansonry thread 5. A prince hall implementation. So this is the ghetto pizzagate. These people make mistakes all the time. They are trying to seem like the illuminati yet post specific oto and masonic symbols that are offputting and cultist. I think black people are still going with this because they are told its the path of kings literally. Its more than a joke its the destruction of the natural black person. There culture now relies on this masonic "gang street life". Its fucking pathetic. https://www.instagram.com/gutgerard

This is EXACTLY THE SAME MONSTER. THIS IS THE FRUITION OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA CULTISTS> FREEMASONRY IS THE CHARLES MANSON MEGAPHONE THAT ONLY THE INITIATES OR PEOPLE WHO THINK ITS THE MAFIA CAN HEAR,

pic related. bliss god has been to the place where they give out the 33rd degree. He was assumed to be a hindu sort of clandestine prince hall mason. He may be a black cultist.


Anonymous 12/21/2016 (Wed) 12:00:42 [Preview] No. 12 del
>>11
Yep this is the same old song and dance. This hand holding picture is officially strange.
This has to be a pedo thing. The handshake is a token of masonry this is fucking creepy. Especially it looks like this is a black guy's Instagram. a prince hall mason posting this photo says a lot.
https://archive.is/DG1fj


Anonymous 12/21/2016 (Wed) 14:15:05 [Preview] No. 13 del
I named this horror because the pizzagate showed how easily the cultists bother people. I hate it the way the cultist act. But you must remember it gets so mych worse. We are gonna have to well. Here we go let me just blow this out of the water. Pizza is a code word for masonry. Masonry is the controlled act of violence without repercussion.

You think I am grasping at straws? Hwere is more of the masonic pizza gas-lighting. Masons love saying things that you do not understand. That is what it is all about. That and the controlled act of violence without repercussion. Yes. This is real. I am naming the board horror because of how scary this is to people who do not get it.

Here are some never before known links
http://tofo.me/thepizzamonster1
https://www.instagram.com/pizzatowels/
https://www.instagram.com/allthispizza/
https://www.instagram.com/pza_314/
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/pieordie/
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/pizzalover/
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/pizzagram/
http://www.pizzaluminati.com/blog-spot.html
https://archive.is/p5Xxu
https://archive.is/WvLih
https://archive.is/GWMZj
https://archive.is/eLvLl
https://archive.is/X2Ozi
https://archive.is/hmZv9
https://archive.is/dZsN3
https://archive.is/hrWnA
https://archive.is/BYF30
https://archive.is/jYtgX
https://archive.is/ljRl0
https://archive.is/BQcgn
https://archive.is/SINbi
https://archive.is/SwMrt


Anonymous 12/24/2016 (Sat) 10:25:37 [Preview] No. 15 del
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I believe I saw something like this some exposing this film. I can not be the first person to connect monsters inc to the pedophile elites?
Not sure. It is obvious though. Monsters inc was satanic ritual abuse. Literally preying on fear. These demons come in and scare the children. This shit goes deep.


Anonymous 12/31/2016 (Sat) 02:01:09 [Preview] No. 160 del
Minecraft is the stabilizer. The purpose of the minecraft psyop is to AstroTurf the comprehension and spatial perception of the player. You are a black person in a block world pov. You begin to see things as cubits of proportion. Your memory is spacial. Ask Cicero. Minecraft is used to neuter the creative potential in humans. This is by reducing the perspective to primitive blocks.data-grams that correspond to the cookie cutter cosmology of popular culture.
it is supposed to be like a humble geeky escape. The real social manipulation is being utilized with mandatory memetics. Minecraft is a psyop only if it is a social hierarchy. the leaders of the minecraft thought-form are abstractions. They keep their followers chasing their carrot of lolsorandumb funny abstract videos that is the opposite effect of adapting to the game itself. You are not suppose to understand this though you do naturally. MInecraft is Masonic boyfucking blotting out of creativity.


Anonymous 12/31/2016 (Sat) 02:16:12 [Preview] No. 161 del
Would you say the same is true about the whole digital paradigm, even before minecraft - i.e. your computer screen, any and ALL video games such as the old ones with pixel art etc.


Anonymous 12/31/2016 (Sat) 02:19:25 [Preview] No. 162 del
Are all computer/internet/video game users of the old/retro kind actually occult programmed to destroy the analog nature of creativity?

Is this the cause of autism? People who grew up playing older 2d/pixel based games?


Anonymous 12/31/2016 (Sat) 02:21:42 [Preview] No. 163 del
>>161
>>162
No, Video games has nothing to do with this.


Anonymous 12/31/2016 (Sat) 02:24:15 [Preview] No. 164 del
>>163
I'm just thinking about your first line about minecraft forcing the player to view the world in pixels/blocks... doesn't the same apply to video games in general specifically older ones with limited pixel art (which I enjoy, but I notice how "retro" look is being pushed by modern SJW indie scene).

And more broadly the whole change to digital from analog (digital TV, music etc)


Anonymous 12/31/2016 (Sat) 02:26:54 [Preview] No. 165 del
>>164
Probably just Minecraft, (((Notch))) shilled in /v/ and was then laughed off the board, so he attempt to subvert vidya.


Anonymous 12/31/2016 (Sat) 05:45:46 [Preview] No. 169 del
>>161
I thought of that particularly about mine-craft. The entire re-implementation of the Lego prototype. There are many different types of video games but this mine-craft obsession is more of a psyop than anything.
>>164
no because with Pokemon it was still an imagination thing. you would become the poke-master. this is not nostalgia there was a storyline and they implemented character arcs and such. With mine-craft it is this blank slate that the player graphs out their insecurities onto.


Anonymous 12/31/2016 (Sat) 05:50:32 [Preview] No. 170 del
>>169
> blank slate that the player graphs out their insecurities onto.

So you think any game that involves open-world customization is inherently evil? You seem to be saying that something with a set storyline (like pokemon, or any TV show) is somehow more creative whereas a "sandbox" game is anti-creative. I see ample reason to see Minecraft specifically as a psyop (namely its connection to Microsoft Research and the VR stuff they're pushing) but your reasoning for why doesn't make much sense.

There have been many games focusing on customization and crafting, and without a set storyline, long before minecraft existed.


Anonymous 12/31/2016 (Sat) 21:38:16 [Preview] No. 172 del
>>170
It ia not a definite thing. With things like the sims you could aggregate data about trends and all kinds of psychological data. What I am seeing with the minecraft is a neutering of creativity. It may just be an aversion to the imagery. Or this platform is being caudled to allow the creation of mini safe spaces. You could say all video games are a deception. Especially role playing games and even things like dungeons and dragons. Magic. Each franchise is a different agenda. Assasins creed is all about becoming the bad-guy. its also an illusion of more potential. In assasins creed you can climb up the walls. But you have to do it as a mason so it is false freedom.


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 03:46:29 [Preview] No. 219 del
This is more of a metacomplaint statement followed by a question: I think /pol/ is saturated with pro paganism by one or two pagan nincompoops, what is your opinion about it?


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 04:54:31 [Preview] No. 220 del
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>>219
I see this fascination and elaborate display of paganism as pageantry. When atheism is no longer satisfying the heretic will humor pagan ideals. The heretic will make graven images out of his own procrastination. This is guided by the Egyptian mystery tradition that is mandated as the mystical frame of society.This is a fusion of all faith present in /pol/. The saturation is not of paganism in my opinion. Rather varying degrees of luciferianism and varying degrees of Christianity. As well as agnosticism, gnostic mysticism , atheists, Talmudist, Hindi and muslim cult ideals, zionist christian aswell as zionists, and even humanists.

The mystical bar has been raised to the point we see many people looking at pepe as their own personal yoda. They see pepe, they call it kek. They say a kabbalistic shadilay sort of token. These people will genuflect for kek but deflect from pepe. then they tell you shadilay and they are on their way to another discussion.They are not fully consciously doing this. Yet they still post this shit.It is a complete maypole scamper. These mysticized pagans have used the mode of memetics to inflect the atmosphere with unusual merriment. This is used as the astrological worship via the masks of the nations. The races of people and the different cultures. The international blending of culture. These are simply masks and costumes to be used as needed. These thought-forms are really fertility rituals for the saturation of this pageantry. This is through paganism. They would rather worship the trees than the god that made the earth in 7 days. They want to play in the sandbox of heretical excuse. It ultimately will be used to divide and later to destroy both sides. Ultimately the nhilists and the pagan/atheists will either form as one side; destroy each other; or there will be some herding and mashing of these things into a diabolic atavistic sort of pseudo religion. That is the new world religion essentially.

the point is paganism is not liberating or any kind of salvation. rather it is used to slide further into occultism or to claim the pagan way. The pagan way is essentially this squatters rights that pagans think they have. They want to pretend to be picking berries in the forest of thought. Then they want to call this a religion. Its a deception.

Paganism is not sacred. It is not particularly a beacon of white culture either, It is one of the main tools to herd minds in this occult deception. It is a lot like wicca. Oh its white paganism. Oh its earth magic. No it is masonic trash. This is something that once understood only promulgated by the dark anons. In that respect I maintain my opinion that the paganism is but pageantry for the dark occultists.


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 05:16:11 [Preview] No. 221 del
>>220
>pageantry
Wikipedia showed me a modern word for it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procession

>7 days
6 days.

What do you agree and disagree in this: https://opc.org/GA/masonry.html


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 05:37:12 [Preview] No. 222 del
oh BTW, thanks for your opinion, by /pol/ I meant the one in endchan since I think there's been an "pre-exodus" of blatant anti genuine Christian, pro pagan "green pilled" people ever since the TRS crap which those people ends up forming a meta complaint derailing of the original topic of the thread against Jesus and calling him a rabbi, kike on a stick, etc., which really made me stop posting in /pol/ altogether instead of trying to defend against such braindead people and honestly, I suspect some of them being actual Jews or from one of many terrible boards that gets named for deliberately creating trouble yet again by their sheer hatred towards those that seek an unJewed Christianity which they use Jewish arguments when that won't be allowed when it's done to their Nazi-Sozi principles.

I'll ask more questions after you answer the one in >>221


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 09:37:38 [Preview] No. 224 del
>>221
Agree
>membership in the Masonic fraternity is inconsistent with Christianity.
>Masonry is a religious institution and as such is definitely anti-Christian.
>Christianity glories in being the one truly universal religion. Masonry would rob Christianity of this glory and appropriate it to itself.
>Christianity lays claim to the only true God, the God of the Bible, and denounces all other Gods as idols. Masonry recognizes the Gods of all religions.
>Christianity claims to have the only true book, the Bible. Masonry places this book on a par with the sacred books of other religions.
>Masonry also lays claim to universalism, but its universalism differs radically from that of Christianity in that it denies Christian particularism and exclusivism.
>Masonry claims to be the essence of all religions. It guards the most ancient esoteric worship. It aims at a universal religion on the basis of the religious aspirations of man.
>Neutrality with reference to Christianity is an obvious impossibility. Either Masonry as a religion is in agreement with Christianity, or it must be at odds with Christianity. Either it is Christian, or it must be anti-Christian

disagree
>The Christian way of salvation is supernatural. But the Masonic way of salvation is naturalistic.

Obulation is a debt of blood. Blood redemption. Paying with blood. Blood sacrifices of lambs on a pentagram. This is a religious cult belief that is abnormal and not naturalistic. Then the royal secret has its redemption.the blood is the life. And one can live forever through sexually abusing children and murdering children. That is paranormal psychotic and frankly terrorist ideals.

>What seems frivolous to an outsider may in actuality not be so at all to the initiate.
>in actuality

In actuality frivolousness is not something that can be measured.


>. Just now the committee contends merely that the taking of an oath is not to be condemned under any and all circumstances. The Westminster Confession of Faith states that "a lawful oath, being imposed by lawful authority, in such matters, ought to be taken"

biblically we are instructed to make no oaths.

>To be sure, in certain circumstances secrecy is sinful, but it may not be said that secrecy is evil in every instance.

If it is not evil it ultimately is selfish which is a sin. secrecy is what one does without the ability to be held accountable. If it is a sekrit it is a shield of evil.

>Reliable information concerning all points of major importance, and concerning many others that are not important, is accessible to any who will make a proper study of the matter.

Local and regional landmarks(tokens passwords guestures etc) can not be categorically indexed by any reliable source. Neither can membership rosters be accessed with any sort of consistency. Also there is no point where the allegory ends its interpretations.


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 10:11:30 [Preview] No. 225 del
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>>222
I feel much the same way with Christianity and the current state of culture. I have seen firsthand how these waves of bullshit start. I honestly may have started the defeatist meme when I told 8/pol/ to keep their eyes peeled for anyone that just is a defeatist. That is what all of the cointelpro had in common. They would approach a thread as 2 feuding or arguing posters. Their goal was to alienate the masonic aspect from the threads they came into. That is one approach. The main one is to whine about getting off topic. Sometimes that is very valid. But the shills love to abuse that and will always remind you that you are disrupting their bait thread as planned.. And it really has had an effect on self censorship. Still I feel like there is this bullshit untold law that you are not supposed to talk about the masons. This is reinforced every single fucking time I do this. there is strong reactions to masonry. One of the main reflex's is to set up false dichotomies to enforce their cultism. We can see this with the assumption that masonry and kikery are seperate entities. That is simply not true. The truth is there is a lot of kikery in masonry and a lot of cult behaviour within the jewish cabal. The jewish cabal directs the global masonic apperatus via the jewish masonic faction. The bottom line is there is no secrets in christianity. These people want depopulation. Georgia R.C Rosicrucian guidstones 500k capacity. The freemasons and the jews want to murder every person on the planet and we are the bad guys. Do not give them an inch anon.


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 10:34:55 [Preview] No. 226 del
>>224
>membership in the Masonic fraternity is inconsistent with Christianity.
How so?
>Masonry is a religious institution
False. It has no religious dogma, no specified belief. It requires men to be of their own religion to join.
>Masonry claims to be the essence of all religions.
No it doesn't. Misguided commentators say shit like that in the [Christian] values it espouses, is all.
>Either Masonry as a religion is in agreement with Christianity, or it must be at odds with Christianity.
Or it's not a religion, and as such says nothing about Christianity, or any other belief.
>biblically we are instructed to make no oaths.
False. The Bible says not to make false or unnecessary oaths, or those which allow you to skive out of duty.


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 14:06:16 [Preview] No. 227 del
>>226
>How so?
Because the fact that they're worshiping Lucifer can be deduced both from their own writing and language of symbols? Because it's a criminal organisation supportive and directly involved eg. in child sexual slavery? Because advancing through degrees of illumination and goal of self ascension is simply inconceivable under Christian salvation through faith (and here I have to exclude Catholicism from Christianity as well).

>False. It has no religious dogma, no specified belief. It requires men to be of their own religion to join.
It starts like that but doesn't stay that way. That is the whole purpose of degrees of initiation. You aren't exposed to the deeper themes until you get your hands dirty enough or become so reliant you have no other way than to submit.
Even if you were only to take belief that man can attain godhood through the use of intelect into consideration it is very much a dogma.

>No it doesn't. Misguided commentators say shit like that in the [Christian] values it espouses, is all.
What if I were to find such admissions in writings of Manly P. Hall or Albert Pike? I don't have quotes on me and at the moment I don't have time to search for it, maybe someone else could provide them.

>Or it's not a religion, and as such says nothing about Christianity, or any other belief.
Even if you're thinking at "humanist" level you don't need to have a deity for a movement to be considered a religion. Freemasonry is a religion, a continuation of one of the oldest and most twisted traditions of Mystery Schools. Just look at all their rituals, sure isn't philosophy if you ask me.
They do so hate Christians and Christianity because they see it as a profane perversion of their 'pure' teaching.

>The Bible says not to make false or unnecessary oaths, or those which allow you to skive out of duty.
Read this passage:
"Again, you have heard that it was said to the ancients, ‘Do not break your oath, but fulfill your vows to the Lord.’ But I tell you not to swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; or by the earth, for it is His footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. Nor should you swear by your head, for you cannot make a single hair white or black."
And tell me where you find what you claim. You're perhaps referring to how it was regulated in OT but here Jesus corrects that.



You've said so many ignorant things that I'd advise you to get some education on the subject. Here are three most relevant parts of Mystery Babylon audition by Bill Cooper but I'd recommend you eventually hear all the episodes or read through transcript.


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 17:08:42 [Preview] No. 228 del
>>227
>Because the fact that they're worshiping Lucifer can be deduced both from their own writing and language of symbols?
Can it? Where?
>Because it's a criminal organisation supportive and directly involved eg. in child sexual slavery?
Source?
>Because advancing through degrees of illumination and goal of self ascension is simply inconceivable under Christian salvation through faith
Good thing that's not in any of the degrees?
>and here I have to exclude Catholicism from Christianity as well).
Yea, figured you'd be that ridiculous.
>It starts like that but doesn't stay that way.
Aight. What degree does it become like you allege?
>Even if you were only to take belief that man can attain godhood through the use of intelect into consideration
Again, what degree are you pretending that's from.
>What if I were to find such admissions in writings of Manly P. Hall or Albert Pike?
Well Hall wouldn't matter because he wasn't a Mason when he wrote his books, and Pike doesn't really say anything like that. Pretty sure Ward and someone like him says what you allege, but they say it in the misguided mystical crap sense.
>Even if you're thinking at "humanist" level you don't need to have a deity for a movement to be considered a religion
"Religion is a cultural system of behaviors and practices, world views, sacred texts, holy places, ethics, and societal organisation that relate humanity to what an anthropologist has called "an order of existence"."
So not Masonry?
>Freemasonry is a religion, a continuation of one of the oldest and most twisted traditions of Mystery Schools.
In the broadest sense, it's a continuation of Pythagorean schools in a Christian setting. But it's not like there's any kind of pedigree.
>Just look at all their rituals, sure isn't philosophy if you ask me.
Uh, you might want to look at the rituals, because it is explicitly philosophy. Like, that's all it is.
>They do so hate Christians and Christianity because they see it as a profane perversion of their 'pure' teaching.
Source? And that's pretty funny to allege of an organisation which started out purely Christian, and is still over 90% so.
>Read this passage:
Yea? That's exactly what i was referring to. It says "Don't make promises you know you can't keep. And don't promise on things which aren't yours."

>You've said so many ignorant things that I'd advise you to get some education on the subject.
Lol.
>Here are three most relevant parts of Mystery Babylon audition by Bill Cooper
>education
Lol some more.


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 17:13:46 [Preview] No. 229 del
If i were a mason...
I would build every bridge with dynamite

If i were a mason...
I would spook those who're on it
and cut the ties when time is nice

If i were a mason...
I'd eliminate original competition
cus without it there's no fruition

If i were a mason...
I'd like to make all part of it,
like it or not u gonna play my games neat

If i were a mason i would wish to be A-Z of it.

Let profane learn the power of word thru pain, yo (moaning).

dat beeet, yo.
Das rite, nigga!


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 17:32:27 [Preview] No. 230 del
>>224
Yeah, I agree with the general rebuttal of what you disagree about the OPC's understanding of Freemasonry, but I have then another question, should churches practice the four SECs? OPSEC, PERSEC, COMSEC, INFOSEC? Another question, do you approve of ethical whistleblowers (as opposed to blackmailing whistleblowers)?

BTW, I have a static IP address for the most part, it haven't changed for well over two years but should it ever change while I'm in this thread, I'll make myself clear as to which "anon" you're talking to.

It seems like that same stupid mason that does damage control in /pol/ is posting here.

FYI, /x/ had been wiped out and supposedly been replaced with another BO.


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 17:34:21 [Preview] No. 231 del
>>228
>In the broadest sense, it's a continuation of Pythagorean schools in a Christian setting. But it's not like there's any kind of pedigree.
DUDE, so it's republic? Why didn't you motherfuckers say so? Discipline is enough innit? Are there any major rivals?

>Uh, you might want to look at the rituals, because it is explicitly philosophy. Like, that's all it is.
You aren't really releasing this shit, are you.


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 17:37:52 [Preview] No. 232 del
>>231
>DUDE, so it's republic?
No, not at all. It espouses monarchy, mostly.
>Discipline is enough innit?
Sure?
>Are there any major rivals?
Naw, Masonry isn't really about anything which could require rivalry. The whole premise is, "We've taken Biblical morality and Graeco-Roman/British science, so go forth and learn so that you might help your kith and kin."
>You aren't really releasing this shit, are you.
Que?


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 17:49:02 [Preview] No. 233 del
>>232
>No, not at all. It espouses monarchy, mostly.
What i meant is the two fingers thing, with a philosopher on top.

>discipline
That's the point of being religious b4 joining?

>Naw, Masonry isn't really about anything which could require rivalry.
So... you're self-pecking, lol?

>Que?
The rituals are super secret and aren't released openly, ever.


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 17:53:23 [Preview] No. 234 del
>>233
>What i meant is the two fingers thing, with a philosopher on top.
Sorry, still not getting it?
>That's the point of being religious b4 joining?
Naw, that's from the idea that an atheist has no reason to be trusted or considered aspirational. And a lot of Masonry is telling you to be dutiful to your religion, because the church is one of the twin pillars of good society.
>So... you're self-pecking, lol?
Yes, but probably not in the way you're thinking.
>The rituals are super secret and aren't released openly, ever.
http://www.lewismasonic.co.uk/ritual/


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 18:07:15 [Preview] No. 235 del
>>234

>Sorry, still not getting it?
Philosopher king.

>Yes, but probably not in the way you're thinking.
Heart sacrifice? Atma?

>http://www.lewismasonic.co.uk/ritual/
lol, what about taxil?

You're totally Phoenician.


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 18:09:29 [Preview] No. 236 del
>>235
>Philosopher king.
Sure.
>Heart sacrifice? Atma?
Wut.
>lol, what about taxil?
What about him? He was a professional bullshitter.


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 18:18:42 [Preview] No. 237 del
>>236
Baphomet is the philosopher king, both genders aka both hands, with the star in the head. Pure altruism. Sun and moon.
Is he going to control the spirits, or is his spirit getting controlled? Or both?

>Wut.
Oh cmon, that's getting silly.


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 21:00:29 [Preview] No. 238 del
>>237
As I've said in >>230 I really think you've been talking to the same mason in /pol/, he pretends to hate the Jews but really gives a blind eye towards the Kabbalistic origins of his mindsets that pretend to be "Pythagorean" and "Neoplatonic" when they are neither, except Aristotelian which Aristotle didn't believe that there is any form of good or evil because the only thing that exists were atoms (Aristotle was an atomist) so he then postulates that there is no soul either. The Sumerian Egyptian Babylonian Zidonian Zoroastrian Rabbinic Gnostic Theosophy misrepresent any and all religions that they pick and choose from except the religions that did just that in syncretizing different characters of different religions to be one and the same narrative. They are very dishonest in the eyes of real honest scholars (the ones that aren't pushing a false narrative) and by whatever expert from whatever religion that they cut and paste from random bits and places to make it appear to be the same. Atomistic thinking leads to many vain conclusions that is comparable with Kabbalistic thinking, and justifies evils like "natural slavery" as an example. I don't think that Pythagorean and Platonic teachings are properly represented by many of the translators out there while most of the stuff about them ironically have nothing to do with them, but pretends to use philosophy to justify things that can't be justified by a real person. Philosophy is really where psychology gets half of its bullshit from, the other half being from Jews and cultists. Any system that allows bullshitting is dangerous to everyone inside and outside of the system and are in direct opposition to the Absolute truth and order that is the Triune God.

By the way, many "scholars" claim that Baphomet is Mahomet, just that the Templars learned the wrong pronunciation and spelling, which is a weird theory, since the Templars also learned the truth about Islam being a creation of the Vatican which they asked the Pope about it since they could had stopped the crusades since they were essentially compatible to each other, but the Pope wanted to have them fight off the Muslims anyways. The second time the Templars met these people was as the Jesuit Order in collaborating with the hashashins (assassins) that they've adopted their checks and balances system which was later used to set up the US military system and is also have interesting parallels to the US government's checks and balances as well. Look into the things that Jim Arrabito had learned from former Jesuit Priest Alberto Rivera, although Alberto gets some things wrong like the spanish inquisition (persecuted very few Converso Jews within a span of a century) and the holohoax, even eschatology, there isn't much information generally out there concerning the inner workings of the Jesuit Order except for those Anti Jesuit books that I've mentioned to you before.


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 23:28:40 [Preview] No. 239 del
Yet again I've pulled myself into a retarded overly lengthy discussion that will accomplish nothing but shit happens, here we go.

>>227
>Can it? Where?
Let's start with Pike. He identifies Typhon as Satan of Gnostics, the Demiurge while fawning over Osiris, the Sun, principle of good, light and whatever. Gnostics are pretty open about worshipping Lucifer, not in a BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD sense perhaps but still.
Sun is the central figure of freemasonic doctrine. Pike correctly identified it with Osiris, Mithras, Baal, Apollo, Adonis, Bacchus, Thor and some others. It's all lightbringing flame of intellect the morning star (either Sun or Venus both work) the cubical stone: Lucifer otherwise know as black sun Saturn. Now showing each and individual link through writing will be somewhat hard but if you want to move into symbolism I'll brobably be able to substantiate that in several posts if you want me to.
First however it needs to be understood that Freemasonry is not a solitary, unique fraternity but one of the many Mystery Schools sharing esoterically their doctrine and themes with great many cults around the world (Pike done that job for me here because he already identified Sun with various characters from multiple traditions).

>Source?
Gotta check my "pedowood" folder. Will take some time, until then or until someone else delivers you can disregard that.

>Yea, figured you'd be that ridiculous.
Yea that Vatican Basilica just so happened to have same features as freemasonic architecture (masculine obelisk in context of feminine dome). Look this is a wide subject that would need not only separate post but a separate thread. Constantine didn't convert because he built the statue of Apollo and there's mithraic stank all over catholic priesthood. If you want to say that Freemasonry is about as Christian as Catholicism then I'll totally agree.

>Good thing that's not in any of the degrees?
Maybe but consider "Apotheosis of George Washington". That's but a cherry on top of cake.

>Aight. What degree does it become like you allege?
I'd reckon after the blue lodge but I don't think there's a rule to it other than the final(?) revelations of 33th degree.

>Again, what degree are you pretending that's from.
I guess about 33th. Do you suppose everything about freemasonic doctrine and purpose is described in requirements for particular degrees?

>Well Hall wouldn't matter because he wasn't a Mason when he wrote his books, and Pike doesn't really say anything like that
Did Hall reject his statements after becoming a mason? As for Pike here's something I just found sniffing around for "lucifer" in Morals and Dogma:
"for traditions are full of
Divine Revelations and Inspirations: and Inspiration is not of
one Age nor of one Creed. Plato and Philo, also, were inspired" Morals and Dogma 19th to 23 Degree
So Pike claims there's a common thread of 'inspiration' among writings of philosophers and sages around the world that is properly understood only by the initiates. Who do you suppose he means by that if not Freemasons? Maybe he even stated that somewhere in that book, I'd have to check. From that little example alone it can be concluded that Freemasonry does claim to hold the essence of all, or at least most of religions.

>So not Masonry?
Everything that definition requires fits for me. Maybe I'll write another post just for that.

>In the broadest sense, it's a continuation of Pythagorean schools in a Christian setting.
And Pythagoras was a phoenician/greek who got initiated into egyptian Mysteries. That "Christian setting" is a set of exoteric stories to occult the purpose of the organisation.

>But it's not like there's any kind of pedigree.
Not directly from Pythagoras but rather through Templars (pdf related), Rosicrucians and Alchemists. It's all the same themes realised at times in slightly different symbolism.


Anonymous 01/07/2017 (Sat) 23:29:49 [Preview] No. 240 del
>>239 wrongly adressed, should be to
>>228
>because it is explicitly philosophy
Stoning someone with black cubes isn't philosophy. Grand Master sitting in east side of the temple isn't a damn philosophy either. Circumambulation isn't a philosophical statement but a veneration of the Sun in form of worshipful imitation.

>Source?
I don't know if I can find anything specific from Freemason from my memory but something about that will either be in Bailey or Blavatsky when talking about the work of the destroyer that isn't evil and basically that unitiated will have to be killed to 'reincarnate' into completed NWO. Theosophy is another branch of Mystery Schools, their goal is roughly the same.

>And that's pretty funny to allege of an organisation which started out purely Christian and is still over 90% so.
As Christian as Catholicism itself. Publicly, exoterically displayed faith doesn't matter. Freemasonry has nothing to do with Christianity understood as following the teachings of Jesus and belief in him being the Christ.


>It says "Don't make promises you know you can't keep
No, that was the message of the quote from OT after which Jesus proceeds to explain you shouldn't swear at all because of how nil of a control over your own life you actually have.

>lol lol some more
Not an argument. Cooper did a great job, provided multitude of sources, all in all put out a thoroughly researched set of auditions.

You are severely undereducated on these matters. Either that or you've been misled. Either way you have a lot to learn.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 02:18:27 [Preview] No. 241 del
>>219
>>220
>>222
>Christcuckity
Go back to Masonchan.
/(((christian)))/ openly condemns racism
https://archive.is/idCob


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 02:24:13 [Preview] No. 242 del
>>241
>telling Christians including the BO to go back to 8chan
No you gotta go back to Reddit.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 07:57:45 [Preview] No. 243 del
>>230
/x/ was deleted shortly after this post, interestingly enough.

masons use the following to weaken your thinking and dull your mind:

primary - fear of unknown, futility and anxiety.
secondary - compulsions and addictions.

this leads to a sense of dread, doubt and uncertainty.

that is done to create disorder and push people to act against their own interests.
they typically provide an incentive or a bait to accept whatever change they want to make.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 07:59:32 [Preview] No. 244 del
>>238
>he pretends to hate the Jews
>pretends
And what's wrong with Qabbala?
>pretend to be "Pythagorean" and "Neoplatonic" when they are neither
It's both and neither. The system developed out of operative guilds, rather than taking from actual mystery schools. So the influence of them came much later.
>Atomistic thinking leads to many vain conclusions that is comparable with Kabbalistic thinking, and justifies evils like "natural slavery" as an example.
What makes you say that?

>By the way, many "scholars" claim that Baphomet is Mahomet
Yea, probably isn't. Much more likely it was Abu Fiama(t), since it seems they might have been Johannite Christians.
>since the Templars also learned the truth about Islam being a creation of the Vatican
Lolokay.

>>239
>Let's start with Pike.
Figured you would, rather than anything more appropriate.
>Sun is the central figure of freemasonic doctrine.
Is it? I mean, it's mentioned, but not much.
>Pike correctly identified it with Osiris, Mithras, Baal, Apollo, Adonis, Bacchus, Thor
>correctly
Osiris and Apollo are the only correct associations there.
>Yea that Vatican Basilica just so happened to have same features as freemasonic architecture
You're putting the cart before the horse.
>If you want to say that Freemasonry is about as Christian as Catholicism
I don't. It's Christian, but is no longer a Christian organisation. It's a scientific organisation which just happens to have a Christian focus.
>Maybe but consider "Apotheosis of George Washington"
Why would I? It's just a piece of art done by overly zealous Americans.
>I'd reckon after the blue lodge
There is no after the [Craft Lodge]. Most of the side degrees are Christian only, yes, but they still espouse no dogma.
>I guess about 33th.
Not according to the rituals.
>Do you suppose everything about freemasonic doctrine and purpose is described in requirements for particular degrees?
Yea. That and the Constitutions. Anything other than that is commentary, and shouldn't be taken for gospel.
>Did Hall reject his statements after becoming a mason?
Not sure. But still doesn't make his pre-Masonic writings an authority.
>As for Pike here's something I just found sniffing around for "lucifer" in Morals and Dogma
So you googled it out of context?
>Who do you suppose he means by that if not Freemasons?
He means the common thread which """"supposedly"""" became Freemasonry. Ie. not accurate info.
>From that little example alone it can be concluded that Freemasonry does claim
No no, PIKE does claim. Not Freemasonry.
>Everything that definition requires fits for me.
It shouldn't, because none of that could be applied to the Craft.
>Not directly from Pythagoras but rather through Templars (pdf related), Rosicrucians and Alchemists.
Obviously not the Templars, but yes, RCs could be said to have transferred to Freemasonry. Still doesn't make for pedigree back, as much as some Masons would like to pretend it does.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 07:59:49 [Preview] No. 245 del
>>240
>Stoning someone with black cubes isn't philosophy.
That's not what that means. Blackballing someone is a vote. Not bludgeoning.
>Grand Master sitting in east side of the temple isn't a damn philosophy either. Circumambulation isn't a philosophical statement
Sounds like you don't understand philosophy.
>but a veneration of the Sun in form of worshipful imitation.
It's imitation, but not veneration. Again, it makes a philosophical point.
It's also why in some degrees, it's done differently.
>but something about that will either be in Bailey or Blavatsky
So not Masonry? Pretty sure Theosophy doesn't hate Christianity either. But i've only been to one of their open meetings.
>Freemasonry has nothing to do with Christianity understood as following the teachings of Jesus and belief in him being the Christ.
Well, all the morality it espouses comes from the NT, so there's that. It's just in most places no longer restricted to Christians.
>after which Jesus proceeds to explain you shouldn't swear at all because of how nil of a control over your own life you actually have.
You might want to have another read of the Bible, because even taking it out of context as you are, it doesn't really say that.
>Cooper did a great job, provided multitude of sources
Lol, he took spurious sources, led them to state conclusions he fabricated, and gave a very one sided view of everything.
>You are severely undereducated on these matters.
lmao@ur life


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 08:09:21 [Preview] No. 246 del
>>242
>Christkike triggered that there are whites who don't worship (((Rabbi Ben Yeshuha)))
>being a huge newfag you don't know 4chon existed.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 08:34:22 [Preview] No. 247 del
>>237
Baphomet is lucifer. The plan is to get rid of the father, leaving son to deal with the holy spirit. That's the whole point of this gnostic, neo-platonic crap, where after much contemplation neo-platonist declares that We created ourselves and not someone else created us.
Remember that the son is god, as well as the father, so the god remains just without authority of the father. This is the essence of Kantian "enlightenment (lucifer is light)" where "we grew up from the nonage and can decide for ourselves". This also coincides with the idea of the king of the world, aka god emperor, aka baphomet.
IMHO, this is just a stage, before the more important part, where they will say that this god-emperor is the anti-christ, thus uniting (globalism) the whole planet under a single goal - to destroy the oppressor (scapegoat, makes perfect sense considering that baphomet is a goat!). Note how most of the entertainment industry, loads the mind with the instinctual idea to rebel, no matter what odds or disregarding thinking ahead. The matrix movie is the best brainwasher out there. It even features the zion thing, messiah and other crap.

It's all just masonic mind tricks.
see >>243 basically


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 08:43:30 [Preview] No. 248 del
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>>245
>Theosophy doesn't hate Christianity either
Dion Fortune joined the Theosophical Society, but split from them on believing that they undermined the importance of Jesus as an Ascended Master.

Now, explain to me why you want to go beyond the two pillars?


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 08:51:13 [Preview] No. 249 del
>>243
Add exhaustion and fatigue to the list. Secondary.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 08:56:18 [Preview] No. 250 del
>>249
Just like this new prolific poster on /pol/ who's spamming every single thread with saying everything is Jewish, including christianity, (all) white people, all of western civilization from the beginning, etc, but mention masonry or anything like you just said and he turns into "alex jones shitposting" mode or accuses you of being a "trumpnigger" even if you don't even support Trump whatsoever


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 09:18:20 [Preview] No. 251 del
>>244
>And what's wrong with Qabbala?
It's a map of your endocrine system.
Practicing this shit turns you into a retard.
Also sethian and gnostic, thus luciferian.

The endocrine system is important, because it influences your body for very long periods of time.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 09:22:44 [Preview] No. 252 del
>>247
>Baphomet is lucifer.
Only if that's your belief. Lucifer isn't a name, after all. And "Baphomet" is only what the individual thinks it is at this point.

>>248
I can't speak with any authority on it. Only have a cursory understanding of the group.

>>251
>It's a map of your endocrine system.
I've heard that belief. Not sure i subscribe to it.
>Also sethian and gnostic, thus luciferian.
Those are three very different things. Luciferian just means seeking knowledge.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 10:00:44 [Preview] No. 253 del
>>252
>"Baphomet" is only what the individual thinks it is at this point.
"King, judge, destroyer, chaos."
Child of philosophy, cutting the origin of philosophy.

>I've heard that belief. Not sure i subscribe to it.
Picrelated. It's interesting, that fear is described in testicles, which is one of our strongest and essential earthly (animal, animal means a creature with a soul, animated, animus) feelings, what grounds us to earth. Note that shiva and crowley have that leopard thing on their shoulder, which shows fearlessness and victory over your own ANIMAL (soul) nature.
Kabbalah is just a method of psychic (psyche=soul=ego=personality=who one is) control, without outer (or inner) authority, "enlightenment".

>Those are three very different things. Luciferian just means seeking knowledge.
No, gnosis also means knowledge. Seth is the author of kabbalah, thus author of THE knowledge.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 10:30:58 [Preview] No. 254 del
>>253
>"King, judge, destroyer, chaos."
As I said, if that's what you want to assign the name to, that's your business. Doesn't apply to others, though.
>No, gnosis also means knowledge.
Ayup. But there are scores of different schools taking the name "Gnostic."
>Seth is the author of kabbalah
Maybe according to "Sethians", but pretty sure Moses was the first one to do it.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 10:55:36 [Preview] No. 255 del
>>254
>As I said, if that's what you want to assign the name to, that's your business. Doesn't apply to others, though.
I get what you're saying. There's absolutely no authority to the child of philosophy cutting ties with the father, so i'm kinda right though.

>Maybe according to "Sethians"
seth is a wannabe replacement for abel, that's why your cainite friends are fucking around everywhere.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 13:29:03 [Preview] No. 256 del
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>>254
There are three Empires. First there is the Empire which was founded on the tree of knowledge. Then there is the Empire founded on the tree of the Cross. The third is still a secret Empire which will be founded on the tree of knowledge and the tree of the Cross — brought together.

Very interesting... Is this half-life, transcendence, initiation?


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 16:05:13 [Preview] No. 257 del
Kenites are not Cainites are not Canaanites. There is no "the knowledge" in Christianity in the pagan occult sense, only that disobedience against God was what kicked them out of the garden of Eden which really happened, which disobeying God lead to sin. The Tree of Life is not the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Knowledge of Good and Evil has no Life within knowing. Knowing this won't give you Life. The bible is clear as to the heterosoteric (salvation dependent on another) nature of salvation to obtain life is not autosoteric (salvation through one's own works), while only those had God predestined to receive the atonement of God can choose to obey Him only when God gets rid of the heart of stone and replaces it with the heart of flesh (not the same as the "old man" and the "flesh"). Freemasonry is autosoteric. the -soteric suffix is from soteria (salvation) and from soter (savior, preserver), not from "esoteric".

To ignore the ties betwee the Vatican and Islam is to ignore many things concerning their similarities, how they both venerate Mary, the dead saints, etc. https://youtube.com/watch?v=CSHenSfLh2s [Embed]

>>243
I've seen your previous posts in /x/ and in the /chansonry/ thread and I think that BO was semi right while being a dick about how you didn't really fit in /x/ and ironically you agreed with many of his points but didn't like getting the treatment, and he got his way as you've made /horror/ and deleting everything in old /x/ which if that was his real plan, he semi succeeded although he had given you ample time to back up everything which you said that you did.

BTW, please answer my questions in >>230

>>246
You're that stupid Gnostic that is so cucked by Jesus Christ that you call him a Rabbi when he's not, you call him the son of Joseph which he is not, and you are one of those whose sole purpose is to always be the one to mention about that disinformation in every thread in /pol/. You're the crypto kike here. >>249 >>250 is about you.

>>254
>Moses was a Kabbalist
You are wrong, totally wrong. Whatever justification for this lie is all blasphemy, all from Rabbinic sources or from pseudointellectual God hating "skeptical" scholars. You cannot be a Christian if you believe in the Kabbalah.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 16:28:02 [Preview] No. 258 del
>>257
>I've seen your previous posts in /x/
LOL. You didn't, cus it was my only post on that board XD. Did the board get nuked because of some confused retard?


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 16:47:31 [Preview] No. 259 del
>>257
>You cannot be a Christian if you believe in the Kabbalah.
Why not? Like, Qabbalah isn't a religion. Just a study system. Like Tarot, essentially. It CAN be a religious system, and that's unacceptable.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 17:20:10 [Preview] No. 260 del
>>259
Hi,
I will use your fear
To defeat your own sense of fear.
Please be grateful.
Thank you for listening.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 17:26:43 [Preview] No. 261 del
>>259
Dude, just tell me straight Do you believe malthus was legit? Do you really think men grow like that? Or is it just an excuse, i do because i can, and that's my right?


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 17:39:03 [Preview] No. 262 del
>>258
Are you behind /horror/ or the current BO of /x/ or one of the few anti mason people here? I don't think /x/ was nuked for that post though.

>>259
>Kabbalah isn't a religion
>promotes Tarot
>implying divination is biblical
Your analogies make me doubt that you have the mental capacity to grasp what is a religion, which you deny that Freemasonry is a religion as well. Because your example of having the Tarot divination practice to be "kosher", therefore, your logic concludes that Freemasonry and the Kabbalah is also "kosher.". Terrible reasoning here, you've also admitted that Freemasonry CAN be a religious system, but then you associate Moses as a Kabbalist which is heretical and technically historically, scripturally impossible unless you allow the "Oral Law" to be legitimate, while Kabbalah literally means traditions and the mindsets in that is justified through the "Oral Law" through eisegesis. You are not a Christian if you're also something else that the bible clearly speaks against. It is unacceptable to associate with a religious system like Freemasonry. You cannot serve God and the traditions of men.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 17:41:54 [Preview] No. 263 del
>>261
He probably thinks: "If I didn't do it someone else would", lol. Macbeth would be relieved, he is not the only one who fucked up so badly.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 18:07:04 [Preview] No. 264 del
>>262
>Are you behind /horror/ or the current BO of /x/ or one of the few anti mason people here.

None of those. I'm certainly not anti-mason in any way and totally not associated with the ancient order of south-western piss puddle or any other cult of the great urinary. In fact, I have many friends who are masons, and I know that they are very funny, drunk and blind goat-people.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 18:29:51 [Preview] No. 265 del
>>264
They are half-blind, and you're very funny.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 18:44:49 [Preview] No. 266 del
>>265
Why specifically half blind? I think they're full blind thinking they're half blind.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 22:07:45 [Preview] No. 267 del
>>230
The church can practice the secs.That is a good point. Is OPSEC christian? I think it is. God does not want man to immerse his identity into these machines. OPSEC is in a sense a way of using this fallen angel technology like the internet without taking the mark of social media. Yes operational security should not be confused really with secrecy. It is keeping a healthy distance.Unless of course you feel what you are doing is evil. In that sense I would have to approve of ethical whistle-blowing. Not in every circumstance. Lets say aliens are real maybe the world should not know. Especially if it fucks everything up if the people find out about the martians. But that is besides the point. infosec is a little satanic. Especially in say a cooperate environment. That is bordering on greed holding on to the KFC secret recepie. I think there is a good use and a malicious use of the secs.the individual as well as the church as a whole needs to be aware of the data-mining. How if you put all your info online you are becoming of the world.

I do not really log in that much so I might enable id's.

I do not mind the mason-defender being here. because you look at his responses and you can piece a clearer picture of the stonewalling that takes place.
I am not sure what happened to /x/. Looks like the goal was to focus purely on non-problematic paranormal discussion.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 22:54:33 [Preview] No. 268 del
testing thread-wise id's


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 22:56:36 Id: fe565a [Preview] No. 269 del


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 22:58:12 Id: d0a96e [Preview] No. 270 del
This might be a weird question but what kind of coping mechanisms are useful for you guys, especially the BO to deal with the likes of "depression"?


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 23:00:51 Id: fe565a [Preview] No. 271 del
>>270
A sense of purpose helps. Like the feeling of doing something constructive is good to balance the sadness. There are all kinds of escapes and hobby's to delve into as well.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 23:10:57 Id: d0a96e [Preview] No. 272 del
>>271
Are there such a thing as good games that aren't Jewed with excessive symbolism? I wonder what kind of hobbies I should take up in, most of my current hobbies is a semi destructive one since I burden myself in learning about pretty much anything that interests me like non mainstream science, Christianity, history, economics, current events, various conspiracies, health, etc., but I'm also a NEET with no friends, no social networking, no social life, and every church I've been to end up being rotten from its core, some are extremely cult like that's centered around one guy's opinions which ended up being very bad opinions. It hurts to live.


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 23:31:06 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 275 del
>>261
Not sure what you're on about.

>>262
>implying divination is biblical
I did? Where?
>Your analogies make me doubt that you have the mental capacity to grasp what is a religion,
Now that's funny.
>which you deny that Freemasonry is a religion as well.
Well it does lack the required hallmarks, so the only ones trying to say it is a religion would be idiots or people who have something to gain by lying.
>Because your example of having the Tarot divination practice to be "kosher"
Interesting word choice, but yea, nothing wrong with it. Only a fool would think it's actually divination.
>you've also admitted that Freemasonry CAN be a religious system
Literally no. There's no God of Freemasonry. There's no Holy Book of Freemasonry. There's no religious dogma of Freemasonry. Makes it pretty hard to be a religion.
>but then you associate Moses as a Kabbalist which is heretical and technically historically, scripturally impossible unless you allow the "Oral Law" to be legitimate
First of all, how is it heretical? Secondly, yes, the Oral Torah, whether you believe it or not is where that stuff comes from, so you're just picking and choosing it seems. Either you accept the Moses story as per the OT, or you reject the lot including recieving the Qabbala on Mt Sinai.
>You are not a Christian if you're also something else that the bible clearly speaks against.
Agreed?
>It is unacceptable to associate with a religious system like Freemasonry.
See above about how it isn't a religious system.
>You cannot serve God and the traditions of men.
So no churches or actual living on God's earth, then?


Anonymous 01/08/2017 (Sun) 23:53:10 Id: 65d47f [Preview] No. 276 del
>>257
>You're that stupid Gnostic that is so cucked by Jesus Christ that you call him a Rabbi when he's not,

John 4:31 – In the meantime His talmidim (“students, disciples”) urged Him, saying, “Rabbi, eat.”

John 3:1-2 – This man came to Yeshua (“Jesus”) by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”

John 6:25 – And when they found Him on the other side of the lake, they said to Him, “Rabbi, when did You come here?”

John 4:9 – Then the woman of Samaria said to Him, “How is it that You, being a Jew, ask a drink from me, a Samaritan woman?”…

Luke 4:16 – So he came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read.
Sourced from
http://www.renegadetribune.com/all-christians-are-cucks/

>and you are one of those whose sole purpose is to always be the one to mention about that disinformation in every thread in /pol/. You're the crypto kike here. >>249 >>250 is about you.
Who? What does the Alex Jones shitposter has to do with me? I'm don't think Anyone who disagrees with you is "Alex Jones Shitposter".


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 00:05:41 Id: 65d47f [Preview] No. 277 del
>>257
>>276
Forgot one more thing.
Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Colossians 3:11 - Here there is no Gentile or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.
Your pro-slave morality cucked proto-communist kike religion is nothing more than the precursor of (((Marxism)))


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 00:23:59 [Preview] No. 278 del
>>272
Well don't feel too bad that is essentially my situation. I would not advise you start trying to go to a church unless its one you grew up in or something. The modern church is a really depressing thing. As far as video games I do not let the symbolism stop me if I want to plug into a game I will do that. I will even put a podcast or a talk show on in the background and just totally escape. I like to think I am investing in becoming prepared fro the chaotic climate of the society. Learning the nuances of several factions. Seeing the political climate. I spent a while learning how to use Linux. Become more privacy aware. You can go crazy just in the configuration of your computer and that is a skill too. I also take the most convincing pieces of videos and podcast and so on to make a case for various conspiracies. The whole meme creation is a fun thing to do. I honestly think if you find yourself interested in things then there is less bordem. The less bordem the less depressing thoughts.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 02:01:45 [Preview] No. 280 del
>>276
>Talmudim
Majority Text is written in Hebrew, the Talmud is of the Rabbinic system, Jesus' disciples weren't Rabbinic Pharisaic Judaists.

Matthew 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

Jesus is the true teacher of the Word that became flesh, the problem here is that you assume that just because some Rabbis called him a "Rabbi" that Jesus was therefore a Pharisee which is not the case, and only Pharisees that respected his opinion over the majority of the Rabbis asked him questions calling him "Rabbi" as in teacher.

Jew is a mistranslation, it should be either Judean or Judahite. There were at least four different sects based off of the Levitical system or at least pretended to before Jesus Christ. It's pathetic to assume that Judeans all believe in and practiced the same system.

If you just read from Luke chapter 4 verse 16 through 21, you would know that he was talking about himself through the verses spoken in the book of Isaiah chapter 61 verses 1-2 except the last part of verse 2, the part that goes on with "and the day of vengeance of our God, to comfort all that mourn", Jesus didn't come for vengeance, yet, just as he promised later on about said day when it would happen which had happened through the destruction of the second temple and the city of Jerusalem, through the Roman empire that served to do the will of God to cause many of the things spoken on in the book of Revelation and in Matthew 23.

Galations 3:28 and Colossians 3:11 is about salvation not being limited to a few of the Judahites, but also limited few of other peoples of all races and the two genders. However, because of your cognitive dissonance in associating Judahites with the religion of the Pharisees, you foolishly assume that this is promoting various heretical things from miscegenation to the heretical dual covenant theology (actual covenant theology is replacement theology) in the lie the all Jews are saved by their DNA which Jesus called BS to that claim. Limited election of the saints is not selected by DNA, but by God before creation, predestined a few to be able to accept the gospel message when God decides to change their hearts and if this conversion was completed, it is by the work of God's grace and God's faith that had lead the predestined to accept it to begin with, but they still nevertheless ened to understand the core principles of what it takes to be truly saved which cannot be forced by others to be done at all, and no one except God and Jesus can make an assured statement concerning if someone's guaranteed to be saved, but what the bible is clear about is that IF you are saved, THEN your salvation is assured. We cannot be sure if we are saved through our own works or anything like that, for that does away with the true gospel message, but Christians still seek to do good things and oppose degeneracy and hostile takeover of a small population of people that doesn't adhere to anything concerning the people that they shove down PSYOPs through the media and through academia. A true Christian won't be a Jew, won't do business with a Jew because they can't trust a Jew, won't marry a Jew, won't listen to a Jew, won't talk to a Jew unless in rebuke if they tell you lies.

Marxism is not Christianity, but the little to no exposure you have to Christianity probably lead you to churches that are indoctrinated by Jews to teach Liberation Theology. Let's not forget the 60+ million Russian Orthodox Christians that were sent to the gulag and were slaughtered because of the (((Soviets))). It's a fool's errand to listen to /leftypol/ and the argument of Zionist Jews that seek to co-opt Christianity and casually ignore any and all facts concerning their true hatred of Christianity. I'm not white, not a Jew, I'm not seeking to try to have Christianity be tainted by the Alt-Right people that are closet MGTOW gays and race mixing traitors of their own people, but I don't let your bullshitting go by without listening to what I've got to say.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 02:02:58 [Preview] No. 281 del
>>280
*The Majority text is NOT written in Hebrew


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 04:45:57 [Preview] No. 282 del
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>>226
>how so?
It preaches another gospel. It observes other Idols.
>wrong.
It may not be a religion where you have to agree. I certainly would not choose to believe the unholy doctrines. But it is a perverse take on religion at the very least.When there is the masonic bible that makes it religious.
>require to be of their own religion.
so it can be modified to the ancient mysteries

>>238
Yea I am just getting caught up this is nice and rich religious dialog.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 04:51:53 Id: febc8a [Preview] No. 283 del
>>244
>Is it? I mean, it's mentioned, but not much.
Quite sure it is when you know which traditions refer to it (e.g. this whole "east" traveling thing Freemasons, socialists and several other Mysteries influenced groups have).
>Osiris and Apollo are the only correct associations there.
Nope. All are but it's not a straightforward and easy correlation and not every peculiar attribute will fit. It's all the same shit with some irrelevant variances.
>You're putting the cart before the horse.
And you're vaguely dismissive but that doesn't change the fact the point still stands.
>Why would I? It's just a piece of art done by overly zealous Americans.
Sure, and EASTERN mithraist phrygian cap was put there because it symbolizes freedom from slavery. Whole damn painting is esoterically encoded and put on a ceiling of the very dome of freemason constructed Capitol Building.
>So you googled it out of context?
Did I? Can you show me how I misinterpreted or misquoted the passage? What you seem to be doing is grasping at straws in a desperate trying to discredit me without refuting the point.
>Ie. not accurate info.
I find it quite solid, especially coming from one of the most influential masonic writers and figures.
>No no, PIKE does claim. Not Freemasonry.
Wasn't Morals and Dogma a sort of official handbook given to a mason after attaining certain degree or something? Has his authority been rejected or invalidated in any manner by Freemasonry at large?
>It shouldn't, because none of that could be applied to the Craft.
But everything does. Have you been using definitions of some special dictionary? Apparently you have if you consider circumambulation, elevation of eastern direction, blackballing etc elements of philosophy rather than religious rituals.
>Obviously not the Templars
It's pointless of me to regurgitate the book that I've posted.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 04:52:34 Id: febc8a [Preview] No. 284 del
>>245
>It's imitation, but not veneration. Again, it makes a philosophical point.
It is veneration and it is astrotheological religious ritual, this is not a medium through which philosophical arguments are offered.
>So not Masonry?
It's really not that different. At the esoteric core it is the same tradition with the same goal.
>Pretty sure Theosophy doesn't hate Christianity either.
Well it's hard to tell just from the writings because the planned slaughter is described in an atmosphere of love and sad necessity supposedly resulting in rebirth of the murdered into a better world.
>because even taking it out of context as you are, it doesn't really say that.
How have I taken it out of context? I've pasted almost whole passage, there's like one verse more that wasn't relevant (and if you think it was show me how) and then topic changes. It does say that. First is the OT take "fullfill your vows" then right after "DO NOT SWEAR AT ALL" with reasons given that these things you want to swear on belong to God and if you want to swear on yourself you have so little power in that mater you cannot even change the colour of your single hair. There you go, point by point.
>all the morality it espouses comes from the NT
But it doesn't espouse all morality of the NT. Facade is all it is. That doesn't mean that some lower tiers cannot honestly put effort to be better people according with some of those teachings which could be taken from NT but that is only part of the facade.
>he took spurious sources
Which are? Pike? Blavatsky? Bailey? Hall? Most of that audition is him quoting prominent occultists.
>led them to state conclusions he fabricated
I don't know if this is some word game because conclusion has to be 'fabricated' in some manner but that doesn't mean it's false or wrong in any way.
>very one sided view of everything
It'll be hard for me to locate precise words but at one place in Mystery Babylon he said that the plans to better human condition should be made public and then humanity should on it's own decide whether to participate in them or not. That's one of the most openminded positions one can take when being conscious of what that plan is. He offered help on how to get out of Freemasonry but he was unapologetic about the organization itself.
There are only several claims he didn't directly substantiate however in the context of all the things he did prove they become the only logical conclusions. That being said there are a lot of things he didn't say in that audition that perhaps should be said to give a fuller understanding but knowing more doesn't invalidate his most crucial conclusions.
>lmao@ur life
The only way for someone to defend Freemasonry at large is for him to be undereducated. Standing for Freemasonry from a position of great knowledge unfortunately also counts as ignorance.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 05:28:19 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 285 del
>>282
>It preaches another gospel. It observes other Idols.
Where?
>When there is the masonic bible that makes it religious.
There is no Masonic Bible, though. Masonic lodges all have a Bible (usually a KJV, Catholic nations usually have a Catholic translation), so i guess that's where non-members get confused?
>so it can be modified to the ancient mysteries
Nope. That would be contrary to Masonic teaching. That quote isn't wrong, but it's misunderstood. Masonry's primary instruction is for a man to be dutiful to his religion.

>>283
>Quite sure it is when you know which traditions refer to it
You really need to read the ceremonials. "Traveling east" is an inside joke referring to taking the role of WM (lodge president), which is situated in the east. Whereas the traveling thing itself comes from the SW and JW lines about searching east and west for that which was lost.
>Nope. All are
Mithra could, depending on the usage. But to call Thor, Adonis, Bacchus, and Baal sun Gods is silly, since their respective pantheons already had other sun Gods.
>And you're vaguely dismissive
Didn't mean to be dismissive. Just pointing out that you're saying that 2 came before 1. Masonry has those symbols found in the Vatican because that's the kind of place it got them from. Not the other way around.
>Sure, and EASTERN mithraist phrygian cap was put there because it symbolizes freedom from slavery.
Probably.
>dome of freemason constructed Capitol Building.
The architect wasn't a Freemason, though. It was inspired by the Roman pantheon, and apparently the Louvre.
>Can you show me how I misinterpreted or misquoted the passage?
Because if you'd read it, you'd see he's talking about Freemasonry being some primordial religion, but that inspiration has always been present to those who look for it.
>I find it quite solid
Why? It's self serving, and there's zero evidence to back it up.
>especially coming from one of the most influential masonic writers and figures.
Pike? You think that applies to Pike? He's only influential to non-Masons. He actually wrote very little about Freemasonry, and instead focused on the A&AR (again, not Freemasonry) degrees he rewrote, which only applies to the Southern States in the USA. Nowhere else in the world.
>Wasn't Morals and Dogma a sort of official handbook given to a mason after attaining certain degree or something?
A couple of Valley's gave it out to those who wanted it, but it stopped paying for itself, and the degrees were changed, so the book stopped applying. Bridge to Light is the new one. Much easier to read.
>Has his authority been rejected or invalidated in any manner by Freemasonry at large?
Again, by the rest of the world? Yes. By the jurisdiction to which he belonged? A bit, since again they changed his work and fixed his mistakes.
>But everything does.
In the definition I posted? If you really think it fits, you're an imbecile, or lying.
>Apparently you have if you consider circumambulation, elevation of eastern direction, blackballing etc elements of philosophy rather than religious rituals.
Why do you keep bringing up the ballot process? Anyway, yea, it's entirely philosophical, as it's not a religious service. It's not done as part of a duty to God, but items to consider.
I guess you're an American, but even they don't normally struggle with such simple concepts.
>It's pointless of me to regurgitate the book that I've posted.
Agreed. Holy Blood, Holy Grail is an academic laughing stock, which even the authors apologised for in their follow up work which entirely disproved it.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 05:48:58 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 286 del
>>284
> this is not a medium through which philosophical arguments are offered.
Why not? I mean, again, it's not veneration. We're not offering up burned sacrifices to the sun in the hope it will rise in the morning. It's done so that the candidate considers the role the sun plays in the cycle of life. Much like other things are used to represent other elements.
>It's really not that different.
But it is still different. They knocked off some Masonic traditions, but that doesn't mean they affected the Craft.
>At the esoteric core it is the same tradition with the same goal.
Unless it's self and societal betterment, nope.
>How have I taken it out of context?
Because you're messing up the grammar. How anyone can miss the blatant, "Keep your promises, don't promise what isn't yours, and don't promise that which you can't keep" is beyond me. It's not saying you have "so little power in the mat[t]er", it's saying you can't change something like that, so don't pretend you can.
>But it doesn't espouse all morality of the NT.
Pretty much does, though. At least, all that can fit in.
> lower tiers
Always one more degree, right?
>Which are? Pike? Blavatsky? Bailey? Hall?
Yup. Pike out of context as always, because non-Members (and some members) simply don't have the ability to understand him, and then he goes on to non-members. Then of course there's the Schnoeblen tier people who are blatant liars whom he takes for gospel.
>but that doesn't mean it's false or wrong in any way.
That's exactly what it means. I can't remember which one it was, but there was some interview he did, where he had the "expert" guest on, and he basically fed them lines, many of which were supreme jumps of logic, even with bodgy testimony, and he expected it to be accepted without question or evidence.
>That's one of the most openminded positions one can take when being conscious of what that plan is.
Except it's still one sided.
>The only way for someone to defend Freemasonry at large is for him to be undereducated.
And the only way to attack it is with base insults like that, whilst ignoring proof.

Have you ever read Masonic ceremonials or Books of Constitutions? If not, you're just trusting people with agendas to mislead you.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 06:33:27 [Preview] No. 287 del
>>285
>Where?
https://archive.is/qtH6u#selection-639.105-639.127
https://web.archive.org/web/20161021225807/http://fojcradio.com/Deliverance%20from%20Demonic%20Bondage%20and%20Curse%20of%20Freemasonry.htm
Indiana Monitor, P. 154
By its legend and all its ritual, it is implied that we have been redeemed from the death of sin and the sepulchre of pollution ….and the conclusion we arrive at is, that youth, properly directed, leads us to the honorable and virtuous maturity, and that the life of man, regulated by morality, faith, and justice, will be rewarded at its closing hour by the prospect of eternal bliss.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 06:44:05 [Preview] No. 288 del
>>286
lol. Freemasonry is nihilist, 100% against any authority and is atheist in origin. All top participants during the french revolution were masons. Libertine movement was masonic.

The "free" part doesn't connect with the idea of obeying god or whatever authority.


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Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 07:37:10 [Preview] No. 292 del
>>291
Isolation - corruption of old standards - yielding to new standards.

The point of the revolution was to bring napoleon there.

It's all like in >>243


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 07:52:26 Id: b555c3 [Preview] No. 293 del
>>292
>The point of the revolution was to bring napoleon there.

i.e. Trump


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 08:18:31 [Preview] No. 294 del
>>293
Trump is the revolution part. Divide and conquer.
As for the goals of freemasonry,
it can be described as "unity or death". most governments are actually corporeal bodies and you are their employee [citation not needed]. I don't remember if it's in the birth certificate... but it's optional, lol :D

Don't remember which country it was... but there were christians a few centuries ago who refused to sign any documents whatsoever since they considered them to be pacts with the devil and trickery... i'm saying ANY documents, not just passport.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 08:47:34 [Preview] No. 295 del
>>285
The Masonic bible has footnotes and additional pages as to what certain passages mean for a mason. King James VI/I was a Freemason, the original 1611 KJAV had such masonic symbolism. https://youtube.com/watch?v=96eB-Cecsvc [Embed] The Masonic bible is used as furniture to take oaths on, the truth isn't furniture, and nobody has to use the Masonic bible specifically, they can use other religious texts to take oaths on the "Alter". https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=masonic+bible Masonic commentary is not only unnecessary, it's also blasphemous at times. You are a liar through and through.

>>291
>>292
What is that PDF about? Is that what dying masons in white clothing do before they die or something? Is it written by a mason?


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 09:15:07 [Preview] No. 297 del
>What is that PDF about? Is that what dying masons in white clothing do before they die or something? Is it written by a mason?

that pdf is a weapon against prejudice and ignorance, as they call it. talks about a priest renouncing his faith after talking to a dying libertine, and then fucking roughly some whores right there and then. marqui de sade is responsible for the term Sadism due to his book "120 days of sodom". I don't know if he was a mason, but he was an exceptional libertine.

>The Dying Man rang, the women entered the room, and
in their arms the priest became a man corrupted
by Nature— and all because he had been unable to ex
plain what he meant by Corrupted Nature.

At any rate I'm bored of talking about them. There's no reward for it. I wish them good luck and a nice day.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 09:50:49 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 299 del
>>287
That sure says "implying" a lot, rather than anything concrete.

>>288
>Freemasonry is nihilist, 100% against any authority and is atheist in origin. All top participants during the french revolution were masons. Libertine movement was masonic.
Wow, batting 0/5. Great job. It certainly isn't nihilist, because it's about getting shit done. It's monarchist, and appreciates structure, organisation, and authority. And the French libertine movement was headed by French libertines. They took over lodges and booted out the Masons who protested. This caused a schism, and is why we have real lodges in France, and fake ones which carry on that (((legacy))).

>>295
>The Masonic bible has footnotes and additional pages as to what certain passages mean for a mason.
That's a KJV with footnotes and pictures. It doesn't make it a Masonic Bible. There are Masonic Qurans, Gitas, Tao Te Jings, and so on.
>King James VI/I was a Freemason
Lousy claim which has never been proven.
>the original 1611 KJAV had such masonic symbolism.
Again, arse-backwards. Masonry has symbols which are found, among other places, in the KJV.
>The Masonic bible is used as furniture to take oaths on, the truth isn't furniture, and nobody has to use the Masonic bible specifically, they can use other religious texts to take oaths on the "Alter"[sic].
Yea? What's your problem there?
>Masonic commentary is not only unnecessary, it's also blasphemous at times.
Of course it's unnecessary, but so are most commentaries. Does that mean they aren't allowed to be said? And how is it blasphemous?
>You are a liar through and through.
So to a blind idiot, i look like a liar? Worse things have happened at sea, and the truth will survive your assaults.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 10:16:51 [Preview] No. 300 del
>It certainly isn't nihilist
Here we go again.
>because it's about getting shit done
you bet, sums it up...

>They took over lodges and booted out the Masons who protested.
epic

You have nothing interesting to say, I might as well chat with a bot or something... We, cattle, need food and entertainment...


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 10:31:28 [Preview] No. 301 del
>Worse things have happened at sea
yar!

>truth will survive your assaults.
powerful conquistador in da house.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 10:32:13 [Preview] No. 302 del
>>299
Masonic KJV Family Bible https://youtube.com/watch?v=zDkO446AtpQ
Masonic Bible take 1 ....... Freemasonry Illuminati https://youtube.com/watch?v=Yg0WJWzde7w

In agreeing with my statement, you admit that there is no truth in the Masonic bible, treated in the same level as other religious texts, unequally yoked with nonbelievers.

Every stupid religious people (opposed to smart and honest religious people) say that their religion is not a religion because it's true, exactly like how every cult does damage control in trying to explain what is a cult to others so that they won't fit their own definitions or make it relative so that suspecting discerning people would have something to think about as the means of distraction and diversion while they speak about their cult in how good it is and such. You've drank the Kool-Aid, you are the blind idiot here.

Matthew 5:33 Again, ye have heard that it was said to them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform thine oaths to the Lord.
34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all, neither by heaven, for it is the throne of God:
35 Nor yet by the earth, for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem: for it is the city of the great King.
36 Neither shalt thou swear by thine head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
37 But let your communication be Yea, yea: Nay, nay. For whatsoever is more than these, cometh of evil.

Oaths to God is not oaths to men, being under oath to be subjegated by men through God is not allowed for no angels nor demons can separate God from those He loves, there can be no other mediator between man and God except Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit whom Jesus sent for the predestined elect (not the masonic "elect"). No oaths needs to be taken to be honest. Some false Christians validates oaths only for tax exemption purposes like vow of poverty and other stuff. Blood oaths are worse than normal oaths, it's really a forced conversion ritual which is technically done in free will or else you guys would be guilty of human rights violations, and at times, you guys actually do threaten people to kill those that had revealed the blood oaths. or had done harm to the lodge in some significant form even if they were never masons to begin with.

Your "as below so above" bottom up logic corrupts your grasp on the bible, which only adhering to the first five books of the Old Testament is insufficient, you guys like to take bible verses out of context in those books, outside of the context of the New Testament. The Old Testament is nothing without the truth revealed through Jesus Christ and his disciples inspired through the Holy Spirit that shows what the Old Testament was missing. I doubt that you can grasp Matthew chapter 5 without Freemasonic brainwashing blocking you from the truth.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 10:37:49 [Preview] No. 303 del
board owner should enable mandatory ID's


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 10:40:42 [Preview] No. 304 del
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>>303
I'm not the BO, but it seems like you and I are Torposting.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 10:58:35 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 305 del
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>>300
>You have nothing interesting to say
And you have no arguments.

>>302
>In agreeing with my statement, you admit that there is no truth in the Masonic bible
I find plenty of truth in the Bible, be it stamped with a square & compass or a St Peter's Cross.
>treated in the same level as other religious texts, unequally yoked with nonbelievers.
As a holy text, yea. With no comment given on any of them, and certainly not treated as equal.
>Every stupid religious people (opposed to smart and honest religious people) say that their religion is not a religion because it's true
What are you on about now?
>You've drank the Kool-Aid, you are the blind idiot here.
>"I've run out of false arguments i've been spoonfed instead of researching. Better get back at him by saying nuh-uh, he's the doody!"
>Oaths to God is not oaths to men, being under oath to be subjegated by men through God is not allowed for no angels nor demons can separate God from those He loves
Agreed. What's your point?
>No oaths needs to be taken to be honest.
Also agreed.
>Some false Christians validates oaths only for tax exemption purposes like vow of poverty and other stuff. Blood oaths are worse than normal oaths
Again, agreed?
>you guys actually do threaten people to kill those that had revealed the blood oaths. or had done harm to the lodge in some significant form even if they were never masons to begin with.
Nope, you might want to read them again. Here, i'll post a ritual and you can see what the actual punishment is, instead of spreading lies.
>Your "as below so above" bottom up logic
That's Hermeticism. Not mentioned in Craft Freemasonry.
>corrupts your grasp on the bible
How would it do that, though? Makes for a more beautiful understanding and appreciation of creation.
>only adhering to the first five books of the Old Testament
Huh?
>you guys like to take bible verses out of context in those books
Oh the fucking irony. But do expand.
>he Old Testament is nothing without the truth revealed through Jesus Christ and his disciples inspired through the Holy Spirit that shows what the Old Testament was missing.
Agreed entirely.
>I doubt that you can grasp Matthew chapter 5
Clearly understand it better than you. As in, by reading the whole thing, and taking all matters as context.
Have you considered reading the Bible some time?


>>303
Would support.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 11:14:36 [Preview] No. 306 del
>>305
Do you have the sword?
What is the importance of mixing faiths?
War of the gods is ethereal?
Generally, would you kill for a higher purpose? If so, how are you free then? (You'll probably dismiss this as a label, lol).
Do you consider yourself to be one of many?


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 11:23:09 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 307 del
>>306
Yes.
Sharing knowledge and learning about the self.
Sure?
Of course. Because i'm free to do so.
Probably.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 11:51:15 [Preview] No. 308 del
>>307
>Sharing knowledge and learning about the self.
Didn't it all spring from the same place, lol?

>Sure?
Infowar on the internet (ethernet as it used to be called)?

>Of course. Because i'm free to do so.
Interesting.

>Probably.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MD4F-mEMlRo [Embed]
But i like how you put this to question.

Why do you not like angels?


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 13:14:45 [Preview] No. 309 del
>>305
Good question:
Did you free yourself from the burden?


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 13:32:41 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 310 del
>>309
What burden?


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 15:02:06 [Preview] No. 312 del
>>310
Are you a part of a study group?
What did you study in this thread?
Do you believe in the hive mind / wisdom of crowds?


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 15:10:32 [Preview] No. 313 del
this
>>302
and this
>70c16e
is samefag with proxy


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 15:20:54 Id: 1a9f04 [Preview] No. 314 del
>>313
nah, they're pretty clearly different people. The tor guy who makes long posts has been on endchan for many months and I recognize his style. It's pretty disingenuous to make that kind of accusation with no evidence


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 15:22:18 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 315 del
>>312
Several.
The idiocy of anti-Masons. It's always a fun thing to do.
I believe it can happen, but have never seen it transpire. Dissent is often required to achieve new and solid ideas.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 15:57:41 [Preview] No. 316 del
>The idiocy of anti-Masons. It's always a fun thing to do.
Works with kids, works with adults.

What do you think of the future of memetics?

What are the fees? If it's not a secret.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 16:19:58 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 317 del
>>316
I've been trying to ignore it, mostly. I hate seeing that stupid forced shite. Used to be a joke would go around for a few weeks then peter out.

Fees vary. Could be $50yr, could be $500.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 16:32:31 [Preview] No. 318 del
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>>317
But what do you think of its future. Kids spend so much time spreading these seeds, I wonder how it's supposed to end. Was that also part of your plan?

You don't have to answer if you don't want to,
no problem.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 16:41:23 Id: 84a22b [Preview] No. 319 del
>>315
>>318

you guys sure are providing evidence that the people who said masons are behind pushing meme magic are onto something.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 16:43:21 [Preview] No. 320 del
>>319
A wise man needs no proof.

Shut up. Get out.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 16:46:42 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 321 del
>>318
I think it'll keep going, but people have, and will continue to mistake correlation for causation.

>>320
Pretty sure wise men DO need proof.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 17:14:33 [Preview] No. 322 del
>>319
ROFL.
Did you know that illuminati created your mother? Tis true I saw it on 4chan!

>>321
NO NEED 4 PROOFZ!!!!1 ENDCHAN IS HOLY ALL TRUE!! LOOK!!! THEY CREATED MEMETICS!!11 LUKE I'M YOUR FATHAA!!111 AAAAAAAAAHH.

I'm used to it, not the first time.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 17:16:07 Id: 1a9f04 [Preview] No. 323 del
>>322
>skull n bones dubs

now that post actually sounds like SA goon speak. That accusation gets overused on 8ch, but people who make posts like yours actually fit the bill.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 18:28:42 [Preview] No. 325 del
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>>313
Abandoning and compartmentalizing biblical logic where it suits you is what lead you to believe in the wrong understanding of free will as well as being unequally yoked with nonbelievers as "brothers" of another faith. You guys also ruined "faith, hope, and charity". Freemasonry really is picking and choosing whatever lessons one wants to adhere to and abandoning lessons that one needs to reject in order to accept higher degrees. There is no consistency in Freemasonry, many contradictory statements had been spoken by Freemasons and will always be so. If there are such a thing as an honest, gullible, foolish, consistent Freemason, they wouldn't go beyond the three degrees. If they were honest, smart, wise, consistent Christian, they wouldn't join the masons just as they wouldn't join the army or even another religious organization. Usually, stupid Christians join such places in their own volition, only a few wisen up and leave the lodge and the masons. Also, some people need to pay up to get to certain degrees to learn certain lessons. The real mystery here is that such monetary funds for some to gain some business connections while for those that get a check from the lodge uses this to milk people is what Freemasonry as a business is all about, which is funny, the Discordians behind the Church of the SubGenius understands such concepts although as Discordians, they're also fairly competent at doing the same through confusion.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 18:31:51 [Preview] No. 326 del
>>325
meant to quote >>305 and say to >>313 that you're wrong.

The BO has proven himself to be the victor at least to me.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 20:39:41 [Preview] No. 327 del
Let me elaborate on this guy, since he is free to spit out whatever bullshit he wants (c).

>Several.
Random guess. But I guess it's my kink to sit in /horror/ and read all sorts of garbage about the slaves.

>The idiocy of anti-Masons. It's always a fun thing to do.
Naturally, lol.

>I believe it can happen, but have never seen it transpire.
A lie. The internet is a hivemind.

>Dissent is often required to achieve new and solid ideas.
Omega's job is to clean up, just like in this thread ;)

Very nice.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 20:47:37 [Preview] No. 328 del
>>327
Perhaps the dialogue creates (((passion))) for this guy, dunno.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 20:50:20 [Preview] No. 329 del
>>328
So what, do you really think they feed on it?


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 21:10:09 Id: 1a9f04 [Preview] No. 330 del
>>328
>>327

Did I just stumble upon actual masons hijacking this thread?

Or are you anti-mason and probing them for info?

>this guy
who: the BO, the Christian tor poster, or the 70c16e mason shill?

>Omega
who?


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 21:10:09 [Preview] No. 331 del
>>329
Of course, how else would they get anything done, lol? They wanna gain the rep and then use it, so that you'll consider any trash they throw out as valuable. And the more you bite the lower your standards. So you're stuck with trusting a pure liar.

>>300
this one got it right. bots are more interesting, assuming this mason isn't a bot of some sort. probably only half-bot, lol and yar!


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 21:14:04 [Preview] No. 332 del
>>330
by "this guy" i meant the top mason, the shill. he is the one that wants some attention and care.
he is welcome here, ofcourse.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 21:15:23 Id: 1a9f04 [Preview] No. 333 del
>>331
You're trying to imply that
>>300
is a bot,

>>325 and 70c16e are samefags.

it's pretty clear what you goons are doing.

Trying to discredit the genuine posters who threaten your cult/


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 21:29:51 Id: febc8a [Preview] No. 334 del
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>IDs
BO pls. Really pls. If you don't remove them I'll have to leave after I'm finished with this freemason.

>>285
>"Traveling east" is an inside joke referring to taking the role of WM (lodge president), which is situated in the east.
Wait, just now, shhh, did you hear that? I can hear it quite clearly. It's a laughter of every occult researcher.
Why is the worshipful master guy's seat situated in the east in the first place? "Ex Orienta Lux". This is an echo of sunrise in the east.
>Whereas the traveling thing itself comes from the SW and JW lines about searching east and west for that which was lost.
Isis searching for penis of Osiris, the lost doctrine, spread among cultures and traditions after the ancient centralized mystery cult was broken. Maybe you can fool yourself with these shallow explanations of yours.
>Mithra could, depending on the usage. But to call Thor, Adonis, Bacchus, and Baal sun Gods is silly, since their respective pantheons already had other sun Gods.
Ever seen a "Where's Wally" puzzle? If you seen couple you can tell when you're looking at one even if you can't find the Wally character himself because it has a lot of pointless details that are confusing to look at and unnaturaly high density of red-white striped objects. You're now trying to argue that these aren't "Where's Wally" puzzles because they're set in forest, city or whatever and you know the puzzles are set in theme parks.
Thor. What comes to mind? Lighting? Hammer? Hammer. What is a hammer? T. Phallus. Masculine principle, same as the Sun. Thor fought with a great serpent just like Apollo. His wife Sif was goddess of fertility so close to Baal, bascially Baal (war, thunders, weather) and Baal is clearly a Sun/Saturn god. Thor has been identified with Jupiter by the ancient Romans. Jupiter, son of the old sun Saturn would be the next sun. Son is interchangeable with father in ancient thought and it's echoed in astrological signs for Saturn and Jupiter and even Kubrick thought it was fitting to change the scene where Saturn appeared in Space Odyssey so that Jupiter appears instead. There's probably more but this is roughly how this thing works esoterically. Deities of ancients are more aspects without clearly defined borders than individual characters. Ultimately it's all the same shit but if you want after a bit of reading I can do the same for Bacchus and Adonis (needless for Baal, no need for any advanced associations with this one to see it's Sun/Saturn).
>Just pointing out that you're saying that 2 came before 1.
Irrelevant because it's the same religion at it's esoteric core.
>Probably.
Sorry, that won't fly and anyone with a dimmest understanding of how occult gets put in the open for the profane to look but never really see knows why.
>The architect wasn't a Freemason, though. It was inspired by the Roman pantheon, and apparently the Louvre.
And just so happens to be "Apotheosis" of a Freemason in a building set up with freemasonic ritual in a freemasonic setting (dome+obelisk) in a city designed so it has a fucking pentagram in it among other things.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 21:30:06 Id: febc8a [Preview] No. 335 del
>>285
>Because if you'd read it, you'd see he's talking about Freemasonry being some primordial religion, but that inspiration has always been present to those who look for it.
Let's look back at the original statement:
>Masonry claims to be the essence of all religions.
So in other words Masonry statement is that it claims to hold to the perennial philosophy (basically gnosticism). Back to the quote - the inspiration is present for those who look and are able to understand - that is admission that there is such a thing in the first place. If it's hidden but he knows it's there (he even named some 'inspired' philosophers) that means he understands that inspiration. The whole paragraph talks about how Apocalypse of John is one of those inspired writings, occulted as much as Zohar, unable to be understood by multitude but rather meant for initiated and he addresses that to the Freemasons. In short:
1. admission that inspiration holding secret truths can be found in numerous places
2. admission that these truths can be seen and understood by Freemasons
Conclusion: Freemasonry teaches perennial philosophy
>Why? It's self serving, and there's zero evidence to back it up.
Because I can arrive at similar conclusions myself.
>In the definition I posted? If you really think it fits, you're an imbecile, or lying.
Are we speaking different language? Every single bit fits. It's a religion. If that's not clear then I'm not sure I can even properly clear that out, the discrepancies in understanding might be too huge.
>it's entirely philosophical, as it's not a religious service. It's not done as part of a duty to God,
Rejecting/penalizing someone through vote: simple proceeding. Rejecting/penalizing someone through vote with black cubes: ritual. Black cubes are direct reference to Saturn and using them in context of judgement is ritualistic.
>I guess you're an American
And I guess you're getting desperate.
>Holy Blood, Holy Grail is an academic laughing stock, which even the authors apologised for in their follow up work which entirely disproved it.
What was the issue exactly?


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 21:32:45 [Preview] No. 336 del
>>326
I think that id the BO of /blog/ making the good points.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 21:37:03 Id: 1a9f04 [Preview] No. 337 del
>>336
>/blog/

what? that's not even a board. I assume you mean the tor Christian Opsec guy. I've seen him on this chan pretty much since its inception and he's a pretty good poster.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 21:44:03 [Preview] No. 338 del
Some people want mandatory id'd, Some want no Id's. I am changing nothing for now.
>>337
I mean /conspiracy/. That is the BO of conspiracy. Another good board.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 21:48:58 [Preview] No. 339 del
>>243
+
mockery, ego depletion, conflicts of values.

Bait and switch.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 21:50:48 Id: 1a9f04 [Preview] No. 340 del
>>339
Not sure if that post was actually an anti-mason being sarcastic and mocking the mocker, but "goon" style mockery like >>322 (which just so happened to be post 322) is a perfect example of what you're saying.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 22:07:06 Id: febc8a [Preview] No. 342 del
>>286
>Why not?
What is that supposed philosophical discourse with that it needs to be ritualistically performed and repeated rather than stated and followed by response?
>We're not offering up burned sacrifices to the sun in the hope it will rise in the morning.
If anything it has a magical purpose but that's not my forte.
>Unless it's self and societal betterment, nope.
But it very much is. The problem again is definitions and humanity ill needs that betterment, completion of alchemical Magnum Opus on a scale of the world. Don't push your religion into other's throats.
>How anyone can miss the blatant, "Keep your promises, don't promise what isn't yours, and don't promise that which you can't keep" is beyond me.
It's beyond me how canyone can miss the blatant "But I tell you not to swear at all".
And it's not swearing "what isn't yours" but swearing on.
>it's saying you can't change something like that, so don't pretend you can
Which means "you have no power over even such a trivial thing" but even if we stay by what you propose still you have to explain why it has been said and it has been said as a part of explanation why you should not swear at all. I cannot explain it any simpler, let those who read judge for themselves who's having problems with reading comprehension.
>Pike out of context as always, because non-Members (and some members) simply don't have the ability to understand him,
Ooh, however could the profane swines ever hope understand such sublime secrets! Guess what, jig's up.
>I can't remember which one it was, but there was some interview he did, where he had the "expert" guest on, and he basically fed them lines, many of which were supreme jumps of logic, even with bodgy testimony, and he expected it to be accepted without question or evidence.
Not "expert" but a CAJI operative speaking from a position of an insider of masonic lodge. What you've now said is that "the testimony is false because it is". Were it aired at the start of the auditions it would've been doubtful perhaps but after listening to previous 'hours' it's just another piece of evidence (which you of course as a Freemason have to deny).
>And the only way to attack it is with base insults like that, whilst ignoring proof.
It would be an insult if I told you you're fucking idiot. What I've told you is you haven't been through enough of information to arrive to correct conclusions. What you call ignorance of proof is rejection of facades you wish profane believed.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 22:18:21 [Preview] No. 346 del
>>227
>I don't have quotes on me and at the moment I don't have time to search for it, maybe someone else could provide them.

I found some
This is the essence of religion!
https://archive.is/BJXAy#selection-717.581-717.613
https://web.archive.org/web/20170109220823/http://www.cuttingedge.org/free004.html

Then the next source
ctrl+f essence. 193 results
https://archive.is/J5fF6
https://web.archive.org/web/20170109221327/http://www.mindserpent.com/American_History/organization/mason/freemasonry/freemasonry.html


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 23:19:16 [Preview] No. 349 del
>>228
>where
Even in his 3 world wars letter. Albert Pike mentions the luciferian doctrine coming into the fray.
Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.
https://archive.is/l0J0R#selection-577.1499-577.1527
https://web.archive.org/web/20170109230814/http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm

Why is pepe mazzini involved with all of the damned world wars?
>Good thing that's not in any of the degrees?
No it is why you ask for light more light and then further light. That is the master mason illumination into further light of lucifer. We can talk about the seething energies that manly P hall speaks so fondly of.
>Uh, you might want to look at the rituals, because it is explicitly philosophy. Like, that's all it is.
no that is only one of the liberal arts.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 23:23:45 Id: 84a22b [Preview] No. 350 del
>>349

>pepe


Well there you go. I've thought for a while that the new luciferian religion is imageboard culture and so called meme magic


At this point im almost certain VR games and even Anime will play a part. Chans were their testing ground for a black awakening of sorts. If not from their inception than at the very least since the Guy Fawkes persona of anon first emerged.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 23:35:56 [Preview] No. 351 del
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>>350
I found a guy fawkes mask in a masonic supply catalog. Also a schlomo mask.
Pepe Mazzini (Pepe is a shortening of the name Giuseppe) Created Mazzini's Association for Insurrection and Assassination. M.A.F.I.A. The mafia is literally masonic. Pike wrote the rituals for the klan. He also made The Palladium rite. All criminal enterprises with masonic origin. 3 criminal organizations started by pike through freemasonry. All organized crime is sub masonic because they call non orginized crime clandestine activity.


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 23:40:21 Id: 84a22b [Preview] No. 352 del
>>351

Nice find on the French mask especiall given how anonymous is basically acting just like French Revolutionaries. The Jew mask doesn't look that much like the current year schlomo though


Anonymous 01/09/2017 (Mon) 23:47:38 [Preview] No. 353 del
>>352
This is probably where the whole black face thing came from. This can be used to rile up the niggers.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 02:10:39 [Preview] No. 356 del
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>>239
>until then or until someone else delivers you can disregard that.
There is corroboration of child farming in this screencap.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 02:55:02 [Preview] No. 357 del
>>331
No he is not a bot. That is another part of the deception. They must always clear things up. Being an actual mason it might be aggravating to be hounded like this. Also there are probably some nuances that we are missing. That is why its not his fault. No mason should have to answer for the organization as a whole. At the same time I think its time to set a new standard of half-admission or something because its very obvious where the limits of discussion are. And when it comes to piecing together the entire Illuminati conspiracy it is a reaction. "We are not about that." Yet there are masons that do have mercenary motives and they are the real troublemakers here. They are like those royal guards that can not speak but must always block the path.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 03:33:43 Id: d0a96e [Preview] No. 358 del
I am not the BO of /horror/, I am not the BO of >>>/conspiracy/, I was the BO of /blog/ before I deleted /blog/ (I forgot the reason why but it was a stupid reason), I do post in /conspiracy/ but I was busy posting in /horror/ and in /pol/, and I'm actually d0a96e. I was pretty much on endchan on day one and lurked for awhile before posting in /pol/. Here's the banner used in /blog/ (first pic). I've said too much yet again. I'll resume Torposting. Perhaps consider emailing me via ZeroNet, but before that you would first need to know certain things about me which only "Stu" knows.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 03:40:24 [Preview] No. 360 del
>>358
Alright. I just saw that people where saying the BO was winning the argument that I (The BO) Had not fully even read yet. I figured I would give credit where it was due.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 03:44:14 Id: 2eb955 [Preview] No. 361 del
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>>1
I'd like to thank you for making this board. You are the only person I've seen to ever display the extent of information that I too, possess. So many people genuinely believe they are "woke" and that shit is so fucking annoying. I have only seen the last 2 Chansonry threads and would to have links to previous ones, if any.

I came to realize much regarding the organized crime/masonry, child rape connection in almost an instant thanks to you. Years back, I unknowingly was distanced from that before it could begin.

Look forward to talking with you, BO


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 03:47:34 Id: d0a96e [Preview] No. 362 del
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>>360
I confused fe565a with febc8a and assumed fe565a was BO of /horror/ (AKA: you, "masonnigger"). I've always had a problem trying to figure out who the hell am I talking to, most of you guys all sound the same in my mind.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 04:39:31 [Preview] No. 365 del
>>361
No problem. Its something I thought of doing and with it not being exactly /x/. It is good to zoom in on the problem.
I only have the original chansonry thread. The next thread was 1.5 where I made 70 posts describing how Stephen Kings IT is a satanic. Lost the archive link or did not archive it at all. The thread after that was #3. Because I just used 1.5 as 2. #3 was bump-locked after a day or so. During that thread this damage control thread was made.https://archive.is/vMrpQ

I do not think there was a thread #4. I count this thread as number 4. https://archive.is/JkBTg Because It was alive as a request because #3 was bumplocked. I asked someone to make a thread on masonry and this was the one I went off in. 5 and 6 are linked on /pol/


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 04:52:54 [Preview] No. 367 del
>>362
I was fe565a to test ID's. I am not febc8a


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 04:54:05 [Preview] No. 368 del
>>362
Nvm You got it right you just mistook the to fe starting ID's


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 05:32:48 Id: d0a96e [Preview] No. 369 del
BTW, I am #YcYLSH, all of my trips are compromised now by myself ironically, via accidental leaks in posting the code in the email like a retard. Last time posting with my IP for real, sage for stupid.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 05:40:01 [Preview] No. 371 del
>https://nya.is/
>3GB maximum
Someone please upload their research pictures (can also be anything except porn and illegal porn) in a zipped folder. I only got 10,000+ pics. I'll run rmdupes.sh VisiPics to get rid of dupes then rename them with renum.sh. I'm seeking to randomize my junk with seemingly irrelevent stuff but it actually serves to help me think through symbolism as well as important screenshots, even memes.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 05:40:20 [Preview] No. 372 del
>>369
Lol yea I knew you stopped using it so that is why I did not say the trip name.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 05:48:41 [Preview] No. 373 del
>>351
The letters are claimed to be all faked according to scholars which masons use such claims against those that believe in the letter to be authentic. Some of these things are hard to find "proof" but really what we're seeing here is exactly the same level of systematic denial seen in PizzaGate and Boys Town and other high level pedophilia blackmailing followed by media coverup, classic setup for a conspiracy or even a meta conspiracy to divert people's attention away from the real conspiracy behind the conspiracy.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 05:55:19 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 375 del
>>334
>Why is the worshipful master guy's seat situated in the east in the first place?
Because cathedrals are situated east-west. Not denying that the position represents the rising sun (even says so in the ritual), but you're making a mountain out of a molehill.
>Isis searching for penis of Osiris, the lost doctrine, spread among cultures and traditions after the ancient centralized mystery cult was broken.
If that's your interpretation, so be it. It's not what's taught, though, and you might want to look back through history.
>Masculine principle, same as the Sun
Quite the zebra hunt, but you might want to look at the Norse pantheon again and ask why Sunna is wrecking your theory.
>Irrelevant because it's the same religion at it's esoteric core.
Except not. Which is why you seem to be keen to dismiss the linear passage of time.
>Sorry, that won't fly and anyone with a dimmest understanding of how occult gets put in the open for the profane to look but never really see knows why.
What you're forgetting is, ironically, a lot. As in, when those things were made, people received classical educations, which meant it wasn't hiding in plain sight. It was just plain sight. The average gentleman of the time would know what those symbols meant. But as you've not recieved that education, it looks mysterious. Kind of like the Techpriests in 40k who have forgotten how to make common shit.
>just so happens to be "Apotheosis" of a Freemason
An oathbreaking Mason, but yes.
>building set up with freemasonic ritual in a freemasonic setting (dome+obelisk)
None of those are Freemasonic, though. Like, nowhere in Freemasonry are domes or oblisks mentioned like that. Arches, yes.
>in a city designed so it has a fucking pentagram in it
Duh, the streets radiate out from the White House and Capitol building. It would be impossible to not have a pentagram (which is a Christian symbol anyway).


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 06:05:54 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 376 del
>>335
>So in other words Masonry statement is that it claims to hold to the perennial philosophy
No, not a Masonic statement. A commentators statement from a time when such claims were popular.
>Conclusion: Freemasonry teaches perennial philosophy
That's another one of those things where you're free to believe it, but are putting the cart before the horse.
>Because I can arrive at similar conclusions myself.
With zero evidence, aye.
>Every single bit fits.
If so, you'd be able to demonstrate that. Let's break it down.
>Religion is a cultural system of behaviors and practices,
Possible tick there, but given that Freemasonry is different the world over, you'd have to say it's multiple.
>world views,
Doesn't offer any world views, you have to bring your own.
>sacred texts,
Doesn't have any. Also why you have to bring your own. Similarly, there is no deity, you have to have your own belief.
>holy places,
See above
>ethics,
Got one there, but ethics alone don't mean a religion.
>and societal organisation that relate humanity to what an anthropologist has called "an order of existence".
Another strike out, because again, one has to bring their own belief on that subject as none will be imparted.
Not sure what you want to pretend a religion is.
>Rejecting/penalizing someone through vote: simple proceeding. Rejecting/penalizing someone through vote with black cubes: ritual.
Black balls, but why, though? Like, the means of ballot hardly matter. That was just what was traditionally available. Some places use pieces of paper.
>Black cubes are direct reference to Saturn
Quite the jump, but again, black balls. How have you never heard that term before?
>And I guess you're getting desperate.
No, just that Americans never manage to grasp concepts like religion, philosophy, government, etc. Probably because your media doesn't let you.
>What was the issue exactly?
They use the fake history invented in the 18thC by Andrew Ramsay, and make numerous leaps of logic. Read their follow up book "Temple and the Lodge" if you want the full story where they admit to being foolish.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 06:08:10 [Preview] No. 377 del
>>375
>Cathedrals are East-West
And you ignore that "Cathedrals" are not a "church", how many pagan temples have their entrances open at the East, that "Cathedrals" are not in the bible and are merely "tradition" but your answer is a diversion.

>Pentagram is a Christian symbol
This is the dumbest bullshitting I've ever seen from you. Your answer will be easily debunked and refuted.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 06:14:08 Id: 54e0fe [Preview] No. 378 del
Jahbulon, you worship Jah, Ba'al, and Osiris, unequally yoked see: >>356

70c16e had said before how he owns and had read multiple copies of Morals and Dogma in other Chansonry threads. Let's see what the BO of /horror/ as well as Oathbreaker guy has to say.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 06:21:05 [Preview] No. 379 del
>>376
>Similarly, there is no deity, you have to have your own belief.
And you call yourself "Christian"? You are a "Masonic Christian Atheist".

I'll let others reply to other replies that you butcher up and answer some while ignoring the points made in the thread against Masonry, even the very posts you cherrypick from to make a reply you sometimes take out of their context.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 06:23:38 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 380 del
>>342
>What is that supposed philosophical discourse with that it needs to be ritualistically performed and repeated rather than stated and followed by response?
The kind which wants you to fully understand and learn in a 3d environment, rather than just telling you one thing and pretending to care if you understand it for sake of a grade.
>The problem again is definitions and humanity ill needs that betterment
Protip: There's no single monolithic plan. The idea of societal betterment, or teaching it, is that the members look at what's needed and act accordingly. Not due to a particular belief from someone or somewhere else.
>It's beyond me how canyone can miss the blatant "But I tell you not to swear at all".
By not being disingenuous and reading the rest of the passage? Hell, by your methods we can make the Bible say all kinds of different things.
>And it's not swearing "what isn't yours" but swearing on.
Your own free will and accord?
>Which means "you have no power over even such a trivial thing"
You're getting hung up on semantics. Most Biblical scholars agree that it means not to promise the impossible. It could have been "Don't promise to make the sky green," because you can't do it. So your interpretation isn't wrong, per se, you just cut it off before the end.
>however could the profane swines ever hope understand such sublime secrets
Well you're making quite a point for it. But would you go into an advanced calculus class without first learning basic mathematics?
I mean heck, it's not an insult, it's just that you people never understand who Pike actually was, or what his writings are.
>a CAJI operative
Yea, exactly. Someone with no accountability bullshitting their mouth off. They'd probably never even been in a lodge, given how many basic things they got wrong. Things you can find in public libraries or by buying the rituals we use.
>What I've told you is you haven't been through enough of information to arrive to correct conclusions
Which is ironic, as it seems you're guilty of just that, but lying to yourself about it because you've been through a lot of incorrect information thanks to a lack of critical thinking on the subject. Essentially, you've read fanfiction and have called it canon.
Try reading actual Masonic literature and go from there.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 06:35:45 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 381 del
>>349
>Even in his 3 world wars letter
http://wideshut.co.uk/albert-pikes-3-world-wars-letter-hoax-wideshut-webcast/

But even besides that, where in Masonry could that be found? Like, what ritual?

>no that is only one of the liberal arts.
Again, we're speculative, not operative, so even the 7LA&Ss are philosophically used in the Craft itself.
And Philosophy is actually the combination of three of them.

>>350
>pepe
It's Giuseppe Mazzini. Not Pepe.

>>351
>He also made The Palladium rite.
No, Leo Taxil made that.

>>377
>And you ignore that "Cathedrals" are not a "church"
They kind of are, though? Like a really big one.
>"Cathedrals" are not in the bible
Indeed, but remember Freemasonry was born of the Cathedral builders. Lodges were attached to the south side of the building.
>This is the dumbest bullshitting
You might want to do some research, sweetheart. It originally represented the Five Graces, the Five Wounds of Christ, five Joys of Mary, and so on. Hell, it was so common, that in Arthurian Romance, Gawain had it for his banner.

Bear in mind, i'm not saying it was solely a Christian symbol, just that it is one, and the association of it with magic probably came later from Agrippa.

>>378
>Jahbulon, you worship Jah, Ba'al, and Osiris
Nah. That's silliness. You should read the Royal Arch ritual to find out what that word really means.

>>379
>And you call yourself "Christian"
Of course. What's the issue there? Like, where are you getting atheist from?
>ignoring the points made in the thread against Masonry
I ignore no points which might be addressed. The ridiculous ones which would require proving a negative don't deserve to be addressed.


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Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 06:41:07 [Preview] No. 383 del
>>375
The myth of osiris is the mystical allegory of the 3rd degree. as well as the worship of the dying god of the mysteries Hiram Abiff.
>Duh, the streets radiate out from the White House and Capitol building. It would be impossible to not have a pentagram (which is a Christian symbol anyway).
Ok now there are 2 points of interest with the dc layout. It does emanate from the white house. That is not the masonic part. The supreme council and its relation to that emanation make a reversed pentagram. The inverse pentacle is particular of satanism.
>>376
The landmarks being the ways to follow masonry. Those are something of a religious doctrine.
Black cubes are what the black balls are right? If not then what is the black cube all about?
>>378
I mean its not as bad as people who lose their temper and red text or something. You press this issue enough on 8/pol/ you will see people snap. He is responding. Often with little-people answers. But that is telling. It is a stern doctrine of obedience.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 06:47:15 [Preview] No. 384 del
>>375
The obelisks are stone phallic structures.it can be observed that it is the missing phallus of Osiris.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 06:48:36 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 385 del
>>383
>The myth of osiris is the mystical allegory of the 3rd degree.
Once more, if that's your belief, you might be able to see that in it. Personally, i don't see it fitting, because it doesn't have most of the Osiris plot points.
>as well as the worship of the dying god of the mysteries Hiram Abiff.
Literally how?
>The supreme council and its relation to that emanation make a reversed pentagram.
But that's not true? Like, with neither the original location of the HotT, or where it ended up.
>The inverse pentacle is particular of satanism.
Only for "satanists."
>The landmarks being the ways to follow masonry. Those are something of a religious doctrine.
In Florida, perhaps. But otherwise they're just a rulebook. Less divine than Americans consider the Constitution.
>Black cubes are what the black balls are right?
No, the black balls (marbles, usually, for cost sake) are black balls.
>If not then what is the black cube all about?
I dunno, you were the one talking about it. Always figured it was because a white cube admits, and relates to the ashlar, so the reject had to be the opposite so you don't mix them up in your hand.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 06:49:44 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 386 del
>>384
If that's your belief, sure. But again, it's not used in Masonry. Even in the A&AR SJ, which has a degree based on Egyptian mythos.


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>how?
By the raising of the master mason.

Here is the 1818 map. This is not only penned out by masons. It conveniently is a mosaic of compasses.Clearly there is more than efficiency here. Because it would just be like a block grid. This is intentional shaping of streets to correspond to the entire grid of leylines. There is speculation that philidalphian streets are related and the same with St. Louis and Ohio. We have the town square in every town. This is where the court and the town hall usually is. Right there the town square is similar to the cornerstone. It is like a nucleus of the township. That is a masonic binding to specific locations that correspond to leylines. Maybe even an earth grid.
>Only for "satanists."
so much so that it is not used in any christian setting. Sure the star maybe even a pentacle in the gothic churches. Or in the stain glass windows. But an inverse pentagram is satanic regardless of context. It is really hard to accept the eastern star as a christian symbol. Especially in its relation to the crescent. that is seen in the mystic shrine and it also is the flag of Islam. The moon and the stars is not a symbol of Christianity. It just is not. The sun and moon and stars are condemned as idols from even the most primitive religions. And there are primitive rites of masonry.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 07:38:12 [Preview] No. 388 del
>>386
By numerous masonic authorities there qare quotes saying clearly that:"freemasonry is the continuation of the egyptian mystery tradition."

If that is true and I believe it is. Then the fact that they use phallic Egyptian trinity architecture is more than a single degree of influence. The domes are almost certainly masonic. We know arches are. Speaking of arches they represent and underground entrance. But domes are just arches made into a roof. Often in these "cathedrals" you will see a dome. In the HoTT there is a dome.
https://archive.is/kFJdu
https://web.archive.org/web/20170110072722/http://www.dailygrail.com/blogs/fahim-knight/2010/5/the-kemetic-origin-freemasonry-the-signs-and-symbols-do-not-lie


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 07:38:48 [Preview] No. 389 del
>>388
are*


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 08:02:58 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 390 del
>>387
>By the raising of the master mason.
It's probably closer to Mithra than Osiris. The latter had a lot more shit happen to him.
>It conveniently is a mosaic of compasses
Well yea, like i said, the streets radiate out from the two main buildings.
>Clearly there is more than efficiency here.
Ever driven there? Not efficient at all.
>That is a masonic binding to specific locations that correspond to leylines.
Leylines aren't Masonic. Hell, it predates such nonsense.
>But an inverse pentagram is satanic regardless of context.
Again, for "satanists", yes. But that's a recent development (La Vey).
>It is really hard to accept the eastern star as a christian symbol.
And people find it hard to accept the upside down crucifix as one too, but that's their problem.
>Especially in its relation to the crescent. that is seen in the mystic shrine and it also is the flag of Islam.
What has that got to do with anything?
>The moon and the stars is not a symbol of Christianity.
Moon isn't a typical one, but stars usually are. I take it you're not familiar with the Nativity? Or Christ referring to himself as the Morning Star?
>And there are primitive rites of masonry.
Such as? And why do you think they matter?

>>388
>By numerous masonic authorities there qare quotes
Yea? Which ritual book and BoC states that?
>and I believe it is.
As is your prerogative, but that doesn't make it true. If you'd said Graeco-Roman, there might be an argument.
>The domes are almost certainly masonic.
Yea? Why?
>In the HoTT there is a dome.
But there isn't?


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 09:36:33 [Preview] No. 391 del
>>390
It does not matter the starting of the obelisk. The masonic validity of it. What matters is the point within the circle. In fact all obelisks usually are points within circles. A cone is a point within a circle in 3 dimensions.
http://www.masonic-lodge-of-education.com/point-within-a-circle.html
Hell pizza can not be sliced without going through the point within the cirlce. You will open the square box and see a little plastic georgia guidstones shaped thing with prongs keeping the pizza in place. Pizza is triangle shaped pieces within a circle within a square box. That is absolutely alchemical. Maybe even masonic
>how are domes masonic?
They are the mixture of an arch and a roof.


Anonymous 01/10/2017 (Tue) 10:17:20 Id: 70c16e [Preview] No. 393 del
>>391
>What matters is the point within the circle.
A valid point, but it's still an additional symbol.
>pizza
>alchemical
Good Lord this is become a zebra chase. Figured you'd focus on the square pizzas anyway.
>They are the mixture of an arch and a roof.
Many arches have roofs without being a dome.


Anonymous 01/11/2017 (Wed) 19:34:00 [Preview] No. 397 del
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Did everyone just give up? How sad yet predictible, nobody wants to waste their time on someone so hopelessly deceived.


Anonymous 01/11/2017 (Wed) 20:50:14 [Preview] No. 398 del
>>397
Dude I have been busy with the pizzagate. They found tunnels that cross over 16th street. That is the location of the supreme council.


Anonymous 01/15/2017 (Sun) 23:13:55 [Preview] No. 405 del
Another metacomplaint, end/pol/ is pretty shitty now. I've given up posting there until everything dies down after a couple of months.


Anonymous 01/16/2017 (Mon) 06:20:52 Id: febc8a [Preview] No. 406 del
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>>405
/pol/ in general is a lost cause. Each new board under that brand will become /nazi/ and hotpocketed as soon as it stops being dead. The best course of action is probably to built up someplace like here (but even here already has IDs which was in my opinion one of the reasons that led to /pol/ going to shit).


Anonymous 01/16/2017 (Mon) 06:49:38 Id: b555c3 [Preview] No. 407 del
>>406
>ID's

thing is, without ID's you can never be sure who's subverting or pretending to be others, but with ID's you get mini identity circlejerks.


Anonymous 01/16/2017 (Mon) 06:51:56 Id: b555c3 [Preview] No. 408 del
>>406
also, are you one of the trolls from that 8meta thread? now I'm paranoid about it


Anonymous 01/16/2017 (Mon) 07:05:51 [Preview] No. 409 del
I can't tell the difference between anyone here with or without IDs, and I know that Tor occasionally tricks some websites into thinking that it's an authentic unique non VPN, non Tor IP so every now and then, even Tor users drop an IP even for just one post. One more thing, there can be two people with completely different IPs with the same ID. Nothing is sacred when it's about trying to tell who's who, which makes it harder to tell who's Jewing who as well. Just getting rid of IDs in general is the acceptance of this fact.


Anonymous 01/16/2017 (Mon) 07:10:10 Id: b555c3 [Preview] No. 410 del
>>409
meh, you're right. More that I was triggered by your use of an obvious /intl/ pic


Anonymous 01/16/2017 (Mon) 07:39:17 [Preview] No. 411 del
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>>410
I'm afraid you have mistaken me for someone else.

I am
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So I don't know what you're talking about, unless you think I'm febc8a which I'm not.


Anonymous 01/16/2017 (Mon) 08:12:04 Id: febc8a [Preview] No. 412 del
>>407
Easy workarounds are available. All in all it's a false sense of security. When you don't have IDs you expect sock puppets by default so it doesn't have the effect anymore.
IDs give you thread cred or take it away based on the way you perform, it causes others judge your posts by the prism of authority rather than the points themselves so even if you made some crappy arguments and you make some brilliant observation later it has less chance to be observed for what it is.

It's really not that different from any other form of identity, it carries most of downsides with it even if you don't get choose a nick or avatar and it's only for the thread.

>>408
I am whatever you want me to be, I can't prove otherwise anyway. Ask yourself first what would that change for the point that was made.


Anonymous 01/16/2017 (Mon) 09:05:42 Id: febc8a [Preview] No. 413 del
>>410
>triggered by your use of an obvious /intl/ pic
I was in the thread where it was first posted on 8/pol/. Most if not all text contained in it was taken directly from the thread. It was before the main event and up to the moment I saw it I wondered what was that retarded shit stirring about but then it hit me. Then chemo started, I helped with whatever little I could, there were signs of betterment but it came too late and it lasted too short. I pretty much left /pol/ afterwards.

Now that you'll look at my arguments against IDs thinking I'm all the evil that ever befell on /pol/ I was actually for the feature the first time around. I laughed my ass of when shills didn't yet catch on to it and unironically samefagged 10 posts straight. Nevertheless IDs were a mistake.


Anonymous 01/19/2017 (Thu) 12:09:01 [Preview] No. 417 del
Oh wow, a non shit party that blackpilled people would shit on: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ehtiIWsM1Jc [Embed]


Anonymous 01/19/2017 (Thu) 23:20:59 Id: daf2f3 [Preview] No. 418 del
>>417


I still think Heimbach might be a jew and theres some dirt on him, but TWP does seem much better than most altkike groups and regardless of leadership its members have actually done good volunteer projects in Appalachia.


Anonymous 01/20/2017 (Fri) 10:27:26 Id: d0a96e [Preview] No. 419 del
Some weirdo tried to contact me last week thursday, but didn't bother to tell me the password. I've failed to open it.


Anonymous 01/21/2017 (Sat) 07:54:33 [Preview] No. 420 del
removed id's. Ideas over identity.


Anonymous 01/21/2017 (Sat) 08:17:07 [Preview] No. 421 del
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>>420
Then don't play identity politics.


Anonymous 01/21/2017 (Sat) 08:33:56 [Preview] No. 422 del
>>421
true. I do not enjoy the meta discussion involved with the id's. Yes it can be a board for serious discussion. It also is just a place to brainstorm and discuss/debate the deception. The ID's are a false sense of security. The occult deception is beyond Identity. Aleister Crowley taught to cut your arm every time you think of yourself as an individual. That is a forced depersonalization. To accurately grasp this concept the identity highlighting is counter intuitive.


Anonymous 01/21/2017 (Sat) 08:45:24 [Preview] No. 423 del
>>422
I also do not think it makes that much of a difference.


Anonymous 01/21/2017 (Sat) 10:10:44 [Preview] No. 424 del
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>>420
thanks


Anonymous 01/21/2017 (Sat) 11:00:29 [Preview] No. 425 del
>>422
>Aleister Crowley taught
That's where IDs are good, because we can ignore anyone who spouts such stupid shit.


Anonymous 01/22/2017 (Sun) 03:58:14 [Preview] No. 429 del
>>425
I think it's OP, but because of ideas over identity, OP doesn't real, neither do we, there is there a "we" or "I". With or without IDs, everybody loses either way. There is no perfect medium to communicate either, everything from meatspace, emails, social networks, imageboards, forums, everything has its disadvantages. Therefore, I don't think it's OP, it's anyone, everyone and nobody, can even be you. This kind of thinking is what had ruined any group because any ad hominem becomes a legitimate excuse for groupthink, the herd, the hivemind that can't think. Repeat a lie until it is true, that is the motto of the Jew. Saying shit that nobody cares about actually works online, but everybody is a potential nobody which nobody knows if you're even real. Some of you believe to much of their lies that the liars themselves believe in because they were taught by the father of all lies that has no truth. Trust no one, not even yourself.



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