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The obscure parts of the political compass Anonymous 11/30/2017 (Thu) 20:15:18 [Preview] No. 14037
I am not exposed to libertarian-socialists, but what are the problems with their philosophy? They seem to be anarchists who hate Ayn Rand because they want to cooperate and vote on things. I can see how their philosophy could become viable in 100 years once religion and most violence are gone. I still do fear anarchists as being anti-civilization, harboring fear I wouldn't have access to new technology or that they would enforce a tyranny of the idiot majority though.


Anonymous 11/30/2017 (Thu) 20:56:34 [Preview] No.14038 del
>>14037
>but what are the problems with their philosophy?

>anarchists who want to cooperate and vote on things
>hate Ayn Rand
first of all: retarded oxymoron
In general people like that just don't really have a clue how power structures work. It's a nook of political compass that can only exist because the compass itself is so flawed, to begin with.


Anonymous 11/30/2017 (Thu) 21:08:06 [Preview] No.14039 del
>>14038
Well I always thought the goal of communism ideally was for there to be no government so it would revert them over to a sort of anarchist capitalist state.


Anonymous 11/30/2017 (Thu) 21:34:06 [Preview] No.14040 del
>>14039
That is the ideological premise, yes. If a person says he's a communist, or say, does a test that gives the accurate result of his communist tendencies, to keep to that word the person would probably start as some form of off-grid settler. Communism is a whole mess of its own because it doesn't really correspond to any one person's ideological leaning since it's reliant on reinventing itself in the eyes of the commune that attempts to adapt it. Marxism is more of a true ideological premise, the "raw form" of communism so to speak, and openly self-identified marxist philosophers tend to be decent thinkers and much better informed than meme commies who only take the name to stir shit.


Anonymous 11/30/2017 (Thu) 21:43:45 [Preview] No.14041 del
To expound on libertarian socialism and the flaw in the political compass: it's specifically authored to reactively justify fence-sitting, as it generally refers to application of any politics as authoritarianism. It redefines "liberalism" as the ideology that does not affect society, except by some structuralist loophole of ideologies following a form simply by the reduction that people who think the same morally will just happen to act similarly even in extremely morally insignificant decisions that govern 99% of our daily lives. This is why it only applies to societies that are already so distraught that morality will always directly affect it's ability to function, mainly, how moral decisions are economically unviable in extreme poverty conditions (which is the sole reason they're considered moral to begin with, and not trivial).

For instance, "Nazis" there are only in the fascist corner because the compass forwards the baseless premise that their ideology was "authoritarian-right", which is simply not the case. Ideologically, they were the exact opposite, liberal socialist. The ideology assumed that liberal society, through such a structuralist loophole, must by rule fall into the socialist camp. This compass just makes a shitshow of its conclusions by freely switching whether it's supposed to measure the Nazi ideology or the Nazi praxis. Just like Nazis, this compass predicts that once the bigots rule over everything, nothing will be authoritarian because the authority only exists to help people to decide for themselves correctly.


Anonymous 11/30/2017 (Thu) 23:03:11 [Preview] No.14044 del
>>14041
>For instance, "Nazis" there are only in the fascist corner because the compass forwards the baseless premise that their ideology was "authoritarian-right", which is simply not the case. Ideologically, they were the exact opposite, liberal socialist.

Only a Nazi is dumb or dishonest enough to say that nationalistic racist genocides were in fact "liberal socialists."


Anonymous 12/01/2017 (Fri) 00:18:47 [Preview] No.14045 del
>>14044
Hello, Antifa, dumb enough to think trashcans are anti-liberal.


Anonymous 12/03/2017 (Sun) 15:09:21 [Preview] No.14073 del
>>14044
You're right. Liberal socialists commit genocide indiscriminately and couldn't give a rats ass if they helped their country!



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