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Post Mellenial Culture Anonymous 11/08/2017 (Wed) 21:08:54 [Preview] No. 13728
What impact will YouTube and similar social media websites have on the next generation? The one that comes after the millennial, the ones raised on this?

> 18 Million subscribers
> 10 Million views


Anonymous 11/08/2017 (Wed) 23:06:49 [Preview] No. 13729 del
Teach them that retards like this is the reason birth control exists


Anonymous 11/09/2017 (Thu) 03:48:12 [Preview] No. 13731 del
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We might be a blip in history right before the next Dark Ages. When movies like this can be produced for millions, we are entering the post-intellectual age.


Anonymous 11/09/2017 (Thu) 04:47:20 [Preview] No. 13732 del
>>13731
I wouldn't be surprised is most movies today are pumped out of software programs that exist to make the plots that will gain the most recognition and in turn, produce the most money.

This consumerist society can be separated into two parts, the consumers, and the producers, who's goal is to sell their products to the consumers, which keep mindlessly consuming.

Picking up a book will do much more than watching a trivial youtube channel.


Anonymous 11/09/2017 (Thu) 05:27:29 [Preview] No. 13734 del
>>13732
https://www.gutenberg.org/
https://librivox.org/
https://apps.ankiweb.net/

I've had more fun learning, reading, listening to random shit this past year than anything.

>>13728
It's scary shit tbh. Friend told me about a year ago his sister loves pewdiepie and markiplier I'm like what, until seeing OP's pic I didn't even know what markiplier looked like but I had heard the name, I digress. His niece was like 5 at the time I want to say. I guess it's cool that kids can just smack a tablet around and have unlimited access to youtube content but like, goddamn. Pretty much everything meant for kids when I was growing up was educational in the traditional or moral sense except for some saturday morning stuff like x-men. I get this real sense of look at me I need attention vibe from people about 10 years younger than me or so, they whip out their phones and are completely focused on them.
Does not bode well for kids these days because you emulate groups older than you more so than your parents imo. At least in the formative teen years and early 20s.
If I had hope for the future of society I think I'd have lost it. I'm wondering if there would be sense in making wholesome and wide ranging educational content for children specifically for Youtube. Probably get called a pedo but I wouldn't even want to be around the kids I'd just want to show em some stuff and where and how to get resources on things other than the internet. Useful stuff that their parents don't have time to show them, like how to some gardening, woodworking, knitting, how the dewey decimal system works shit like that.
All reaction vids show them and shit like voice overs on top of random vidya playing does learn em nothing.


Anonymous 11/09/2017 (Thu) 05:52:21 [Preview] No. 13735 del
>>13728
Oh, it'll unquestionably turn them into retards who'll keep saying "lul, we're the smartest and everyone behind us were cavemen. look at our technology, our ancestors were so rayciss and ignorant"
>whip out phone
>cross street staring at phone
>get hit by bus
I don't even get depressed at mass shootings anymore, I just think of it as natural selection nowadays.


Anonymous 11/09/2017 (Thu) 05:56:41 [Preview] No. 13736 del
/pol/ told me that Generation Z is supposed to be based
yet my brother is a bigger faggot than I am


Anonymous 11/09/2017 (Thu) 08:27:09 [Preview] No. 13737 del
>>13734
To be fair the older generation watch plenty of shit too.
Older gen = REALITY TV
Younger gen = Post-youtube poop

There have always been lots of idiots who are addicted to entertainment. America excels at the entertainment genre, and reads less books per year than much of the rest of the world.


Anonymous 11/09/2017 (Thu) 09:23:35 [Preview] No. 13738 del
>>13737
SAD! but true; children are really impressionable and I think parents need to be more aware of what their kids are watching. For a long time you could trust that the worst thing you'd see on daytime tv was some steamy under covers kisseys.
The problem with youtube is the barrier to entry is zero, I know there are parental controls for tablets but I highly doubt most parents set them up.
The main issue with youtube is who knows what rabbit hole a kid could fall into anywhere from comment sections to just letting autoplay run.
That could be said about any form of media but this is the goddamn internet we're talking about here in the year of our lord 2017 and all the legwork to finding crass junk is done for you. Also it's self-referential if we're talking about google's algorithms so they watch one thing about any given topic and it'll lead them to similar things.


Anonymous 11/09/2017 (Thu) 20:03:59 [Preview] No. 13739 del
Our generation is the one that stopped paying for comic books in favor of youtube and now complains that modern, inevitably dying print media comic books are trying to grasp at the SJWs. The next generation will just be immune to that. Not immune to doing the same shit of course, just immune to the effects of previous generation doing it. Youtube will hurt the post-millenials the same way the death of pulp novels hurt us: in no way, there will just be a couple of embarrassingly failing reboots in the new media.


Anonymous 11/09/2017 (Thu) 22:02:26 [Preview] No. 13740 del
Documentation has been replaced by video tutorials. The current generation couldn't write an ASCII text file explaining how to unzip their pants, take out their dick, and piss in a toilet - but there are four hundred and thirty-seven 43-minute video tutorials for it and buried somewhere in that godawful pile you might even be able to find one of the thirteen that get it right.


Anonymous 11/09/2017 (Thu) 23:56:11 [Preview] No. 13742 del
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>>13740
Oh yeah, I hate having to watch videos to learn how to program. That's such bullshit, you can't skim a video the way you can with a written tutorial. Even when they don't mumble and do explain it well they usually have a heavy Indian or Russian accent that makes it nigh impossible to grasp.

I mean go ahead and make a video if you want and embeds it as a supplement to the written tutorial, but the written tutorial is supposed to cover everything cobciselt and comprehensively by itself, with hyperlinks to anything you need to know that would be too much information.


Anonymous 11/10/2017 (Fri) 00:02:31 [Preview] No. 13744 del
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>>13731
This movie was a series of ads for apps and people payed to see it.

>> $85,908,559
worth of people paid to see this.


Anonymous 11/10/2017 (Fri) 00:21:07 [Preview] No. 13745 del
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>>13744
It's even worse than that. Wiki says:
Budget was: $50 million.
Box office revenue: $214.2 million

Making a shitty movie that's all ads was profitable even apart from anyone falling for the product placement.


Anonymous 11/10/2017 (Fri) 05:13:08 [Preview] No. 13746 del
>>13728
As an individual who used to consume such entertainment, I can speak on this.

Many years ago when I was much more immature and naive, I consumed countless hours of entertainment primarily on the Youtube medium and other websites where one could watch videos. When I look back on it, I realize it was quite a waste of time (Although I was frequenting many "scientific" and engineering youtube channels, which taught me much...) because I had very little other activities to participate in. I still have people today claim that I am the most intelligent person they have ever met even though I don't think of myself that highly.

It is a matter of satisfaction and contentedness, if you find an activity that brings you happiness, you are going to continue to frequent it, because your body promotes the release of dopamine which promotes good health and well-being (Any health benefits are nullified by their couch-sitting heh...). Deluding yourself into thinking you are better than them because "LOL, they just consume that mindless entertainment, here I am, an intellectual who sees past all of the bullshit!" is a dead-end. Think, who is happier in this situation, you, or the guy consuming the entertainment?

We have our activities to entertain us, whether it is book reading or engineering, and they have theirs.


Anonymous 11/10/2017 (Fri) 14:15:47 [Preview] No. 13751 del
>>13746
>I still have people today claim that I am the most intelligent person they have ever met even though I don't think of myself that highly.

You're already being deluded by their misdirection. It's basic psychology that people dog whistle shit like "omg you're so smart!" to trigger your adversial impulse to say "oh, I'm just normal" and pretend that's enough to make you humble. They're sucking up to your lacks of deficiency as merit in order to lower all standards in general. This is done routinely to all attributes, not just intelligence. Then they can go along to say "I was just being nice!" if you ever point out that they're not achieving anything while they still hold you accountable for your intelligence privilege.


Anonymous 11/10/2017 (Fri) 17:01:49 [Preview] No. 13752 del
>>13751
I see what you're saying but I am not trying to trick anyone when I say nice things to them. At least I don't think I am. Maybe this is all like the matrix and I'm just a process that has no clue what the underlying hardware is really doing, but I do sincerely want people to be able to take nice things that I say at face value.


Anonymous 11/11/2017 (Sat) 11:41:55 [Preview] No. 13756 del
>>13742
>>13740
Are videos really that bad? For example in math, some people learn better by having someone explain material in person or talking about the material with someone instead of struggling through a dense textbook. It helps give a big picture without trying to figure out what the confusing topic really means.
With programming I've found that I can often deal with a textbook alright (although the examples are the real thing that helps you), but with math I think going through textbooks can be annoying. Of course this doesn't mean "no textbooks", but that's when you want to be rigorous about the material after you have a good intuition of what the proof says.
Plus you can multitask with a podcast. And I'd argue diagrams help a lot.

Also I suck at reading. I can't focus for more than 5 minutes and often times I'll read shit and realize I don't remember the previous paragraph I read.


Anonymous 11/11/2017 (Sat) 13:37:55 [Preview] No. 13757 del
>>13752
Of course not, that self-termination of agency only makes it worse. How perfect of you to bring that up since exactly what it creates is a culture of justifying what you were "trying" to do as an accomplishment, even if it's almost like trying to begin exercising by eating a big hearty meal every day just to be sure you have the energy once you finally get down to it.


Anonymous 11/14/2017 (Tue) 06:05:38 [Preview] No. 13774 del
>>13756
I think they're pretty bad.

The difference in efficiency is a good metaphor. An ASCII text file that describes how to do something will be thousands of times smaller than a video describing the same thing - and it can be searched. It works better. Kids raised in an environment of bloated, inefficient crafting-show style technological communication are being conditioned to think that that is how it's done and that devoting a couple hundred hours to reading, absorbing, and exercising enough of the techniques embodied in a book on some subject of interest to add it to their life toolkit is too difficult an endeavor to be worth undertaking. Their life options are going to be limited by that, not to mention they're going to be more likely to add to the bloat rather than take the time to write some documentation when they want to communication something useful to others.

Attention span is a mental strength. It's tempting to skip attention span day in the text-while-driving/youtube/multitask-cacophony environment that we've created, but don't skip attention span day.


Anonymous 11/14/2017 (Tue) 20:46:39 [Preview] No. 13775 del
>>13774
It's true we have shorter attention spans. I used to be able to spend hours studying in a library but now I can't go two pages without the itch to look at my smart phone, and my parents also say they don't have the attention span to read books now. I think there might be chemical poisoning in addition to instant gratification changing our ability to get depth of knowledge.

Unlike the complacent retards, I am trying to fix myself though. I plan to lock myself in the library for a few hours every day that I have free time, and order myself to study something useful or no more internet for me on that day. It'll be painful and I will have internet withdraw syndromes at first, but mental exercise needs training just like real exercise.


Anonymous 11/17/2017 (Fri) 00:55:18 [Preview] No. 13781 del
>>13775
tbh honest my attention span is pretty long
i'd make a joke about certain recent events but I doubt you would retain it


Anonymous 11/17/2017 (Fri) 03:22:33 [Preview] No. 13787 del
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>>13781
keep it to 30 chars or less.


Anonymous 11/17/2017 (Fri) 12:05:47 [Preview] No.13789 del
>>13734
>loves pewdiepie
Look, I'm not gonna lie: PewDiePie is pretty good entertainment when you're just looking for something to watch while eating breakfast in front of your computer or something.


Anonymous 11/17/2017 (Fri) 12:07:47 [Preview] No.13790 del
>>13737
Yeah, you can't blame the entire generation on the idiots. Just see idiots as a different type of people.


Anonymous 11/17/2017 (Fri) 23:26:18 [Preview] No.13795 del
>>13728
How about we wait and see...

Human life is quite easy now, all the food you need to survive is within your grasp, an endless stream of water runs out of a faucet if you were to leave it running, you are reading this message on what I presume is a computer which gives you access to millions of websites that the scholars of the past would have killed to have access to.

I'll continue this message briefly... 1/?


Anonymous 11/18/2017 (Sat) 21:51:16 [Preview] No.13807 del
>>13795
I am back now.

Human life is quite easy now, which is why idiots succumb to terrors such as nihilism and existentialism so very easily, they aren't entertaining themselves, and they aren't fighting to survive with no time to think. There is nothing wrong with entertainment, for all we know, these lives are limited and someday we shall all fall, and we all have our methods of being content, whether it be reading a book, arguing on the internet, travelling, watching entertainers on the internet, trying to understand these lives, etc. The world is changing very quickly, even if some choose not to acknowledge it, the technology today is many times more advanced than the technology only a mere 50 years ago, and I expect the technology in 50 years to be no different. I will tell you now though, complaining on the internet about children entertained by individuals on the internet isn't going to make you happy. In fact, it quite honestly does the opposite, you need to eliminate your "ego" and opinions to be happy, to be an observer, you can derive beauty from anything, trust me.

Our goal in these lives should be the ability to lie on your deathbed and not give a single shit about dying because of a complete state of content.


Anonymous 11/19/2017 (Sun) 10:46:01 [Preview] No.13809 del
>>13734
>I've had more fun learning, reading, listening to random shit this past year than anything.

This tbh.

In current year you can choose to tune into the stream of A/B test optimized clickbait, or read/watch anything from the practically infinite library of actual creative works on the internet. You don't even have to get off your ass to watch the best movies or read the best books of the last century.

It's your fucking choice. Doesn't matter what other people do.


Anonymous 11/21/2017 (Tue) 22:31:46 [Preview] No.13825 del
>>13735
>"lul, we're the smartest and everyone behind us were cavemen. look at our technology, our ancestors were so rayciss and ignorant"
this is unquestionably one of the most pernicious and deadly memes of the 21st century


Anonymous 11/22/2017 (Wed) 02:25:41 [Preview] No.13826 del
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>>13825
That said Boomers elected Trump at the primary and conservatives don't know what epistemology means, and hate too many people for you to take them seriously. We are smarter than anyone before us, and the smartest man in the bible would know less about science, medicine, or geography than an average 10 year old so we are smarter. You should learn to deal with the truth.


Anonymous 11/22/2017 (Wed) 05:09:25 [Preview] No.13828 del
>>13826
Measuring intelligence is a strange beast. Like, if a quantum physicist with theoretical knowledge of a lot of meaningful shit went back to times before Christ magically, he'd probably be dead pretty quick.
It's sort of like how they measure inflation year to year with CPI but have to adjust it as decades fly by because they're not longer looking at quite the same thing.
People back 100+ years ago could read and write better generally, but only if they WERE able to read and write. On a general level if you used literacy only you could say yeah definitely people are more literate now, with scientific knowledge you could say they're less superstitious. At the same time however I think you could say a lot of people have a lot less practical knowledge and probably aren't as generally good with figures or common sense or spatial awareness cause we have bro-bots now.


Anonymous 11/22/2017 (Wed) 09:19:37 [Preview] No.13833 del
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>>13826
>and the smartest man in the bible would know less about science, medicine, or geography than an average 10 year old so we are smarter.
Not even close, and to boot it has turned into downward spiral instead of a steady progress upwards, so boomers may actaully be on average the smartest generation ever to exist. Maybe not include the greatest mind, but future Einsteins will get Homer Simpsons running their nuclear plants and simply are not going to contain the shitstorm.

And wanna know why? Because education is no longer based on a single collection of good base ideas like the bible that can be taught to everybody, and greatest minds could specialize from there, but skeptic revolution is bringing about an era of rote neoromanticism where everybody competes on a field of being the snarkiest dickbag around and barely a step above the highest common denominator, which is basically at level with the lowest common denominator anyway as a result of the abovementioned.


Anonymous 11/22/2017 (Wed) 10:12:32 [Preview] No.13834 del
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>>13833
>like the bible
>A SOURCE OF GOOD BASE KNOWLEDGE


Anonymous 11/22/2017 (Wed) 12:49:17 [Preview] No.13835 del
>>13834
>ideas
>knowledge
>interchangeable
skepticâ„¢ spotted


Anonymous 11/22/2017 (Wed) 15:53:42 [Preview] No.13836 del
>>13834
Actually, many of the early scientists were catholic monks, it was a good platform for regulars to become learned.


Anonymous 11/22/2017 (Wed) 16:22:43 [Preview] No.13837 del
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>>13836
yeah, but it was figuratively an ivory tower. now, with knowledge everywhere and easily accesible, it is in theory much easier to become learned but not look at as an accomplishment, also it is easy to get overwhelmed or not even no where to start.
Not to mention discipline scares people, and parents. They don't want teachers, parents, police anybody making anyone do anything. If anything I'd blame a lack of a hierarchical family system which Christianity (among others, Confucianism for example) did endorse.


Anonymous 11/22/2017 (Wed) 16:52:55 [Preview] No.13839 del
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>>13836
And until the last 200 years we were all held hostage at the end our a sword. Professing you were an atheist meant your murder was legal. Gee, I wonder why everyone including the scientists were Christian back then?



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